I can't wait for Legends of Tomorrow. The ATOM has big potential and i am excited for him to have new storyline other than just being part of love triangle.
At least they gave Laurel her poster before this guy. Here's hoping the spinoff being scheduled for midseason doesn't mean he's sticking around arrow in the beginning of season 4.
All the Ray hate makes me laugh. I like him. And this is coming from a former Chuck fan who hated Brandon Routh's face in S3. (don't judge me, I used to be a crazy shipper once)
Ray is a quirky character, full of positivity, a hero in development - and BR has played him well.
Ah the infamous Daniel Shaw. I still remember the charah shippers saying they'll boycott after Chuck vs. the Mask. He was boring as a protagonist, and a terrible love interest, but loved him as a villain.
Why not? It makes sense that Arrow and Flash will be using parts of their early season episodes to set up the LOM launch, just as Arrow set up the Flash launch in 2013.
Yeah, says you...but that's not the case for everybody else. He has not earned that "hero" title. Not at all. Not in the eyes of others. That will probably start to happen when his show starts. Then they can probably start to say what you're saying.
The character of Ray Palmer isn't one I like much. In my opinion they mishandled him and I've never been able like him. So the sooner he leaves Arrow the better to me.
Looks like his shrinking abilities will manifest themselves on LOM, probably sooner rather than later.
I hope there is a "Justice League" (or pre "Justice League") type episode on one of the shows, or some epic three-show crossover. With the LOM premiere, there will be seven established costumed JLA'ers in the DC/CW universe, and at least five of them will be regular cast members on one of the three series.
I didn't say he had. I'm just saying taking the arrow for Felicity, fighting and beating Deathbolt, the bees, his intentions, guy is very much on his way to being a hero. Like him or not, Ray may be a noob, but he's a good guy who has had heroic moments.
I like Ray. I think he'll do just fine on the spin off. I don't get the hate for him but to each their own. He's meant to be smart and fun. Not dark and broody. I'm not a fan of parts of the suit but they'll probably tweak it when the new show starts.
They do? Really? Do they speak for 95% of the fandom? So...you think that you CAN actually speak for over 90% of the fandom? Some entitlement you have girl ;)
Mac although I like that gif, this isn't war. It's a discussion between people. And Imma make jokes, because that's far more fun than treating this as a them vs. me thing and getting all pessimistic and angry over are fandom and in a war. And I'm too optimistic for that.
Or it's realizing they're not insulting me or anyone else, and merely giving an opinion of a character without being assholes. War isn't always needed here. And I take offended to that. France was invaded and didn't want to be slaughtered. And without them you guys might not have won independence from Britain. And they gave you that nice statute.
Aykroyd (Sorry, i couldn't help it). And was Jamie not hot or was she not hot? C'mon. She was so gorgeous back then. What was your favorite scene in the movie? Or just a few. And don't say Jamie's breast please. (rolls eyes).
Yeah...that's nooo. Again, that's not enough for her, or them, and there's a counter to everything you just said. LOL I'm not even kidding. But i'm not gonna go into it. If Koky wants to speak her part, she can do so. If not, you continue liking him and she'll continue hating him. shrugs.
Yeah, they were invaded but before that (like everyon) ignored and downplayed the threat and all of a sudden they rolled in like "Ya hate Ray too? Nah, doesen't matter, your a**es belong to us now" :P
A statue I've never had the pleasure to see with my own eyes yet
You also have New Orleans, and a bunch of other states (Louisiana Purchase 1803) You did far better during the War of Independence, and well Bush got to look like an idiot when he had fries renamed. Yeah you guys are like a not awful Ross and Rachel.
NO it is not "all shipping related" Don't listen to Mac, he loves to think that cuz it makes him feel better. The dislike for Ray is split. For a lot of reasons. But since we've already discussed over and over and over and over and over again why we dislike him for w/e reasons. No one cares to keep stating it. At this point everyone's accepted that some like him and majority hate him. That's it.
my mom's actually from Ponchatoula, apparently people there are REALLY proud of their french heritage despite the classic american nationalism. Kindof a weird culture.
Awww that's so sweet of you. You were thinking of me and i wasn't thinking of you at all. Oh darn. Now i feel bad. Shucks. Aww and so passionate losing breath. You want some water to wash that down?? I can at least provide water all that hating must make you so parched. Poor boy. There there.
I don't follow Arrow online that closely, just this site, so I only know what I see of Ray. I won't waste my time asking a legitimate question on one of these threads again.
Just this site? Then i'm wondering where you've been all year that you still have to ask that question. But someone will probably answer you in a nutshell. Whether the answer will make you feel better or worse, well idt it matters at this point since he's leaving in two episodes.
Ahhh, now i see. If it reminds you of your mom than i see the issue. LOL But then again if every pixie hair cut reminds you of your mom you may have another issue. lmaoooo Well i'm glad i have long hair. haha.
Okayyy. But i'm still waiting for your reaction/action. That needs to be addressed/confirmed by this week. (I'm talking about my bday wish) = )
I don't troll Arrow threads. I see links for spoiler photos and I click. I don't even watch the promo's. It was a legitimate question out of curiosity, regardless. So simple really.
I don't even want to be IN this thread. But i can't go anywhere else right now. Candice did an interview, that i can't read. (read a little bit didn't like it though). Can't go to TVD as the pics consists of Finale related spoilers. so i'm stuck here for 54 minutes til The Originals starts. smh
Ok i read the tv guide for tomorrow's episode and it sound very exciting! They revealed something that i didn't even think about! But my main question now is...they all know about Wells now. Even Eddie, do you think they'll be on high alert at every corner?? Do you think Eddie will tell Barry and Team Flash what Wells told him? Or do you think Eddie will keep it a secret and turn on Barry, and break it off with Iris? OR turn on Iris, yet still date her?
(Yes i realize those were multiple questions as i tend to do that when excited)
Ummm this site doesn't troll at all?? You get a few. But this site is very mature compared to others. But that doesn't mean fans on this site won't have disagreements. We actually have long talked out, extremely thorough discussions. On many subjects. It can go on for hours, days, or weeks. Sometimes months. So by you saying that you only "click photos", makes me think, that that means that you Choose not to interact with fans, b/c you think we're trolls, sooo if that is the case, (not saying it is) then your "legimate question" is moot. And should simply stay unanswered.
I only read a couple of questions from Candice's interview and I didn't the TV guide spoiler so don't tell me what it is. Rationally they should be on high alert and I think they will. Don't know why would he keep that a secret. Do you think he'll double cross them? Why? They already know Eobard is related to Eddie, do you think they will treat him differently? Why would Eddie turn on Barry? What did Barry do? I think he will keep dating Iris, not sure if he'll turn on her. Again what did she do?
I didn't mean THE TV Guide spoiler...i mean, i looked at my guide's info for tomorrow. lol Just to clairfy. Like i looked at my actual tv guide on my screen. lol.....Eddie's not meant to be a "good guy" (he never was) Wells will easily manipulate him and he'll easily turn on them. They JUST found out Eddie's connection, so that means nothing right now. I have no doubt that they'll probably look at him a little different. Or at the very least stay on their toes.
Ah OK lol I know he was always destined to be a bad guy; he's the Flash's Slade. But I need convincing reasons for him to turn on them that fast. This is the same guy who always has Joe's back.
Yeah the first episodes in with Ray I thought 'Oh oh.. creepy stalker dude who is fixated on Felicity'. As episodes past hes motives changed but I always and still do get a bit of a creepy stalkerish vibe sometimes. Cept when he is on the Flash.. then he loses it completely and is a different person!
Well there's reasons already, all he needs is his buttons pressed. Joe working with The Flash behind his back, when he should've been working with his actual partner, (betrayal) Iris having deep seated feelings for Barry, (fear) Barry revealing himself to be The Flash,( blow to Eddie's ego) Eddie finding out, almost ruining his relationship with Iris, (lies) Joe not giving Eddie his blessing w/o giving a reason,(secrets) Eddie being incredibly naive thinking Joe would b/c he's his partner, after the many arguments they just finished having.(stupidity on his part) Then his proposal gets terribly ruined by his grandson, (total embarrassment) whom will fill Eddie in on his "life gone wrong", thus leaving Eddie to make some umm.."tough choices." Eddie is an easy target.
I find him incredibly annoying. I also hate how much of a doormat he is Re: Felicity but that may change once the Arrow writers no longer have their hands on him.
Its an okay poster. ATOM symbol needs to be more visible on his helmet. Should I be worried about Barry? Also I hope they will darken his mask during action on his show.
There are several reasons people here on this forum hates Ray. Its not all about shipping like mac says. He just like to blame everything wrong with Arrow on shippers. But I do agree some of the depth of the hate is coming from shipping and unfair comparison to Oliver. My stand on Ray is I really like him as a character but I really don't like what they have done with him this season (if that make sense). I will try to list some reasons people have given here for not liking Ray on this forum.
1. Episode 1 and 2 where they gave Ray a stalking vibe especially when he bought the company Felicity worked in to force her to work with him. Ray was a goner with the fans from then on.
2. Episode 5. When Ray came uninvited to Felicity's home. This combined with earlier scenes strengthened the stalker argument. But for me this episode turned to like Ray as it felt to me he is an self absorbed absent minded genius.
3. Episode 7. Now in this episode Ray hate increased equally because of Ray and Felicity. And the kiss had nothing to do with it. The fact that he was working out half naked in the office and bribed Felicity with necklace and dress did not sit well with people. More than that Felicity acted very OOC and fickle with such gifts coupled with her nonchalance when Queen name was changed to Palmer technologies made people hate Ray and Ray/Felicity relationship even more. Personally for me as a Felicity fan I really disliked this episode because it painted her fickle and the romance was really badly done with the out of nowhere speech from Felicity and Oliver witnessing the kiss *rolls eyes*
4. Stalker thing aside since they used Ray for 16 episodes only with Felicity and no one else sometimes it feels like he belongs to another show and not Arrow. I agree with this a little bit more interaction with other characters would have improved the character a lot
5. Episode 17. Many people disliked everything about Ray's stand against Oliver and Felicity this episode. I thought it was a good stepping stone for Ray. But for some coupled with earlier dislike they hated him more after this.
Apart from the above you will see exaggerated (imo) reasons like Ray pinged Felicity's phone twice, he does not respect her or value her intelligence, he likes to throw his money around and is arrogant, Ray likes to control Felicity arguments running around. I personally don't see them as valid. Episode 19 has done a lot to endear Ray to the audience with his scenes with Oliver. But a lot of damage was done because of careless writing for this character.
I hope this answers your question. We the regulars in this forum (who does not have any life) has gone over all of this several times in depth without any resolution LOL. We all know where each other stand when it comes to Ray. Maybe that's why nobody answered you.
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I can't wait for Legends of Tomorrow. The ATOM has big potential and i am excited for him to have new storyline other than just being part of love triangle.
ReplyDeleteThe poster looks quite good. I don't have a bad remark, I'm surprised.
ReplyDeleteWTH ;)
ReplyDeleteJust go away already!
ReplyDeleteDon't judge! ;-) I'm really surprised as usually I'm very judgy towards posters and The ATOM.
ReplyDeleteOnly 2 more episodes i have to tolerate this guy!!Good times are coming!
ReplyDeleteWTF!?!
ReplyDeleteWhere is the customary Barry photobomb? XD
*gasps* where is Barry? Is he okay? I'm worried about him guys!
ReplyDeleteOnly two episodes and you will be gone, Palmer (and my blood pressure can go back to normal). Good riddance!!
Ray took to long getting into his suit. And Barry had to pee. I still see Pampers Palmer.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually more irritated thinking about the fact we have to force watch this crap character in the crossover episodes.Urgh!
ReplyDeleteMaybe Barry didn't want to be associated with this guy. His photobombing standards are higher than that lol
ReplyDeletePlz don't remind me. God, I don't think I ever hated a character, that's supposed to be a hero, that much.
ReplyDeleteWell ... Barry was really delighted with Ray wasnt he?
ReplyDeleteSo true!
ReplyDeleteBarry and Ray met? When was that? I never saw the episode to which you are referring!!
ReplyDeleteBahaha i just live for this Barry gif.
ReplyDeleteAt least they gave Laurel her poster before this guy. Here's hoping the spinoff being scheduled for midseason doesn't mean he's sticking around arrow in the beginning of season 4.
ReplyDeleteAll the Ray hate makes me laugh. I like him. And this is coming from a former Chuck fan who hated Brandon Routh's face in S3. (don't judge me, I used to be a crazy shipper once)
ReplyDeleteRay is a quirky character, full of positivity, a hero in development - and BR has played him well.
And this Oliver gif.
ReplyDeletehttp://38.media.tumblr.com/61d3c10283a949930948c00346b94d20/tumblr_inline_nn20y5d7lN1sgqo2z_500.gif
Oh the Ray hate on here, it's like...a delightfull dose of "How dare you hate [insert character] oh btw. [insert character] suxxxx"
ReplyDeleteFacepalm. Oh god.
ReplyDeleteAHHHHHHH!!!!! That makes me sooooooo mad!!!
ReplyDeleteYou know I love you but I'll have to facepalm back
ReplyDeleteBarry had to pee, sadly Barry junior got stuck in the zipper and no matter his speed, the pain always stays
ReplyDeleteThis was me. To this poster.
ReplyDeleteAnd this is me every time i see his face. I so love Barry and Oliver more for both their reactions. They speak for the fandom.
ReplyDeleteWORD!
ReplyDeleteRay looks badass.
ReplyDeleteIDC. And i've been looking for you!! Well not really b/c i was kinda gone this weekend, but still...i find you and it's on this?? Really?? = /
ReplyDeleteSupposed? He is one.
ReplyDeleteAh the infamous Daniel Shaw. I still remember the charah shippers saying they'll boycott after Chuck vs. the Mask. He was boring as a protagonist, and a terrible love interest, but loved him as a villain.
ReplyDeleteThat is a situation where "phasing" would certainly come in handy!
ReplyDeleteHmmm.. Assuming he can phase out of clothes? XD
She doesn't mean in the literal sense, she's talking about his journey in general. He's not a "Hero" yet.
ReplyDeleteI refer you my twin's comment :D
ReplyDelete*drop the mic*
ReplyDeleteTrue, but supposed just implies that he's not even a potential one. And no matter how anyone feels about Ray, he is.
ReplyDeleteWhy not? It makes sense that Arrow and Flash will be using parts of their early season episodes to set up the LOM launch, just as Arrow set up the Flash launch in 2013.
ReplyDeleteOkay I'll bite. Where's the punchline? :P :P
ReplyDeleteHe's has moments though. He may not be Barry, but guys doing not bad so far.
ReplyDeleteI really hope that they ditch the suit and transition Palmer to the actual abilities of The Atom when the new show gets rolling.
ReplyDeleteEh still sounds like it.
ReplyDeleteWell it's an Arrow related poster, so why wouldn't you find me ? :P
ReplyDeletebtw. worked my way from Delirious and Trading Places. Both were hilarious (albeit a tad dated)
Well if he shrank I could say he's not half the man Oliver is. But I do actually really like the guy.
ReplyDeleteYeah, says you...but that's not the case for everybody else. He has not earned that "hero" title. Not at all. Not in the eyes of others. That will probably start to happen when his show starts. Then they can probably start to say what you're saying.
ReplyDeleteLMAO!!! That was actually really funny. LOL
ReplyDeleteThe character of Ray Palmer isn't one I like much. In my opinion they mishandled him and I've never been able like him. So the sooner he leaves Arrow the better to me.
ReplyDeleteLooks like his shrinking abilities will manifest themselves on LOM, probably sooner rather than later.
ReplyDeleteI hope there is a "Justice League" (or pre "Justice League") type episode on one of the shows, or some epic three-show crossover. With the LOM premiere, there will be seven established costumed JLA'ers in the DC/CW universe, and at least five of them will be regular cast members on one of the three series.
I didn't say he had. I'm just saying taking the arrow for Felicity, fighting and beating Deathbolt, the bees, his intentions, guy is very much on his way to being a hero. Like him or not, Ray may be a noob, but he's a good guy who has had heroic moments.
ReplyDeleteYou`re trying to convince people that don't want to be convinced, your attempts in all honour but yachting created a lot of dislike for the guy
ReplyDeleteNot the poster smart ass, I meant the "less than grand" situation. I was hoping under better circumstances. Hahaha. But whatevs.
ReplyDeleteOh yay!!! I'm soo glad! Ohhh i'm so glad you loved Trading Places, that was my big "please like it. Please like it." = p
Don't worry, we always end up on opposing sides regarding Arrow, doesen't mean we can't have fun :P
ReplyDeleteI loved it, especially for the way Murphy and Akroyd worked together, they haven't worked together since, sadly...
Nooo you just took it that way. Again...When his show starts, people will see differently. Probably. Until then he hasn't earned it, in some's eyes.
ReplyDeleteThat's actualy my reaction to Oliver whenever he opens his mouth to talk about his love life
ReplyDeleteLol. Thanks.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shaking_head_breaking_bad.gif
ReplyDeleteOkay. Just stating my opinion. And pointing that Ray's not actually a bad guy. Not trying to win over Shannon and Koky. I won't, of course.
ReplyDeleteI like Ray. I think he'll do just fine on the spin off. I don't get the hate for him but to each their own. He's meant to be smart and fun. Not dark and broody.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of parts of the suit but they'll probably tweak it when the new show starts.
Oh, I get the hate. I disagree with the spark that ignited the flame though
ReplyDeleteI like Ray...I will watch LOM and may even drop the Arrow (tehehehe)...who knows....
ReplyDeleteDidn't say he has.
ReplyDeleteThey do? Really? Do they speak for 95% of the fandom? So...you think that you CAN actually speak for over 90% of the fandom? Some entitlement you have girl ;)
ReplyDeleteAnd the that sentence gives me so much joy. Thank you for sharing :P
ReplyDeleteyou're welcome
ReplyDeleteIs all of it shipping related? Cause I can see where bubbly and fun may get on some people's nerves but not to this extent.
ReplyDeleteMac although I like that gif, this isn't war. It's a discussion between people. And Imma make jokes, because that's far more fun than treating this as a them vs. me thing and getting all pessimistic and angry over are fandom and in a war. And I'm too optimistic for that.
ReplyDeleteGood one hahahahaha. It's funny because it's true lol
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised you guys actually liked it.
ReplyDeleteHissing the white flag and working with others to bash what you supposedly like is pretty much playing france in ww2
ReplyDeleteit's bashing Ray, that's nuff 4 em
ReplyDeleteDuh.
ReplyDeleteIf Bubbly and fun was the reason they`d utterly hate Felicity as well
Yw.
ReplyDeleteYou know me I always give credit when credit is due :D
ReplyDeleteOr it's realizing they're not insulting me or anyone else, and merely giving an opinion of a character without being assholes. War isn't always needed here. And I take offended to that. France was invaded and didn't want to be slaughtered. And without them you guys might not have won independence from Britain. And they gave you that nice statute.
ReplyDeleteI want a Rip Hunter and Hawkgurl poster too.
ReplyDeleteAykroyd (Sorry, i couldn't help it). And was Jamie not hot or was she not hot? C'mon. She was so gorgeous back then. What was your favorite scene in the movie? Or just a few. And don't say Jamie's breast please. (rolls eyes).
ReplyDeleteWell, ok then. Duh.
ReplyDeleteI should warn you that he's a history major. Proceed with caution because you won't win this one.
ReplyDeleteWell it isn't innacurate that during ww2 france ignored the threat the third reich proved to be and pretty much had to give in once they overran them.
ReplyDeleteI'm not getting in the middle of this I just wanted wanted you to be careful.
ReplyDeleteYeah...that's nooo. Again, that's not enough for her, or them, and there's a counter to everything you just said. LOL I'm not even kidding. But i'm not gonna go into it. If Koky wants to speak her part, she can do so. If not, you continue liking him and she'll continue hating him. shrugs.
ReplyDeleteThe giant price dropping scene!
ReplyDeleteAnd sadly nope, never considered any chick from a 80s flick hot. Especially the short haircut was a turn off
Koky doesn't want to. Koky is not in the mood to recite the "reasons why I hate Ray Palmer" list tonight.
ReplyDeleteYes because those moments weren't at all heroic. If Oliver and Barry did them people would be far praiseful of them. Whatever.
ReplyDeleteYeah, they were invaded but before that (like everyon) ignored and downplayed the threat and all of a sudden they rolled in like "Ya hate Ray too? Nah, doesen't matter, your a**es belong to us now" :P
ReplyDeleteA statue I've never had the pleasure to see with my own eyes yet
W/e.
ReplyDeleteokay.
ReplyDeleteEh America's thing with France is still weird.
ReplyDeleteI think the Legends of Tomorrow will be some kind of Justice League of sorts, but without saying the name...
ReplyDeleteIt's like an on-off hookup I guess, and thanks to france we have the ultimate redneck/french merging: cajuns
ReplyDelete"Your brother's having a heart attack." "F*ck him! This is an outrage. Turn those machines back on." Hahahaha
ReplyDeleteAnd wow. You can't look past a haircut? Seriously?? Speaking of!!! YOU ignored my last comment!! I'm mad at you.
You also have New Orleans, and a bunch of other states (Louisiana Purchase 1803) You did far better during the War of Independence, and well Bush got to look like an idiot when he had fries renamed. Yeah you guys are like a not awful Ross and Rachel.
ReplyDeleteWell i know his powers, then i actually visualized it, so it was funny.
ReplyDeleteWith your joke, now he knows how it felt when he put up that god forsaken Gif last week of Oliver. smh Just no.
ReplyDeleteGod that was awful.
ReplyDeleteNope, it's too 80s for me, reminds me of my mom rather some chick I'd drool over ^^
ReplyDeleteNot purposefully :( Sry
I know you probably won't watch the spin-off but I hope they use then nanites to create his shrinking.
ReplyDeleteNO it is not "all shipping related" Don't listen to Mac, he loves to think that cuz it makes him feel better. The dislike for Ray is split. For a lot of reasons. But since we've already discussed over and over and over and over and over again why we dislike him for w/e reasons. No one cares to keep stating it. At this point everyone's accepted that some like him and majority hate him. That's it.
ReplyDeletemy mom's actually from Ponchatoula, apparently people there are REALLY proud of their french heritage despite the classic american nationalism. Kindof a weird culture.
ReplyDelete"Dontcha touch ma freedahm frahs!"
they weren't at the photoshoot though
ReplyDeleteI'm certainly going to watch LoT, depends with Arrow. If it catches itself and keeps Merlyn I'm certainly not going to drop it
ReplyDeleteSounds cool. Lol freedom fries. Ah Bush.
ReplyDeleteIn both those moments, with those facial expressions, yes they did.
ReplyDeleteMore because they find him creepy and obnoxious and arrogant.
ReplyDeleteBut Mac if Oliver gets his balls cut off then how will the love of Malcolm and Oliver blossom into a beautiful flower or dove.
ReplyDeleteAwww that's so sweet of you. You were thinking of me and i wasn't thinking of you at all. Oh darn. Now i feel bad. Shucks. Aww and so passionate losing breath. You want some water to wash that down?? I can at least provide water all that hating must make you so parched. Poor boy. There there.
ReplyDeleteMooooooom :(
ReplyDeleteit won't blossom, Oliver will just have to do what he did on the island
ReplyDeleteNo! Their love must blossom. There cannot be a repeat of what happened to the love of Slade and Oliver.
ReplyDeleteGASP!!! You used the M word on me??? How dare you!!!!
ReplyDeleteWeren't they seen atop a rooftop in Canada? I thought they would've been included.
ReplyDeleteI don't follow Arrow online that closely, just this site, so I only know what I see of Ray.
ReplyDeleteI won't waste my time asking a legitimate question on one of these threads again.
Just this site? Then i'm wondering where you've been all year that you still have to ask that question. But someone will probably answer you in a nutshell. Whether the answer will make you feel better or worse, well idt it matters at this point since he's leaving in two episodes.
ReplyDeleteNo. Stop with the cross-promoting.
ReplyDeleteAhhh, now i see. If it reminds you of your mom than i see the issue. LOL But then again if every pixie hair cut reminds you of your mom you may have another issue. lmaoooo Well i'm glad i have long hair. haha.
ReplyDeleteOkayyy. But i'm still waiting for your reaction/action. That needs to be addressed/confirmed by this week. (I'm talking about my bday wish) = )
smh. Mac died a thousand deaths in my mind with that gif.
ReplyDeleteOn a happier note, happy Grodd day eve :D :D
ReplyDeleteWell my reaction might be seen in a webseries soon :P
ReplyDeleteOnly if you're directing it. And it's a one man show. lol
ReplyDeleteYou know i AM actually thinking about The Flash right now. Can we pleaseeeee talk about Flash. I'm so over this thread.
ReplyDeleteOf course we can. I was over that thread before it even started.
ReplyDeleteSo what do you want to talk about?
I don't troll Arrow threads. I see links for spoiler photos and I click.
ReplyDeleteI don't even watch the promo's. It was a legitimate question out of curiosity, regardless. So simple really.
I don't even want to be IN this thread. But i can't go anywhere else right now. Candice did an interview, that i can't read. (read a little bit didn't like it though). Can't go to TVD as the pics consists of Finale related spoilers. so i'm stuck here for 54 minutes til The Originals starts. smh
ReplyDeleteOk i read the tv guide for tomorrow's episode and it sound very exciting! They revealed something that i didn't even think about! But my main question now is...they all know about Wells now. Even Eddie, do you think they'll be on high alert at every corner?? Do you think Eddie will tell Barry and Team Flash what Wells told him? Or do you think Eddie will keep it a secret and turn on Barry, and break it off with Iris? OR turn on Iris, yet still date her?
(Yes i realize those were multiple questions as i tend to do that when excited)
Ummm this site doesn't troll at all?? You get a few. But this site is very mature compared to others. But that doesn't mean fans on this site won't have disagreements. We actually have long talked out, extremely thorough discussions. On many subjects. It can go on for hours, days, or weeks. Sometimes months. So by you saying that you only "click photos", makes me think, that that means that you Choose not to interact with fans, b/c you think we're trolls, sooo if that is the case, (not saying it is) then your "legimate question" is moot. And should simply stay unanswered.
ReplyDeleteI only read a couple of questions from Candice's interview and I didn't the TV guide spoiler so don't tell me what it is. Rationally they should be on high alert and I think they will. Don't know why would he keep that a secret. Do you think he'll double cross them? Why? They already know Eobard is related to Eddie, do you think they will treat him differently? Why would Eddie turn on Barry? What did Barry do? I think he will keep dating Iris, not sure if he'll turn on her. Again what did she do?
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean THE TV Guide spoiler...i mean, i looked at my guide's info for tomorrow. lol Just to clairfy. Like i looked at my actual tv guide on my screen. lol.....Eddie's not meant to be a "good guy" (he never was) Wells will easily manipulate him and he'll easily turn on them. They JUST found out Eddie's connection, so that means nothing right now. I have no doubt that they'll probably look at him a little different. Or at the very least stay on their toes.
ReplyDeleteAh OK lol
ReplyDeleteI know he was always destined to be a bad guy; he's the Flash's Slade. But I need convincing reasons for him to turn on them that fast. This is the same guy who always has Joe's back.
In Vancouver. That was filmed months later.
ReplyDeleteYeah the first episodes in with Ray I thought 'Oh oh.. creepy stalker dude who is fixated on Felicity'. As episodes past hes motives changed but I always and still do get a bit of a creepy stalkerish vibe sometimes. Cept when he is on the Flash.. then he loses it completely and is a different person!
ReplyDeleteWell there's reasons already, all he needs is his buttons pressed. Joe working with The Flash behind his back, when he should've been working with his actual partner, (betrayal) Iris having deep seated feelings for Barry, (fear) Barry revealing himself to be The Flash,( blow to Eddie's ego) Eddie finding out, almost ruining his relationship with Iris, (lies) Joe not giving Eddie his blessing w/o giving a reason,(secrets) Eddie being incredibly naive thinking Joe would b/c he's his partner, after the many arguments they just finished having.(stupidity on his part) Then his proposal gets terribly ruined by his grandson, (total embarrassment) whom will fill Eddie in on his "life gone wrong", thus leaving Eddie to make some umm.."tough choices." Eddie is an easy target.
ReplyDeleteI just hate the character.
ReplyDeleteI find him incredibly annoying. I also hate how much of a doormat he is Re: Felicity but that may change once the Arrow writers no longer have their hands on him.
Its an okay poster. ATOM symbol needs to be more visible on his helmet. Should I be worried about Barry? Also I hope they will darken his mask during action on his show.
ReplyDeleteThere are several reasons people here on this forum hates Ray. Its not all about shipping like mac says. He just like to blame everything wrong with Arrow on shippers. But I do agree some of the depth of the hate is coming from shipping and unfair comparison to Oliver. My stand on Ray is I really like him as a character but I really don't like what they have done with him this season (if that make sense). I will try to list some reasons people have given here for not liking Ray on this forum.
ReplyDelete1. Episode 1 and 2 where they gave Ray a stalking vibe especially when he bought the company Felicity worked in to force her to work with him. Ray was a goner with the fans from then on.
2. Episode 5. When Ray came uninvited to Felicity's home. This combined with earlier scenes strengthened the stalker argument. But for me this episode turned to like Ray as it felt to me he is an self absorbed absent minded genius.
3. Episode 7. Now in this episode Ray hate increased equally because of Ray and Felicity. And the kiss had nothing to do with it. The fact that he was working out half naked in the office and bribed Felicity with necklace and dress did not sit well with people. More than that Felicity acted very OOC and fickle with such gifts coupled with her nonchalance when Queen name was changed to Palmer technologies made people hate Ray and Ray/Felicity relationship even more. Personally for me as a Felicity fan I really disliked this episode because it painted her fickle and the romance was really badly done with the out of nowhere speech from Felicity and Oliver witnessing the kiss *rolls eyes*
4. Stalker thing aside since they used Ray for 16 episodes only with Felicity and no one else sometimes it feels like he belongs to another show and not Arrow. I agree with this a little bit more interaction with other characters would have improved the character a lot
5. Episode 17. Many people disliked everything about Ray's stand against Oliver and Felicity this episode. I thought it was a good stepping stone for Ray. But for some coupled with earlier dislike they hated him more after this.
Apart from the above you will see exaggerated (imo) reasons like Ray pinged Felicity's phone twice, he does not respect her or value her intelligence, he likes to throw his money around and is arrogant, Ray likes to control Felicity arguments running around. I personally don't see them as valid. Episode 19 has done a lot to endear Ray to the audience with his scenes with Oliver. But a lot of damage was done because of careless writing for this character.
I hope this answers your question. We the regulars in this forum (who does not have any life) has gone over all of this several times in depth without any resolution LOL. We all know where each other stand when it comes to Ray. Maybe that's why nobody answered you.
awesome rainbowed Ray.
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