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Fan Expo Vancouver 2015 - Full Stephen Amell's Panel video

Apr 6, 2015

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Update: 6th April Thanks again to arrowshieldfan for the full panel video.



Thanks to arrowshieldfan for the heads up.

143 comments:

  1. anything intereseting to report? Sometimes I cant take panel videos unless its the "official" one and I has a better quality...

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  2. I really really don't want time travel to be introduced in Arrow. Because otherwise what was the point of season 3?
    Is it possible that the season would end on a happy note?
    Now I have to watch the spinoff every time a character from Arrow or the Flash go there :(

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  3. As long as they don't reset the big death that's coming up on episode 19 like The Flash did with Cisco just for the shock value & nothing else,i'm good!

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  4. If the Flash and Arrow Universe is connected, then Time Travel has to effect Arrow Verse also, it would not make sense otherwise, I half agree about what was the point of S3, but same applies to Flash, but that's just the consequence of TT.

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  5. I don't want them to hit the reset button on the Flash either but if they did then I want them to fix it in the season 2 premiere before Arrow airs. That way nothing changes.

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  6. I love how easily he owns the stage. He is such a great lead character. Born to do this. Now about the teases!
    I'm so over that Original TA s*it! I mean come on. It's just pushy, everyone in that cave deserved to be there at that point. It's big fuzz over nothing.
    I just ask myself when will those big Thea-Felicity scenes air? They were speaking about them for such a long time.
    Interesting teases about the spin off I wonder who will the "travler" from Arrow be, to go around in all 3 shows? Maybe Roy?
    Of course Time Travel exists but it doesn't have to happen in Arrow. And I will be so pissed if they try /do bring Sara back via TT.
    Now I'm intrigued by how the spinoff will be called? I assume something including the world Justice!

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  7. The dude with the Elmo costume, haha.


    But seriously, Stephen Amell is just a stand up guy. I really hope the writers utilize him more with the Oliver Queen persona next season.

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  8. I don't think its going to be as bad as we think it might be. Also based on how things are going in Arrow, and if they plant to have after effects of TT on Arrow, I kinda see where its going with that, And yea It might be a Fix to some things. But yea I'm just gonna let it play out we are close to the end of the season, its all set out now, I don't think the writers are going to change anything that has already been planned now.
    We just have to wait till summer to voice our future wants for the show.

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  9. Stephen Amell is pro on the stage in and interviews and panels, each time I see him I'm like such awesome dedication.

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  10. He gives his work 110% but he also has such a very strong presence and he's very charismatic. David Ramsey is also great in interviews and panels.

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  11. A time travel have to change that or at least someone else is gonna bit the dust.

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  12. It depends on what is going to change on the Flash. If Barry saved his mother and never became the Flash then Oliver would've died in 2x09. Although Barry was the one to help them find Gold so maybe Oliver never fought him in the first place? But then again that would mean that Felicity never met Cisco and Caitlin and they never came up with the Mirakuru cure. See? A lot of things could go horribly wrong if they messed with the timeline.

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  13. Yep! I also like he is so informed and prepared for this stuff. Some people go and barely know on which show they are. I mean awful, while he is doing a great job.

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  14. Sighs* I dont event want to imagien teh consequences if they TT in Arrow as well. I mean Barry wants to save his mom right? if he succeed then he wont be The Flash and some of the things that went on Arrow in s2 could never happened and there it goes all S3. At the end Flash will realize that he has to let his mother died not after he sees the consequences of course.

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  15. If we get big change I wonder how long the changed effect will last, Most of the time its usually for 1 or 2 Episodes, Examples being Fringe, Eureka.
    But yea I see your concerns.

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  16. That's what Flashpoint is. An intentional hell universe.

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  17. Dude really means it when says he's the hardest working actor on TV. On a unrelated note I wish we could get a Flarrow musical episode. Almost everyone in both casts is a talented singer.

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  18. You don't have to watch it. It'll be the MCU you benefit but it's not mandatory viewing to watch all the films.

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  19. The problem with TT is that the act of doing it alone is enough to eff the universe. So if he saves his mom or not the consequences can massively vary. It might alter everything or only little things.

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  20. Can't view the video and what I can gather from the comments his is confirming time travel will happen on Arrow?

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  21. Well Cisco's death was also done to convey to non-comic fans (and maybe comic ones) just how ruthless and psychopathic Eobard Thawne will be. And to demonstrate the good and bad of time travel. So I do't think it's for not. Not exactly. Only Ra's has access and knowledge of their locations and Oliver won't be the leader after this season. Plus the pits are really remote and only work within a certain very brief span. If Sara was put there now for example she's be a zombie.

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  22. If they go Flashpoint everything we reset then undone mostly. If they go little things (which I doubt given the emphasis of Nora's death on Barry's destiny, personality and relationships in the show) then he could just get his original backstory with minor changes.

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  23. but I have a feeling that he might not save his mom but find a way to not have his dad blamed. because messing with the TL like that would just be massively selfish and chaotic. and I think Barry will realize that.

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  24. Yeah that's going to be the main moral of that story. That you have to accept certain things. That's why I'm betting on a potential flash point adaption. To really showcase that idea.

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  25. I hope so, I don't mind if there are small "ripples" in both universes, but having a whole recon would be trying.

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  26. Then why do people want it happen so much?!?!

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  27. because it makes for good storytelling.

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  28. I know that I don't have to but if one of my favourite characters is there of course I would want to watch.

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  29. Because it's f*cking awesome! It's like a hellish dream of blood, death and pain. Designed to show why you don't mess with the timeline.

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  30. Well at least you can insult Palmer while viewing it.

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  31. He certainly is. He gives a great interview. He certainly knows how to entertain the fans.

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  32. Honestly can you imagine the Arrow characters singing and dancing? No I'm serious I want you to imagine Oliver or Quentin singing.

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  33. So do you think Caity will a look alike of sara in the spin-off?

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  34. Contrary to popular belief I don not enjoy hating characters.

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  35. Shado had a twin sister, so... :D I am more interested on The Flash anyway.. I think it is way better than arrow s3... or arrow s01 - s03

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  36. Yes, well, you seem to have a narrow margin for what you do like.

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  37. "It's like a hellish dream of blood, death and pain. " Whoa! Know your audience, Graydon! If you want to convince me to like it that is SO not the way to do it. But I get your point. If it's just a cautionary tale and everything will be back to normal in a matter of an episode or two I would be OK with that.

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  38. Well I've seen Holland, Barrowman, Rickards, Haynes, Consnett, Valdes, Gustin, Martin, Cavanagh, even Wentworth Miller. So they're not hard. But those two? Yep it'd be beautiful. I mean thet'd probably the only two who wouldn't sing, but man it'd be beautiful. So yes I want this. I NEED this Koky. Just imagine with me the beauty of it.

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  39. There are so many different ways I can answer that but it's not worth wasting my time on.

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  40. I would bet if Barry mom is saved his dad will died.....there has to be a price to pay for messing up the timeline

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  41. Yes that's basically Flashpoint, Barry reboots the universe and it's about 90% the same after he does. Problem is I can't really convince you unless you like the idea of seeing characters have their lives flipped and different. And you don't seem to.

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  42. I agree the actors have beautiful voices, even Stephen, but I mean the characters can you really imagine them singing? lol

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  43. Arrow Season 2>The Flash Season 1>Arrow Season 1>Arrow Season 3 IMO.Arrow is a hot mess at the moment.

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  44. Yes, good point. you always pay a price, time has to balance itself out.

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  45. Few do. Few do. Well that's not true for me. I love to hate some characters, but that's different.

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  46. well in smallville they mess up the timeline.....clark save Lana when she was supposely suppose to died and as a result Jonathon dies.....so timeline still remain the same

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  47. I think she'll straight up be Sara and Barry's modification of the time stream will somehow keep her death but resurrect her. So it still impacted the team.

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  48. I do actually but I hate resets. If everything gets resolved quickly then I'm so in.

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  49. well, in Fringe they actively were trying to set it back, and it lasted more then 2 episodes and Eureka is was permanent. So if it does happen it will have small/mild lasting affects on Arrow/Flash.

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  50. It's not a complete reset. As it created a similar but different universe, kind of like Fringe.

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  51. That's because Clark didn't change a lot of things. He didn't change something that happened 15 years ago. Just like Barry did; he saved Cisco but Iris' colleague died and CC found out Barry's identity. The timeline remained the same but a lot changed just because he changed one day. Can you imagine 15 years?

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  52. for me I will like it anyway, short term is fun, long term is great.

    for Eureka they had both - I actually liked the long term on they did.

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  53. it doesn't matter really if it 15 years if you go with the Einstein model of the Universe and how time works. It is still just one day 15 years ago. yes, the ripple would flow out more, over 15 years, but still. As for the one day he was warned NOT to change anything and he did it anyway, and many things. So that is why is was so effed.

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  54. But that was a matter of 1 day. 15 years that's a whole different story.

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  55. In Fringe they didn't really come back to their original timeline; Olivia was the only one who remembered the old timeline. And Eureka changed a lot and remained with the changes.

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  56. I did to, though I thought it was a cheat with Allison's son.

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  57. Eureka had 2 other short term time changes that lasted 1 episode along with the big one at the end as a consequence for half a decade long time change.



    Same with Fringe they had 2 episode one, and the one you are talking about with Only Olivia remembered the old timeline.
    - The same happens with Flash with few others who remember.

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  58. As long as the team THINKS Sara died then most of the story stays the same. Nyssa and the league never saw Sara's body so it would actually be minor if her body were to vanish, only erasing the graveyard scene. She could just show up. It would still keep everybody else on the same path for the season.

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  59. It was, but I had a feeling that might have been their plan even before that story line, with that "the Artifact" storyline but they didn't go along with it. At least that's how I felt back then.

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  60. For the record I hated the changes at first but in time I got used to them. But in the Flash's case we are talking about changing 2 shows. That's why I don't want the reset to be permanent. Especially on Arrow. I spent 3 years getting invested in those stories and suffered with the characters through season 3, so don't change that in a matter of 1 episode.

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  61. Changing the timeline so it would be better because the dislike for epic season 3 is wrong........no way should it be change to suit the fan wishes

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  62. Its not because of the fans.
    Based on the Flash Ep 1, it was planned ahead.
    Based on Comic Book Arcs, it was always an arc they could adapt in to the Show.
    Even In comics once you establish connected universe Time travel change effects not 1 other comic but all of the connected ones.

    In both DC and Marvel, big change is coming to all main comics series again.

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  63. Also, found it a tiny bit offensive in that she kept trying to "fix" her son instead of accepting him for who he was. And treating Autism like a disease instead a different way of looking at the world and she was only happy once he was "normal"

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  64. I agree. Season 3 had its problems but don't solve them with a reset; that's just cheap storytelling. Also if they did it to bring Sara back it would be stupid.

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  65. I really don't think that is what it is. It seems like they were setting up the TT in Flash from the beginning. So its not a surprise they are doing it and since the universe are connected not a surprise it would affect both.

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  66. ^ I did too. I would of been fine with it. But I'm remembering correctly yea, when he was OK, she was trying to keep it fixed. and it was a bit "not cool"

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  67. This is why these time travel stories bug me, because they can never really make sense once you start factoring in the butterfly effect. Plus, Eobard going back in time and taking over Wells' body should have screwed up the timeline in far more ways than Barry could ever have done in just one day. In fact, Eobard took over Wells' body so that he could make things happen faster in STAR labs. So the fact that the timeline has remained intact, given his influence , makes absolutely no sense to me. Also, had Eobard not gone back in time, Cisco would not have died at the hands of fake Wells either, so Barry actually rectified the timeline in that sense.

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  68. We actually can't be sure how much that event changed things since we never saw the original timeline. It's possible a lot changed because of Eobard taking over Wells' body.

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  69. Actually the current timeline is the result of Eobard changing the past. If he hadn't then the world as we know it is completely different!! Also another thing, if Barry went back to the night his mom died; the current Eobard would go with him to prevent the past from repeating itself which means there would be 2 RF's in that night!!!

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  70. Its part of his powers - "Through this Speed Force, he also has the ability to create multiple after-images like Hunter Zolomon, the modern day Zoom, and, unlike The Flash and other users of the original Speed Force,
    can travel through and alter time, and can erase people from existence
    (Flash cannot change the past without dramatic consequences). He
    paradoxically exists backwards in time."

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  71. It is not a reset honey. *SPOILERS FOR FLASHPOINT. DON'T READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED*


    Barry goes back in time saves his mom. He wakes up in the current time that is 2015 and has only memeory of our present time line. He is surprised to see his mom is alive and there is no Flash. Then slowly he realizes a lot of things are effed up in this universe. As Graydon said lot of blood and mayhem. He realizes he needs to fix things. So he replicates the lightning and becomes Flash runs back in time again and stops our Barry from saving his mom. He once again wakes up and he is in present time. Nothing much has changed except some minor stuff. FLASHPOINT is basically a lesson for Barry to not mess with timeline.


    Personally I think nothing in Arrow will change if they do in the Flash universe.

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  72. In a recent episode, Eobard checked the computer to see if the timeline was intact and he was reassured that nothing had changed. I'm assumed that meant that the future was the same as when he had left it.

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  73. OK now I like that, seeing Barry letting his mom die would break my heart, but I like that story.

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  74. For the future he needed it was intact. He never said it was the original future.

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  75. It's the current future after he altered the timeline but they never confirmed that it was the future he experienced originally.

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  76. In comics his mom and Barry both decide to sacrifice her. That is the difference between Barry and RF. He will never be selfish.

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  77. I just saw someone mention on tumblr Cisco is going to make Laurel some canary cry devices. Don't know the source. I expected this. I am so glad she is not getting any meta human powers. I never want any regular on Arrow to have powers. Mirakuru itself was too much.

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  78. Mirakuru was not that bad. One thing I do notice is how much expectations, wants and limits people have on this show. They really get themselves in a snit when it doesn't go their way. (not that I am saying you are) just noticing that in the comments as of late.

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  79. the original source is from twitter........from AK. Well Laurel is a metahuman but I guess we have to deal with the use of highly advance canary cry instead

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  80. And my problem with this is that no matter how smart Eobard is, there is no way, that he can predict the effect that every action of his would have on the future. To me it just seems implausible that he'd be able to change the future to his liking, then actually keep it that way, given that he's still hanging around influencing the way things are happening. Every little thing he does will have a far bigger change in the future that he cannot control, so to me, the timeline should be changing constantly.

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  81. as long as she gets one now its fine lol.

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  82. also, one with better implementation then Sara's

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  83. You are right. I totally throw a fit if things don't go according to my desire in Arrow. They started this show way different from Green Arrow comic books. So the fans like me who has no comic book background who got attracted to the gritty realistic hero story is always a bit skeptic when they introduce powers to this show. I really disliked mirakuru story line. They gave super powers to Slade and then Oliver was able to conquer him in a hand to hand combat alone?

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  84. I would be proud of Cisco, if he builds something she can attach it on her neck that activates when she puts her fingers on some buttons or, one that can be placed in the mouth.

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  85. Yes something she can wear and not have to hold it in her hand.

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  86. You know what's the scariest part in all of this? The words "current future" make sense!!!!!!!!
    Also another thing. How did Eobard build the PA? If Wells died then he never built it which means there are no schematics for Eobard to use!

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  87. Maybe the Fringe device is not shape shifting device it transfers the dying person's memory and thoughts too. Or he gets all the schematics from Gideon.

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  88. which is funny because I am familiar with the comics and at first I was like "what is this shit!?" but then I forgot that and enjoyed it.


    I also have no expectations and realize it is just a TV show / fun 40+ minutes of escapism, I'm not expecting Schindler's List of Citizen Kane.



    Also as to Slade remember Felicity injected him with the cure before the beat-down.


    And seeing as how involved Green Arrow was with the JLA and Superman its hard not to imagine or give a crap about superpowers leaking in.

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  89. yes, something similar to how Oliver modulates his voice only for her it would be sonic.

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  90. That's why he uses Gideon an AI interface.

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  91. it would make sense if it was some special collar wear around the neck and when she scream the device would be her scream but louder and deadlier.......it probably going to be a device.

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  92. Shannon told me that he just took his appearance and that there's no leftover Wells.

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  93. yes it would be a tech version of canary cry and it would be great. I don't know why they did not do the same thing for Court Vertgio and the sonic device

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  94. Hey I do not mind super powers in guest stars or occasional villains. It is fun to watch Oliver being creative. Also a great villain with powers being put down with hero team ups are really fun to watch. But he is a normal dude playing ninja. This is his titular show. So another member on his team having a tactical advantage over him with powers like Roy's mirakuru strength or Laurel having Canary cry which cannot be disabled (if it is a device it is vulnerable) kind of makes Oliver less prominent. Now on The Flash introduce as many super powers as they want. I will enjoy it tremendously.

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  95. But that is not explained in the show. Not Wells's consiousness. Maybe his knowledge of the world he lives in. The languages he knew etc etc.

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  96. I agree with that. GA has always been more grounded in reality. I just don't get my hackles up as much as everyone else does when it shows up on the show.

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  97. That is the best and worst part of being in Arrow fandom. We are a bunch of passionate people. Also I think it's because Arrow producers changed their course a lot from the beginning. One day they will say No super powers. Next week it will it is possible.

    Spoiler tv has the sanest fans. Here people don't go back and forth in a passive aggressive way on and on. Lot of agree to disagree happens here. Lol. Other forums are a nightmare.

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  98. 2 more hours and I can go out eat watch shows. Yup been at work all this time lol

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  99. she needs to become a metahuman

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  100. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TIME TRAVEL EXISTS IN ARROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  101. Did she go on a road trip to Central City during "that" boom? Man I don't know what Laurel was doing last season, if she had a job during that time or was still drinking.
    Wait let me forget all that lol...

    But yea ^ that would be cool if can happen, but if she is staying on arrow not likely.

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  102. yeah i know, wishful thinking huh?

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  103. They must show changing the past as something BAD. If not you can dive into the "Heroes S**tstorm", as i call it: My guess is Barry will save his mother in the Season Finale and will return to this new timeline in wich:


    a) His parents are divorce/his father is dead(maybe even Barry is the one who dies).
    b) The particle accelerator blow up still and made Cisco a metahuman(Vibe).
    c) Caitlin becomes Killer Frost.
    d) Cait doesn't know Ronnie is alive with Prof. Stein mind controlling his body(and he is hiding) so she goes bad.
    e) He never lived with Iris and Joe so they don't have the same relationship.
    f) Iris is engaged/married to Eddie.


    In 2x01 Barry arrives and Vibe fights him because he doesn't know him and thinks he is bad. Dr. Wells(the real one) is alive and helps Cisco.
    In 2x02 they both team up to fight Caitlin. They look for Ronnie and reunite them.
    In 2x03 Barry realizes he screw things up and has to come back so he returns back in time again and let's Eobard kill his mother.


    They need to show is something bad, not something to fix things because if not you always go back to the past/future to solve the problems.

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  104. yea/
    If I was a writer/producer/directer/creater, who ever on Arrow has the most control, I would never make a promise or statement that we will not deal with "super".
    But they are being more open to many things now so that's good.

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  105. This is why I try not to think too much when it comes to time travel plots! Nothing ever adds up!, LOL. I think Eobard took the PA with him when he went back to the past so he didn't have to rebuild it. There's that scene outside Barry's parent's house where the PA appears and tells him that he used up all his powers and doesn't have enough to return to the future.

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  106. We already know that. If it exist in Flash exist in Arrow. Now, is time travel on The Flash affect Arrow? I don't think so...

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  107. It's more likely they'll just do Flashpoint and do all that there. And they're probably focusing on bringing in Wally West instead of making Cisco and Caitlin metas.

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  108. It better think so lol

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  109. No. I think you can gather that Amell believes that the universes are connected. If something happens in Flash, it happens to same world that Arrow lives in: earthquakes, time travel, people running faster than the speed of sound, whatever. Global and nationwide events would affect both equally.

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  110. I don't think they'll go alternate universe for any length of time (more than an episode or two) until they are totally bankrupt for story ideas. It always involves erasing your entire continuing story and that is frustrating for people who are tied to ongoing story threads. It's a later season thing to do. Like making the hero your bad guy for the season. First they have to get to a point where there isn't any more room for growth without resorting to massive heavy-handed plot devices..

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  111. People, I'm concerned for this Arrow-original character moving around all the spinoffs. The only one who fits in all three shows is Felicity. Right? I mean...? Plus, they have to break Felicity and Oliver apart--having her gone half the time would accomplish that.


    And no more Team Arrow this season?


    I'm worried.

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  112. don't be, Felicity is suppose to have a rather large storyline in season 4.

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  113. TPTB say a lot of things are "big" "major" "epic" and you know how those turn out. Plus, the spinoff is mid-season is it not?


    I don't like change...Maybe I should watch more procedurals.

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  114. well, I didn't say they said it was any of those just that they were going to dig into her father and also HIVE, so they can't very well do that if she is not on the show.

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  115. I'm really not that worried about it. I don't think it will be as bad as you think it will be if it will be anything at all. There is no guarantee the new spinoff will succeed anyways.

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  116. I'm not sure it will be "bad," I'm just worried. This seems like potentially a major change to one of my favorite characters and a team dynamic that IMO is at the heart of Arrow.

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  117. it HAS and it WILL affect it and people need to accept it

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  118. There is always two or ten things that don't make sense lol
    I meant the particle accelerator.

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  119. Actually MG has stated multiple times Felicity will be in season 4 of Arrow and be prominent. I can't see her doing much on the other shows other than an occasional guest appearance. If the show is smart they'll actually let Olicity be together for awhile. There is a whole slew of issues they can deal with if they are in a relationship. They have the child storyline MG keeps saying is coming. They have time apart while he works. Also I would have to guess they are going to do something drastic to fix the Arrow in Starling since as of now, he can't actually be the Arrow in Starling.

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  120. actors can be on more then one show and not have it dramatically affect the other. but change happens.

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  121. yeah, I mainly stick to this place, it seems to have a better mix of people.

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  122. People think it will erase plot points from Arrow's third Season. It won't. It would be the most hilarious plot twist ever: We spent 22 episodes creating a story... Oh! That character on the other show came here and now changed everything in 10 minutes.

    Flash's time travel/Flashpoint story won't affect Season 3 of Arrow.

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  123. That's true, resetting one event that say happens a week ago won't have as much impact than changing events that go one year, 5 years and so on.

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  124. Wouldn't that affect her too?

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  125. There's really no reason for any time travel on Flash to have big consequences on Arrow. At most you might see some small tweaks, eastern eggs etv. But you won't see anything wipe out whole seasons of Arrow.
    It would be awesome if they would do their own version of Flashpoint. With Oliver dead and his father becoming Green Arrow (same way as Thomas Wayne became Batman), but in such case most likely would still be limited to Flash and the timeline would get fixed before Arrow's own storyline would start

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  126. I swear if they kill of Roy Harper i am out and done with this show forever

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  127. it will only truly affect Arrow if he goes weeks, months and years back in time

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  128. I hate Roy with all my heart.I'm pretty sure the death will be either Captain Lance or Roy.I hoping for the latter!Sorry.

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  129. DANG IT!!!! i wanted to hear his answer to the Roy question

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  130. Well for some reason I love Roy and Especially Colton Haynes. Like you liked Daniel on Revenge!

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  131. Yes,i did/still do love daniel & will always miss him dearly.There are only few characters on-screen that i hate profoundly-Tyler(TVD),Roy(Arrow),Rowena(SPN) & Katrina(SH)-Thank god she's gone!

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  132. LOL....I was wondering why you called the AI interface the "PA"....I should have realized that you were talking about the particle accelerator, duh! Anyway, that's a great question....you'd think that killing Wells should erase knowledge of everything that Wells developed. Even if Eobard absorbed Wells' thoughts, how would he be able to build the particle accelerator any faster than the real Wells? The only explanation that makes "sense" to me was ODA's suggestion that he got the schematics from Gideon, who seems to possess the ability to store prior iterations of the future. Somehow, I think I'd be less confused if I had read the comic book!

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  133. I don't think Einstein himself would be able to make sense of all those plot holes lol

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  134. Thanks for the explanation...I never read the comic books and I'm not really familiar with Zoom, so maybe that's why some of this is baffling to me. So basically, what you're saying is that when Eobard went back in time and killed Barry's mom, he was able to manipulate things so that all of the subsequent consequences (like Barry's dad being imprisoned or Barry devoting his life to solving crimes, living with Iris, getting blasted by the particle accelerator, etc.) would have no effect on the future?


    When he went back in time, his AI interface told him that he used up a lot of his power fighting the Flash. So is it correct to conclude that even if he didn't have enough power to go back to his time, he still possessed the capacity to prevent massive changes in the future as a consequence of his presence in the past?

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  135. MG did confirm on his Tumblr 4/8/15 that Felicity is NOT the character that will go between the three shows. She is fully on Arrow. Just an FYI

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