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Once Upon a Time - Season 5 - Interview on Emma and Hook's 'Difficult' Season

Jul 29, 2015

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Thanks to RD for the heads up.

The tagline for the season is, "Evil is made, not born," so as a human being, not a character, do you think that is true?

JM: I do!

CO: I think so. It's a difficult question to answer. The Darkness is there, and Emma has to choose to take the Darkness on board. Rumpel had to choose to take the Darkness on board. It's whether or not you embrace it or fight against it.

JM: They do establish with all of the Dark Ones in the past, which they kind of go back through in the beginning of the season this year, that everyone takes the Darkness for a good reason. Rumpel takes it because he wants to be braver for his son. Emma takes it because she's saving the whole town from being destroyed by the Darkness. Before that, they mention some of the earlier Dark Ones, and their good reasons for choosing the Darkness.

I think there's something really interesting about this idea that people make bad decisions for good reasons sometimes, and how far down you can end up in the rabbit hole for having made a bad decision but for a good reason. That happens in life, so there's an incredible life lesson that they're telling with these stories. It's so easy to justify something when you don't know the domino effect of how far that can take you in life. In that perspective, I do think that darkness or evil or bad decisions are coming from something that's circumstantial or made, not something that is born.

CO: This is why I like doing interviews with Jen, because she's got all the answers — it's absolutely brilliant.