I'm always amazed by the ability of transforming a beautiful looking woman like KC in to a completely different person. Aside from the awful Photoshop the poster looks good, the colors are great.
There we go. Glad they finally got one out for her. The expression on her face is kinda weird - it almost looks like they Photoshopped her mouth back in the wrong place. Is that just me? That's annoying. But I'm glad they finally got a poster out from this campaign for the only female superhero. And I'm into the backlighting and that Laurel has her baton - I love that her weapons are police batons.
Me too, I hope she spends the hiatus trainining so she can be even better next season. They need to learn how to focus and center the attention on the group. It feels like she was important for three or four episodes and then it was back to being a background character, it doesnt fully feel as if she was part of the team.
exactly. not sure if she's "officially" a full team member, sure doesn't feel that way. I never saw the need for additional members anyway, not even Roy.
Roy always felt useful and helpful. And I think he (and eventually Thea) are needed. They allow Oliver to learn to let people help him, hold on to his humanity when he's Green Arrow in the field, and can do what he does when he's not available or finally takes off the hood. And backup is never not helpful.
except Laurel is barely in some episodes. And then her scenes are often not really important. I'm an Olicity shipper, yes, but that's not why I watch the show and it has nothing to do why I think Laurel is a bad and pointless character. With non-answers like this you just prove my point.
yeah, but was he needed? With Roy and lately with Thea, Diggle was a lot less in the field. Oliver always had a backup man and of all the (potential) sidekicks I like Diggle the most. I'm not saying it can't work with Laurel (or Thea), but the team didn't miss anything when it was just Oliver, Felicity and Diggle. And I don't like Laurel.
Diggle's not a sidekick or a costumed hero Roy was Oliver's protege and partner. He was someone Oliver trained, trusted and was a brother to. Good for Oliver. Diggle was also his brother, but it's different with Roy he was his partner, he relied on him having his back (and he did) in a way Felicity and Diggle couldn't. Well sucks for you since you'll have to watch her.
it kind of does. so far no one has made any kind of argument for Laurel (being female doesn't count). Why is that? Maybe because the show has down a terrible job with what was supposed to be the female lead character? If you or I like her or not isn't even the point. Just think how the show would look like if Laurel wasn't in it. She's not essential (and please don't say she's an important character in the comics).
The show does keep making her irrelevant at the weirdest times though. She worked with Roy the most while Oliver was gone, but she's not in on the plan to get him out of jail? She's not there to say goodbye? Does she even know that he's not really dead?
The show went out of its way to show us that Laurel and Thea care about each other - that's a relationship that goes all the way back to season 1. But did she even know that Thea was injured? Did anyone think to tell her? There should have at least been a scene where Oliver asked her to take care of the city (which would've been a huge development considering how adversarial they've been over the whole vigilante thing), but nope. They cut that.
It's just weird how and when they choose to sideline her.
And I'm just joining the conversation, not advocating for killing her off or anything like that.
At last. Still hate the mask though. Make it small. Darken the area around her eyes. If I say this every time her photo is shown will they change it? May be not.
That's not how an argument works. And you're wrong, she was important in the Brick arc. She helped comfort Felicity after Oliver's disappearance. She helped Oliver when he was arrested and helped track and fight the league. And she will help get Oliver back and best Ra's. Laurel while you may not like it has been important to Arrow recently. And she will continue to do so as she's the Black Canary.
Hmm, I agree with some of the things... But I don't think Laurel will help Oliver best Ra's. Help get him back physically? Sure. But not help him best Ra's. I think that will be all Nyssa/Malcolm
I think they'll all play their part... Here's how I think it'll go:
Laurel/Ray/Thea - take out the lesser LoA members (beginners. Although IDK why Ra's would ever let them out in the field)
Digg/Malcolm/Nyssa/Maseo stick with Oliver and has his back while they go up against the more experienced LoA members.
In the end though when up against Ra's (boss level, heh), I think it'll be down to Nyssa/Oliver Vs. Ra's. Maybe they both take him down? Because Nyssa/Oliver vs Ra's would be kind of awesome to watch.
Also I wonder how Felicity will fit into all of this. Maybe she uses her tech to guide them through the whole thing?
I could see Malcolm potentially fighting Ra's. But I feel more likely he'll try to help Thea if she's in danger. I should have ben more clear, I don't think Laurel will fight Ra's. By that I meant help beat the league. Well most of the league aren't beginners and even beginners compared to anyone but Oliver, Roy, or anyone with league training dominate.
It's ok happens all the time to me. Mine is not Oliver's "Hero Fight Club" poster, it's from episode 4 when he was looking at Felicity. It's angsty I know but I like it lol
Was there an interview where she said that? Can you give me a link to it please if possible. Personally I think it is absolutely stupid to to not color around the eyes and having half gloves. Sara's and Helena's masks have dark color around their eyes. I find them extremely sexy in their costumes.
If I understood you correctly you say we need Laurel because she's female. How else would you describe an argument like that? Why should it matter if the show has a female hero?
I'm not saying that we need Laurel because she's a female superhero, I'm saying that Laurel has been integral to the plot and that the face that she is female is just a pro but not the entire reason she is needed.
Thanks for the article. I never read this. Seriously!!! They should never have allowed her to give advice and more than that took that up. Finger less gloves and non darkened eyes was her idea? Ever heard of finger prints? Vigilantes wear gloves for a reason. I wish they had darkened her eyes and kept her lipstick normal. Also I don't get how BC gets the time to do her nails every time she wears the costume.
Can anyone tell me where the fishnet pattern is there in this costume? It was there in Sara's pants. I don't see it in Laurel. Is it the under shirt?
She looks fine. The mask looks fine, the costume looks fine. Sara-Canary and Huntress may have worn gloves, but they also "had time" to put lipstick on every time they dressed in costume. Let's not forget it's a superhero show, albeit the most gritty and realistic one ever produced for television. But still stretching the boundaries of physics and reality with the abilities and accomplishments of the human heroes as well as the meta-human heroes.
Agree to disagree. Glad that you like the mask and gloves. I don't. Love the hair though. BTW do you know where the fishnet pattern is in her costume? I don't see it.
It's not there from what I can see. Wasn't there a period in the comics where they were eliminated from the costume, when the character had short hair? So the 1940s fishnet design hasn't always been in the comics either.
The costumes evolve. Flash's will change. Arrow's has changed and will change further. Huntress' is totally different (although they paid homage to the original comics version when Helena posed as a dancer in the strip club). Most likely Black Canary's will change also, although Sara's version was closer to the "traditional" version including the big Dolly Parton hair.
That's what I thought. I don't think the fishnet design is necessary. That is not what defines BC. But in the article above KC said they have the fishnet design weaved through out the costume. That's why I asked. I hope the costume evolves. And I really hope her mask becomes smaller and her eyes darkened LoL. You can see I have a huge problem with it. I need to get over it.
We will have to start scrutinizing hi-rez photos of Cassidy in costume. It's quite possible the pattern remains, but it isn't apparent in video form. The simulated garter belts suggest a play on fishnet stockings, but I haven't noticed the design on the lower leggings. The camisole she wears under the leather jacket is a lace mesh design, and it's not visible most of the time, so I don't think the pattern would be incorporated there.
Hey, at least the character now has the Canary Cry, which appears to function exactly the same as it does with the comics' meta-human version of the character, so that's a huge plus and an indicator that the costumes continue to evolve as much as the characters do.
That just shows what happens when a female character's storyline revolves around being a love interest. If only the show didn't push the Lauliver romantic relationship in season one but instead started developing Laurel/BC as a character from the beginning I doubt the hate for the character would exist in the first place.
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I'm always amazed by the ability of transforming a beautiful looking woman like KC in to a completely different person. Aside from the awful Photoshop the poster looks good, the colors are great.
ReplyDeleteBARRRRRRY!!!!
ReplyDeleteFINALLY! That's all i got to say...
ReplyDeleteI hope there's gonna be more Laurel in season 4!
ReplyDeleteLmfao
ReplyDeleteSo much photoshop. It almost looks like it was computer generated.
ReplyDeleteOhhh I don't know whats wrong with me and my spelling today.
ReplyDeleteI would've pt Oliver as well, but I hate the pose.
There we go. Glad they finally got one out for her. The expression on her face is kinda weird - it almost looks like they Photoshopped her mouth back in the wrong place. Is that just me? That's annoying. But I'm glad they finally got a poster out from this campaign for the only female superhero. And I'm into the backlighting and that Laurel has her baton - I love that her weapons are police batons.
ReplyDeleteat this point we should not be surprise with the photoshop addiction the cw marketing department has, its ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteMe too, I hope she spends the hiatus trainining so she can be even better next season. They need to learn how to focus and center the attention on the group. It feels like she was important for three or four episodes and then it was back to being a background character, it doesnt fully feel as if she was part of the team.
ReplyDeleteThe point is we needed a female superhero
ReplyDeleteI would not say no point, but I've never liked how they handled the her becoming the BC story or that they wrote her as a legitamite full team member.
ReplyDeleteAgree 100%
ReplyDeleteThey could of done a better job at handling it though.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say it feels like she is a legitimate full team member, sometimes it feels like the forget about her.
ReplyDeleteI'm just glad it's not that hilariously awkward photo she took with Cisco last week.
ReplyDeleteFinally!!!!...thats my girl!!!! Canary Cry is up this Wednesday!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLaurel looks cool. I was hoping it was merely taking awhile.
ReplyDeleteI hope the costume is an ongoing evolution. What she's wearing right now is functional but, and I know this sounds lame, it's not all that cool.
ReplyDeleteThat's kind of sexist, isn't it? Also, I'm pretty sure Thea will join Team Arrow sooner or later.
ReplyDeleteexactly. not sure if she's "officially" a full team member, sure doesn't feel that way. I never saw the need for additional members anyway, not even Roy.
ReplyDeleteWell I knew she had one just glad they finally released it.. Looks good
ReplyDeleteRoy always felt useful and helpful. And I think he (and eventually Thea) are needed. They allow Oliver to learn to let people help him, hold on to his humanity when he's Green Arrow in the field, and can do what he does when he's not available or finally takes off the hood. And backup is never not helpful.
ReplyDeleteHuh mines a metallic Reverse Flash emblem.
ReplyDeleteDo you actually watch Arrow or do you just skip the parts without Olicity? Because the answer to your question is in the show.
ReplyDeleteMine is Oliver in his Arrow suit.
ReplyDeleteNeat!
ReplyDeleteexcept Laurel is barely in some episodes. And then her scenes are often not really important.
ReplyDeleteI'm an Olicity shipper, yes, but that's not why I watch the show and it has nothing to do why I think Laurel is a bad and pointless character. With non-answers like this you just prove my point.
yeah, but was he needed? With Roy and lately with Thea, Diggle was a lot less in the field. Oliver always had a backup man and of all the (potential) sidekicks I like Diggle the most. I'm not saying it can't work with Laurel (or Thea), but the team didn't miss anything when it was just Oliver, Felicity and Diggle. And I don't like Laurel.
ReplyDeleteDiggle's not a sidekick or a costumed hero Roy was Oliver's protege and partner. He was someone Oliver trained, trusted and was a brother to. Good for Oliver. Diggle was also his brother, but it's different with Roy he was his partner, he relied on him having his back (and he did) in a way Felicity and Diggle couldn't. Well sucks for you since you'll have to watch her.
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't prove any point, except that you hate Laurel.
ReplyDeleteit kind of does. so far no one has made any kind of argument for Laurel (being female doesn't count). Why is that? Maybe because the show has down a terrible job with what was supposed to be the female lead character? If you or I like her or not isn't even the point. Just think how the show would look like if Laurel wasn't in it. She's not essential (and please don't say she's an important character in the comics).
ReplyDeleteThe show does keep making her irrelevant at the weirdest times though. She worked with Roy the most while Oliver was gone, but she's not in on the plan to get him out of jail? She's not there to say goodbye? Does she even know that he's not really dead?
ReplyDeleteThe show went out of its way to show us that Laurel and Thea care about each other - that's a relationship that goes all the way back to season 1. But did she even know that Thea was injured? Did anyone think to tell her? There should have at least been a scene where Oliver asked her to take care of the city (which would've been a huge development considering how adversarial they've been over the whole vigilante thing), but nope. They cut that.
It's just weird how and when they choose to sideline her.
And I'm just joining the conversation, not advocating for killing her off or anything like that.
Very. My feminist side is pacified now.
ReplyDeleteAt last. Still hate the mask though. Make it small. Darken the area around her eyes. If I say this every time her photo is shown will they change it? May be not.
ReplyDeleteThat's not how an argument works. And you're wrong, she was important in the Brick arc. She helped comfort Felicity after Oliver's disappearance. She helped Oliver when he was arrested and helped track and fight the league. And she will help get Oliver back and best Ra's. Laurel while you may not like it has been important to Arrow recently. And she will continue to do so as she's the Black Canary.
ReplyDeleteLMAO. He is such a jerk!!!
ReplyDeleteHmm, I agree with some of the things... But I don't think Laurel will help Oliver best Ra's. Help get him back physically? Sure. But not help him best Ra's. I think that will be all Nyssa/Malcolm
ReplyDeleteThe team (including Thea) will help defeat Ra's al Ghul and the league.
ReplyDeleteI think they'll all play their part... Here's how I think it'll go:
ReplyDeleteLaurel/Ray/Thea - take out the lesser LoA members (beginners. Although IDK why Ra's would ever let them out in the field)
Digg/Malcolm/Nyssa/Maseo stick with Oliver and has his back while they go up against the more experienced LoA members.
In the end though when up against Ra's (boss level, heh), I think it'll be down to Nyssa/Oliver Vs. Ra's. Maybe they both take him down? Because Nyssa/Oliver vs Ra's would be kind of awesome to watch.
Also I wonder how Felicity will fit into all of this. Maybe she uses her tech to guide them through the whole thing?
They have the prettiest actors on TV, and they are still not satisfied.
ReplyDeleteI could see Malcolm potentially fighting Ra's. But I feel more likely he'll try to help Thea if she's in danger. I should have ben more clear, I don't think Laurel will fight Ra's. By that I meant help beat the league. Well most of the league aren't beginners and even beginners compared to anyone but Oliver, Roy, or anyone with league training dominate.
ReplyDeleteKatie Cassidy doesn't want dark color around her eyes, she said that she wants the costume to be more feminine.
ReplyDeleteThis looks pretty cool. I hope they release a Ra's poster.
ReplyDeleteHe told them she was hurt though, that's why they showed up at the hospital. Did he not even tell Laurel that much?
ReplyDeleteI searched for him in the poster even before looking at Laurel because I KNEW he'd be there.
ReplyDeleteI think Felicity said they heard. And he never appeared to call them. No idea. I think he did tell her. But again no confirmation.
ReplyDeleteIt's ok happens all the time to me.
ReplyDeleteMine is not Oliver's "Hero Fight Club" poster, it's from episode 4 when he was looking at Felicity. It's angsty I know but I like it lol
Sexist?
ReplyDeleteWas there an interview where she said that? Can you give me a link to it please if possible. Personally I think it is absolutely stupid to to not color around the eyes and having half gloves. Sara's and Helena's masks have dark color around their eyes. I find them extremely sexy in their costumes.
ReplyDeleteIf I understood you correctly you say we need Laurel because she's female. How else would you describe an argument like that? Why should it matter if the show has a female hero?
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying that we need Laurel because she's a female superhero, I'm saying that Laurel has been integral to the plot and that the face that she is female is just a pro but not the entire reason she is needed.
ReplyDeleteShe hasn't and it's not a pro (not a con either).
ReplyDeletehttp://uk.eonline.com/news/616846/how-katie-cassidy-helped-create-the-black-canary-s-sexy-but-smart-new-look-on-arrow
ReplyDeleteThanks for the article. I never read this. Seriously!!! They should never have allowed her to give advice and more than that took that up. Finger less gloves and non darkened eyes was her idea? Ever heard of finger prints? Vigilantes wear gloves for a reason. I wish they had darkened her eyes and kept her lipstick normal. Also I don't get how BC gets the time to do her nails every time she wears the costume.
ReplyDeleteCan anyone tell me where the fishnet pattern is there in this costume? It was there in Sara's pants. I don't see it in Laurel. Is it the under shirt?
could she be any more gorgeous...
ReplyDeleteFinally! She looks awesome! I knew they where only taking their time.
ReplyDeleteShe looks fine. The mask looks fine, the costume looks fine. Sara-Canary and Huntress may have worn gloves, but they also "had time" to put lipstick on every time they dressed in costume. Let's not forget it's a superhero show, albeit the most gritty and realistic one ever produced for television. But still stretching the boundaries of physics and reality with the abilities and accomplishments of the human heroes as well as the meta-human heroes.
ReplyDeleteAgree to disagree. Glad that you like the mask and gloves. I don't.
ReplyDeleteLove the hair though. BTW do you know where the fishnet pattern is in her costume? I don't see it.
I hate how Laurel's grown on me. Pretty sure I'd still hate her if Felicity (Laurel 2.0) wasn't so annoying though.
ReplyDeleteIt's not there from what I can see. Wasn't there a period in the comics where they were eliminated from the costume, when the character had short hair? So the 1940s fishnet design hasn't always been in the comics either.
ReplyDeleteThe costumes evolve. Flash's will change. Arrow's has changed and will change further. Huntress' is totally different (although they paid homage to the original comics version when Helena posed as a dancer in the strip club). Most likely Black Canary's will change also, although Sara's version was closer to the "traditional" version including the big Dolly Parton hair.
That's what I thought. I don't think the fishnet design is necessary. That is not what defines BC. But in the article above KC said they have the fishnet design weaved through out the costume. That's why I asked. I hope the costume evolves. And I really hope her mask becomes smaller and her eyes darkened LoL. You can see I have a huge problem with it. I need to get over it.
ReplyDeleteAh, you'll be fine. ;)
ReplyDeleteWe will have to start scrutinizing hi-rez photos of Cassidy in costume. It's quite possible the pattern remains, but it isn't apparent in video form. The simulated garter belts suggest a play on fishnet stockings, but I haven't noticed the design on the lower leggings. The camisole she wears under the leather jacket is a lace mesh design, and it's not visible most of the time, so I don't think the pattern would be incorporated there.
Hey, at least the character now has the Canary Cry, which appears to function exactly the same as it does with the comics' meta-human version of the character, so that's a huge plus and an indicator that the costumes continue to evolve as much as the characters do.
That just shows what happens when a female character's storyline revolves around being a love interest. If only the show didn't push the Lauliver romantic relationship in season one but instead started developing Laurel/BC as a character from the beginning I doubt the hate for the character would exist in the first place.
ReplyDeleteAmazing!!!!!!!! My fav Arrow girl forever my girl!!!!
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