Arrow & The Flash Crossover Post Mortem Interviews
“There’s always a price to be paid -- whether or not that price gets paid immediately or whether that price gets paid later on in ways that you don’t foresee, it always comes back to haunt you,” Kreisberg says. “Whether it’s by magic or it’s by time travel, truly the Big Bad is time itself. Time wants to go in one direction -- when people die, the universe wants them to stay dead. Anything you do to change that is going to have a cost.”
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We’ll also find out in Legends that Vandal’s plans don’t just include killing the Hawks in every lifetime. “He has a very clear plan and trajectory,” Guggenheim says. “The thing about Vandal is that for him a lifetime is an eye blink. He thinks in thousand-year-old terms. He’s very much the master of the long con. He does have his own personal agenda vis a vis the Hawks, but he has much bigger plans for the world. You’ll have to watch Legends to find out.”
In the wake of Vandal’s death, and the Hawks’ subsequent departure from Central City, Cisco’s attention will now be focused on honing his powers. “The two interesting things that happen for Cisco, first is a further exploration of his abilities as Vibe, and what he can do, and what he’s capable of,” Kreisberg says. “The other thing that starts to happen… is his relationship with this new Wells [Tom Cavanagh]… This Wells thinks everyone else besides him is an idiot, and thinks everybody is a jerk, and is kind of horrible. Seeing these people be selfless around each other, and these people who are honest and strong enough to admit their flaws, to admit how weak they are, and to admit how scared they are, it’s starting to have an effect on him.”
In the wake of Vandal’s death, and the Hawks’ subsequent departure from Central City, Cisco’s attention will now be focused on honing his powers. “The two interesting things that happen for Cisco, first is a further exploration of his abilities as Vibe, and what he can do, and what he’s capable of,” Kreisberg says. “The other thing that starts to happen… is his relationship with this new Wells [Tom Cavanagh]… This Wells thinks everyone else besides him is an idiot, and thinks everybody is a jerk, and is kind of horrible. Seeing these people be selfless around each other, and these people who are honest and strong enough to admit their flaws, to admit how weak they are, and to admit how scared they are, it’s starting to have an effect on him.”
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"It's definitely going to come to a head in the middle of the season," executive producer Wendy Mericle said. "For the arc of Oliver and Felicity's relationship this season, the fact that he's keeping this from her, and true to what we've done on this show, if there's a secret, it's going to come out and it's going to have some serious consequences.
"We're really excited about how that's going to change things and it's really going to raise the stakes and throw some wrenches into the works of their relationship," she continued. "So far this season, it's been pretty smooth sailing. True to form, we're going to really mine that and there will be some fallout for both of them."
"We're really excited about how that's going to change things and it's really going to raise the stakes and throw some wrenches into the works of their relationship," she continued. "So far this season, it's been pretty smooth sailing. True to form, we're going to really mine that and there will be some fallout for both of them."
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Sins of the father
In both versions of the timeline, Oliver chose to keep his son’s existence a secret from Felicity – the only difference is that the second time around, Felicity didn’t inadvertently find out the truth from Barry. But it’s only a matter of time before Oliver’s decision rears its head again, according to “Arrow” executive producer Wendy Mericle.
“It’s definitely going to come to a head in the middle of the season. We can’t tell you how that’s gonna happen. But obviously for the arc of Oliver and Felicity’s relationship this season, the fact that he’s keeping this from her … true to what we’ve done on the show, if there’s a secret somewhere, it’s going to come out and it’s going to have some serious consequences,” she noted. “We’re really excited about how that’s going to change things and it’s really gonna raise the stakes and throw some wrenches into the works of their relationship — which so far this season has been pretty smooth sailing. True to form, we’re gonna really mine that. There’ll be some fallout for both of them.”
Comic book fans of Green Arrow might’ve been surprised to hear that Oliver’s son was named William Clayton, and not Connor Hawke, as many had been expecting, but exec producer Andrew Kreisberg explained that the choice was made in order to keep the door open for Connor somewhere down the line, rather than closing it.
In both versions of the timeline, Oliver chose to keep his son’s existence a secret from Felicity – the only difference is that the second time around, Felicity didn’t inadvertently find out the truth from Barry. But it’s only a matter of time before Oliver’s decision rears its head again, according to “Arrow” executive producer Wendy Mericle.
“It’s definitely going to come to a head in the middle of the season. We can’t tell you how that’s gonna happen. But obviously for the arc of Oliver and Felicity’s relationship this season, the fact that he’s keeping this from her … true to what we’ve done on the show, if there’s a secret somewhere, it’s going to come out and it’s going to have some serious consequences,” she noted. “We’re really excited about how that’s going to change things and it’s really gonna raise the stakes and throw some wrenches into the works of their relationship — which so far this season has been pretty smooth sailing. True to form, we’re gonna really mine that. There’ll be some fallout for both of them.”
Comic book fans of Green Arrow might’ve been surprised to hear that Oliver’s son was named William Clayton, and not Connor Hawke, as many had been expecting, but exec producer Andrew Kreisberg explained that the choice was made in order to keep the door open for Connor somewhere down the line, rather than closing it.
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Getting Speedier
Regarding whether any liberties have been taken with the Speed Force or if it works just like in the comics, Kreisberg noted, “I think there’s always liberties – I think just the general concept of the Speed Force is just a living entity from which all speedsters derive their powers and that there’s a morality to it and there are consequences to using it and all of that is at play in the show. None of the shows is a specific adaptation of any one comic book, it’s always an amalgamation, bits of this, bits of everything Geoff [Johns] does and also put through our filter…”
Said DC’s Johns, “The reason these shows are so great – one of the many reasons for fans is that they get it. There’s so few people out there that get it, so all the characters – although there might be slight changes to it here and there, from the Speed Force to the Hawks to everything in these shows, these guys are always true to the DNA of the comic books.”
As for whether Barry might take the serum Wells has developed, Kreisberg said, with a grin, “Well, if you're a fan of the comics, you know that a big part of the comics is Velocity-9. And today you guys met Velocity-6. So it's safe to say that there'll be a few more iterations of that formula. How it plays out and how it works and who uses it and the effects that that have -- that's something that you'll have to watch.”
Regarding whether any liberties have been taken with the Speed Force or if it works just like in the comics, Kreisberg noted, “I think there’s always liberties – I think just the general concept of the Speed Force is just a living entity from which all speedsters derive their powers and that there’s a morality to it and there are consequences to using it and all of that is at play in the show. None of the shows is a specific adaptation of any one comic book, it’s always an amalgamation, bits of this, bits of everything Geoff [Johns] does and also put through our filter…”
Said DC’s Johns, “The reason these shows are so great – one of the many reasons for fans is that they get it. There’s so few people out there that get it, so all the characters – although there might be slight changes to it here and there, from the Speed Force to the Hawks to everything in these shows, these guys are always true to the DNA of the comic books.”
As for whether Barry might take the serum Wells has developed, Kreisberg said, with a grin, “Well, if you're a fan of the comics, you know that a big part of the comics is Velocity-9. And today you guys met Velocity-6. So it's safe to say that there'll be a few more iterations of that formula. How it plays out and how it works and who uses it and the effects that that have -- that's something that you'll have to watch.”
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VANDAL’S RESURRECTION | As seen in the closing minutes — when Malcolm gathered Vandal Savage’s ashes — the villain’s story is far from over. But the details of how he’ll resurface to haunt Legends will be saved for the offshoot rather than upcoming episodes of Arrow or The Flash. However, Berlanti notes that the current seasons of those mothership shows are far from done, “so I don’t want to say we won’t come up with some kind of way to reference it.”
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