not a bad choice, considering Gonzales unless he ends up being Hydra, which dies not seem as likeky. Even though, I see almost no difference between him and a Hydra leader at present. The differences are very finite.
Skye has a big fight scene on this episode too so i wonder who she fights. I wouldn't mind if she fought Gonzales but with her powers would be too easy. I can see May or Coulson killing him.
After watching the promo I think something like this will go down: Skye and Lincoln are sent to the carrier from where they are busted by Gordon and Raina who are following Jaying's orders. This is when someone from the team remembers about the tracker that they planted on Raina in episode 5 and so they find the Afterlife location, and Gonzalez sends his troops to capture or kill them while Coulson races there to save them.
I love the show so much but it would be nice that for a season they would pursue their own path instead of depending on the MCU(don't know if that's make any sence).
If anyone is supposed to be with SHIELD, it's Skye, she might always stay Skye for me, but being Daisy pretty much shows how big her part in SHIELD is going to be and stay. Hopefully, I still don't really feel like she's one of the Inhumans, not in that way. Look at how much ass she was kicking in last ep, showing what an amazing SHIELD agent she is, giving that up would be such a bad decision in so many ways.
That's been my personal theory since the moment they mentioned the death of his wife, maybe something that is now believed to be a Hydra hit. His hatred is very irrational.
But they are part of the MCU and unlike projects like Daredevil, SHIELD is too involved in world events to completely ignore that major events of the movies. I don't think it's a dependency, but a acknowledge coexistence. There definitely years in front of the Inhumans.
I don't think she needs to give that up. It's all about progression. She just got to know the inhumans side and If she feels the need to get away of SHIELD a little bit i don't see a problem. She can find her way back to them eventually but i don't think she will even leave SHIELD. I think since she is in a unique position as a agent she will try to advocate for the inhumans and initially that can put her in a difficult position. I imagine a lot of tension between humans and inhunmans. Since they changed her character from the comics and made her an inhuman they can take a few liberties and i feel like she will become some kind of embassador for the inhumans within SHIELD and try to work out both sides, but there will be struggles along the way. We are just starting the civil war storyline a lot of things will happen. I think she will always be a SHIELD agent but i hope she sides and defends the inhumans especially now that Gonzales will go full attack mode.
Yeah I know and don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of the MCU (might start to read the comics), anyway I think this is getting nowhere and that I should problably keep my mouth shut sorry.
I have a thought that she might end up "resigning" from Shield at the end of this season (if we end up with Inhuman's getting killed by Shield). And coming back next season with the increasing tensions regarding Gifted.
There's no good way to handle Gifted, for all the good that Skye can do/will do, you have her father whose most likely racked up a lot of deaths. Added to that Shield hasn't really had Gifted in positions within them, now they have to get used to it.
Her against Cal maybe, once he goes full Hyde? I mean otherwise maybe another Inhuman if she ends up getting blamed for what Gonzales is about to do? I think it's pretty clear that normal humans aren't going to be a major issue long term for her now.
I could definitely see that happening. Then again, I have no idea what Mockingbirds comic book storyline is. I know she eventually ends up as somewhat of an Avenger, though the pair up with Hawkeye I could go without. I actually kind of like Lance...though not sure about them together, since we really haven't seen it much.
There is and there always will be! You treat them like any other person! If gifted people are a thread then why don't we just arrest all SHIELD agents (including Coulson, May and the others), because after all, all hydra agents are in real SHIELD Agents that changed their allegiance. And hey why not arrest every single person on earth, after all we are all capable to kill people, beat people, rape and every single crime that is. Just because someone is different that doesn't make him a threat!!
Every single time someone is branded as different everybody assumes that he is dangerous!!!!!! Do i need to remind you of Japanese people in America during the WWII? Or the jewes, or every single time human being has branded someone as different!!!!!!
Gifted people are just like us! Some are bad, some are good, some will make mistakes and learn from them, some will hurt people, some will even probably try to destroy the earth, but branding every single gifted person like the bad one is like me branding you that you are as bad as Hitler!
Gifted people are like us, they are just as human as us and have the same faults and struggles like us, the only difference is that they have powers!!!!!!
And lets not forget about all the threads that are coming their way.
Let me ask you something. If Thanos or someone even more powerful shows up to destroy the Earth, who will you send?
I know the answer and it is not a single cop with 9 millimeter pistol, because even all the bullets on world would not harm him. You would send gifted people, because only they will be powerful enough to stop him.
Every single time i have heard gifted people are dangerous and the world is at stake they are the ones that saves it.
So don't say that there is not good way to handle gifted people.
Gifted people are just like us and will never should be branded as bad just because some of them.
And let's not forget what Captain America said: "Every time someone times to stop a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time. "
So let's summer it up for you. If you try to eliminate a threat before it becomes a threat, then you should just destroy the whole universe, starting up with the babies because we never know who will they turn out to be, at least by your standards.
By my standards we should live our lives making the best and trying to see who is bad without acting, because someone may look dangerous at first, but it may be just that look dangerous.
People need to understand being different doesn't mean dangerous.
with everything that happened this episode we didn't get to see that part. Fitz simmons were interogating Skye but they really don't know anything or we didn't see Skye telling them anything. She just showed up. I hope they don't rush those moments.
Yeah, and it made sense that she didn't with Ward on the plane. But yeah given the tensions that it's caused we deserve to see them finding out and talking about it. And I REALLY want a scene with Bobbi and Skye. It's clear from her interactions with Gonzales that Bobbi is on Skye's side.
Could be bu they teased us Mr hyde for the finale so i expect to be someone else on the 20. Mayb just shield agents under Gonzales orders attacking afterlife. Raina will get very manipulative so i expect some kind of confrotation with her to happen soon too.
Maybe I suppose since she will want to prevent killing them I'd bet then she'd have to take them in hand to hand. Again hope the team gets to see it. Or maybe on whatever break out that's happening on the Carrier?
We have been seeing her disagreeing with him since he invaded the base it's time she confronts him instead keeping her head down and obey him and that damn board. When it comes to enhanced people the board is basically Bobbi/May siding with Skye against the other 3 or 4 so they will lose. We also totally deserve to see a Bobbi Skye scene after she backing her up so many times. I expect the team to break next episode with Gonzales trying to make Skye a prisoner and going full attack on the inhumans. There is no way Coulson, May, Fitzsimmos, Bobbi, Hunter and even Mack will be on board with all of this. They will turn on him.
Yeah, I could see it playing out that way. Maybe as part of Bobbi dealing with Hunter as well, though maybe with the attack on Afterlife as well that might be too much happening in that episode...
The other issue is we don't have an idea on what size of the board is, we've seen another guy last night so who knows how things work on Other Shield's board.
Well, I expected it to be revealed with May's backstory but it ended up not happening. With effectively only 2 episodes left this season you chances are you'll get your wish of not seeing this revealed, so don't stress much about it! :)
I think it's Gonzales, Weaver, Calderon, that other guy we saw, Bobbi and May and we have seen except May and Bobbi they are all on board with extremely measures against power people so the voting system won't work.
So did I to be honest. "She's an agent!, They're smaller agents!" and "anti Nat", it was a nice bit, though I spent the rest of the time assuming he was going to die...
Hahaha that would have been rough. I'd kind of heard about the other death, so I wasn't too worried about him. Took a bit of that worry away... Though [comic spoiler alert] I just read that his family dies in the comics, and now I'm worried about that!
That was the thing, I knew the comic book side and as soon as the were on screen I was thinking "Oh Crap", I hadn't even heard of the other death given we got it last week and I avoided the spoilers. I just felt the whole family, baby on the way...
Think thefamily is safe, depends on who shows up in Cap 3....
Yeaa, I really hope Marvel doesn't kill the kids off. Or the Mom, I love that actress (Lisa Cardellini I think?). I'm kind of stressed for Cap 3, but given that Chris Evans is telling people he's filming the next Avengers, I at least feel like he'll live through that one. Now we just need confirmation that Hawkeye and his family are filming...
I think there's been some comments that the orignal won't be in the first Avengers's (3) but who knows, but yeah Given the name call, I doubt they would harm the family. At worst they won't mention them agian...
Yea, they can just live offscreen. Ive heard that too. Part One is supposed to be for the new Avengers, and then everyone regroups in Part Two. Heard Hulk is missing for 1...
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OH GOD, I'M NOT READY FOR THIS. HELP.
ReplyDeleteSo excited!
Here we go! SHIELD's first encounter with the Inhumans. Shit's about to hit the fan next week.
ReplyDeletePhil Coulson do NOT betray Skye!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo matter how this ends, judging from this Skye is going to end up walking away from Shield in the Finale.
ReplyDeleteBad job Skye! You should of just told them you were safe and left with Gordon. Not bring no one, unless its just Coulson and Fitz.
ReplyDeleteSo, I guess it's official, Theta Protocol=Avengers Academy.
ReplyDeleteIt's about time all the fractions currently at play interact!
ReplyDeletenot a bad choice, considering Gonzales unless he ends up being Hydra, which dies not seem as likeky. Even though, I see almost no difference between him and a Hydra leader at present. The differences are very finite.
ReplyDeleteNot necessarily. I think Coulson and the team will side with Skye and the Inhumans.
ReplyDeletepretty sure Gonzales doesn't even make to the finale so whatever happens to him happens in episode 20 scars
ReplyDeleteI always said it. I don't like the way SHIELD treats people with abilities!!!!
ReplyDeleteLast episode the show initiated Age of Ultron and I think now it will set up Civil War.
ReplyDeletemaybe the last scene with Steve and Natasha in Ultron?
ReplyDeleteit IS the next MCU movie
ReplyDeleteYeah, the next season might be very uncomfortable for Skye.
ReplyDeleteNow let's hope Gonzales doesn't go all killing spree with the inhumans. Gonzales is unberable.
ReplyDeleteSkye has a big fight scene on this episode too so i wonder who she fights. I wouldn't mind if she fought Gonzales but with her powers would be too easy. I can see May or Coulson killing him.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't mind if she did. Raina will start causing troubles with her mom so would be nice if she stayed with them.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching the promo I think something like this will go down: Skye and Lincoln are sent to the carrier from where they are busted by Gordon and Raina who are following Jaying's orders. This is when someone from the team remembers about the tracker that they planted on Raina in episode 5 and so they find the Afterlife location, and Gonzalez sends his troops to capture or kill them while Coulson races there to save them.
ReplyDeleteWell to be nitpicky ant man is actually the next mcu movie
ReplyDeleteActually I think that it was for something else. Something Fury suddenly turned up with in Age of Ultron, if you get my drift....
ReplyDeleteI love the show so much but it would be nice that for a season they would pursue their own path instead of depending on the MCU(don't know if that's make any sence).
ReplyDeleteoh god, it seems like May will fly the attack on Afterlife
ReplyDeleteCan someone tell me what the best time (after which Agents of Shield ep)it is to watch the new Avengers movie?
ReplyDeleteYeah i think that too.
ReplyDeleteRight after this one, last night's ep was the prologue for Avengers Ultron.
ReplyDeleteWith any luck, Coulson, May and the rest of the team sneak on to the mission in order to help save Afterlife...
ReplyDeleteI need so much more information about this episode. Cannot wait to see how this plays out!
ReplyDeleteFitz and Simmons need to side with Skye! Really, the entire team needs to get behind her.
Thank you, guess I know now which movie I am going to see next =)
ReplyDeleteMmmmmm...two minute commercial for a 30 second promo that's all glitched up.
ReplyDeleteSimon Kassianides wasn't even listed as a guest for the last 2 episodes that aired, I don't think this holds that much weight.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone is supposed to be with SHIELD, it's Skye, she might always stay Skye for me, but being Daisy pretty much shows how big her part in SHIELD is going to be and stay. Hopefully, I still don't really feel like she's one of the Inhumans, not in that way. Look at how much ass she was kicking in last ep, showing what an amazing SHIELD agent she is, giving that up would be such a bad decision in so many ways.
ReplyDeleteIn surprised that no ones said it before: Maybe Gonzales ' wife was killed by an "enhanced" person. It certainly explains his obsession with them
ReplyDeleteThat's been my personal theory since the moment they mentioned the death of his wife, maybe something that is now believed to be a Hydra hit. His hatred is very irrational.
ReplyDeleteBut they are part of the MCU and unlike projects like Daredevil, SHIELD is too involved in world events to completely ignore that major events of the movies. I don't think it's a dependency, but a acknowledge coexistence. There definitely years in front of the Inhumans.
ReplyDeleteI don't think she needs to give that up. It's all about progression. She just got to know the inhumans side and If she feels the need to get away of SHIELD a little bit i don't see a problem. She can find her way back to them eventually but i don't think she will even leave SHIELD. I think since she is in a unique position as a agent she will try to advocate for the inhumans and initially that can put her in a difficult position. I imagine a lot of tension between humans and inhunmans. Since they changed her character from the comics and made her an inhuman they can take a few liberties and i feel like she will become some kind of embassador for the inhumans within SHIELD and try to work out both sides, but there will be struggles along the way. We are just starting the civil war storyline a lot of things will happen. I think she will always be a SHIELD agent but i hope she sides and defends the inhumans especially now that Gonzales will go full attack mode.
ReplyDeleteYeah I know and don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of the MCU (might start to read the comics), anyway I think this is getting nowhere and that I should problably keep my mouth shut sorry.
ReplyDeleteHell given Bobbi's reaction to Gonzales comments I think even she will be on Skye's side.
ReplyDeleteThis is certainly going to lead to Skye having issues with Shield.
ReplyDeleteI have a thought that she might end up "resigning" from Shield at the end of this season (if we end up with Inhuman's getting killed by Shield). And coming back next season with the increasing tensions regarding Gifted.
ReplyDeleteThere's no good way to handle Gifted, for all the good that Skye can do/will do, you have her father whose most likely racked up a lot of deaths. Added to that Shield hasn't really had Gifted in positions within them, now they have to get used to it.
ReplyDeleteOh yea. Especially since going after the Inhumans is literally equivalent to attacking her mother.
ReplyDeleteHer against Cal maybe, once he goes full Hyde? I mean otherwise maybe another Inhuman if she ends up getting blamed for what Gonzales is about to do? I think it's pretty clear that normal humans aren't going to be a major issue long term for her now.
ReplyDeleteThat would be so very ideal. Would make sense too, considering the spinoff plans.
ReplyDeleteYeah, can't wait to see their reaction if she tells them she's still alive.
ReplyDeleteTrue, she breaks from Gonzales because of his policy on Gifted, while not staying with Shield because of the secrets.
ReplyDeleteOh yea! Forgot that they still don't know. Can't wait for that reveal!
ReplyDeleteI could definitely see that happening. Then again, I have no idea what Mockingbirds comic book storyline is. I know she eventually ends up as somewhat of an Avenger, though the pair up with Hawkeye I could go without. I actually kind of like Lance...though not sure about them together, since we really haven't seen it much.
ReplyDeleteWell, AoU has cleared up Hawkeye's availabilty so that's not a risk for Lance.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching tomorrow night, I figure I'll know what you mean by that after?
ReplyDeleteYeah, wasn't sure if you'd seen it yet, you'll enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait, it seems like it's getting nearly universal good reviews. (At least from the sources I've read/people I've talked to.)
ReplyDeleteI have no doubt papa Coulson's gonna be on Skye's side. Damn, this Gonzales guy's a zealot!
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'd say it's certainly up there, I think TWS might still edge it but it's still up there.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I really want to see the team react to everything Skye has learned.
ReplyDeleteThere is and there always will be! You treat them like any other person! If gifted people are a thread then why don't we just arrest all SHIELD agents (including Coulson, May and the others), because after all, all hydra agents are in real SHIELD Agents that changed their allegiance.
ReplyDeleteAnd hey why not arrest every single person on earth, after all we are all capable to kill people, beat people, rape and every single crime that is.
Just because someone is different that doesn't make him a threat!!
Every single time someone is branded as different everybody assumes that he is dangerous!!!!!!
Do i need to remind you of Japanese people in America during the WWII? Or the jewes, or every single time human being has branded someone as different!!!!!!
Gifted people are just like us! Some are bad, some are good, some will make mistakes and learn from them, some will hurt people, some will even probably try to destroy the earth, but branding every single gifted person like the bad one is like me branding you that you are as bad as Hitler!
Gifted people are like us, they are just as human as us and have the same faults and struggles like us, the only difference is that they have powers!!!!!!
And lets not forget about all the threads that are coming their way.
Let me ask you something. If Thanos or someone even more powerful shows up to destroy the Earth, who will you send?
I know the answer and it is not a single cop with 9 millimeter pistol, because even all the bullets on world would not harm him. You would send gifted people, because only they will be powerful enough to stop him.
Every single time i have heard gifted people are dangerous and the world is at stake they are the ones that saves it.
So don't say that there is not good way to handle gifted people.
Gifted people are just like us and will never should be branded as bad just because some of them.
And let's not forget what Captain America said:
"Every time someone times to stop a war before it starts, innocent people die. Every time.
"
So let's summer it up for you. If you try to eliminate a threat before it becomes a threat, then you should just destroy the whole universe, starting up with the babies because we never know who will they turn out to be, at least by your standards.
By my standards we should live our lives making the best and trying to see who is bad without acting, because someone may look dangerous at first, but it may be just that look dangerous.
People need to understand being different doesn't mean dangerous.
with everything that happened this episode we didn't get to see that part. Fitz simmons were interogating Skye but they really don't know anything or we didn't see Skye telling them anything. She just showed up. I hope they don't rush those moments.
ReplyDeleteI agree. This will basically be the forced driving the storyline futher on the last few episode and season 3 so i'm excited.
ReplyDeleteYeah, and it made sense that she didn't with Ward on the plane. But yeah given the tensions that it's caused we deserve to see them finding out and talking about it. And I REALLY want a scene with Bobbi and Skye. It's clear from her interactions with Gonzales that Bobbi is on Skye's side.
ReplyDeleteCould be bu they teased us Mr hyde for the finale so i expect to be someone else on the 20. Mayb just shield agents under Gonzales orders attacking afterlife. Raina will get very manipulative so i expect some kind of confrotation with her to happen soon too.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I suppose since she will want to prevent killing them I'd bet then she'd have to take them in hand to hand. Again hope the team gets to see it. Or maybe on whatever break out that's happening on the Carrier?
ReplyDeleteWe have been seeing her disagreeing with him since he invaded the base it's time she confronts him instead keeping her head down and obey him and that damn board. When it comes to enhanced people the board is basically Bobbi/May siding with Skye against the other 3 or 4 so they will lose. We also totally deserve to see a Bobbi Skye scene after she backing her up so many times. I expect the team to break next episode with Gonzales trying to make Skye a prisoner and going full attack on the inhumans. There is no way Coulson, May, Fitzsimmos, Bobbi, Hunter and even Mack will be on board with all of this. They will turn on him.
ReplyDeleteUgh, that would be such a simplistic, cliche reveal.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I could see it playing out that way. Maybe as part of Bobbi dealing with Hunter as well, though maybe with the attack on Afterlife as well that might be too much happening in that episode...
ReplyDeleteThe other issue is we don't have an idea on what size of the board is, we've seen another guy last night so who knows how things work on Other Shield's board.
TWS is my favorite, so I'm okay with that assessment. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteWell, I expected it to be revealed with May's backstory but it ended up not happening. With effectively only 2 episodes left this season you chances are you'll get your wish of not seeing this revealed, so don't stress much about it! :)
ReplyDeleteAnyone else think Whitehall is still alive and that's who Cal goes all Hyde on?
ReplyDeletewe all know Robert Gonzales starts this silly war and we will soon see skye pick a side
ReplyDeleteah true i forget about that my bad
ReplyDeleteAnything is possible on MCU. Coulson and Jiaying are the perfect example.
ReplyDeleteI think it's Gonzales, Weaver, Calderon, that other guy we saw, Bobbi and May and we have seen except May and Bobbi they are all on board with extremely measures against power people so the voting system won't work.
ReplyDeleteoh my bad LOL completely forgot
ReplyDeleteI think it's just "the call" for the Avengers.
ReplyDeleteDug a bit to come back here, but you were spot on. I actually loved that bit of Hawkeye backstory!
ReplyDeleteSo did I to be honest. "She's an agent!, They're smaller agents!" and "anti Nat", it was a nice bit, though I spent the rest of the time assuming he was going to die...
ReplyDeleteHahaha that would have been rough. I'd kind of heard about the other death, so I wasn't too worried about him. Took a bit of that worry away... Though [comic spoiler alert] I just read that his family dies in the comics, and now I'm worried about that!
ReplyDeleteThat was the thing, I knew the comic book side and as soon as the were on screen I was thinking "Oh Crap", I hadn't even heard of the other death given we got it last week and I avoided the spoilers. I just felt the whole family, baby on the way...
ReplyDeleteThink thefamily is safe, depends on who shows up in Cap 3....
Yeaa, I really hope Marvel doesn't kill the kids off. Or the Mom, I love that actress (Lisa Cardellini I think?). I'm kind of stressed for Cap 3, but given that Chris Evans is telling people he's filming the next Avengers, I at least feel like he'll live through that one. Now we just need confirmation that Hawkeye and his family are filming...
ReplyDeleteI think there's been some comments that the orignal won't be in the first Avengers's (3) but who knows, but yeah Given the name call, I doubt they would harm the family. At worst they won't mention them agian...
ReplyDeleteYea, they can just live offscreen. Ive heard that too. Part One is supposed to be for the new Avengers, and then everyone regroups in Part Two. Heard Hulk is missing for 1...
ReplyDeleteWhich would kind of make sense as to how it ended (Even the Hulk should be afraid of the BW after leaving I'd bet)...
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