Try not to lose your heads, “Sleepy Hollow” fans — Variety has learned that Orlando Jones (who plays fan-favorite character Frank Irving) will not be returning to the Fox show for its upcoming third season.
That news really sucks :(. I liked him. Way to add to the rocky uncertainty around a third season. I'm happy to have the show coming back and see the characters I love that are still there, but it'll be interesting to see how they continue to handle these changes as time goes on.
Ohhhhhhh, that's what she's supposed to be in? Yeah, I'd heard potential positive things...as someone else noted, if there's supposed to be one main lead character, though, and she's just guesting in the pilot, that I could be okay with. But if she were a regular, then I'd be very nervous.
I didn't mind the character to begin with but I hated how he replaced Jenny so many times where her character could have been used. It seemed redundant, you have someone who can find magical artifacts and is a badass and has genuine stakes in what is happening, why use the new guy all the time instead. It seemed especially weird as Jenny was made a regular in S2 then misused.
I can never hate/dislike any character played by matt,so i'm biased but you do have a solid point.Jenny was seriously underutilized this season,i didn't like that.
I think he was fine in the role but I wished they had used him more with Jenny or Frank rather than instead of them, that would had made a nicer dynamic.
Considering all the stuff I've heard about how FOX is struggling as a network overall, that sadly doesn't surprise me. Sucks that good shows have to bear the brunt of those struggles.
They lost tax incentives in NC so they moved production to Atlanta. I wonder what cost them more? Moving the entire production or Orlando's salary? Not a fan of this. (I live in NC so I'm really not happy) No more walking down the street to see New Hanover Courthouse shut down for filming. No more River Walk. Ugh. I hate it.
He pretty much replaced jenny and he was interested in a abbie one day then when he got rejected he went with jenny, since he couldn't have one sister he just got the other sister. The writers thought ohhh let's add a hot guy to the cast but we didnt need any of that we wanted good storytelling instead of hawleys mess of a character.
Thank you I hated that he replaced jenny. I wouldn't be surprised if the actress did decide to leave the show since she didn't have much to do in season 2.
It's logical. They didn't know how to use his character properly and it wasn't the same show we loved for its first season. He's too good to be wasted there.
It's not like this show is not going to turn into a shipping focused love-snooz drama full of Ichabbie moments featuring hours of "I don't get this [insert new invention]" with her answering in some snarky way.
In fact...why not cut the headless horseman too? I mean....it's about the soulless showrunners, not the mystery
They already got rid of two leads, if their budget drops deep enough to prohibit a fourth regular they might produce the show for a sandwich and a coke
This is a huge let down. Although I don’t know what the plan for season three is specifically, the writers sidelined Irving for a good chunk of season two. I was expecting some sort of way they could integrate him back into the storyline of season three.
I can only imagine your frustration. I would be very annoyed if they moved production if I lived that close to it.
They probably moved the production to save money and maybe Orlando's salary was just too high. Perhaps, and of course this is only speculation, maybe they had to trim down there budget if they wanted a Season 3.
They killed off all hope I had when they started fan pandering and made Katrina evil out of the blue. I hope Orlando Jones gets a new gig that's worthy of him.
step 1 of shipper appeasement: turn the characters romantic interest into a villain and thus uneligable for romance, making it perfectly fine for the shipped couple to hook up
I would be really good with that. I would also love if someone gave Mark Sheppard, Tim Omundson, and Orlando Jones a show. I think they would be awesome together.
Yeah, 2 was....a weird follow up to 1. I mean, season 1 didn't hold my interest for long either but 2 really proved that this show has nowhere to go but down.
The premise is limited and would only offer good writers material for more
I never really cared for the direction they ended up taking his character in to begin with..guess he didnt either maybe...they def will have to step it up some if they want to keep their fan base as this show has been half and half hit and miss..
Losing Irving is a pity. But on the bright side at least we didn't lose Ichabod Crane. I like Toms acting style and the occasional jokes. Will give it a go, to see how it goes. Not giving up on Sleepy Hollow, just yet!
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And my enthusiasm for this show just keeps on dropping.
ReplyDeleteOh, no.
ReplyDeleteI actually enjoyed his storyline but I wonder what will they do now. Act as he died or went away?
ReplyDeleteBudget cuts?
ReplyDeleteToo bad
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ReplyDeleteActually i should be doing this but i actually don't mind.Never found this character appealing in the first place,so.......
And the actress who plays jenny is in a cw pilot so she might not return either. Or be used less than she was last season if that's even possible.
ReplyDeleteI guess they will say he moved far away with his family or maybe he will never get mentioned again, I wouldn't be surprised with this show.
ReplyDeleteThat news really sucks :(. I liked him.
ReplyDeleteWay to add to the rocky uncertainty around a third season. I'm happy to have the show coming back and see the characters I love that are still there, but it'll be interesting to see how they continue to handle these changes as time goes on.
Which pilot?
ReplyDeleteNO! We can't lose Jenny, too! Agh! Is it bad I hope that pilot fails?
ReplyDeleteSighs, its like why not stick with the core 4? If they bring another Hawley type character in again I might scream.
ReplyDeleteBudget cutsss
ReplyDeleteTales of the dark side
ReplyDeleteI know I had to stop watching last season and thought maybe I'll catch up before the new season begins but it looks like I won't.
ReplyDeleteI know I hated how little screen time she had last season.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable. I would have preferred they kept Frank instead of Jenny, but that's just my opinion.
ReplyDeleteTruthfully I wouldn't bother, I mean I stuck with it but it was a mess and whilst I will give S3 a chance my expectations are low.
ReplyDeleteWhat was so bad about Hawley according to you?I'm curious.
ReplyDeleteActually TDS is turning out to be a dark horse for the pickup.
ReplyDeleteSmh
ReplyDeleteYeah after this announcement I'm officially over sleepy hollow. I have to many other shows to watch lol.
ReplyDeleteIs she in TftD?
ReplyDeleteThat means half the cast is gone
ReplyDeleteThen that's no big deal, because it is supposed to have only one lead, Kris Lemche. She's probably just guest starring in the pilot.
ReplyDeleteThat show has only one lead and she'll probably be only guest starring.
ReplyDeleteThat's good news coz i like Jenny very much.
ReplyDeleteOhhhhhhh, that's what she's supposed to be in?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'd heard potential positive things...as someone else noted, if there's supposed to be one main lead character, though, and she's just guesting in the pilot, that I could be okay with. But if she were a regular, then I'd be very nervous.
I didn't mind the character to begin with but I hated how he replaced Jenny so many times where her character could have been used. It seemed redundant, you have someone who can find magical artifacts and is a badass and has genuine stakes in what is happening, why use the new guy all the time instead. It seemed especially weird as Jenny was made a regular in S2 then misused.
ReplyDeleteTrue, sometimes you have to let go of the shows that just frustrate you and stay with the ones you can enjoy.
ReplyDeleteI can never hate/dislike any character played by matt,so i'm biased but you do have a solid point.Jenny was seriously underutilized this season,i didn't like that.
ReplyDeleteI'm suddenly much less enthusiastic about a third season.
ReplyDeleteI think he was fine in the role but I wished they had used him more with Jenny or Frank rather than instead of them, that would had made a nicer dynamic.
ReplyDeleteThis show is so done...
ReplyDeleteUgh. Irving and his family were a big piece of the show's heart.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the behind-the-scenes story behind this is?
WHAT???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
ReplyDeleteApparently budget cuts are behind it.
ReplyDeleteWTF? Now I'm pissed. I had hopes for a better S3. Ichabod, Abbie, Jenny and Irving.
ReplyDeleteConsidering all the stuff I've heard about how FOX is struggling as a network overall, that sadly doesn't surprise me. Sucks that good shows have to bear the brunt of those struggles.
ReplyDeleteThey lost tax incentives in NC so they moved production to Atlanta. I wonder what cost them more? Moving the entire production or Orlando's salary? Not a fan of this. (I live in NC so I'm really not happy) No more walking down the street to see New Hanover Courthouse shut down for filming. No more River Walk. Ugh. I hate it.
ReplyDeleteOh well hopefullu she doesn't leave then.
ReplyDeleteHe pretty much replaced jenny and he was interested in a abbie one day then when he got rejected he went with jenny, since he couldn't have one sister he just got the other sister. The writers thought ohhh let's add a hot guy to the cast but we didnt need any of that we wanted good storytelling instead of hawleys mess of a character.
ReplyDeleteThank you I hated that he replaced jenny. I wouldn't be surprised if the actress did decide to leave the show since she didn't have much to do in season 2.
ReplyDeleteThat was my first thought.
ReplyDeleteAt least he was hot.LOL!
ReplyDeleteIt's logical. They didn't know how to use his character properly and it wasn't the same show we loved for its first season. He's too good to be wasted there.
ReplyDeleteWell yeah he was lol. Not hating on the actor.
ReplyDeleteEhhhhh...not my type, really. But to each their own :).
ReplyDeletelol Katia almost surely won't return. John Nobles exited. Only Ichabbie stays lol
ReplyDeleteVery happy. I just didn't understand why he was there. I liked Corbin much better.
ReplyDeleteIt's not like this show is not going to turn into a shipping focused love-snooz drama full of Ichabbie moments featuring hours of "I don't get this [insert new invention]" with her answering in some snarky way.
ReplyDeleteIn fact...why not cut the headless horseman too? I mean....it's about the soulless showrunners, not the mystery
They already got rid of two leads, if their budget drops deep enough to prohibit a fourth regular they might produce the show for a sandwich and a coke
ReplyDeleteyay...... -,-
ReplyDeleteYeah, no regret from dropping this show from my schedule.
ReplyDeleteThis is a huge let down. Although I don’t know what the plan for season three is specifically, the writers sidelined Irving for a good chunk of season two. I was expecting some sort of way they could integrate him back into the storyline of season three.
ReplyDeleteHis character was worthless anyway. I think if anything it will improve the show's chances.
ReplyDeleteYea they tend to do that with this show. I think mainly FOX shows in general too
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine your frustration. I would be very annoyed if they moved production if I lived that close to it.
ReplyDeleteThey probably moved the production to save money and maybe Orlando's salary was just too high. Perhaps, and of course this is only speculation, maybe they had to trim down there budget if they wanted a Season 3.
Smart man. Getting out while there's still time.
ReplyDeleteThey better bring their A game this season, or else it's curtains.
ReplyDeleteThis bodes ill
ReplyDeleteOk, it could be budget cuts, but it's just been announced the he's joining a show called "High school 51"
ReplyDeleteLol, I had hope Dahne. A small window, but it was there. Now with the move, losing Irving. I just see chaos happening for S3.
ReplyDeleteThey killed off all hope I had when they started fan pandering and made Katrina evil out of the blue. I hope Orlando Jones gets a new gig that's worthy of him.
ReplyDeleteDidn't they turn Katrina into a villain in the end in a really contrived way.
ReplyDeleteYeah,
ReplyDeletestep 1 of shipper appeasement: turn the characters romantic interest into a villain and thus uneligable for romance, making it perfectly fine for the shipped couple to hook up
As much as Robbie Thompson loves him, I wouldn't be surprised to see him guest on an episode next season.
ReplyDeleteUnless they do it's not appeasement. It's just kill off the scrappy. It could just be that. Depends on where three goes.
ReplyDeletelooking at the way the writers handled social media in the past and paved the way I doubt that it won't happen.
ReplyDeleteSeason 3 is the last, we all know that so....it'll happen I guess (but I hope it won't)
I'm just glad I dropped the show after one. Heard two was a f*cking mess.
ReplyDeleteI would be really good with that. I would also love if someone gave Mark Sheppard, Tim Omundson, and Orlando Jones a show. I think they would be awesome together.
ReplyDeleteYeah, 2 was....a weird follow up to 1. I mean, season 1 didn't hold my interest for long either but 2 really proved that this show has nowhere to go but down.
ReplyDeleteThe premise is limited and would only offer good writers material for more
I never really cared for the direction they ended up taking his character in to begin with..guess he didnt either maybe...they def will have to step it up some if they want to keep their fan base as this show has been half and half hit and miss..
ReplyDeleteThank god! I can't stand him!
ReplyDeleteNooooo. :( I love Frank.
ReplyDeleteLosing Irving is a pity. But on the bright side at least we didn't lose Ichabod Crane. I like Toms acting style and the occasional jokes. Will give it a go, to see how it goes. Not giving up on Sleepy Hollow, just yet!
ReplyDeleteI don't watch the show, but I've gathered he's quite a popular character, so that doesn't seem good....
ReplyDeleteIt's ok for me and he's not a factor in the mission of Ichabod and Abbie. So, cutting him off don't affect to the story.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, let Katrina die is not ok since she has an important role to help the witness but Mark kill her for nonsense reason!
His tweets were the life of the internet after the latest episode screened. Please Fox employ him for commentary on all shows.
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