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The Flash - Episode 1.18 - All Star Team Up - Canadian Promo

8 Apr 2015

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158 comments:

  1. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 22:57

    I love the Superman reference!!! :D "it's a bird... a plane"

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  2. Koky8 April 2015 at 22:59

    I'm one promo away from deciding to skip this episode :\

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  3. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 23:00

    why? it is not just about the bee girl.. sure it is a little about Eobard. again.

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  4. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:01

    But, you haven't seen it... I don't get it, seriously. He is her boyfriend after all... Maybe not being used as a simple love interest(forcing weird romantic comedy, per Arrow's writers) will be good for Ray.

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  5. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:01

    That's not it. They've shown too many promos for this episode I'm crossing the line between very excited and annoyed.

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  6. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:01

    It's not about Ray.

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  7. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:02

    Oh, i read the comment below! Yeah, i get what you say... The last promo from the upcomng episodes spoiled TOO MANY THINGS. I was really annoyed.

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  8. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:03

    IKR? I actually haven't watched this one; I need to be surprised about something when I watch the episode :\

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  9. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:04

    Why so anxious precious? I know the wait is quite the bitch but they need to promote the shit out of it.

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  10. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 23:04

    I see it.. but I am sure it will be awesome, just like the previous episodes :)

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  11. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:07

    Naaaa... Isn't spoilery. They literally spoiled Wells in the pipeline. What more damage can they made? It doesn't matter what he does, i know now that they will capture him at some point.


    That promo sucked ass...

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  12. Suha8 April 2015 at 23:08

    Was it so hard for the CW to keep its scheduling in check so the timelines weren't screwed up? They need to get their shit together. And where are the Arrow promos though. There's been a few Flash promos the last couple of days and not one Arrow trailer... Seems oddly unbalanced

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  13. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 23:09

    cause Flash is better than Arrow.. :D season 3 is a complete disaster... please, skip this Ra's Al Shithead storyline.. not skip, end it!

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  14. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:10

    Yeah but seriously we are getting like a new promo everyday. There's a difference between making people excited about the show and over promoting it. They are ruining the anticipation and the excitement you feel when you are waiting for a new spoiler. Now it's like "ah a new promo ok cool, I'll watch it later"; I actually rolled my eyes (even though it's not Canada's fault that there were 10 promos before).

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  15. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:11

    It's what I've been saying all week.

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  16. Ramon Leonardo8 April 2015 at 23:11

    So base on this promo I guess that Oliver's appearance n the League outfit is in another episode?

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  17. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 23:12

    Jesus!!!! is this true?? superman in season 2?

    http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/80719/20150406/the-flash-tv-series-spoilers.htm

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  18. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:12

    Actually someone suggested that it's Hannibal not Wells.

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  19. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:13

    I think that will happen around 1x22. But not confirmed.

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  20. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:13

    Oh... Okay, now i feel stupid LOL Thanks for that, Koky! xD

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  21. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:14

    For the info or for making you feel stupid? lol

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  22. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:15

    I was a bit thrown off that there is a new promo again but I understand this whole campaign. The ratings slipped a bit and they want the show to bounce back.
    And actually they are barely showing new material.

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  23. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:16

    I explain the lack of Arrow trailers that they would be to spoilery. Think the episode is pretty much straight and it would be to teasing.

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  24. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:18

    I saw that same news for April Fools on one site... Like the same thing xD

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  25. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:19

    Curious thing: Imbd shows Amell as guest starring in 1x20 and 1x23 of Flash... IMDB isn't a fire proof site, but perhaps...Who knows?

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  26. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:20

    Both... It's 50% truth and 50% sarcasm!

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  27. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:21

    Wonder why Hannibal would take on Eobard's appearance though? Escape? Or just to be a dick?

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  28. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:21

    In that case you're welcome and sorry haha

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  29. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:22

    Lol damn right you don't blame Canada.

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  30. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:22

    Why would he take anyone else's appearance at all?

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  31. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:23

    I wanted to make it very clear that I don't lol

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  32. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:24

    that's a good way to look at it!

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  33. maclives8 April 2015 at 23:25

    no Felicity, that's Iron Man

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  34. arrowshieldfan8 April 2015 at 23:27

    Arrow is the one who has lot of spoiler while the flash is a crossover.....

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  35. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:27

    To be a dick/troll. Hey of I was an asshole with shapeshiting it'd do it.

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  36. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:27

    Could Disney take DC to trial for that? I mean... It's super obvious Jajajaja They have no shame xD

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  37. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:27

    Don't know. When the spoilery pics came out they were supposed to shot 1x22.
    No clue about 1x20 didn't hear anything about it.

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  38. Koky8 April 2015 at 23:27

    So there's your answer.

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  39. Sila3s33938 April 2015 at 23:28

    they first wrote it at February, just sayin'... but think! think about it... Supergirl in 2015 Fall... a messy timeline in flash season 1 finale.. Superman could appear. Welling or not.

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  40. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:29

    I'd say he's more Blue Beattle Ted Kord.

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  41. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:30

    To a question I gave which contained the answer. Weird.

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  42. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:30

    We know that? I asked this again, but they don't release episode schedules like Arrow does. And being Amell there, they might played a bit with that using a moment Amell was free.
    I mean, that looks like a Season Finale battle if you ask me... but perhaps They capture Wells on 1x22 and in 1x23 Eobard comes to town. After all, we now know that Barry was with Eobard on his house...

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  43. arrowshieldfan8 April 2015 at 23:31

    considering Arrow end on a cliffhanger that shake up the show forever....the lack of promo is probably there is a lot of big stuff going on in the ep

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  44. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:31

    MIND. BLOWN. LOL.

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  45. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:31

    True, but the Great North must be needlessly defended. Jk jk.

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  46. arrowshieldfan8 April 2015 at 23:33

    arrow should be promoted more.....arrow drop below 1 recently

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  47. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:33

    Probably! I certainly hope so. Especially with Lance entering the layer.

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  48. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:33

    I'm a dc fan but not a Superman fan... He's boring for me, so idk. Supergirl is already a female Supes by the show's description. I don't see the point.

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  49. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:33

    I know, right?

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  50. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:35

    Na, Ted had a exo-suit that gave him strenght. He's shooting beams and flying... and Guggenheim is trying to make him have Tony's wit... and failing. He's still fun to watch when he's not used to be a simple love interest... wich was the whole season except 3x01 and 3x17.

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  51. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:35

    Don't know how much the timelines between Flarrow will be messed up during the finales. Will 1x22 happen before 3x23 or will 1x23 happen before 3x23? So we'll have to wait and see.
    I just know that the day they started working on the finale or at least when Danielle announced it we already knew about Oliver appearing in the LoA outfit. So who knows!

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  52. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:37

    I thought they will release one today, but seems like they are not planning to.

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  53. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:38

    I think i saw God and my life has a new meaning. I'll return later. Gonna look for some cool sect that sees the universe just like me, now that i read your heavenly words...


    (Well, that's the definition of trying too hard LOL...)

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  54. maclives8 April 2015 at 23:39

    doubt they care much, especially since it'd scratch their public image

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  55. maclives8 April 2015 at 23:41

    it's just natural that they promote their freshman show though, Arrow is in its third season, has outside popularity and a internet presence that is immense.


    Build on your strongest ship that an old fregatte

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  56. Nick8 April 2015 at 23:44

    You should watch 1x23 and the next day 3x23, but theCW messed up. Marc Guggenheim said on Tumblr that they designed both shows to go side by side.
    My guess? Kreisberg said there was gonna be a small cameo on Arrow from a Flash character. I think at the end of Arrow 3x21(Al-Saheem) Barry will ask Oliver for help, leading into Oliver's debut as Al-Saheem on the battlefield for 1x22 of Flash.
    Yet, we're gonna see Flash's 1x20, the next day Arrow's 3x21(Barry calls Oliver to go against Wells). The next week we will see Barry reaching for that resolution and calling Oliver while the next day we will see Oliver already went to CC in 3x22. Then the other week we will see the fight against Wells and Arrow's finale...


    It won't make sense at all if it plays out by that wich is quite possible since MG said on Twitter the timeline will be screwed up and we might have to just go with it... That it wasn't their call to f**ked it up.

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  57. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:45

    True, I agree. But still a little teaser promo would've been nice. But the day is still young. ;-)

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  58. maclives8 April 2015 at 23:46

    yeah, I actually wished Arrow got some more focus from the CW in terms of advertising. This years promo campaign was poor as hell.

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  59. Spindae28 April 2015 at 23:53

    Yeah it is quite poor. I hope they do a better job next year as the show certainly deserves much much better promotion.
    Even these last couple of eps deserved bigger focus.

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  60. Graydon8 April 2015 at 23:54

    Not God, Grodd. Sorry I had to do it. I'm glad I could help inspire your journey throughout the cosmos. :D

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  61. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:00

    Good point, I'm still wary of comparisons as personality wise they're really dissimilar. I'm really looking forward to 3x19 for that reason. Seeing Ray begin as a hero and fight a meta human will be great. I'm also pumped for him in the spin-off.

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  62. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:03

    Plus wouldn't help with the whole evil corporation thing.

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  63. O D A9 April 2015 at 00:19

    Also they have got another character who is played by Owain Yeoman who has same powers as superman. I forgot the characters name.

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  64. O D A9 April 2015 at 00:23

    Felicity darling your choice in boyfriends make me shake my head.

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  65. maclives9 April 2015 at 00:34

    Really, is there something I'm not getting? Is my inner belief that being nice and fun to girls actually wrong? It has worked well so far but if it pleases the ladies I'll start murdering bad guys with bow/arrow ASAP

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  66. Rjupiter9 April 2015 at 00:35

    just bring in Martin Manhunter, much more powerful and more interesting then Superman.

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  67. O D A9 April 2015 at 00:45

    Okay mac. You should stop this paranoia and stop judging people who states something you don't like. I am tired of you crying about what other people like or dislike. They are not you.

    I like Ray. I found his evolution on Arrow boring. I find Ray/Felicity very cute but their romamce very badly done. My comment above was about Felicity's perchance of falling for guys with hero fetish. I was mocking my own favorite character. If you have a problem with what I like feel free to ignore me.

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  68. Koky9 April 2015 at 00:46

    The episode can't be 42 mins of spoilers!

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  69. maclives9 April 2015 at 00:50

    See? The thing is I genuinely didn't get your comment

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  70. maclives9 April 2015 at 00:52

    come on, be honest here, hoe WAS your comment supposed to sound in any other way. I like you and won't ignore you but it's gotten really hard to understand if people are passive agressive or have a genuine dislike these days

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  71. Koky9 April 2015 at 00:54

    If you really want to improve your social life then you should disappear on an island for 5 years ASAP.

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  72. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:54

    I know, right? Is it the suit that turns her own?

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  73. maclives9 April 2015 at 00:55

    But...but....Slade won't like me :(

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  74. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:56

    Nope. But hey you get mortal enemies. And who doesn't want mortal enemies?

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  75. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:56

    I'd rather be struck by lightning and end up in a coma for nine months. Five years and mental trauma not my thing.

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  76. maclives9 April 2015 at 00:57

    Followed by immortal enemies like Ra's :P

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  77. O D A9 April 2015 at 00:58

    See even if I disliked Ray, which I do not and everyone here knows that, for whatever reason it may be why should it matter to you? I am not asking you to share my opinions. Why should it bother you?

    Honestly you are the one being passive aggressive towards real people over fictional characters and post baiting comments.

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  78. Graydon9 April 2015 at 00:58

    I feel sad for Ray. Dude's 'bout to get dumped.

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  79. O D A9 April 2015 at 00:59

    I see that. But your eagerness to jump down at anyone who does not agree with you is not something I like.

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  80. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:00

    The baiting is subconcious and not intended, maybe I'm polarizing by nature.


    However it does matter to me, I want to know what others think and it disturbs me when I fail to understand reasoning behind comments.


    And why not conversating? We're in a comment section anyway, wich is ment to have people share different opinions and discuss them.


    Why wouldn't it matter to me?

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  81. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:01

    Who offer you you're own shadow group with hundreds of followers, near unlimited resources and eternal youth. Who wouldn't want to get stranded on a island for five years?

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  82. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:02

    They have honestly made a mockery of Felicity by making her having feelings for 3 masked heroes. Oh how I wish her love interest this season was some nice executive or a detective.

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  83. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:03

    Pro: eternal life
    Con: no sex/food for 1 and suffering emotional and physical torture for 5 years

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  84. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:04

    I'm really cool with it. A) Cause it's funny. B) Speaks (well to me) to Felicity's inner humanity and attraction to morality. C) I hate the bad boy trope. Plus she's a hero and they tend to hook up a lot in the comics, so it's faithful. Lol.

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  85. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:04

    See conversing to know other people's pov and baiting is different. If you are not ever open to other people

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  86. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:04

    To be honest this relationship was never really about him it was always a reaction to Oliver being a stubborn idiot and by the way I don't believe he's over Anna either or at least he shouldn't be. The woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with died less than a year ago. He started this whole thing for her, realistically he shouldn't be over her this fast or telling a girl he's been dating for a month that he loves her. They are both on the rebound.

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  87. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:04

    Every hero she has a crush on eventually gets his own show, so that's a plus so we might have to get her to eye Diggle for our Diggle spin-off

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  88. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:06

    That'll never happen. But I'm for it. If it's called Black Driver. I know that sounds kinda f*cked, but I just love that line.

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  89. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:06

    Agreed.

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  90. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:07

    Dude he slept with Shadow. And she's flexible.

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  91. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:08

    Diggle spin off. Don't remind me. I had high hopes for Diggle centric SS mid season 8 episode limited series. DR also talked about it once. Will dating Felicity help that?

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  92. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:08

    He'll get a big role in four with H.I.V.E.

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  93. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:09

    Honestly Anna is like a unicorn. We are not even shown him looking at a picture or visiting a grave.

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  94. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:09

    I actually wanted Diggle to be Arrows version of Rick Flagg but since the Squad seems to have been erased out of Arrow history I'm afraid that won't happen :/

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  95. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:11

    Yes of course but when DR mentioned this last year in an interview I had high hopes for it. *sniff**sniff*

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  96. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:11

    :'(

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  97. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:12

    I can't really connect with his pain because they don't show it and they don't even talk about it. One episode he was telling Felicity that she doesn't have the right to talk about Anna and the next he's like "Anna who"?

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  98. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 01:18

    Well this is a CTV promo so it's not like the CW had any control over them airing something different.

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  99. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:18

    Wich is implying that I'm not open to others, however the issue isn't that I'm NOT open to others but the fact that existentially different opinions collide. I would love to jump around in circles with you and koky and hail the awesomeness that is Arrow but sadly we have such different opinions of things (wich believe me, I'm trying hard to understand but can't) that understanding is cut short in favor of getting points across.


    In case you see me as a troublemaker that only intendends to provoke you, you're mistaken. I'm appaled by people that care more about ships than shows and will always challenge them to actually reveal their real opinions to me. Not the sugar coated stuff because we are all hypocrites in our own right.

    Yeah, I'm a giant hypocrite myself, why? I fear that this show will suffer the fate oh-so-many shows have suffered. Shows I cared for, I'm not really a TV guy on the outside, I'm not openly creative. This place is kind of a place for me to vent because for some f***ed up reason I believe that I loose all my real life connections if I admit to being "a nerd". Thus I will always be very VERY hard in asking and trying to get to the core of things. Because I want to know what kind of person I'm dealing with. Because I don't want to waste time on themes that are obsolete in the end. This may not make sense to you but in short: I'm a closeted geek that rarely gets to talk to likeminded people and thus, in his nature, is a bit provocative.


    Believe me, if I wrote you or others off as people I have nothing in common with I'd ignore you (like Mr. I ship all Marvel characters, wich is all I care about) but I don't. Because in fact I feel that koky, shannon, you, graydon, buce share a very common attribute with me: appreciation for this show.


    If I come off as baiting, sarcastic or whatever...trust me I just want to get to the bottom of issues and opinions, wich is hard on the internet.


    For example: I've seen people disliking Ray but whenever I get reasons from people they're confusing me as the exact same attributes and listed reasons point towards another very well liked character.
    Believe me, I'm truthfully lost with some issues people have and thus try, REALLY hard to get them to tell me what exactly the issue is

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  100. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:21

    I keep guessing that they might want to keep Rays backstory for the spin-off, they need to keep some meat to chew on for a show in wich he'll have a even bigger focus.


    What is really confusing me about Ray is why the guy is credited as a recurring guest star. How often did he appear now? Certainly more than Det. Lance, Merlyn and I believe even more often than Thea. Could very well be credited as a regular as well

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  101. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 01:21

    Third season show that has more of less plateaued in it's ratings? Not worth the effort or the money from a business POV.

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  102. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:22

    The sad thing is that actors only get 30% of the whole story, they have their hopes and wishes, say things that are then misinterpreted.


    I was couting on the Suicide Squad and Deadshot to appear a lot more based on interviews they did last year but look what we got :/

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  103. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:24

    Unless you want to improve your stellar numbers, if you don't put the appropriate ammount of advertising in your product you'll risk loosing customers.


    Arrow dodged that bullet with the crossover episodes this season but I don't think there's any guarantee for that working beyond this year

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  104. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:25

    Yeah but they need some consistency. We knew more about Barry in 2 episode than we know about Ray in 18.


    His contract is for 16 episodes. Think of him like CL last season. She was in like what 20 episodes? She was still credited as recurring.

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  105. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:27

    Nananananana Black Driver


    I feel bad for David Ramsay because Diggle is so perfect to kill off. Think about it: showrunners like to tease potential deaths while having the fanbase speculate about "lesser" characters biting it. Diggle however isn't a lesser character, he's a main, he's important. However his importance has slipped over the seasons and now turned him (and even Roy for that matter) into a sidecharacter you could easily kill off to surprise people.


    HIVE is keeping me hopeful but ever since s2 I keep fearing that the next step Diggle makes might be his last

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  106. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:27

    It's funny how you only say nice things about me in conversations I'm not a part of lol (I'm guessing that was nice talk about me lol)

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  107. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:33

    He won't because of HIVE. Roy could, but given you could adapt several comic story lines and still do some stuff with him I doubt it.

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  108. O D A9 April 2015 at 01:38

    But mac you bringing the same issue over and over again won't make any of the people here give new explanations or make you understand their pov. Why beat the same dead horse over and over? You venting in your post is fine but when you repeatedly go and reply on posts who goes against your pov its just annoying. Tell me this how many shippers have you turned from talking about their ship by you having verbal volley with them? I would say zero.

    Just because you can't understand why people don't like Ray doesn't mean they don't have the right to dislike them. I like Ray. I don't love him. I don't find him creepy or stalkery. That's because I don't give much credence to the morality of characters on this show. I enjoy Ray for the romantic third leg pit stop with a cool suit that he is.

    That being said I understand what turns off some people from this character. The first two episodes of this season had him doing some questionable stuff especially him buying the company Felicity works for. As a woman I raised my eyebrows at that and wondered what the writers were smoking while writing him like that. They made Felicity herself make a stalking comment. For some people especially women certain things are a trigger even in fictional characters which they cannot gloss over. You don't have to understand that. You just have to respect it.

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  109. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:40

    No offense but I stopped talking after Clark Kent. Superman is my favourite superhero and any conversation that compares him to Ray I won't be reading.


    We knew Barry's mom died, his dad went to jail for her murder, he spent his whole life searching to prove the impossible, he was in love with a girl who doesn't reciprocate his feelings, he's smart, loves heroes, creative (Oliver's mask) and thinks outside the box (the rat poison and how he got the prints), nerd, always late, not afraid to stand up for what's right even if it could get him hurt, funny.. feel free to stop me anytime

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  110. Romen Nykolyn9 April 2015 at 01:42

    One more promo and I'm done with the show!

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  111. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:47

    oh I know that it's hard to bring people to a concensus about a project, however look at Arrows marketing campaign. It's fairly bland in it's design, doesen't represent the season and generally has little to no creativity behind it. It's contract work as you find it in any catalogue

    Actually, it pretty much IS catalogue work:

    http://www.shutterstock.com/de/pic-150465248/stock-photo-asphalt-road-leading-into-the-city-at-night.html?src=mg6vkNj3dqc2-yt4oEWLmA-1-10

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  112. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:48

    True, I actually didn't believe it because Ray was in that promo too. How a show can create such different viewpoints is both amazing and terrifying.

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  113. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 01:52

    That's not what I'm talking about.

    Scheduling that photoshoot, will be hell. Paying for it won't be a cakewalk either.

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  114. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:54

    I feel the same about Clark but I guess we have to agree to disagree on that because is some way I see Ray as a mixture between Clark/Bruce. The wealth and dramatic backstory of Bruce, the attitude and appreciation for life of Clark.


    Well detailed but if we really break it down:


    devestated by the loss of his wife, savior complex due to the feeling of helplessness, awareness of his own physical inability to help others thus the suit, tech savy, joy and appreciation for life wich results in his need to help others, very un-clever with his money, pursues what he wants in a nearly reckless manner for his own belongings and others privacy, good heart and soul


    I'll be honest, I kind of like the guy, not more than Merlyn because unlike Ray Merlyn is a well written character but I like him because (like Felicity) he brings some humor into this show


    I know you don't like him, wich I'm trying to understand but personally I feel like you might grow to enjoy him more once the spin-off gives him a better developed backstory :)

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  115. Graydon9 April 2015 at 01:55

    They did 3x09 and 3x10 or 3x11. It'll probably be a bigger deal in the spin-off. But Ray clearly has tried to, but can't fully move on so he's just suppressing it.

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  116. Koky9 April 2015 at 01:56

    Could be.

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  117. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:57

    we always have to count with DC intervening, it's sad really. I grew up on DC comics, shows and movies and knowing their strict handling of properties makes them seem less like the creative mess wich I always loved to see them as and more like a Wayne-esque company.


    I'm kinda hoping that the Marvel-show hype on Netflix gives us some neat DC shows on Netflix as well

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  118. maclives9 April 2015 at 01:59

    but this is where the beauty of continuity shoots comes in, every wardrobe departement makes continuity images of their actors in costume to have a reference for follow up scenes, these images could easily suffice for PR material

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  119. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:00

    I'll check on that one :)

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  120. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:00

    I had the same thing with Sara in season two. She was in every episode. It's probably a cost thing.

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  121. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:00

    now we know why Merlyn is a villain, he doesen't spend enough

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  122. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 02:00

    And that's would be your mistaken thinking this a free for all. These are union people working on union shows. Union issues probably come into play here.

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  123. Koky9 April 2015 at 02:01

    We knew all that in 2 episodes while Ray has been here for 18! Doing nothing but work on his suit, brag about his money and helicopters and giving Felicity the googly eyes.

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  124. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:01

    Actually I get it with Caity, she was "cheap" in some way, a relatively unknown actress. Unlike Routh who's probably the best known actor within the Arrow cast (correct me if I'm wrong)


    btw. ever seen Caitys older show Death Valley?

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  125. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:03

    I didn't even think about that, you're probably (very very likey) right on this.


    You've got to forgive my inexperience, I'm a low paid acting student that does very little (but fun work) for a smaller pr company. Unions aren't even on my plate yet :P

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  126. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:03

    I would love DC on next. They'd be serialized storytelling with high budget and ability to swear and show violence.

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  127. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:07

    And showing that he's selfless, compassionate, brave (yet foolish), arrogant, intelligent, determined, etc. we know a lot about the guy.

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  128. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:07

    Same, I love how DC has the darker line-up of characters. A show about Lobo would be amazing.


    I keep hoping for DC and Marvel to give Amalgam a second try as a movie/show universe.

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  129. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:08

    You're not wrong, but I doubt most people know his name. Nope.

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  130. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:08

    thanks ODA, I can't do more but promise to dial it back (wich is hard and I'm indeed trying).

    The beauty of this place is that opinions flush around on a constant basis, it's amazing and yet kinda overwhelming

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  131. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:10

    Probably, given that even today not many people can name Henry Cavill either (wich is weird, for some reason the Superman curse seems to be real)


    You've got to close that education gap Graydon, it's really a surprisingly funny show that parodized vampire/zombie/werewolf shows before these shows became a thing, it's like they traveled forward in time to get inspiration

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  132. Koky9 April 2015 at 02:12

    It's really unfair to the Flash how most of its threads eventually become about Arrow. Let's talk about the Flash a little! Do you think that's why they promote it more? Are we the reason behind these promos? lol

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  133. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 02:13

    Currently I'm the indie non-union thing too, so I get your mentality. When you said "small PR firm" I knew exactly what your experience in the matter was.
    But I know from my Union friends when it becomes a union job, there are rules. And the rules are "not my department!" and if it's not your department you don't touch it or union reps will be on your ass.

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  134. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:14

    Lobo would be sick. I love the main man.

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  135. arrowshieldfan9 April 2015 at 02:15

    Simple. The Flash=more popular character=more promotion! The CW is responsible for the marketing so they either spend a lot of money on the flash instead of arrow

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  136. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:18

    True I never even considered this, unions are going to be fun to deal with in the future I see :P

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  137. Koky9 April 2015 at 02:20

    In that case the CW is stupid! It should be the other way around. They're promoting an already popular character and ignoring the less known one!!

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  138. Koky9 April 2015 at 02:21

    Did you see the photo of the new set they're building for the finale?

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  139. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 02:21

    Speaking as someone who has been exploited quite a bit for being non-union, I know they have a certain value. But they can be pretty petty, stubborn, unreasonable and narrow minded too...

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  140. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:22

    Aren't usually all extra-gigs non-union?

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  141. arrowshieldfan9 April 2015 at 02:23

    yeah I saw the picture I submit it....it could be anything

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  142. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 02:24

    What do you mean "extra gigs"?

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  143. Koky9 April 2015 at 02:24

    I submitted it too. It felt like a court room to me.

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  144. maclives9 April 2015 at 02:26

    extras, you know, stand-ins, people that walk in the background to create the illusion of crowds ^^

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  145. arrowshieldfan9 April 2015 at 02:28

    I don't it a court room since they probably have one or two that can be used. I probably something new like the arrowcave or HIVE HQ

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  146. Folie-lex9 April 2015 at 02:34

    Oh that kind of extra!

    It depends on the production, and also the union rules vary from place to place. But I believe gerenaly that extra work is fairly flexible and lenient when it comes to one being non union.
    I know in Toronto for the very big union shows, there is an ACTRA quota you need to fill for your bg, and after that you can use non union people too.
    For smaller shows, I believe that yes you don't need to be an actual union member.


    But as I said it varies...

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  147. Nick9 April 2015 at 02:35

    You gave me some mayor Saint Seiya feels... Also, i was bored and actually looked for some cool cults. I found "The Cosmic Society of Jesus Christ", in Colombia: In level 1 they give you a Guardian Angel(i doesn't say if you have to level it up) and in level 5 you can become a powerfull warlock.


    Master Pablo is the one who teaches you.


    PS: This is all true LMFAO I'm having a blast reading the website.

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  148. Nick9 April 2015 at 02:37

    Yes, please! I was talking to Graydon about sects... Guess Arrow already has a steady audience and next year enters syndication. Flash, in the other hand, is having great ratings and they want to stay that way.

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  149. Graydon9 April 2015 at 02:47

    Damn and I thought Jedism being an actual legal religion in New Zealand was cool.

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  150. Nick9 April 2015 at 02:48

    You know, i tought of Ray telling Felicity he "loved her" after 5 weeks as a way to try to move on. It was too fast and i think he did that on purpose because he needs that.
    I need to think it's that and not that they did it because it was convinient(one episode he doesn't trust her and the next he loves her?).
    I was dying for an episode about Ray to know more about him on a personal level. The best we're gonna get is the Flash cross-over, in wich he doesn't need to be used as a reaction to a love triangle and can be his own person. Also, for what we saw, the CGI looked GREAT!

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  151. Ron9 April 2015 at 03:08

    If this episode doesnt get beyong 1.5 with all the promo its getting then CW, you are doing something bad.

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  152. Nick9 April 2015 at 03:09

    I like his character. I like Ray. My problem with him is that they used him for 16 episodes and 14 of them he was a "random reaction of a love triangle". They made Felicity go to him each time Oliver f**ked up. She wasn't with him because of "him", but because of Oliver.


    I get what they did it, but the only two episodes i was interested in Ray were 3x01 and 3x17, when we finally saw some depth and his flawed sense of justice.


    Then in 3x18 he went back to "love interest 101". They made the guy's identity be his relationship with Felicity instead on focusing on his character.


    I'm hopeful that on Flash, where Oliver isn't, he will have more freedom to shine. Also, 3x19 seems cool, but i fear it will have too many relationship drama(she has to break up with him).


    The CGI on The Flash promo looked great. I'm psyched for the Spin-Off, but i hoped for it to be a full Atom show and not a weird Team-Up show with a weird roster.


    This season was very character driven and very bleak on a personal level. Hopefully Season 4 is lighter and we could have fun again like S2.

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  153. ivan9 April 2015 at 04:24

    SUPERMAN REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  154. GermanShipper9 April 2015 at 07:32

    So this takes really place before the last episode of Arrow? Felicity broke up with him, right?

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  155. O D A9 April 2015 at 08:00

    You are most welcome mac.

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  156. O D A9 April 2015 at 08:07

    Exactly. I was thinking they will play a huge role in season 2 finale. I expected them to be on streets fighting mirakuru dudes. Instead it was a luke warm ARGUS stand off. It is very disappointing.

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  157. Pablo Troncoso9 April 2015 at 14:02

    Right. There is a chronology issue due to both shows not being on sync

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  158. GermanShipper9 April 2015 at 17:22

    I really wouldn't care if the schedule is just a week off, Flash and Arrow are still two separate shows, but with the crossover now it's a mess. And they had the chance to catch up as both shows were on break this week. Stupid.

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