Update: 10th May Here is a new Promo.
Update: 7th May Here is a new promo.
Get a first look at Sunday’s episode of #HeroesAndVillains! pic.twitter.com/RG0biSQ5OU
— Heroes And Villains (@OnceABC) May 4, 2015Once Upon a Time - Episode 4.21 & 4.22 - Operation Mongoose (Season Finale) - Promos *Updated*
May 10, 2015
Once Upon A TimeUpdate: 10th May Here is a new Promo.
Update: 7th May Here is a new promo.
OH SHIT. This is exciting and terrifying.
ReplyDeleteThis is everything
ReplyDeleteSnows evil? Charmings a prisoner? What in the world?
ReplyDeleteOMG can't wait till next week.
ReplyDeleteWell this should be interesting.
ReplyDeletehow does Hook fit into this? does fit into the villain category?
ReplyDeletethey better fix this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Henry it's time to be a hero again, save the world
ReplyDeleteI like snows "look" when she's evil. This is going to be odd.
ReplyDeleteI definitely think Henry will come up huge!
ReplyDeleteoperation M, was about Regina and Henry and Regina is not in the promo , snow white like the Evil Queen no thanks
ReplyDeleteand i can't wait!!! it's going to be amazing!!!!
ReplyDeletebut why does she have short hair if she's in the Enchanted Forest?
ReplyDeleteGood question. Guess we'll find out!
ReplyDeleteWow.... this was totally epic.... amazing pen ultimate episode....one of the best!
ReplyDeleteI'm loving this. I hope Neal shows up some how some way with this new book and story
ReplyDeleteoh that'd be AMAZING!!!!
ReplyDeleteEmma became Maleficent. She didn't turn evil.
ReplyDeletewhat makes you sure?
ReplyDeleteDoesn't she look like her?
ReplyDeletei guess but why not like gold since they're basically the most powerful creatures in all of history?
ReplyDeleteSo Rumpelstiltskin become Prince Charming, Emma becomes Maleficent, Snow White becomes the Evil Queen, etc...???
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Charming is the Huntsman. :3
ReplyDeleteOmg this looks amazing! So can't wait to see it. Am I the only one that finds dark Snow and Charming really sexy?
ReplyDeleteCan't wait always wanted to see Dark Snow
ReplyDeleteim thinking! who will be the new dark one in this story?
ReplyDeleteafter rumple becoming a hero, who will get the job?
I didn't even notice that the first time. ha I want to see Charming with a wolf by his side. :D
ReplyDeleteIf he's the huntsman, I love that even with the switch he's not a super villain. I never considered Graham really a bad guy.
Shouldnt be Belle an evil one too¿?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure it's supposed to be a complete opposite thing. Maybe she'll stay good just simply because Rumple wants her to stay that way. Or maybe she does have a dark side to her in this 'verse and we just don't see it in the promo.
ReplyDeleteThis role reversal is a really fun premise for a season finale! I wonder how it will turn out. Hopefully as enjoyable as last year!
ReplyDeleteLooks like Henry is going to fix everything. Something tells me he will become the next author
ReplyDeletewouldnt be fun si she is the dark one in this role reversals thing?....
ReplyDeleteThis will be like a movie finale like last year.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be able to handle that lol
ReplyDeleteI imagine ehr being ehr sweet self and then using that to manipulate everyone.
ReplyDeleteMore than likely because part of Rumple's happy ending is having his son back
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure in their minds the villains don't want their happy ending to be them being heroes. I'm confused...
ReplyDeleteThis looks intriguing!
ReplyDeleteBut how long will we stay in the fiction world??? I mean that bts scene shot which we witnessed has to happen! So the first episode will probably be the fiction world while the 2nd will conclude the season. Where is Regina in all this mess? Will she be the hero and save the day after Henry informs her about everything.
OMG. this finale is going to be EPIC! I am so excited
ReplyDeleteMy only reaction:
ReplyDeletehttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02443/goosebumps_2443265b.jpg
I'm counting on it since s04e01 "A Tale of Two Sisters".
ReplyDeleteOn only you.
ReplyDeleteWe can say, that we have secon "Snow [the] Queen".
ReplyDeleteI need a sneak peek!!!!! Ohhh this is torture!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNext week is tooooo far away!
AWESOME ! But if Rumple's a knight...who's the Dark One ?
ReplyDeleteCharming's better dark...I already enjoyed the evil twin brother James...
ReplyDeleteFrom the pics, it looks like Regina is Snow.
ReplyDeletewhich pics?
ReplyDeleteSnow doesn't pull of that dress as Regina does but still its a veeeeery nice idea to turn the tables. I just wondered what is happening to Emma at the end of the promo and how she exists if she is Snow and Charming's child. Maybe she is locked up in a limbo?
ReplyDeleteI thought it could be Emma. Although I don't know how she exsists at that point of time.
ReplyDeleteWell Regina did save the day most of the time. It would be awesome though to see her doing it as a hero and finally official.^^
ReplyDeleteYou're right. That is a paradox. I think the author will write the whole story anew and not a just a rule that is a paradox.
ReplyDeleteyes, i hope actually all the characters have a whole new story and not only took the place of another one.
ReplyDeleteThere is a tweet on the top of this page. There are 4 pics in it. In one of them, it clearly shows Regina in a Snow White Fur Costume.
ReplyDeleteAaaaa. My comments load from the earliest. Will check them out when I get home. Thank U very much.
ReplyDeleteOh wow, I have so many questions now ...
ReplyDelete- How does the writer transfer all the characters from one book to another
and how does Henry get in there?
- When does “Heroes and Villains” start – timeline-wise? Has Regina ever
become queen or is Daniel still alive?
- Is the effect of the ”no-baby”-potion permanent for Regina or can it be
broken/reversed by true love or some other magic?
- Does the author end up changing conditions that have a lasting effect
for someone in Storybrooke? Are parts of the past undone so to speak?
- What drives Isaac? What is his motivation? Pure excitement? Just because
he can? Or does he have another agenda?
- Thinking that Henry will be the hero that brings everyone back to
Storybrooke, will they all remember the other story, “Heroes and Villains”?
This is so messed up, who the hell is the good guy here and what the hell is Henry doing in the enchanted forest?
ReplyDeleteIt is very confusing. I asked myself similar questions. But the author cannot just write all villains happy and heroes to became villains. This rule would be a vicious circle...
ReplyDeleteI wondered about Isaac too. He seemed very excited to help Regina until she did not want him to write anything. I think he is just slightly addicted to this power and writing. If things could become undone maybe recent troubles like Zelena's pregnancy could be deleted. Everything could be possible... Hmmm... But I don't think the producers will go as deep into this complex in this episode. They did not go as deep with time travel either, although Emma and Hook must have screwed up with many timelines.
I think you're right. I just hate introducing something this complex and then only scratching the surface ... But I guess we'll see ...
ReplyDeleteI assume Regina will take up her mothers faith and be a Miller's daughter.
ReplyDeleteThis looks so exciting! Can't wait to see how they will torture us over the summer.
So... Is Regina Daniel or Robin's wife ? Is Charming James or David ? Is there any curse ever on the Enchanted Forest ? is Baelfire alive and with his father Knight Rumple ? Oh my God, give me an Advil !
ReplyDeleteAbout Henry! There is a pic on TvLine with him in a cave with the "Heroes & Villains" book. Remember Rumple said in this episode there is always a loop hole.
ReplyDeleteI assume Henry can't be erased by the Author so some version of him has to be in either universe. So this is either a loop hole Henry or the AU Henry that is just as curious and big believer as "our" Henry is.
I think The Author can't revive characters just write a story for the alive characters, that is probably why Daniel, Neal or Cora will be alive.
No clue on the baby potion.
Source @TvLine
ReplyDeleteRight? And does she have children? She won't have taken the potion if she's not the evil queen. And what happens when they come back to Storybrooke? Emma looks positively mad. I'd like half your Advil ;-)
ReplyDelete*rimshot* LOL
ReplyDeleteHOLY CRAP!!!!! The Author really did it, he changed the ENTIRE history of this show, even in the real world, i mean the Book's published, but is Henry a paradox? how can he even be born, Emma looks like she's in the Enchanted Forest so how can she even give birth to Henry if she's grown up in the Enchanted Forest? can he remember the REAL history? I can't get over how big Jared has gotten
ReplyDeleteApprentice looks to be in this
ReplyDeleteBased on past writings and this season
ReplyDeleteTime is irrelevent in this show
The waters of lake Nostros can return the baby
Doubtful as he is a servant to fate and the Sorcerer
Currently a deal with Rumple but ultimately, he needs to write in order to be an author
Everyone has hopes they hold on to.
As far as it goes I think The Author can't kill or revive people, that is why we won't see Neal, Daniel or Cora and that is why Henry is there.
ReplyDeleteSo there are multiple options, either a crazy Emma gave birth and Henry somehow landed in real world and with his natural curiosity and truest believer heart he could've somehow ended up in the EF, most likely trough Isaac.
The other option is that Henry is the Loophole and somehow wasn't affected by the new writings as he wasn't born within the EF and wasn't part of the first book.
I think they will twist things and Rumple will become the Author. Henry is still to young for that.
ReplyDeletesomething's better than Advil...
ReplyDeleteSo it's kind of a reversal but a bit like Rumple want it so Belle seems to stay good. So in that perspective, I see a bit of Hook fighting with Charming in black and I'm wondering about it. As Rumple hates him and he has been with the good guys, will he "stay dark" or maybe he will be in the "middle", I don't really know.
ReplyDeleteLooks so good!
ReplyDeleteI think Emma's opposite is Lily. so Lily will become the savior and Emma the anti-savior. but you're right Emma as the dark one and Rumple the savior would be much cooler.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait til Sunday! This could be the better episode of ouat!!
ReplyDeletethis is so fucked up i think i'm having an aneurysm
ReplyDeleteWhy is Killian fighting with Dark Charming? Is he trying to rescue Emma? What is wrong with Emma? She seems insane. And Dark Snow looks awesome! Can't wait to see her toss some fireballs around.
ReplyDeleteI'm going with loophole, and I like the theory that the Author can't kill or revive people. That explains why Henry doesn't disappear, and it also explains why all the dead people aren't brought back to life (Marian, Neal, Graham, Cora, etc.)
ReplyDeleteCharming and Snow locked Emma in a tower?
ReplyDeleteI am going to guess that we will see Hook the pirate from the days of season 2 - bad boy pirate
ReplyDeleteAnd i think Henry will find Hook and ask for his help to get to Emma... in this flipped version of heroes and villians.
soooo epic. Now I won't rest untill I know for sure my Rumple is in S5. I need also more SQ & Rumbelle & CapSwan
ReplyDeleteEPIC . Now I won't rest untill I know for sure my Rumple is in S5. I need also more SQ & Rumbelle & CapSwan
ReplyDeleteI do not want to fix Henry this.. :D would be cool seeing this AU story in a whole season
ReplyDeleteSnow and Charming look super hot with that dark make up! And Regina is going to take the role of Snow White! So cray!
ReplyDeleteIt surely would be, but I don't know if the writers would commit to a whole AU story for a season long arc. Those things are usually reserved for a couple of episodes at most, because after everything is fixed the development on the AU are essentially non existant. That's why last's year time travelling finale only lasted 2 episodes, because further changes would then render everything that has been worked so far useless
ReplyDeleteI still wonder what is Will Scarlet's point in OUaT and why was he introduced in show?
ReplyDeleteI like that the promo changed the title of the show, it's a nice touch
ReplyDeleteThat would be my S4 biggest complain: why bring in a character and give it next to 0 use?
ReplyDeleteLol I had wondered if they'd change the title of the show, cool that they did.
ReplyDeletenice touch on the title change LOL
ReplyDelete"- Is the effect of the ”no-baby”-potion permanent for Regina or can it be
ReplyDeletebroken/reversed by true love or some other magic?"
Water from lake Nostos! When given a cup of water, Snow White drinks it, and only after this, King George smugly explains that the water has cursed her to be barren. Later, Snow White figure out that Ruth had Lancelot switch the lake water into the cup for the marriage ceremony.- s02e03 "Lady of the Lake"
Don't have to be Neal. It can be young Balefire.
ReplyDeleteOh.. That would be like...
ReplyDeletehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9E1soGWi6d4/THevCYkswXI/AAAAAAAAL7Y/ZDv1tFhCmec/s1600/Nuclear_blast.jpg
Did the serie's name changed? Or it is just because the book's name changed? I am confused! xD
ReplyDeleteBoth it seems but it's just temporary.
ReplyDeleteSoooo Ginnifer is really digging this being evil! Good for her.
ReplyDeleteExcited for Sunday and the whole week after that.
Exactly and I bet Rumpel has a little bottle in his shoop with a little bit of that water
ReplyDeleteEven bigger than that!
ReplyDeleteI'm so looking forward to these two finale episode. This season when i first heard Frozen was going to be incorporated into the mix i was like really because i don't like frozen however this season has been really good just like previous seasons. This show still is good not like other shows which lose their spark after a few seasons in my opinion ... well for me anyway :D
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know how it will work? Will the worst villain become the best hero? Or is it basically just role switch?
ReplyDeleteCrazy idea what if emma is Regina daughter
ReplyDeleteIs Emma the new Maleficent?? she sure looks just like her...
ReplyDeleteEMMA IS THE NEW DARK ONE THIS SEASON FINALE IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.
ReplyDeleteNote: Lancelot mentioned the Holy Grail in that scene so it is implied that it could have been the chalice and not the water that healed Emma as that whole section of the show messes something fierce with Arthurian legends which have the Lady of the Lake being Lancelot's mother and sending Lancelot to find Arthur. Lancelot wanted to be the knight to look for the grail which it was thought was in the items Rumple pillaged from Camelot but what if it were not and Lancelot had the cup, not Percival or Galahad. Snow drinks from the Holy Grail and all is cured.
ReplyDeletePossible, but they didn't confirm that. Until they do, it's just water from lake Nostos.
ReplyDeleteThe wishing well is the water of lake Nostros which was why August wanted Emma to drink it season one and why he used it to make the new pages magic. The well helps return what is lost including the love magic to the people of Storybrooke.
ReplyDeleteThey never confirmed the water was from Lake Nostos either; Snow merely assumed it out loud to Lancelot because Ruth died. The idea is that the drop of water from the lake is in Lancelot's flask and that Ruth does not drink it so when they fill the chalice for the wedding the drop is in the chalice now. It could be either the cup or the contents.
ReplyDeleteThey never confirmed it was the water. THEY SHOWED in this specific episode it was the water.
ReplyDeleteThey showed a sip of water go in a flask that Ruth is presented. The wedding vows follow out of luck. Lancelot fills the cup and mentions the grail and later you hear Snow theorize that Ruth never drank the water. Lancelot wants to know if it is a boy or a girl. Snow says girl. Interesting when you remember Rumple knew in prison Snow's baby was a girl and only wanted to know her name. "Tell me her name" hmmm. Funny how we miss the things we should be paying attention to most , for example the fact that there is no reason to think this is even Lancelot at all. Glamor can make fools of us all
ReplyDeleteOk. Coming back to the beginning. Water of Nostos healed Snow White. That's all.
ReplyDeletePerhaps .But nothing is ever as simple as one thinks. Mighty convenient the way the water helps Snow but does nothing to Charming,... Same cup, Same drink. Also convenient that Ruth dies as a sacrifice to the Lady of the Lake for this magic as required. You keep accepting things as you do and surprises will abound. Bust ask yourself why bring up the Grail at all an mix the stories?
ReplyDeleteO.o It's the same promo like the first one, the only change is that it says Tonight.
ReplyDeleteBTW I noticed the promo pic Emma and Preview Emma doesn't wear the same clothes. So could preview Emma be whats left behind at the end.
maybe thats how the episode ends with her locked up .... that would be a good ending :D...and a long wait for season 5 to start.
ReplyDeleteQuite possible. Burlt maybe that is how her character starts or ends after/before meeting Regina.
ReplyDeleteWide range of possibilities.
destruction of Krypton then? LOL
ReplyDeletethe new promo isn't new
ReplyDeleteoh he can't erase people? so even though Neal and Emma haven't met, Henry's still existing?
ReplyDeleteit's just a fun thing the show's doing because everything's changed,, except Henry
ReplyDeletewell considering Gold crowned himself a Knight, i'm guessing your theory's right
ReplyDeleteif we take this as everything's changed, maybe Dark Mary Margaret has kept Emma locked up for years and tonight regina, Hook or Henry free her and she calms down
ReplyDeleteLol
ReplyDeleteaka Lacey?
ReplyDeleteMary Margaret at the least, remember David's Graham in this AU
ReplyDeleteI think it's that. They said somewhere that we will know Emma's role at the end of the first part so maybe the first part ends with her screaming in a tower and then after she met Regina and others and do her stuff. Though I'd like the perspective of the finale ending like that.
ReplyDeleteThe season ending with Emma captivated and insane, yeah like I would survive that 4 and a half month break.
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