Surprise! @mister_CMS is here at #WonderCon! But no @donallogue 😒. pic.twitter.com/PeV1a91LDU
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015Always at the ready! @ben_mckenzie at #WonderCon #gotham pic.twitter.com/ZqblF6JcbD
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015"If Gordon would've thanked me once maybe I wouldn't go bad." .@mister_CMS
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015.@ben_mckenzie "the wife beater shirt I wear at the Gcpd I carried over from The OC."
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015"I'm gonna have to earn the mustache." .@ben_mckenzie #WonderCon #gotham
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015Producer John Stephens: "Season 2 will explore (a bit) of the "Jerome" story." #WonderCon #gotham
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015Producer John Stephens: "Season 2 will see the emergence of the character billionaire Bruce Wayne." #WonderCon #gotham
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015Producer John Stephens: "We will meet Clayface and The Mad Hatter." #WonderCon #Gotham
— Gotham (@Gotham) April 4, 2015
So this confirms that Cameron Monagham IS The Joker. Good, i like him.
ReplyDeleteI stoped at 1x16 i think. Must catch up, but the show is way too much procedural. Maybe Season 2 will use better the comicbook lore.
Jada Pinkett who plays Fish Mooney says she is not coming back for season 2.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the graphic is missing the buttler and legal guardian of Master Bruce
You mean Alfred Pennyworth.
ReplyDeleteawesome!!! but what does " emergence of the character billionaire Bruce Wayne" mean? he's already a billionaire
ReplyDeleteExactly. Will he gets richer?
ReplyDeleteI think they meant DC's Bruce Wayne.
ReplyDeleteWill they make a timeskip?
ReplyDeleteFor this, they need a timeskip. I mean, he's a child, and he didn't turn a stupid playboy until he was older.
ReplyDeleteThey said "emergence" not "turning into"
ReplyDeleteNot a fan of their Joker origin personally. I prefer the Killing Joke.
ReplyDeleteHe was never stupid. But the facade will probably start. Or he'll start his decade or so sojourn.
ReplyDeleteYes, I mean the facade.
ReplyDeleteIt would be cool to see, but I wish they eventually put focus on his decade or so journey around the globe to become Batman.
ReplyDeletewell it's not like we saw how he became psychotic, he was already a psycho and sociopathic, geez his laugh still creeps me out
ReplyDeletehe's still 12
ReplyDeleteoh ok, but i hate the playboy story, I still want him to be a badass 12 year-old
ReplyDeleteSo "Jerome" is indeed Gotham's Joker?
ReplyDeleteJust another reason why I won't watch Gotham then, lol.
That's the problem he's implied to just be a psychopath or be the product of a broken home. But that takes away the mystery and what made the Joker's origin so fantastic. There isn't a definitive one. He doesn't even have a true name. The closest their was to an origin story was The Killing Joke. Which gave a possible origin as being a husband and soon to be father, and former chemist turned failed comedian who in an effort to provide for his family became The Red Hood and broke into Ace Chemicals. But all it took was one bad day, and he lost everything, his sanity, his family, and was deformed. Becoming The Joker a twisted psychopathic killer, who sees life as a sick joke. An origin that gave him a connection to Batman, as the Dark Knight unknowingly caused the accident that finally turned him into the Joker by being there that day and confronting him above that vat of chemicals. Turning the two into opposites. One losing his family at the beginning of his life to crime and becoming a hero because of it being grim and serious all the time yet human. The other losing his family in his adulthood to a freak electrical accident and coming to the conclusion that life was just big joke and losing his sanity, and almost always being humorous and almost without humanity- yet enough to almost take Batman's offer of help to get rehabilitation. While the Joker outright says he might be wrong as it remembers it differently at times, and other versions have been given (it's possible he might have been a little crazy before too) this idea that the Joker wasn't born evil and that all it takes is just one bad day or that the Joker is in a sense a victim of fate and Batman himself, is just a far more interesting idea than a psychopathic teenager named Jerome who killed his mom and might have been abused and therefore was turned into a killer, is a lot less interesting than the idea of one bad day turning the sanest man crazy. Or of a multiple choice past, as the Joker potentially just being a ordinary man who lost it, or criminal who befell an accident is just much better than Jerome. And quite honestly the lack of utter subtlety in that potential joker character just highlights my problem with Gotham. The show feels a disturbing need to be people over the head with comic book lore and characters in Easter eggs or plots.
ReplyDeleteYeah I really didn't like that episode.
ReplyDeletePersonally I don't mind them doing it.
ReplyDeleteYes The Joker's origin should remain a mystery but to me Gotham is an alternative universe to the comics etc.
I love Gotham because I think it shines a light on an under appreciated character in James Gordon. However in saying that I don't consider it cannon.
It's a great show, to me, but I consider it cannon as much as I consider Arrow cannon to Green Arrow.
That's just my thoughts anyway on the subject.
Then age that bastard two years and send him packing to Richard Dragon.
ReplyDeleteRichard Dragon? and no i want David Mazouz as the Dark Knight
ReplyDeleteHe's one of DC's best martial artists and trained Batman, well one of the people who did. Then we're in luck David is 14.
ReplyDeletehe starts training at 14?! damn no wonder he's a badass fighter LOL
ReplyDeleteAnd that's on top of getting degrees in science, law and business and learning other skills. Dude's efficient.
ReplyDeletewow never realized how like you said "efficient" he was, nice!
ReplyDeleteJet Li started doing martial arts at the age of 8 and I'm sure other people have been younger when they started.
ReplyDeleteThis is just a header image, one that was set up prior to season one's beginning. No correlation to season 2
ReplyDeleteI concur and am thoroughly disappointed that this is the backstory they are going with the Joker. I wrote a complete history for my version of the Joker in a series I am writing called Dark Gotham where I give a complete history of the Joker without destorying the mystery. I am so sad that the writers of Gotham couldn't or didn't even attempt to do that in this show. The point of the Joker is to be the foil and opposite of Batman. Where is Batman is order, the Joker is chaos. The story they gave for Jerome does not even come close to reinforcing that notion at all.
ReplyDeleteI just wish they could of been more creative than going with the typical he is crazy because his home life sucked scenario.
Oh, the origin was a piece of crap Jajaja But i liked Monagham's performance... At first i tought "Well, the Red Hood episode follows the Joker one? I see where it's all going..." and i was super wrong, sadly xD
ReplyDeleteDidn't you know Joker was already on Flash lol
ReplyDeleteYes Mark Hamill. My favourite Joker.
ReplyDeleteI gotta be honest when i heard him speak i was like no way is that lol
ReplyDeleteWhy the hell am i guest lol
ReplyDeleteI know, right? Keeps happening to me.
ReplyDeleteI knew going in but oh how I love that man as a villain.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite episode in batman was when he thought he got rich and he said he can take on batman but not the IRS lol
ReplyDelete"I'm crazy enough to take on Batman, but the IRS no thank you!"- Joker's Millions. It's messed that I knew that from memory. Loved that and the episode where Batman is believed to have been killed and Joker gives a eulogy.
ReplyDeleteLove Ben taking a stab at himself with the wifebeater joke!
ReplyDeleteI'm quite looking forward to catching up with this show this summer...
i always wondered why a tank top is called a tank top
ReplyDeleteI believe it's a slang term that has stuck as a name for the sleeveless white undershirt, because of the perpetuated stereotype that men who engage in domestic violence wear a white sleeveless undershirt.
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