Barry and Felicity are such besties. I love Cisco's reaction to the ATOM suit. The way Felicity and Ray says problem LOL. *Performance issues* LMAO. I love these crossovers. Poor Barry he is so conflicted.
He said they rewrote to correct the time line. My guess is it is for the next episode may be. In next wednesday Arrow episode Oliver and co will leave for Nanda Parbat. The very next Tuesday Joe and Cisco will visit Starling City when Oliver, Felicity and co are not there. So that kind of lines up.
So let me get this straight. All hell is breaking loose in Starling, Roy is in jail, Quentin is launching a war against Oliver and TA and they didn't think of deleting the scene with Felicity saying "I left Starling to get away from the mood and brood" No one thought that it would make her look insensitive and abandoning her friends and partners in their time of need. Meanwhile in CC Barry is spiraling, he knows he's working with the man who killed his mother and he doesn't know if he can trust anyone so the producers thought what's a better time than the present to make them go on a double date and take Barry with them as a fifth wheel, he's already in pain so might as well add emotional pain and make him uncomfortable.
Yeah because the way 3x17 ended makes total sense for them to be leaving town on vacation. Also since the timing was messed up, common sense dictates that they should reedit the episode.
That must be a manip Koky. Because no video posted here has that dialogue in it. That being said it is true that the time line is hinky here and we just have to accept they came to CC before all the drama started in Starling City and just enjoy this episode. If we go on being bothered by the time line screw up we as well not watch this episode.
I am not saying they didn't fuck up in this episode. I was speculating maybe the adjustment was done after shooting this episode so that the further episodes align up. We just have to accept this episode as an individual episode and don't think about it in the grand scheme of Arrow time line. What is done is done.
Yeah, the timeline doesn't make sense even if this aired before 3x18, since 3x18 picked up right where 3x17 left off. At best this ep should've come after 3x16.
Okay I might be biased, but does the way Felicity clings to Palmer seem kinda weird to anyone else on this scene? I should just wait until the episode. Looks awesome though.
So what you are not going to watch the episode. Cmon! The screw up was made by CW. We don't know how ep. 17 was supposed to end before everything turned upside down. May be it wouldn't have made sense even if the episodes aired properly. We just don't know. There is no point to go on worrying about the timeline in this episode when MG repeatedly said there is a time line issue in this one.
Honestly it wasn't the worst time. Plus the more interconnectivity the better. I'm so pumped for Firestorm, Al Sah-him and The Flash working together though. Different episode but still.
Nope this was all AK. He went to do the re-write because of the changing schedule and he produced this crap. He already has this crappy attitude towards Arrow. He went even so far to admit that they were developing a story for Flash but then they decided to save that one for Arrow because it was all angsty. Thanks a lot AK.
CW also should support these shows if the time line has to work straight. They are the main culprits here. If they go on rearranging scheduling to accomodate and support new shows things will always be hinky.
Okay. I saw that comment. Its not that bad as I feared. It's just Felicity being Felicity to pick Barry's mood up. My belief for this episode is this happens after Felicity and Ray makeup in ep. 17 and before the shoot out at the Mayor's office. I know it doesn't make sense. But I am going to accept that and enjoy this episode. It will be fun.
Yes, it's the second time she's done it, and both times he looks like he couldn't be less interested in her. The needy girlfriendness of it bugs a bit.
It was a little disgusting and not because I hate Ray or this "relationship" it's because it's stupid; they're not walking on the beach or strolling in the botanical gardens!!! When you do that in front of people (who Ray is meeting for the first time) while talking about something very serious there could be two possible explanations: 1. "look look, everybody, I have a boyfriend." 2. making someone jealous.
Woah okay, okay. I don't think she was going for jelly. I think it's more random clinginess to sell the romance. It does seem really out of place for the scene but I should wait for context.
Why on earth did he accept he did a re write if the scheduling and time line conflicts still persist? MG at least from the get go has been saying the time line will be screwed up this episode and he has stood fast on his comments.
I always disliked AK. IMO he is the one who screwed up Laurel's arc on Arrow in season 2 just like his stint in comics. Marc for all his trolling and ship baiting sounds more earnest to me.
I already do. When have I lately post a reply to one of your comments? you're the one always writing these annoying replies to my comments. You're welcome, bye!
The first time was quite alright in my opinion. He was once again amazed by her brilliance and was looking at how she solved the problem. And they were alone in the cabin.
" He was once again amazed by her brilliance " sure that's why he didn't believe her and said that condescending comment about how it's impossible that she did because he couldn't then wanted to check it our for himself.
I will never agree to you with that. Have you never felt amazed by a person who is able to solve a math problem way faster than you even when you know they are brilliant? I have. In my engineering college during labs we used to do same problems together and there will be some one smart who finishes in record time and we are surprised every time by their brilliance.
I didn't say it was bad but in light of what's happening in Starling it makes her sound insensitive and annoyed that her friend is going through a hell of a season!!
I think this visit just happened after 3x18 and before 3x19. We'll have to wait and see if they will make a 2-3 day time jump between the Arrow eps for this visit to happen.
Yes, I have. And when they tell me they've solved a problem that I can't figure out I don't reply with, "You only think you have because I've been trying to figure that out for over two weeks. I just want to make sure you did it right."
You can look at it which ever way you want. Either you can see it as she being insensitive or you can accept that this episode happens before the situation escalated there and she does not mean any insult to Oliver or what he is facing. I choose to accept the second option.
I am not going to change your opinion. So agree to disagree. I will say we guys used to be competitive during labs and used to look at each others work with disbelief. These kind of teasing happens between friends. At least my friends. LOL. :)
Yay!! Daredevil. *Clapping in glee* I can't watch it tomorrow. Birthday celebrations for little one. But day after tomorrow on wards I am going to binge watch it in 3 episode blocks. So cool.
Nope. I can't digest that Felicity would leave Starling City when Roy ends up in jail and Lance hunting Oliver.
I am going to believe this episode happens after Ray/Felicity makes up in episode 17 before the Mayor death scene. I will just believe Felicity decided to wear the same dress both those days even if it does not add up.
Honestly I am going to take this one as an independent episode as not much of what happens in Arrow will be discussed in this episode from the looks of it. It will be all about ATOM suit and Barry's suspicion on Wells and Eddie's constipated face.
Because of CW scheduling my brain has to think of this episode as a prequel to Arrow 3.18 when Felicity realizes she doesn't feel the same way about Ray as she does Oliver and as Ray feels about her.
She's introduced in New 52 as the version you pretty much see in the Arrowverse, but yah....she's a computer software CEO and Ronnie's step-mother when she was first created.
I'm just sick of Andrew trying to sell every relationship under the sun; he's worse than Marc. smh I'm even pretty sure he'll throw in a jealous Caitlin so we would have Westallen, Snowbarry, Barricity and Raylicity all in one episode, and maybe throw in an Olicity reference as well.
I'm not a fan of her being in the dark. But Laurel comparisons. I disagree with. She's far more likeable than season one Laurel, actually had chemistry with Barry, and isn't going through torn between the two of them stuff so far.
Oh its nowhere near the problem that they had with Laurel. The issue i am having is that the writers are using the same beats they used for Laurel in S1. And i cant unsee the comparison to the triangle we saw on Arrow to Iris/Barry/Eddie.
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Regardless of what characters show up where, I do enjoy how intertwined The Flash and Arrow are.
ReplyDeletethe cw is promoting the flash a lot recently! a producer preview that usually don't come until Monday
ReplyDeleteYaaay Barry and Felicity ! NO for Ray and Felicity holding him tight ! The upocoming episode looks definetly worth watching !
ReplyDeleteFelicity <3
ReplyDeleteBarry and Felicity are such besties. I love Cisco's reaction to the ATOM suit. The way Felicity and Ray says problem LOL. *Performance issues* LMAO. I love these crossovers. Poor Barry he is so conflicted.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the rewrite Kreisberg if you managed to screw up the Arrow timeline anyway.
ReplyDeleteHe said they rewrote to correct the time line. My guess is it is for the next episode may be. In next wednesday Arrow episode Oliver and co will leave for Nanda Parbat. The very next Tuesday Joe and Cisco will visit Starling City when Oliver, Felicity and co are not there. So that kind of lines up.
ReplyDeleteSo let me get this straight. All hell is breaking loose in Starling, Roy is in jail, Quentin is launching a war against Oliver and TA and they didn't think of deleting the scene with Felicity saying "I left Starling to get away from the mood and brood" No one thought that it would make her look insensitive and abandoning her friends and partners in their time of need. Meanwhile in CC Barry is spiraling, he knows he's working with the man who killed his mother and he doesn't know if he can trust anyone so the producers thought what's a better time than the present to make them go on a double date and take Barry with them as a fifth wheel, he's already in pain so might as well add emotional pain and make him uncomfortable.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Felicity saying that?
ReplyDeletebut if this take place before 3x18. When exactly did this visit take place? 3x18 starts after 3x17 ended.
ReplyDeleteI saw it in a gifset on Tumblr. Probably in the Canadian promo since it's the only one I haven't watched.
ReplyDeleteyou do realize this episode takes place before what happened on 1x18 of Arrow, yes?
ReplyDeleteI watched the canadian promo. I didn't see that. I am going to recheck.
ReplyDeleteYeah because the way 3x17 ended makes total sense for them to be leaving town on vacation. Also since the timing was messed up, common sense dictates that they should reedit the episode.
ReplyDeleteThat must be a manip Koky. Because no video posted here has that dialogue in it. That being said it is true that the time line is hinky here and we just have to accept they came to CC before all the drama started in Starling City and just enjoy this episode. If we go on being bothered by the time line screw up we as well not watch this episode.
ReplyDeleteI am not saying they didn't fuck up in this episode. I was speculating maybe the adjustment was done after shooting this episode so that the further episodes align up. We just have to accept this episode as an individual episode and don't think about it in the grand scheme of Arrow time line. What is done is done.
ReplyDeleteright, because they can on a whim spend hundreds of dollars to reedit due to a minor scheduling hiccup.
ReplyDeleteand also there would probably never be a good or convenient time to leave.
also, not really a vacation but a house call/repair.
Nope, this is just the last straw with these Eps.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Rab-HWORE
ReplyDeletethey were filming 3x17 & 1x18 at the same time they could have fix things.
ReplyDeleteI mean with Flash, not Arrow. Its really not that big of a deal and the fact that people are loosing their shit over is ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the timeline doesn't make sense even if this aired before 3x18, since 3x18 picked up right where 3x17 left off. At best this ep should've come after 3x16.
ReplyDeleteNo one is forcing you to reply to "ridiculous" comments.
ReplyDeleteThis is something they're going to have learn how to deal with if they're going to do crossovers across three different shows next season.
ReplyDeleteOkay I might be biased, but does the way Felicity clings to Palmer seem kinda weird to anyone else on this scene? I should just wait until the episode. Looks awesome though.
ReplyDeleteSo what you are not going to watch the episode. Cmon! The screw up was made by CW. We don't know how ep. 17 was supposed to end before everything turned upside down. May be it wouldn't have made sense even if the episodes aired properly. We just don't know. There is no point to go on worrying about the timeline in this episode when MG repeatedly said there is a time line issue in this one.
ReplyDeleteHonestly it wasn't the worst time. Plus the more interconnectivity the better. I'm so pumped for Firestorm, Al Sah-him and The Flash working together though. Different episode but still.
ReplyDeleteNope this was all AK. He went to do the re-write because of the changing schedule and he produced this crap. He already has this crappy attitude towards Arrow. He went even so far to admit that they were developing a story for Flash but then they decided to save that one for Arrow because it was all angsty. Thanks a lot AK.
ReplyDeleteand I wasn't replying to you and no one is forcing you likewise.
ReplyDeleteThis episode takes place before Arrow 1.18 so this was before the talk that Felicity and her mother had.
ReplyDelete................................
ReplyDeleteCW also should support these shows if the time line has to work straight. They are the main culprits here. If they go on rearranging scheduling to accomodate and support new shows things will always be hinky.
ReplyDeleteThis originally was my comment so any reply here is indirectly a reply to me.
ReplyDeleteTrue, lol?
ReplyDeleteMurmur
ReplyDeleteNot that, I just thought it seemed kinda out of place. Meh I'll get used to it.
ReplyDeleteoh good grief, I'll go back to avoiding you like I normally do then and you can do the same for me. thanks, bye!
ReplyDeleteDon't bother. It'll be over before too long.
ReplyDeleteIt did seem out of place and rather awkwardly clingy.
ReplyDeleteOkay. I saw that comment. Its not that bad as I feared. It's just Felicity being Felicity to pick Barry's mood up. My belief for this episode is this happens after Felicity and Ray makeup in ep. 17 and before the shoot out at the Mayor's office. I know it doesn't make sense. But I am going to accept that and enjoy this episode. It will be fun.
ReplyDeleteSee that's what I was getting at. Thank you for properly putting my sleep deprived thoughts to words.
ReplyDeleteYes, it's the second time she's done it, and both times he looks like he couldn't be less interested in her. The needy girlfriendness of it bugs a bit.
ReplyDeleteIt was a little disgusting and not because I hate Ray or this "relationship" it's because it's stupid; they're not walking on the beach or strolling in the botanical gardens!!! When you do that in front of people (who Ray is meeting for the first time) while talking about something very serious there could be two possible explanations: 1. "look look, everybody, I have a boyfriend." 2. making someone jealous.
ReplyDeleteit was the visual equivalent of "look, see , see I have a boyfriend, he is real and tall and super amazing!!"
ReplyDeleteWoah okay, okay. I don't think she was going for jelly. I think it's more random clinginess to sell the romance. It does seem really out of place for the scene but I should wait for context.
ReplyDeleteWhy on earth did he accept he did a re write if the scheduling and time line conflicts still persist? MG at least from the get go has been saying the time line will be screwed up this episode and he has stood fast on his comments.
ReplyDeleteI always disliked AK. IMO he is the one who screwed up Laurel's arc on Arrow in season 2 just like his stint in comics. Marc for all his trolling and ship baiting sounds more earnest to me.
I already do. When have I lately post a reply to one of your comments? you're the one always writing these annoying replies to my comments. You're welcome, bye!
ReplyDeleteThe first time was quite alright in my opinion. He was once again amazed by her brilliance and was looking at how she solved the problem. And they were alone in the cabin.
ReplyDeleteThis time it is a bit on the nose I agree.
He wasn't amazed by her brilliance, he was doubting she was brilliant enough to solve the issue before he did and do it correctly.
ReplyDelete" He was once again amazed by her brilliance " sure that's why he didn't believe her and said that condescending comment about how it's impossible that she did because he couldn't then wanted to check it our for himself.
ReplyDeleteI will never agree to you with that. Have you never felt amazed by a person who is able to solve a math problem way faster than you even when you know they are brilliant? I have. In my engineering college during labs we used to do same problems together and there will be some one smart who finishes in record time and we are surprised every time by their brilliance.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say it was bad but in light of what's happening in Starling it makes her sound insensitive and annoyed that her friend is going through a hell of a season!!
ReplyDeleteI think this visit just happened after 3x18 and before 3x19. We'll have to wait and see if they will make a 2-3 day time jump between the Arrow eps for this visit to happen.
ReplyDeleteLook at my comment to Ohlisa. Honestly I don't want to defend Ray anymore. No one will change their minds by what I say.
ReplyDeleteHe is fanboy. And thinks if everything is like the comics we will love it.
ReplyDeleteNope its before 3x18. Marc was clear on that.
ReplyDeleteYes, I have. And when they tell me they've solved a problem that I can't figure out I don't reply with, "You only think you have because I've been trying to figure that out for over two weeks. I just want to make sure you did it right."
ReplyDeleteThat's not amazement, that's douchebag behavior.
So she went to CC while Roy is in jail and Oliver is being hunted by the police and the league?
ReplyDeleteYou can look at it which ever way you want. Either you can see it as she being insensitive or you can accept that this episode happens before the situation escalated there and she does not mean any insult to Oliver or what he is facing. I choose to accept the second option.
ReplyDeletesure, sure, but thanks for all the laughs!
ReplyDeleteOkay but for the record you won't change your mind either.
ReplyDeleteI am not going to change your opinion. So agree to disagree. I will say we guys used to be competitive during labs and used to look at each others work with disbelief. These kind of teasing happens between friends. At least my friends. LOL. :)
ReplyDeletePretty much, it is very unlikely and would a bit degrade her character. But I don't see them making it work any other way.
ReplyDeleteIt can never be after 3x18. That means this lovey dovey stuff happens after the hospital awkwardness.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't make sense either way.
ReplyDeleteExactly. I didn't mean that as a negative thing. That was acceptance on my part LOL.
ReplyDeleteWow acceptance changed a lot hahaha
ReplyDeleteAnd Daredevil time tomorrow on Netflix will keep me company till next episode of Arrow.
ReplyDeleteLOL. We can only beat the same dead horse for so long. We feel what we feel. I shouldn't have even started this same argument again.
ReplyDeleteYay!! Daredevil. *Clapping in glee* I can't watch it tomorrow. Birthday celebrations for little one. But day after tomorrow on wards I am going to binge watch it in 3 episode blocks. So cool.
ReplyDeleteIt happens when there is a break between the episodes. They release the producer preview and one sneak peek during the week before.
ReplyDeletebecause it is a very good show :)
ReplyDeleteThe 4 promos wasnt enough lol?
ReplyDeleteCovering it up. Practically what all pre-break up couples do. *_*
ReplyDeletePromos was too much. But he was talking about producer's preview. We might get Arrow one tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteI dont even care. Just give me the Arrow episode.
ReplyDeleteNo one said it ever will.
ReplyDeleteNope. I can't digest that Felicity would leave Starling City when Roy ends up in jail and Lance hunting Oliver.
ReplyDeleteI am going to believe this episode happens after Ray/Felicity makes up in episode 17 before the Mayor death scene. I will just believe Felicity decided to wear the same dress both those days even if it does not add up.
Honestly I am going to take this one as an independent episode as not much of what happens in Arrow will be discussed in this episode from the looks of it. It will be all about ATOM suit and Barry's suspicion on Wells and Eddie's constipated face.
We Arrow fans are so needy. LOL. Is it possible to get the last 5 episodes of Arrow together. I want to binge watch.
ReplyDeleteI know it is awful. The best way is to look at it as an individual episode and enjoy the development. CW made quite the mess here.
ReplyDeleteI still like Ray Palmer, but I just wish he wasn't so cocky when he's suited up as The Atom. My only complaint about the character.
ReplyDeleteAnd I still long to see Felicity Smoak in the same scene with Ronnie Raymond, haha.
Exactly.
ReplyDeleteWhere did my reply go? I am excited for the Real Steel type of fighting by oliver too.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome sweetie :*
ReplyDeleteDo you think Gideon has the future season of Arrow?
ReplyDeleteI envy Gideon. She must have within her at least 3 or 4 different versions of future seasons of Arrow.
ReplyDeleteDoes Oliver smile in any of them? Does Dig have a big SL? Is Tommy alive? Is Malcolm dead?
ReplyDeleteAt least one time line would have our dream version wouldn't it?
ReplyDeletePalmer and Felicity are so cute!!!!!! please PLEASE get The Flash and Arrow in sync
ReplyDeleteI guess so.
ReplyDeletewhy? because he's an Amell?
ReplyDeleteThis is going to be adorable.
ReplyDeleteLol. I've never known that. Being a history major and all.
ReplyDeleteBecause it'd be funny. Someone has to notice the similarities.
ReplyDeleteFelicity Smoak was originally written as Ronnie Raymond's step-mother in the comics.
ReplyDeleteWell the first one has happened. And the others yeah probably (though Diggle got some really good focus in season one).
ReplyDeleteWait we can say now? Thought we have to censor the f word?
ReplyDeleteWell to fair Flash lore is cool.
ReplyDeleteThat's the timeline I'm going with. I do so want to see Eobard just be himself.
ReplyDeleteif we lucky we get one but I we probably get a comic preview first
ReplyDeleteA bit on the nose? No honey, it's up all IN the nose. Just right in there. LOL it's gross. Lol
ReplyDeleteLMAO!
ReplyDeleteLol!! Isn't she adorable? Smh = )
ReplyDeleteBecause of CW scheduling my brain has to think of this episode as a prequel to Arrow 3.18 when Felicity realizes she doesn't feel the same way about Ray as she does Oliver and as Ray feels about her.
ReplyDeleteShe's introduced in New 52 as the version you pretty much see in the Arrowverse, but yah....she's a computer software CEO and Ronnie's step-mother when she was first created.
ReplyDeleteHey babe :D
ReplyDeleteLol
ReplyDeleteMe or Felicity? Lol
ReplyDeleteWith AK you have to be careful because he will choose fancy toys from people instead of character development.
ReplyDeleteyou.
ReplyDeleteLol. Cmon.... Its a little cute.... Are you barfing now? ;)
ReplyDeleteRecently I realized that swearing does not get censored here. What fun!!!
ReplyDeleteWe used to have so much fun during our lab and projects. When you have this problem solving task you naturally become competitive but in a fun way.
ReplyDeleteI'm just sick of Andrew trying to sell every relationship under the sun; he's worse than Marc. smh I'm even pretty sure he'll throw in a jealous Caitlin so we would have Westallen, Snowbarry, Barricity and Raylicity all in one episode, and maybe throw in an Olicity reference as well.
ReplyDeleteStahp you're making me blush lol
ReplyDeleteHe's done well so far.
ReplyDeleteI dont know the way they are handling Iris is quite problematic for me. I get flashes of Laurel in S1. And i thought they learn their mistakes.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of her being in the dark. But Laurel comparisons. I disagree with. She's far more likeable than season one Laurel, actually had chemistry with Barry, and isn't going through torn between the two of them stuff so far.
ReplyDeleteITA.
ReplyDelete; )
ReplyDelete?? (can i talk now?)
ReplyDeleteNo!!
ReplyDeleteI don't care I'm going to talk :P and what does ITA mean?
ReplyDeleteI totally agree.
ReplyDeleteOh its nowhere near the problem that they had with Laurel. The issue i am having is that the writers are using the same beats they used for Laurel in S1. And i cant unsee the comparison to the triangle we saw on Arrow to Iris/Barry/Eddie.
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