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Arrow - Episode 3.20 - The Fallen - Extended Promo

16 Apr 2015

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73 comments:

  1. Shannon16 April 2015 at 06:07

    Ra's is a real SOB and Malcolm is right up there with him. Even in Thea's death he's whispering shit in her ear. STFU!

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  2. Nick16 April 2015 at 06:08

    Thea jumping on Oliver looked bad... Bad effects are bad LOL


    Rest of the promo? Very much what we expected and theorized for weeks...

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  3. Nick16 April 2015 at 06:12

    Malcolm is a SOB but i didn't see it that way on that promo. He is like "do what you want. If you don't want to come back, then don't".

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  4. So Contagious16 April 2015 at 06:14

    I actually think that might be one of Malcolm's better moments. The Pit is supposed to change people, and apparently not for the better. He's trying to let her know that if she doesn't want to come back as something potentially bad or completely different than who she is now, he's letting her go. It's actually nice and somewhat selfless, so far as things Malcolm does go.

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  5. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 06:15

    What is the logic behind Felicity making this trip to Nanda Parbat? She's going into the very heart of the League of Assassins and for what? Moral support? There are no computers or tech so there's nothing to hack and she's no good in a fight if things go bad. Her presence there needlessly puts her in danger and gives Oliver one more thing to worry about when he should be focusing on Thea.

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  6. Spindae216 April 2015 at 06:16

    LOOKS INTENSE! this is really a big push for the show and I still don't know if I like it.

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  7. Graydon16 April 2015 at 06:20

    Right except Ra's won't touch her if Oliver is joining him. And she's one of the most important people in his life. She would want to be there.

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  8. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 06:23

    I'm guessing that Oliver likely hasn't made the decision to join the League before he leaves. It's probably the bargaining chip Ra's uses once he gets there so that doesn't track with me plus wanting to be there is a damn selfish reason if there's no guarantee of her safety in place for all the reasons I stated above.

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  9. Rjupiter16 April 2015 at 06:35

    she jumps up like a f*cking monkey, never have I laughed so hard.

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  10. O D A16 April 2015 at 06:35

    At last I felt that Malcolm loves Thea in his own shitty way. "You don't have to come back if you don't want to". Such a father thing to say. Looks really intense.

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  11. Buzzy's16 April 2015 at 06:38

    same here

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  12. Rjupiter16 April 2015 at 06:39

    i mean someone had to be taking the piss with that sequence, they just had to.

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  13. Graydon16 April 2015 at 06:45

    Judging from everything we know about Oliver, I'm not so sure he wants her to go (and I think again from the synopsis that he does commit). But if we're talking safety no one but Oliver and Malcolm should go. Diggle is skilled but with all those assassins and Maseo he'd be destroyed easily.

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  14. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 06:50

    I agree about Oliver. He'll likely want to do this all by himself if this arrangement is set up in advance.

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  15. Graydon16 April 2015 at 06:52

    Hey Malcolm may be a psychotic monster at times but he does in his often twisted way love his family.

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  16. Sparky16 April 2015 at 06:56

    Is this suppose to hint at Sara?vIt doesnt look like Laurels suit.


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCreZvzUsAAyvtW.jpg

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  17. Brian16 April 2015 at 06:57

    Just like a cat out of the bath tub.

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  18. O D A16 April 2015 at 06:59

    That is Sara's suit and wig but it is not Caity Lotz. For a moment I thought it was China White. But that's not her either.

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  19. Sparky16 April 2015 at 06:59

    Probably the stunt woman.

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  20. Spindae216 April 2015 at 07:00

    Yeah they wanted to hint this and maybe indicate they already used it on someone.

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  21. Brian16 April 2015 at 07:01

    I think they are just randomly showing scenes not all of which are related to Malcolm's voiceover. We know Laurel stays in Starling so they are just showing us that it's not just about Thea and Nanda Parbat.

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  22. Graydon16 April 2015 at 07:01

    I think he'd do it by himself anyway even if it isn't in advance. Since the last time he went to Nanda Parbat he and Diggle were captured.

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  23. ivan16 April 2015 at 07:01

    it's definitely not Caity but also not Katie

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  24. Sparky16 April 2015 at 07:03

    But this cant be Laurel. Because this show Saras suit.

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  25. Brian16 April 2015 at 07:07

    That's what I call a Speedy recovery.

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  26. O D A16 April 2015 at 07:09

    That is not Laurel's suit or wig.

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  27. Justin Valdes16 April 2015 at 07:22

    HOT DAMN this looks amazing. Ra's has officially put his sword through both of the Queen siblings. They just can't catch a break. Looks like the Lazarus Pit will change Thea significantly. And I can't wait to find out who that mystery woman is. Sara?! Is that you??

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  28. O D A16 April 2015 at 07:23

    LOL the pun!!!

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  29. Shannon16 April 2015 at 07:25

    Malcolm knows Thea. She's going to want to come back. Hello he trained her to be stronger/ better/ fearless, live!! She is HIS student, of course she's going to want to come back. I felt him whispering in her ear wasn't doing her any favors. She barely listens to him anyway. And the one person she loves, the only one she has left IS Oliver, she's going to want to be with her brother, not die to leave him alone. You may think it was a selfless act, iI however, see it as another one of his manipulations towards her.

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  30. Shannon16 April 2015 at 07:27

    I wish I could see it that way but I didn't.

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  31. Slade Wilson16 April 2015 at 07:35

    Agreed, I think it's ridiculous that she's there. I'm also surprised that Malcolm is there, considering he set all these events into motion by killing Sara.

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  32. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 07:51

    I doubt he'd mind Malcolm going. He's expendable and all this is his fault anyway.

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  33. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 07:53

    Malcolm's presence is most likely explained either by guilt or some delusional and futile notion of redemption.

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  34. GermanShipper16 April 2015 at 08:09

    kind of creepy, hope they don't turn her into some kind of wild beast.

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  35. Slade Wilson16 April 2015 at 08:17

    I don't think Malcolm has a guilty bone in his body.
    ---------------------------------Do you think there is any chance that Malcolm may end up becoming the Demons Head by seasons end ?


    I just keep getting that vibe from this season.

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  36. Graydon16 April 2015 at 08:25

    I disagree it's his and Ra's fault.

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  37. Graydon16 April 2015 at 08:32

    He seems genuinely remorseful now over the Undertaking and some guilt over what he did to Thea given his telling her to kill him in an attempt to help her heal. Despite all the horror Malcolm had caused there is some humanity in him.

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  38. MeatyStakes16 April 2015 at 08:57

    Oww, now I get why Malcolm didn't use the pit on Tommy. The pit might literally be a fate worse than death.

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  39. MeatyStakes16 April 2015 at 08:59

    We all know why she is there: so she and Ollie can fuck goodbye.

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  40. Slade Wilson16 April 2015 at 09:08

    I don't really feel that from him tbh, he still feels like he has some sort of end game, so he is feigning remorse.

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  41. Graydon16 April 2015 at 09:25

    Possible but he outright said that it was all for nothing and looked pretty f*cked up about it in 3x12.

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  42. JustGotLittUp16 April 2015 at 10:37

    Same reason why Digg is there. Moral support? Ra's intends his plan to work, so I doubt he'll be ordering his crew to kill any of Oliver's team members because Thea is enough to get Ra's what he wants. It's not about them screwing each other. It's about them supporting one another regardless of the risks. And I'm pretty sure Oliver knows what to expect when I they get to NP. If he thought it was too dangerous he would've kicked both felicity and diggle out of the plane.

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  43. "A"16 April 2015 at 10:46

    I did.

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  44. "A"16 April 2015 at 10:49

    LMAO ! Good One.

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  45. Anna Bender16 April 2015 at 10:55

    Seeing Laurel in this promo let me assume that they used the Pit on Sara. That would explain the darker tone of her character.

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  46. GermanShipper16 April 2015 at 11:33

    If I haven't overlooked her, Laurel isn't in the promo.

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  47. Spindae216 April 2015 at 11:35

    Think she meant the BC walking. But it seems like that is a double in Sara's BC suit.
    Seems like Laurel will have a minor role in this ep once again as she stays behind with Ray.

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  48. GermanShipper16 April 2015 at 11:47

    she will have a bigger part in episode 21 when it will be LoA vs Nyssa & Laurel. Overall I hope they keep her role rather small, it's better for the show.

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  49. Spindae216 April 2015 at 11:51

    Yeah seems like from 3x21 she will join the main game.
    I'm a fan of S03 Laurel, especially since mid season. S02 she was poor but overall I rather enjoy her. But that is just me.

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  50. Sparky16 April 2015 at 11:57

    Thea is going to remember how she killed Sara.

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  51. Juliana16 April 2015 at 12:09

    I only wish Malcolm were this considerate when he drugged Thea to kill Sara.

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  52. Anna Bender16 April 2015 at 12:51

    oops, I just confused their names. Corrected it.

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  53. Anna Bender16 April 2015 at 12:59

    I enjoyed S3 Laurel, too. She's more fun when she's not reduced to a love interest for Oliver. They had zero chemistry. These two characters work out better in a platonic way. So far I like what the writers did with her in S3.

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  54. ohlisa16 April 2015 at 13:03

    Honestly, for a second I thought she just threw her dress at him, and then I was like...well, when faced with an alternative I guess bad effects don't seem so awful.

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  55. GermanShipper16 April 2015 at 13:14

    she already knows she did. and Sara is going to be back anyway.

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  56. Spindae216 April 2015 at 13:18

    I wouldn't say they didn't have chemistry at all, they had some intense scenes in S01 especially that hook up towards the end of the season. They were badly written, I mean they were doomed from the start with him cheating on her with Sara. But seems like Laliver won't happen anymore in this show.
    Laurel's arc this season is quite great, she stands up for herself, the development was believable and Katie pulled of great those emotional scenes she had throughout the season. Much better writing and execution for Laurel's character.

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  57. ohlisa16 April 2015 at 13:25

    Yeah, she knows she killed Sara, but she's going to remember what happened.

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  58. Sparky16 April 2015 at 14:14

    But she is gonna have a flashback most likely.

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  59. greenUtopia16 April 2015 at 14:47

    oh shit, i stopped watching Arrow for a while now but this looks epic ... maybe i'll give it another shot

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  60. Anna Bender16 April 2015 at 17:45

    I'm glad that Lauliver won't happen anymore, 'cause the kind of relationship they have now is much more interesting. I like their friendship.
    Yepp, Laurel finally gets something decent to do. And I love her emerging friendship with Felicity. These two would make a great team on their own. (Birds of Prey) ;)

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  61. Alter Ego16 April 2015 at 18:24

    same thing with Batman. People that been revived be the Lazarus Pir never return as they were, just their body

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  62. Platynum16 April 2015 at 19:28

    Yup....glad they had Thea jumping out of the pit like that.She will change as the pit changes people.Cant wait for the episode.

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  63. TV_Seat16 April 2015 at 19:42

    Don't you mean demon monkey?

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  64. Rjupiter16 April 2015 at 20:28

    any kind of monkey, howler, chimp, red ass baboon, whatever. its just so incredibly terrible.

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  65. Pedro Rocha16 April 2015 at 20:52

    It may have been a dream

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  66. Roman16 April 2015 at 20:54

    Never give up hope! I did one time and regretted it.

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  67. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 21:28

    As I said earlier, that only tracks if Oliver commits to the League beforehand. Otherwise, not so much.

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  68. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 21:31

    So it's traditional for new League members to say goodbye with their genitals? First the initiation ceremony, then the branding, then the goodbye screw? The League of Assassins is very odd. :P

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  69. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 21:33

    It all started with Malcolm. He's the root cause. Sure Ra's is a relentless, soul-crushing bastard but he's only involved because of Malcolm.

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  70. Bruce_F16 April 2015 at 21:36

    I think Malcolm feels guilt but all of his emotions are selfish ones. Everything is about him even when it clearly isn't.

    Interesting idea about Malcolm. I don't know how the show would swing it but Malcolm being Demon's Head would be interesting. Although, I'm not sure there would be enough material for him to continue on as a regular next season if that's where they're going with this.

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  71. MeatyStakes16 April 2015 at 22:08

    That sounds like the porn version of Arrow, and someone is most likely already working on that.


    But yeah, with Ollie accepting being Ras, there is bound to be a big goodbye coming, or the urgency of one, so he and Felicity are going to say fuck it, one for the road, and fuck each other.

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  72. Graydon16 April 2015 at 23:21

    True, but he killed Thea and turned the city against Oliver. That's entirely on him.

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  73. JustGotLittUp17 April 2015 at 01:17

    I don't really get why you think it doesn't track if he doesn't commit to the league beforehand. Ra's is playing Oliver and I'm pretty sure Ra's knows that Oliver is going to cave because if Oliver was willing to die for Thea in 309 he'd be willing to become the next heir. Otherwise why would he go to NP? If he didn't want to sacrifice himself for Theas life he would've just stayed in Starling and buried his sister. Ra's is definitely expecting Oliver so why would he make it difficult for Oliver and his crew to get there? For kicks? That doesn't seem like ra's' style.

    Oliver knows what it means to go to NP to save Thea's life. Ra's also knows. Oliver isn't dumb enough to go to NP and say "hey Ra's can you put my sis in Ur jacuzzi so we can bring her back to life and you get nothing in return because you're a good dude".

    So could you enlighten me about why you think it doesn't track? Because it makes no sense to me

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