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Pretty impossible to say without knowing where the other shows are going to be scheduled! I suppose the ideal would be if it's somehow paired with new show Limitless, but I think it'll be getting the final season Mentalist treatment.
I think CBSs problem is that they still have streaming on lock down. You watch live or you are screwed. You can't catch up without buying the DVDs. It's not a timeslot problem, it's a serialized drama that's not on Hulu and Netflix problem. Once you've missed a few you are out.
Nice - my poll! It's so "relevant" to recent developments, too. Funny part is I drew a blank as I went to go pick mine, but I guess like everyone else I would most prefer to see it in its original time slot. I got a friend into the show around season 2 and he used to come by and watch when it was on Thursdays at 9 but since it got moved to Tuesdays at 10 he works and is too tired to stay until 11 so I rewatch with him another day. Though I'm usually tired around 10 because I've (become this old fart now apparently) I didn't have to staple my eyelids to stay up but since I love PoI so much the adrenaline rush keeps me up til 11 and if the episode was crazy (like it is most of the times) I'll be up for at least another hr reading reactions or posting my own thoughts. I'm so happy we got renewed - I can but can't believe there was even a question of if it would...Those ratings were terrible which was why I can believe it was on the bubble but the quality of the show was why I couldn't...I'm grateful for whatever else we get but I'm part of the #13isnotenough campaign for the sole reason I'm worried they will be rushed in their effort to wrap things up how they intended. Taking a philosophy of literature class I remember a big part of our discussion was writer's intentions, so it just bothers me that the show might fall short of what the writers intended that makes it the masterpiece it is. No one ever intended on Shahi getting pregnant and now it seems like they intended on having enough time to get her back on but now as Jack Bauer would say, "we are running out of time"
Yeah, but it was working just fine for them on Thursdays, they didn't have to move it, for the sake of more Thursday comedies, which, with the exception of Mom and TBBT are failing. The Odd Couple is hardly a hit and will become The Millers 2.0 next season.
Also, Elementary has since dropped dramatically since the POI-Elementary pairing.
PoI is available OnDemand as well as on CBS's website, full episodes and has been both last season and this season, so that is available. I don't know anything about its availability on Hulu or Netflix, however. :-)
I have not been tied to when a show comes on since DVRs came about and with the Hopper I can record 6 shows at one time. POI is a must see show so no matter when it comes on I will get it.
I remember a big part of our discussion was writer's intentions, so it just bothers me that the show might fall short of what the writers intended, which makes it the masterpiece it is.
THIS^^^ This is what rankles me the most.We know that the creators intended for the show to be at least six seasons and speaking of story lines they were not the kind that threw everything at the wall until a particular story line stuck. The POI universe has been carefully built and everything is connected and is of importance. To see such an amazing universe cut short and compressed into 13 episodes is a tragedy.
Exactly the point of those discussions about writer's intentions in my Philosophy of Lit class. A work can be a interpreted a certain way because of a mistake/coincidence the writer never intended - for example, a story written long ago seems to predict the future once that future becomes a reality; however, the author wrote it purely as a fiction never thinking in their wildest dreams it would some day be a reality. Another example, a work can be interpreted as a criticism of a certain social issue - in the case of Person of Interest it can be a criticism of surveillance and the pervasive nature of govt - and maybe that was the writer's intention or maybe it wasn't though we'd all agree it was in the case of PoI. So yeah, when your just seeing what ideas stick your intentions would seem purely to produce higher numbers (all about the almighty dollar) whereas when you stick to a certain path despite things like ratings you are building towards the original intention and appropriate interpretation of that work. The story they wanted to tell should ultimately be the story we get - anything less will miss the point
CBS has no Ondemand for AT&T or WOW. I don't know about Comcast, but a lot of cable companies don't have it. If they've added actual episodes to their website, that's new this season. I know CBS was trying out its own buy a pass for online viewing thing, maybe they made the change to go with that? It's not available on Hulu or Netflix in the US. I got behind season 1 and I've never been able to catch up because I refuse to pay extra for a show I'm only so-so on. It's a Netflix world where viewership can actually increase over time, but only if it is available to the potential audience, right now POI isn't and hasn't been from the get-go.
I have BlueRidge Communications and CBS doesn't have Video-On-Demand here, so obviously no Person of Interest.
I think it's like @lsbloom said: Person of Interest is a moderately serialized show, and in this age, it's hard to keep a consistent audience for even a partially serialized show when viewers who may've missed x amount of episodes are narratively screwed, and potential new viewers aren't given the option to catch-up in the same style that most other networks and shows allow.
This is an on-going issue of CBS being stubborn and old-fashioned. I know I likely would've at least tried The Good Wife by now if I were able to watch the full series at my leisure.
But you know, based on the ratings for CBS's flagship series' (The Big Bang Theory, NCIS, Criminal Minds, etc.), maybe being old-fashioned is serving them well...
I'm sorry, I made the assumption that OnDemand was universally available. I have Time Warner (which yes, has issues, no doubt) but Person of Interest has been available on it. I DVR, so don't use it, but there it is. At this point, I'd be happy if CBS announced PoI as one of the summer shows and ran it 13 or perhaps 15 episodes all summer long. If Under the Dome can succeed with such poor ratings (and in my opinion poor acting, poor stories and more) then PoI should certainly do well for two or three more summers at 13 to 15 episodes. Nolan and Plageman could easily complete their intended story for the show. Sadly, we'll have to wait and see the outcome.
Yeah, I've no idea why Video-On-Demand isn't universal :/
I DVR Person of Interest, too, since it's usually airing opposite an FX series that I'd prefer to watch live.
Summer should be fine for Person of Interest so long as CBS is willing to continue committing to it. Like you said, if Under the Dome can succeed there (god, what an awful show), then anything should be able to.
I survived the first five or six episodes of UtD in Season 1 but couldn't stand it past that. I think I watched perhaps 2 or 3 (and not complete either) of Season 2, and have absolutely no intention of trying it in Season 3. Here's hoping for some good PoI news over the next several months, either summer runs on CBS or perhaps shop it out to another network. (FX or even HBO and whatnot. I don't have some of those pay-per-view channels (or any of them actually, but I'd buy the DVDs afterwards.)
I managed to get all the way through the first episode of season two for Under the Dome before I finally admitted to myself that it was a wretched show with no chance of ever improving.
I can't imagine Person of Interest is the kind of show that'd get shopped elsewhere. Once it's done, it's gone. I just hope it gets the chance to properly conclude itself at this point.
I have long advocated for this timeslot because of competition, its own serialized nature, pairings and less interruptions. Mondays at 10 PM will have less interruptions that Tuesdays and it will be paired with another smart show in Scorpion. The serialization of the show kills any chance of it being a lead in to another CBS drama so 10 PM is the only option. ABC and NBC will be weak with their offerings or they will be testing new shows in that time slot. Person of Interest would win every week if they put it there.
Unfortunately, I think the ratings decline is inevitable, especially as POI transits from more procedural to more serialized, regardless of timeslot. CBS viewers seem to prefer procedural formats to the serialized format, I've even seen facebook comments of people saying they thought The Good Wife Season 5 (widely regarded as their best and most critically accalimed season) was the worst season, and wanted them to go back to "story of the week".
I felt this past season of TGW was one of the worst because the election storyline was boring, people seemed to become caricatures of themselves at times, and they shoved the rest of the great cast into support roles with very little for them to do. I hope that it going back to focusing on some actual court cases may help it find its footing again.
You must live in the Central time zone because for almost everyone else in the country, it started off at 9 PM. I remember visiting relatives in the Midwest and watching some of my usual shows an hour earlier than usual and it felt very weird.
The show suffered a very noticeable ratings loss once it moved from its cushy 9 PM Thursday slot to a less desirable 10 PM Tuesday slot. The 10 PM slot is now becoming a deathslot on just about every network as people no longer are forced to stay up to watch their favorite shows live and use DVR and online streaming to catch their shows whenever they want. Also, it lost the big lead-in from TBBT/2.5 Men that it doesn't get from the NCIS shows, which don't have the same overlap in audience with POI that the previous lead-ins did.
Agreed. POI is just not compatible with the NCIS shows, which skew older and more procedural based. It paired nicely with TBBT/2.5 Men because they provided a larger, younger crowd that were more open to a hybrid procedural/serial show. This in turn helped Elementary because they were very similar in how they were trying to weave their various story elements together.
CBS got greedy here in thinking they could just move a solid performing show (in order to add inferior comedies) to a later time and it'd bring all its viewers from an earlier timeslot on a vastly different day. They were oblivious to the inherent compatibility of all their Thursday shows that has now been lost on both days and why both those dramas are now hurting in both overall viewers and demo.
CBS streaming control is definitely a big reason for POI's (and many other CBS shows) delayed or lack of inclusion on Netflix. WB had a deal with Netflix ready to go in 2013 which would have made it available this past fall but CBS nixed it because they wanted to retain streaming rights to a hit show (at the time) they were airing. It further didn't help POI by moving it away from a golden 9 PM time slot after TBBT/2.5 Men to a 10 PM time slot with 2 older-skewing shows ahead of it. CBS failed to take notice that 10 PM ratings are down across all networks as DVR and online streaming has become more prevalent.
All very good points - I remember loving it when it was on back then like that...When a friend and I saw they changed it we were bummed and I thought as much as I knew it was a great show that it would prob take a toll on the ratings - they should have just left it but of course they have to attach everything to TBBT bc they don't have enough faith in their comedies on their own (maybe that's justified but then do something about those comedies instead of riding the coat tails of another)
I chose Thursday at 9 and that seems popular, it would be up against Scandal which is rating about the same numbers as POI but better in the DEMO I actually think 9pm on any night would be cool, perhaps ten is too late, if they shift it to nine, maybe it will attract younger viewers, because it must not be doing that now if the demo is not high compared to others. Didn't this show used to go up against Grey's Anatomy in the beginning? I also seem to remember it pulled in more than 15 million viewers in season one, I am not sure how it been doing lately, obviously not good enough. I definitely think a nine o;clock would improve the numbers. Also Thursday is when the advertisers pay the big bucks to get their ads on TV, at least that is what I have read.
Whatever the time slot is, CBS should have realized last year that they have one of the finest TV shows on board run by one of the finest minds in the business (J.Nolan). A show that combines philosophy & physicality in a way that no one else does. If CBS found time for The Good Wife a few yrs ago when it's ratings weren't on par with it's other more popular shows why can't it do the same with PoI? But who are we kidding...we can't be expecting such philosophical minded reasoning from a network that allowed "Two and a Half Men" to run for 8yrs & paid it's stars dozens of millions! Maybe Jonathan Nolan would be wiser in taking the show to Netflix cause a 13 episode 5th season would do no justice to the plans of the showrunners.
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Pretty impossible to say without knowing where the other shows are going to be scheduled! I suppose the ideal would be if it's somehow paired with new show Limitless, but I think it'll be getting the final season Mentalist treatment.
ReplyDeleteThursday 9 PM.
ReplyDeleteBack to Thursday at 9pm would be great.
ReplyDeleteWon't happen, though.
I think CBSs problem is that they still have streaming on lock down. You watch live or you are screwed. You can't catch up without buying the DVDs. It's not a timeslot problem, it's a serialized drama that's not on Hulu and Netflix problem. Once you've missed a few you are out.
ReplyDeleteMondays at 10|9c. CBS has had nothing there for ages. NBC's show won't clash among viewers and Castle's ratings are sinking more and more.
ReplyDeletePair it with Elementary again on Thursdays, they both did well when they were paired. Why CBS decided to move POI to Tuesday 10pm is beyond me.
ReplyDeleteother : it's (probably) the last season and fans will have a real finale. just enjoy it ^^
ReplyDeleteOnly 13 episode and most likely final season- CBS will use it as schedule filler, most likely during the winter hiatus like The Mentalist.
ReplyDeleteCBS gave it a great lead-in but the ratings kept dropping. Nor their fault.
ReplyDeleteNice - my poll! It's so "relevant" to recent developments, too. Funny part is I drew a blank as I went to go pick mine, but I guess like everyone else I would most prefer to see it in its original time slot. I got a friend into the show around season 2 and he used to come by and watch when it was on Thursdays at 9 but since it got moved to Tuesdays at 10 he works and is too tired to stay until 11 so I rewatch with him another day. Though I'm usually tired around 10 because I've (become this old fart now apparently) I didn't have to staple my eyelids to stay up but since I love PoI so much the adrenaline rush keeps me up til 11 and if the episode was crazy (like it is most of the times) I'll be up for at least another hr reading reactions or posting my own thoughts. I'm so happy we got renewed - I can but can't believe there was even a question of if it would...Those ratings were terrible which was why I can believe it was on the bubble but the quality of the show was why I couldn't...I'm grateful for whatever else we get but I'm part of the #13isnotenough campaign for the sole reason I'm worried they will be rushed in their effort to wrap things up how they intended. Taking a philosophy of literature class I remember a big part of our discussion was writer's intentions, so it just bothers me that the show might fall short of what the writers intended that makes it the masterpiece it is. No one ever intended on Shahi getting pregnant and now it seems like they intended on having enough time to get her back on but now as Jack Bauer would say, "we are running out of time"
ReplyDeleteDepends on how the other shows are scheduled ... But weneday 9pm sounds good !
ReplyDeleteYeah, but it was working just fine for them on Thursdays, they didn't have to move it, for the sake of more Thursday comedies, which, with the exception of Mom and TBBT are failing. The Odd Couple is hardly a hit and will become The Millers 2.0 next season.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Elementary has since dropped dramatically since the POI-Elementary pairing.
PoI is available OnDemand as well as on CBS's website, full episodes and has been both last season and this season, so that is available. I don't know anything about its availability on Hulu or Netflix, however. :-)
ReplyDeleteLead ins are overrated. A big lead in alone is worthless if it's not compatible. The later time slot really hurt it.
ReplyDeleteI think it's too late.
ReplyDeleteSunday 10 pm
ReplyDeleteI have not been tied to when a show comes on since DVRs came about and with the Hopper I can record 6 shows at one time. POI is a must see show so no matter when it comes on I will get it.
ReplyDeleteThursday is the best day imo. Why is everyone saying its the final season was it Annouced?
ReplyDeleteBecause the same thing happened with The Mentalist.
ReplyDeleteI remember a big part of our discussion was writer's intentions, so it
ReplyDeletejust bothers me that the show might fall short of what the writers
intended, which makes it the masterpiece it is.
THIS^^^ This is what rankles me the most.We know that the creators intended for the show to be at least six seasons and speaking of story lines they were not the kind that threw everything at the wall until a particular story line stuck. The POI universe has been carefully built and everything is connected and is of importance. To see such an amazing universe cut short and compressed into 13 episodes is a tragedy.
No but the episode order was cut to 13 and it's being held for mid-season. It doesn't have to be final but it appears that way.
ReplyDeleteAgree! I don't think the sitcoms are doing Elementary any favors.
ReplyDeleteHopefully they annouce its final season then like soon.
ReplyDeleteI think Mondays at 10:00 pm they should put all the NCIS shows on Tuesdays
ReplyDeleteExactly the point of those discussions about writer's intentions in my Philosophy of Lit class. A work can be a interpreted a certain way because of a mistake/coincidence the writer never intended - for example, a story written long ago seems to predict the future once that future becomes a reality; however, the author wrote it purely as a fiction never thinking in their wildest dreams it would some day be a reality. Another example, a work can be interpreted as a criticism of a certain social issue - in the case of Person of Interest it can be a criticism of surveillance and the pervasive nature of govt - and maybe that was the writer's intention or maybe it wasn't though we'd all agree it was in the case of PoI. So yeah, when your just seeing what ideas stick your intentions would seem purely to produce higher numbers (all about the almighty dollar) whereas when you stick to a certain path despite things like ratings you are building towards the original intention and appropriate interpretation of that work. The story they wanted to tell should ultimately be the story we get - anything less will miss the point
ReplyDeleteCBS has no Ondemand for AT&T or WOW. I don't know about Comcast, but a lot of cable companies don't have it. If they've added actual episodes to their website, that's new this season. I know CBS was trying out its own buy a pass for online viewing thing, maybe they made the change to go with that? It's not available on Hulu or Netflix in the US. I got behind season 1 and I've never been able to catch up because I refuse to pay extra for a show I'm only so-so on. It's a Netflix world where viewership can actually increase over time, but only if it is available to the potential audience, right now POI isn't and hasn't been from the get-go.
ReplyDeleteGreat points. Complete agreement.
ReplyDeleteI have BlueRidge Communications and CBS doesn't have Video-On-Demand here, so obviously no Person of Interest.
ReplyDeleteI think it's like @lsbloom said: Person of Interest is a moderately serialized show, and in this age, it's hard to keep a consistent audience for even a partially serialized show when viewers who may've missed x amount of episodes are narratively screwed, and potential new viewers aren't given the option to catch-up in the same style that most other networks and shows allow.
This is an on-going issue of CBS being stubborn and old-fashioned. I know I likely would've at least tried The Good Wife by now if I were able to watch the full series at my leisure.
But you know, based on the ratings for CBS's flagship series' (The Big Bang Theory, NCIS, Criminal Minds, etc.), maybe being old-fashioned is serving them well...
We're screwed.
I feel like you're trying to sell me a Hopper...
ReplyDeleteHa, it is the best thing since sliced bread. ;)
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, I made the assumption that OnDemand was universally available. I have Time Warner (which yes, has issues, no doubt) but Person of Interest has been available on it. I DVR, so don't use it, but there it is. At this point, I'd be happy if CBS announced PoI as one of the summer shows and ran it 13 or perhaps 15 episodes all summer long. If Under the Dome can succeed with such poor ratings (and in my opinion poor acting, poor stories and more) then PoI should certainly do well for two or three more summers at 13 to 15 episodes. Nolan and Plageman could easily complete their intended story for the show. Sadly, we'll have to wait and see the outcome.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I've no idea why Video-On-Demand isn't universal :/
ReplyDeleteI DVR Person of Interest, too, since it's usually airing opposite an FX series that I'd prefer to watch live.
Summer should be fine for Person of Interest so long as CBS is willing to continue committing to it. Like you said, if Under the Dome can succeed there (god, what an awful show), then anything should be able to.
I survived the first five or six episodes of UtD in Season 1 but couldn't stand it past that. I think I watched perhaps 2 or 3 (and not complete either) of Season 2, and have absolutely no intention of trying it in Season 3. Here's hoping for some good PoI news over the next several months, either summer runs on CBS or perhaps shop it out to another network. (FX or even HBO and whatnot. I don't have some of those pay-per-view channels (or any of them actually, but I'd buy the DVDs afterwards.)
ReplyDeletethursdays or mondays but i'd go with thursdays.
ReplyDeleteI managed to get all the way through the first episode of season two for Under the Dome before I finally admitted to myself that it was a wretched show with no chance of ever improving.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine Person of Interest is the kind of show that'd get shopped elsewhere. Once it's done, it's gone. I just hope it gets the chance to properly conclude itself at this point.
Thursday at 8, like it used to be
ReplyDeleteC'mon Reese - u should know you came on at 9...lol i guess when u get shot, punched, into car accidents so many times it starts to take a toll on ya
ReplyDeleteNot everyone lives in the Eastern Time Zone
ReplyDeleteMondays at 10 PM.
ReplyDeleteI have long advocated for this timeslot because of competition, its own serialized nature, pairings and less interruptions. Mondays at 10 PM will have less interruptions that Tuesdays and it will be paired with another smart show in Scorpion. The serialization of the show kills any chance of it being a lead in to another CBS drama so 10 PM is the only option. ABC and NBC will be weak with their offerings or they will be testing new shows in that time slot. Person of Interest would win every week if they put it there.
Unfortunately, I think the ratings decline is inevitable, especially as POI transits from more procedural to more serialized, regardless of timeslot. CBS viewers seem to prefer procedural formats to the serialized format, I've even seen facebook comments of people saying they thought The Good Wife Season 5 (widely regarded as their best and most critically accalimed season) was the worst season, and wanted them to go back to "story of the week".
ReplyDeleteI felt this past season of TGW was one of the worst because the election storyline was boring, people seemed to become caricatures of themselves at times, and they shoved the rest of the great cast into support roles with very little for them to do. I hope that it going back to focusing on some actual court cases may help it find its footing again.
ReplyDeleteYou must live in the Central time zone because for almost everyone else in the country, it started off at 9 PM. I remember visiting relatives in the Midwest and watching some of my usual shows an hour earlier than usual and it felt very weird.
ReplyDeleteThe show suffered a very noticeable ratings loss once it moved from its cushy 9 PM Thursday slot to a less desirable 10 PM Tuesday slot. The 10 PM slot is now becoming a deathslot on just about every network as people no longer are forced to stay up to watch their favorite shows live and use DVR and online streaming to catch their shows whenever they want. Also, it lost the big lead-in from TBBT/2.5 Men that it doesn't get from the NCIS shows, which don't have the same overlap in audience with POI that the previous lead-ins did.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. POI is just not compatible with the NCIS shows, which skew older and more procedural based. It paired nicely with TBBT/2.5 Men because they provided a larger, younger crowd that were more open to a hybrid procedural/serial show. This in turn helped Elementary because they were very similar in how they were trying to weave their various story elements together.
ReplyDeleteCBS got greedy here in thinking they could just move a solid performing show (in order to add inferior comedies) to a later time and it'd bring all its viewers from an earlier timeslot on a vastly different day. They were oblivious to the inherent compatibility of all their Thursday shows that has now been lost on both days and why both those dramas are now hurting in both overall viewers and demo.
ReplyDeleteCBS streaming control is definitely a big reason for POI's (and many other CBS shows) delayed or lack of inclusion on Netflix. WB had a deal with Netflix ready to go in 2013 which would have made it available this past fall but CBS nixed it because they wanted to retain streaming rights to a hit show (at the time) they were airing. It further didn't help POI by moving it away from a golden 9 PM time slot after TBBT/2.5 Men to a 10 PM time slot with 2 older-skewing shows ahead of it. CBS failed to take notice that 10 PM ratings are down across all networks as DVR and online streaming has become more prevalent.
ReplyDeleteAll very good points - I remember loving it when it was on back then like that...When a friend and I saw they changed it we were bummed and I thought as much as I knew it was a great show that it would prob take a toll on the ratings - they should have just left it but of course they have to attach everything to TBBT bc they don't have enough faith in their comedies on their own (maybe that's justified but then do something about those comedies instead of riding the coat tails of another)
ReplyDeleteShame CBS tanked that. And for what? Their comedy expansion flopped hard and now they're poised to have fewer comedies than ever.
ReplyDeleteI chose Thursday at 9 and that seems popular, it would be up against Scandal which is rating about the same numbers as POI but better in the DEMO I actually think 9pm on any night would be cool, perhaps ten is too late, if they shift it to nine, maybe it will attract younger viewers, because it must not be doing that now if the demo is not high compared to others. Didn't this show used to go up against Grey's Anatomy in the beginning? I also seem to remember it pulled in more than 15 million viewers in season one, I am not sure how it been doing lately, obviously not good enough. I definitely think a nine o;clock would improve the numbers. Also Thursday is when the advertisers pay the big bucks to get their ads on TV, at least that is what I have read.
ReplyDeleteWhatever the time slot is, CBS should have realized last year that they have one of the finest TV shows on board run by one of the finest minds in the business (J.Nolan). A show that combines philosophy & physicality in a way that no one else does. If CBS found time for The Good Wife a few yrs ago when it's ratings weren't on par with it's other more popular shows why can't it do the same with PoI?
ReplyDeleteBut who are we kidding...we can't be expecting such philosophical minded reasoning from a network that allowed "Two and a Half Men" to run for 8yrs & paid it's stars dozens of millions! Maybe Jonathan Nolan would be wiser in taking the show to Netflix cause a 13 episode 5th season would do no justice to the plans of the showrunners.