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SpoilerTV 2015/16 Pilot Shows - Reviews and Ratings

19 Aug 2015

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Hey All,

Like last year, the Networks have started sending us screeners for their new Fall shows, and our team is currently busy going through them all. (We hope to get other screeners for the late fall and Mid-Season shows later)

Each show will get a full preview by our nominated writer, however other members of the team have been watching the screeners as they come in and we've been collating their quick snap judgements along with a rating out of 10.

The tables will be updated live as new ratings and reviews come in over the next few hrs, days and weeks.

Update Summary
- 19th August - Big Update with new reviews
- 8th June - Updated with latest reviews/ratings
- 7th June - Updated with latest reviews/ratings
- 6th June - Updated with latest reviews/ratings
- 5th June - Updated with latest reviews/ratings
- 4th June - We've received some FOX screeners and short reviews have started to appear.
- 3rd June - Added a Date column which will be colored green for recent additions. Reviews for the same show will have the most recent review at the top.
- 3rd June - New Reviews added
- 2nd June - On the Summary Page we've also added how many reviews there have been for each show.
- 2nd June - We've received screeners for Blood and Oil, Dr. Ken, Quantico, The Family, The Muppets and The Real O'Neals so expect some reviews to appear for those shows soon
- 31st May - More mini-reviews added for Code Black, Supergirl, Angel from Hell and Rush Hour
- 27th May - We've received screeners for Code Black, Life in Pieces and Rush Hour so expect some reviews to appear for those shows soon
- 25th May - Initial Post created and some initial reviews added

Pilot Shows Summary

Each of our writers was asked to submit a rating of each pilot they watched out of 10. The table below shows the average of all these ratings. Shows with a rating greater than 7.5 is deemed a hit, between 5-7.5 we mark it as "Unsure" and less than an average rating of 5 we deem the show to be a miss.



Reviewer Quick Thoughts

As mentioned we'll be doing a more in-depth preview of each pilot show, however we wanted to give you some quick snap-judgements on each show. Again this table will be updated as and when the screeners arrive and our writers have had the time to watch and rate them.

We hope you enjoy this feature and find it useful in deciding which shows you may enjoy next season.

402 comments:

  1. Supergirl:

    Pro:

    - Cat Grant is so bitchy its satisfying, perfectly portrayed ("Cancel dinner with my mother, also cancel my therapist. I won't need therapy if I don't have to see my mother")

    - great visuals

    - at least the lead is hot

    Con:

    - the lead actress is about as charismatic as a bowlingball, highly monotone

    - Jimmy Olsen being bulky and attractive? Yeah...no...not the point of the character

    - screw it....the stand-in that portrays Superman is a better actor than the lead

    - not a fan of the story structure, basically it's 60% chick flick 30% action and 10% cryptic scenes that are cryptic for the sake of being cryptic

    - the flying movements need some work, looks hoaky like in early Superman movies

    - WE GET IT, she's your niece...now who are you supposed to be? Lara? Faora? Did I miss her name drop?

    overall thoughts: I was hoping for a good female driven superhero show but what I got was a show that reinforces gender stereotypes and is pretty much some Nickelodeon girl comedy with some Smallville thrown in...however Smallville was better.

    If I had to compare this to every other DC Pilot I've seen I'll have to rate this rather low.

    Not a show I'm convinced of, let's see what they make of it



    4/10

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  2. I will watch Supergirl and These Reviews convinced me to give blindspot a try

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  3. Looking forward to see Blindspot.Supergirl was nice.

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  4. Christopher DeBono25 May 2015 at 15:22

    I have the songs from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend still stuck in my head >.> ugh!

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  5. Out of these 6, I'll be checking out Blindspot, The Player, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, and Supergirl. Did I just mention all the dramas?

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  6. Glad those Blindspot grades are high! A must see for next season
    Supergirl was solid, I would gave it a 7-7,5 now that I settled down. Chyler and Calista are the reason I'll check in again.
    Surprised U didn't trash CrExGf. Seems like it has more potential than shown, but won't check it out.
    Angel from Hell trailer was rather meh. I hope U give me a bit more insight with more grades.
    Yeah The Player doesn't looks like something I would watch usually. And Thursdays are way to busy for me.

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  7. Nice break down. All Ur points are more than valid.
    I can't really figure the show out, I think they tried to hard. Will have to wait for ep 2 to see how they will develop the story further along and decide if I'll stick with it.

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  8. Jimmy Olsen being bulky and attractive? Yeah...no...not the point of the character-Exactly my thought.What were they thinking?!?

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  9. Christopher DeBono25 May 2015 at 15:50

    They want him to be the shipper tease I think. Like Felicity is to Laurel/Oliver and Caitlin is (was?) for Iris/Barry.

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  10. i'll watch Blindspot tonight and send my review after :)

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  11. Blindspot does look good and it will definitely be a hit for NBC.

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  12. Yeah rub it in Samy. (jealously screaming at U) ;-)

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  13. And who is supposed to be the equivalent of Felicity/Caitlin here?

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  14. This is the first I've heard of Angel from Hell, but after watching the trailer, I'm giving it a try. :)


    Looking forward to Blindspot, too. And Supergirl was pretty good, enough to make me want to try the next couple of episodes.

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  15. the geeky guy that supports Kara on her superhero journey

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  16. The most disappointing attribute of Supergirl is that the pilot can be perfectly summed up by the trailer, you would need to add like 2 more scenes to it and you have the whole episode. As I watched the episode I felt like it added nothing new to what we already saw, so it was a huge bummer.
    Aside from that, I think the show has potential, but that's about it. The pilot is nothing to write home about. Arrow and The Flash had far better pilots.


    I hope this show develops into something much better; now that they got off their introduction, I think we can expect far better episodes, but they have to come. I'll give the show the benefit of the doubt for 6 episodes

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  17. The Flash Pilot>Arrow Pilot>>>>Supergirl Pilot IMO.

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  18. I won't watch the pilot until September and I hope that by then I have forgotten about most of the trailer, I won't re-watch it until then. But while watching the trailer I definitely felt that was going to be an issue.

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  19. I personally liked Arrow's pilot better than The Flash's, but I just give it is a thin line.
    In comparison, Supergirl's pilot is really lackluster. It's not actually bad IMO, but it is disappointing

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  20. Poor guy got stuck in the friendzone too early.

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  21. I think it is for the best. Go in with low expectations, compared to Arrow and The Flash the pilot was really lackluster IMO.
    There is great potential and good ingridients here, something great can come off this show, but the pilot alone isn't really good. It isn't bad, but it's pretty much "meh"

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  22. It was above average & has a nice feeling attached to it but nothing spectacular.7/10 from me.

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  23. 7 is a bit generous in my books.
    6/10 for me. They need to flesh out a lot of characters. But it does look like it's going to be a light and fun show, and thats enough

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  24. I heard it was going to be full on procedural!
    Is it true or just a rumor?It's on CBS after all!

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  25. Wouldn't part of that be explained from being an extended version of the trailer though? I've felt disappointment before with pilots when I ha read too much about them and saw too many sneak peeks and all that, it just made it impossible for the actual shows to then deliver something else.

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  26. I think we can expect a POI situation here; full procedurial at first, slowly coming to more serialized elements

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  27. Exactly.Too much spoilers sometimes ruin the actual episode viewing pleasure.

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  28. That is the exact problem here. I'd probably would have liked Supergirl a bit more if the trailer hadn't already showed nearly every aspect of it.
    While watching the pilot I felt the show only dragged on the scenes we already saw in the trailer.


    CBS should have shown a 3 minute trailer instead

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  29. I thought the same thing as well.

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  30. Can u imagine how bad Code Black is going to be?It had almost 8 min trailer.WTF?!?

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  31. I tuned out after 1 minute; I wasn't interested at all.
    But yeah, 8 minute trailer? Seriously? What are you going to show in the pilot that hasn't been covered on the trailer already

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  32. I would argue that CBS is showing too much here because this is so off brand that they desperately need to show potential young viewers that this is indeed a real thing and not a run of the mill procedural in order to lure them in. However, they did the same with Code Black so it just seems incompetence. I am glad Limitless was sparred

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  33. If anything,it actually convinced me to not tune in under any circumstances.LOl!

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  34. Limitless was a surprise to me.I thought i would it,i kinda like it.I would surely give it a try.

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  35. One can argue that Arrow itself had a lot of procedural elements in its first season too. I don't think that has to be a bad thing. It allows the show to establish an audience and to find its footing before going deeper.

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  36. I really like the movie and I really like both leads on the TV AND I really enjoy Scorpion so i was pretty much counting on liking it already, and I did!

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  37. I think it's going to be pretty bad lol.

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  38. I really need to see that movie ASAP.

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  39. The nurse scenes in that trailer were really bad, I don't know what were they thinking shoving them down on us like that

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  40. I disagree about the Smallville comment and I'm a huge Smallville . IMO Supergirl has a better pilot than Smallville

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  41. It's pretty cool! And I am generally much more of a TV guy than movie guy but that one is great.

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  42. At least the trailer was better than Rosewood & Rush Hour!!

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  43. It was okay. Good concept, but it wasn't executed that well.

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  44. Yeah, that isn't really an issue. The Flash also had many procedural elements during the season, but it was handled wonderfully. As long as Supergirl follows the same line that won't be a problem.


    What it is important, however, is to tease a larger storyline, which is what both Arrow and The Flash did (The Flash much faster than Arrow by the way).

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  45. I heard those were really bad.

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  46. Rush Hour was horrible IMO. I think they will shove it on summer or something, it looks really bad.

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  47. I'm telling you,i will never get back those lost mins ever again!!

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  48. LOL, I feel sorry for you.

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  49. Yeah I don't think The Flash was nearly as much procedural as Arrow was in the first year. But the comparison is probably unfair though because Arrow had already built the universe and allowed the producers and writers to get settled on this universe, not to mention to guarantee a loyal following. There wasn't as much need to proceduralize Flash as there was Arrow.

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  50. I actually expected so much more from Code Black & Rush Hour.Sigh!

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  51. I didn't hate Code Black, I just don't find it interesting at all. And I like the lead so that is a shame. But it feels boring and "been there, done that", so it gets a pass from me. Rush Hour on the other hand... I won't be caught watching that for sure

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  52. Really?I'm a huge fan of Smallville too and i thought Supergirl doesn't even come near the former in comparison(Pilot).

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  53. He'll get out of it by seasons end. Fans will ship them, mark my words

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  54. Who is the lead here?I got confused!

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  55. Marcia Gay Harden. She did How to Get Away with Murder and The Newsroom, among others.

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  56. You're forgetting this show is on CBS,not CW.LOL!

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  57. Now i remember.She played Sam's sister,Hannah in HTGAWM.

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  58. I found Limitless a little underwhelming.

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  59. Have you watched the pilot already Babar?

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  60. You're giving CBS too much credit. Keep in mind: CBS produces BatB too

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  61. I still haven't watched the movie so my opinion might change after that.

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  62. Yep, my review should be up there soon.

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  63. LOL! That is true and we all know how that turned out.

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  64. All the "mama" scenes in Code Black trailer were too much for me.

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  65. And are shipping Paige and Walter in Scorpion.

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  66. You are very lucky Babar

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  67. I do feel the sometimes, not too much at other times, lol

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  68. They were cringe worth to me. Like a super bad version of Miranda Bailey in GA early years. And I get annoyed everytime I feel a show is trying to copy Grey's, it bugs me.

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  69. I don't watch that show...in fact the only CBS show I'm watching is POI and that show is produced by WB instead of CBS

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  70. I only watch POI as well.

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  71. CBS really ain't a network for the younger generation ^^

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  72. Sorry my reviews for Limitless and Heartbreaker are a little long. I wanted to perfectly summarize both shows.

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  73. I think they tried to hard with the trailer and tried to demonstrate it like a real ER. At moments it seemed like reality)docu to me. I still look forward to it and can't wait for the pilot.

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  74. Does Limitless have more action than average for a CBS show? Or does it remind you of Scorpion in any way?

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  75. Maybe I just wasn't the intended target then.

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  76. Scorpion is the first CBS drama that airs on CBS that I watch. I intend to check out Code Black and that is my limit for CBS dramas.

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  77. Way less action than Scorpion pilot. Don't watch any other CBS procedurals.

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  78. How was Heartbreaker?Another average Medical drama?

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  79. Did you read my review above? Like I said, it was quite generic.

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  80. I only watch H50 currently from CBS and it's very hip & stylish-I love it.

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  81. I tried the pilot but didn't get into it.


    I'll try Code Black and Limitless.
    Supergirl is surely watched on my part thanks to the DC bonus

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  82. I stopped watchng once it became obvious that James Marsters wouldn't recur heavily.
    The show really wasn't my cup of tea in season 1/2.

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  83. Sorry,read it now.I got kinda confused.If your ex is gay,how can there be any sort of Triangle?!?

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  84. Another ex.

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  85. Thanks. That's somehow disappointing but Scorpion is a high bar anyway. We'll see, I am still very much looking forward to it.

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  86. It also took me a while to get it, at first I thought he became bi again or something lol

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  87. I didn't think it would be that hard to understand, but I fell like I need to elaborate that now.

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  88. I still have all 22 episodes sitting in my laptop.Some of my friends are saying it's too over the top,some are saying it's great.So confused!

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  89. Doesn't even matter just listed Scorpion as an example for a show that ships a main couple. Looking at it they majorly ship to couples. Paige and Walter, Happy and Toby.
    I don't know about Limitless, will give it a try just cause I dig the male lead nothing else.

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  90. Idk maybe it was the whole female superhero or the flying aspect that did it for me . Plus I've loved Melissa since her Glee days . I probably liked it more because it was more fun and it was less serious than Flarrow

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  91. Doesen't Limitless have Bradley Cooper in a recurring role?

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  92. It great if you don't take everything too seriously and don't over analyze it.

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  93. I am a sucker for Bromance on television.This is totally my type of show.No wonder i loved White Collar.

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  94. That's completely okay.Everyone has different preferences.

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  95. They said he'll appear in the pilot and more episodes so no clue how prominently he'll be featured. I dig Jake McDorman since his Greek days.

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  96. I'll watch it tonight, and tomorrow, and the next day................. :D

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  97. It depends on the show.It isn't set in supernatural/fictitious world like Grimm/OUAT etc so it has to go by logic of our world.Looks like I'll have to try the pilot at least.

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  98. I think you will like it. I was very skeptical last year and spent the summer undecided whether or not I would try it out but I ended up liking it. The best comparison I have for you is H50 which I know you like. I believe they even share some producers. The over the top criticism that some people have of it is the same one people have of H50. I personally do not mind it, but I can understand why some would mind it. My guess is that you will be okay with it. Other than that, it has really great team dynamics and a main character that I really like

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  99. I got it upon second reading so maybe it was just me and Joy Haldar that were confused at first. I enjoyed the way you described it by the way, you gave a lot of ideas about what to expect.

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  100. You'll likely go into anaphylactic shock from shipping overdose if you watch Scorpion later in the season. Not one, not two but THREE shipper plots made me turn it of.

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  101. I'll find U and force U to watch CROWDED over and over again. ^_^ :-P

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  102. It is completely procedural?

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  103. Storyline wise: Yes
    Relationship wise: No

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  104. Yes, but there are some ongoing backstories between some characters.

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  105. Yes that was what I meant with relationship wise. The cases portions of the episodes are standalone but the relationship/ character bits aren't. And you can really tell the evolution of Walter, Tobby, Paige etc during the course of the season

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  106. Thanks.Definitely giving it a try-2-3 episodes at least.

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  107. NBC did not release a screener for Heroes Reborn BTW, which pisses me off.
    We’ll be setting up special preview screenings for “Heroes Reborn” at a later time.

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  108. Let me know how it goes! For the record 1x12 is by faaaaar my favorite episode of the season (and pretty much of the fandom I believe)

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  109. NBC is being very rude about all this. Why not even a trailer? How rude.

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  110. Yep, if they had not shown it at the upfronts, then that would have been fine with me, but they did, so why not releases it to the public as well, considering it is a fall show.

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  111. I will.If i like it,it'll take 4-5 days to complete the season.

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  112. I said U have to watch the first 4 eps of Scorpion. The 4th is a great episode centered in Vegas.
    Meanwhile I'm starting my Daredevil campaign of Wednesday, most likely.

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  113. Exactly. It is arrogant on their part to assume the name is self promoting the show.

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  114. Why are they playing hide and seek about this one?Too much secrecy!

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  115. My first 3 years as a nurse were spent in the ER and I had to laugh at the "Mama" nurse. That is a huge mistake and a miscast, IMO. My CN would have kicked my ass out of the hospital. We didn't spend all that time chatting while working on a patient either. I get it's fiction though so we're supposed to suspend belief. The setting is very realistic and I do like Marcia Gay Harden though.

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  116. That's the reason why I've been putting off the binge watches of shows that I have a lot to watch like Daredevil and Bloodline lol. I need time to go through those and I know I will consume them way too fast when I get to them if I like them.

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  117. Let's make a pact.I'll try 4 episodes of Scorpion,you will try 4 episodes of Daredevil by this weekend.

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  118. I just posted on that. It's ridiculous.

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  119. I can't believe you still have resisted the urge to watch Daredevil.I watched all 13 back to back on 10th april!

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  120. The problem is that I feel the same will happen to me. I am going with the easy ones for now lol. But it should be fairy close now. I will let you know!

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  121. Such a close knot community we have.I love it!

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  122. On a different note, I am glad to see The Player with an 8.0. I was looking forward to it quite a lot but the trailer was shaky to me so my enthusiasm fell down a lot. Still going to try it though but it is good to see it with good reviews.

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  123. If I start on Wednesday I'll watch the season by Sunday, latest. I have a 3 ep head start.
    So U'll watch the 4 Scorpion eps and I'll take down the season till Sunday and will discuss.

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  124. True story!

    By the way, I also highly recommend Wayward Pines, I am loving that show

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  125. The "Ratings Summary" table is becoming more and more negative as more reviews come in.

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  126. I actually hated the trailer.I was surprised to see it got 8.0!

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  127. Done.We'll talk about them on Monday.

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  128. Everyone i know has recommended it to me too.I'll watch after a few more episodes pile up.

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  129. My rating is the same.

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  130. I think it has only one review so far.

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  131. Great! I watched the pilot and the second episode back to back and it already got really twisted, it's very cool.

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  132. I didn't hate it but I was underwhelmed. But could have easily been a poorly put together trailer. My issue with it is that it made it look like a bunch of action scenes thrown together with cliches and little sustenance behind it. But that can easily be a trailer issue and not a show issue.

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  133. Makes sense.I'll have to wait for the pilot to pass my final verdict.

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  134. It was beyond horrible IMO.

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  135. It was awful. Such a stellar cast, and yet the jokes were just unoriginal and not funny.

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  136. It was an intense and action packed pilot, but at times a little disjointed. It does though set future episodes up nicely with a well thought out layout. In a way similar to Person of Interest.

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  137. I would still rate it higher than PAT, that's how awful PAT is.

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  138. That's a very good comparison in my book. But the disjointed part was what feared me in the trailer. We'll see. Thanks!

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  139. Babar, will you review ABC pilots this year?

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  140. Person of Interest is about the closest comparison I could think of to it.
    Some parts though just didn't make sense, but I guess they'll be looked at in future episodes, we'll if the ending is anything to go by.

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  141. I started one episode a day but few episodes in and I couldn't anymore. Watched the last 7 in two days.

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  142. Hahaha.It's highly addictive,very hard to resist!

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  143. I would as well. It was a fun and light superhero show, but far from anything special. Mellisa
    Benoist though did shine as Kara, in my opinion, but some of the supporting cast really let the pilot down.

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  144. If we get them, then yes.

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  145. I was looking forward to seeing Game of Silence as well as Heroes. Shame.

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  146. Based from what you guys are saying, NBC sure missed it with comedies again. LOL.

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  147. I have no idea what NBC execs were thinking when the ordered PAT to series and decided to premiere it in the fall.

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  148. Yeah I enjoyed Chyler and Calista in their respective roles(didn't expect that at all), but Jimmy and the Co-worker were so randomly placed in the story. Mechad was sweet in his portrayal but expected a more original JO vibe.
    And I need Kara to be a bit blonder, I mean really she is SG for crying out loud.

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  149. I like PAT and Crowded's scores.

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  150. It has certainly less action than some of the other CBS shows, but it has nice pacing and it's pretty fun. It makes up for what it lacks on action

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  151. Babar what is the news on ABC pilot? Will ABC Share Or Not Share with U/us?

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  152. I thought it was pretty fun; I haven't watched the movie, so maybe that makes a difference, but as a whole I thought it had a lot of potential and I ended up enjoying it quite much

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  153. I see Ur commenting but U aren't entering scores and mini "reviews". Any particular reason?

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  154. I entered a score for Limitless, it should be updated any time soon

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  155. I look forward to Ur numbers, we have a similar taste. ^_^

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  156. Spoiler alert; I gave Limitless an 8 out of 10 ;)

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  157. Neat. I will have to check it out than. =)
    Any news if ABC will give U screeners this year?

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  158. I'm really surprised by how much I liked Limitless; I usually don't watch procedurals, let alone CBS dramas (aside from TGW), but this one was pretty fun and engaging. I can see myself coming back to watch every week if they keep it this entertaining.

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  159. If we do, it'd be awesome (I'd love to see Quantico's screener!), but there's no certainty we will.
    FOX, CBS, NBC and CW for sure, but ABC? That's a big question mark,
    Babar may get access to some, but that's to be seen too (as he said above)

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  160. 6 here. I'm a little less forgiving since Berlantini has Arrow and The Flash behind him and both their pilots were far stronger than Supergirl.
    Still not bad, but underwhelming in comparison

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  161. There are a bunch of ABC screeners I would love to see and get the spoilers about, even though I'm still in crazy mode for Ouat S05.
    Just one more question and I won't boreder U: CW's Containment/Cordon screener, did U get it or no cause of the mid-season premier?
    Saw Ur Limitless entry. I assumed the cast had to pick up their game, not really a fan of the female lead. I thought she was quite dull in Dexter and not really up her game. At least in the 2and a half seasons I've watched.

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  162. If Blindspot does not hit, NBC should just close up shop as nothing will work on their network. Even they can't mess it up as the script is that good and it's good to see the pilot measures up. They got handed their next hit.

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  163. I can't wait to see People Are Talking to see how bad it is!LOL!

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  164. Haha that's what I'm predicting too lol.

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  165. Code Black's trailer was terrible. It's so bad that it should be an exercise in what not to do for a trailer.

    Because of that, is anyone really surprised that Code Black scored the lowest of all fall pilots on intent to view? CBS will quickly code black Code Black.

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  166. Where can I find that list of intent to view?

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  167. Pilot reviews Containment or Legends of Tomorrow?

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  168. Ad Age (requires subscription) has articles from both buyers and social media buzz. Also, focus group response.

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  169. As far as I am aware, there is not even a pilot shot for LoT.

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  170. We have not received the pilot for Containment and LoT won't begin shooting until August.

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  171. Ah thanks. Yes, I remember always seeing that chart in September which is why I was wondering how you knew about it already

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  172. Heartbreaker - Really? We meet three guys she has been with just over the course of the pilot?
    People Are Talking - I'm slightly inclined to watch it just to see how bad it is.

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  173. That's disappointing to here. Bruce_F mentioned in another post that the trailer felt like a condensed version of the pilot and I bummed he was actually right about it.

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  174. I just finished watching the pilot and it has a really cliched ended. *shakes head*

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  175. So I just finished watching Supergirl and it's full of so many superhero show cliches, I can't even...
    Right now, I don't know if I will give the show another shot.

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  176. Hopefully! Fingers crossed. Thx for the info.

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  177. Thx for the reply. I really hope U'll get them. ^^

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  178. Sadly, he is. I was pretty bummed about it.
    I hope the following episodes are better now that it has the introduction out of the way

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  179. If Crazy Ex-Girlfriend will be another amazing surprise just like Jane The Virgin, i will never doubt CW again

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  180. People are Talking. LMAO

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  181. After watching just a trailer for People are Talking, i am surprised someone has given it 2, because it is clear 1 for me

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  182. I'd have given it a 0 had there been the option for it.

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  183. How does Crowded compare to Bad Judge, A to Z, Marry Me and One Big Happy? Is it better than some of these 4?

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  184. And Babar only you got the screener for Heartbreakers?

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  185. No, not everyone has had time to watch it yet. Reviews will be added as people on the team have time to watch them.

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  186. I guess no one else have watched it yet. I want to see what others have to say about it.

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  187. Thanks for the answer, I thought only some of the members got the chance to see it.

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  188. That's silly and ridiculous. The network is being rude because they aren't acting on your timeline? Really?

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  189. People Are Talking should improve massively with the recasting, though I can't say more at this stage!

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  190. How could I become a part of the team?

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