Damn, it's going down tonight. Roy, I love it when you kick ass. It just puts a big goofy grin on my face. Maseo you SOB, you deserve that arrow in your face, you're lucky Oliver is a changed man.
Once again, where was Diggle? They continue to take the most incompetent one in the field, after repeatedly saying she's not competent while Diggle is probably in the van or something. Makes no sense. The believability is getting a little too thin for me.
WHERE. IS. DIGGLE?! He's a more competent fighter than Laurel. Honestly, she's been training for a week whilst the LoA have been training most of their lives and they can't handle Laurel? No offense, she's becoming a better character, but come on. I can only suspend my beliefs so far.
Are you freaking kidding me? I don't understand the EPs hard-on for masked vigilantes on this show. Team them up? Sure. But at least make it believable
She's being trained by Nyssa so she knows their secret moves. And we saw her being hit and kicked more than the other guys.
Besides why r u just on Laurels case. Roy has less than a year of training.
And!!! What's more believable? Oliver being stabbed and thrown off a cliff and surviving?
Diggle confirmed the last episode he wants to raise his child and be a husband. He wants to live for the both of them. So he won't be risking his life constantly.
Numbers. So many of them that eventually the best would fall. Plus, I think Oliver has to be shown as so much better then them if he's going to be a viable candidate to lead. For Roy and Laurel I'm just going to assume that the two they were fighting against were in their range of fighting level.
Should have shown Roy's growth last year as well.....
Unlike Roy and even Thea we are seeing Laurels growth slowly. Nyssa isn't going anywhere and her and Laurel have scenes coming up. So we may not have seen it YET she IS being trained by Nyssa.
They are taking Diggle out of the picture so come the finale when his 'history' is wiped clean and he becomes John Stewart aka Green Lantern it won't be so jarring for the fan base. ;);)
She's been training with Nyssa for about a week and a day. That's it. And I'm also side eyeing Roy. But at least he's had more training and experience. Diggle should've been there.
And Oliver surviving that cliff isn't appropriate for this conversation because it's not relevant to the video.
'cRaZy' theory John Stewart aka Green Lantern will be Diggle and Lyla's son ( John Stewart Diggle Jr. ) from the future, who travels back in time with team member Rip Hunter. ( David Ramsey will play John Stewart as well as John Diggle in flashbacks .... sadly Diggle will die come seasons end )
Why would Ra's force someone who doesn't want the job to be his heir? If Oliver kills Ra's, how exactly are the LoA going to force him to take the role?
The Speedy/Red Arrow/Arsenal fanboy in me was thrilled to see Roy kick some LoA butt. He did a fantastic....good thing the LoA didn't shoot him with electricity, haha.
"Why would Ra's force someone who doesn't want the job to be his heir?"
He's tried to force Batman to be his heir as well, just not as far as to have him either become the next Ra's or just waste his life away in a prison cell.
Diggle was never going to enter a battlefield unless he was truly needed like in S1 when he had no sidekicks. Go back to "An Innocent Man" where Diggle let Ollie know what kind of role he'd play on Team Arrow.
When this show ever makes sense? Roy learn how to fight in a coma, Sara and Malcolm lean how to fight offscreen. Even the Atom stuff was kind of lame (and I like Ray)
At least Laurel and Thea are getting trained on real time/on screen.
You know, this is a good point. League of Assassins/League of Shadows/Society of Assassins, whatever they've been called on TV and in film, they've never been truly that tough. I think I remember even Batman and Catwoman teaming up against them in B:TAS. The only guy who's actually been tough is Ra's al Ghul, and in Arrow it's no different. Batman even took out six members all by himself in BB.
Actually he's not even that competent compared to Laurel, now. A week or two training with Nyssa, the daughter of Ra's al Ghul, it still better than a soldier who has no comparison when dealing with the League. At least Roy's been trained by Ollie who had some kind of training that resembles the League's fighting style, especially when he uses the bow as a weapon.
Another 'cRaZY' theory What if Caity ( changing her hair color/look ) Lotz will be playing John and Lyla's daughter Sara Diggle, and along with her brother John Stewart Diggle Jr. and team member Rip Hunter all return from ( 2058 ) the future for the spin-off.
He is destined to die now. When he saved Oliver after mid season finale I had hope him and Tatsu would join Oliver against LoA in the end. Now I am counting down to his death.
Oliver can't. Ra's is still too strong and is immortal through the pits. He's Ra's al Ghul he runs a League of Assassins and wants the best man, he doesn't care what others want.
I'm guessing that Diggle is running the COM's because Felicity is in the hospital with Ray. And I think Laurel has been training more than a week. At the wedding last week Ray mentioned that it had been a few weeks since he had seen Oliver so I'm thinking there was a time jump between the last episode and the one before that so Laurel probably has been training for a few weeks. I guess that's how they're going to explain why she can now fight against the LOA.
C'mon Oliver, do it! I really hope he joins and stays with the League going into next season. It would send the show into a completely new direction. Plus, Team Arrow is stacked with people.
Oliver is not surprised. When I rewatched the last episode before Oliver going to attack the impostor Arrows when he was leaving the foundry he thought it was Maseo who was doing it. I think like Slade Wilson Oliver has personal feelings for Maseo. He can't get himself to shoot him. Poor Oliver.
I don't think he's surprised, I think he's offended that Maseo would kill a bunch of innocents to fancy Ra's wishes. I'm curious for the flashbacks... "Shado" is gonna appear tonight, right? Can't wait.
I kind of forgot about "Shado" I wonder how they work that out. Maseo is completely gone now. Poor Oliver all his bros are ending up dead. We need to protect Diggle.
I've heard from a source I trust who heard from Guggenheim that she'll appear. Yeah I liked Ted but I wish he was older and more available as an actor, so we could have gotten the cool father-daughter relationship. Agreed about Tatsu.
I liked Ted too. It's so disappointing two prominent comic book characters got screwed up because of different reasons. Both casting issues. First the Devon Aoki mess with Tatsu and then JRR getting a full time job. Now Rila Fukushima is doing a pilot. IF that gets picked up chances of seeing Katana in full gear next season becomes nill.
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I'm so disappointed at you Maseo... tsc tsc tsc.
ReplyDeleteDamn, it's going down tonight. Roy, I love it when you kick ass. It just puts a big goofy grin on my face. Maseo you SOB, you deserve that arrow in your face, you're lucky Oliver is a changed man.
ReplyDeleteThis whole Ra's/Oliver story is a little silly...
ReplyDeleteOnce again, where was Diggle? They continue to take the most incompetent one in the field, after repeatedly saying she's not competent while Diggle is probably in the van or something. Makes no sense. The believability is getting a little too thin for me.
ReplyDeleteWhy are people afraid of the LOA? They dont seem that tough.
ReplyDeleteWHERE. IS. DIGGLE?! He's a more competent fighter than Laurel. Honestly, she's been training for a week whilst the LoA have been training most of their lives and they can't handle Laurel? No offense, she's becoming a better character, but come on. I can only suspend my beliefs so far.
ReplyDeleteHe is just waiting in the van!
ReplyDeleteAre you freaking kidding me? I don't understand the EPs hard-on for masked vigilantes on this show. Team them up? Sure. But at least make it believable
ReplyDeleteI saw BTS of Diglle for the episode 3x18 in a van.
ReplyDeletein Asian Promo he was on a rooftop as a sniper.
ReplyDeleteRidiculous.
ReplyDeleteI love.this version of Ra's. Best Ra's ever.
ReplyDeleteShe's being trained by Nyssa so she knows their secret moves. And we saw her being hit and kicked more than the other guys.
ReplyDeleteBesides why r u just on Laurels case. Roy has less than a year of training.
And!!! What's more believable? Oliver being stabbed and thrown off a cliff and surviving?
Diggle confirmed the last episode he wants to raise his child and be a husband. He wants to live for the both of them. So he won't be risking his life constantly.
When did Nyssa train her? 3x18 starts when 3x17 left of.
ReplyDeleteNumbers. So many of them that eventually the best would fall. Plus, I think Oliver has to be shown as so much better then them if he's going to be a viable candidate to lead. For Roy and Laurel I'm just going to assume that the two they were fighting against were in their range of fighting level.
ReplyDeleteIts already been said that they dont want him on the field so he doesnt get in danger since he now has a daughter and a wife.
ReplyDeleteShe had a brace the last episode because of the intensity of Nyssa's training.
ReplyDeleteThey should have shown the training.
ReplyDeleteShould have shown Roy's growth last year as well.....
ReplyDeleteUnlike Roy and even Thea we are seeing Laurels growth slowly. Nyssa isn't going anywhere and her and Laurel have scenes coming up. So we may not have seen it YET she IS being trained by Nyssa.
They are taking Diggle out of the picture so come the finale when his 'history' is wiped clean and he becomes John Stewart aka Green Lantern it won't be so jarring for the fan base. ;);)
ReplyDeleteShe's been training with Nyssa for about a week and a day. That's it. And I'm also side eyeing Roy. But at least he's had more training and experience. Diggle should've been there.
ReplyDeleteAnd Oliver surviving that cliff isn't appropriate for this conversation because it's not relevant to the video.
That Laurel double, needs to learn how to walk and not look like she is having a broom stuck up her . . .
ReplyDeleteRa's making his moves! His got the moves like Jagger!
'cRaZy' theory
ReplyDeleteJohn Stewart aka Green Lantern will be Diggle and Lyla's son ( John Stewart Diggle Jr. ) from the future, who travels back in time with team member Rip Hunter.
( David Ramsey will play John Stewart as well as John Diggle in flashbacks .... sadly Diggle will die come seasons end )
That's an understatement. It's just plain stupid.
ReplyDeleteWhy would Ra's force someone who doesn't want the job to be his heir?
If Oliver kills Ra's, how exactly are the LoA going to force him to take the role?
That lasted till Sara died. Since then, he's been out in the field fighting except when they wanted to push Laurel on to the team.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I was just trying to nice about it. Stupid is a better word.
ReplyDeleteJohn Stewart Diggle Jr.
ReplyDeleteThe Speedy/Red Arrow/Arsenal fanboy in me was thrilled to see Roy kick some LoA butt. He did a fantastic....good thing the LoA didn't shoot him with electricity, haha.
ReplyDelete"Why would Ra's force someone who doesn't want the job to be his heir?"
ReplyDeleteHe's tried to force Batman to be his heir as well, just not as far as to have him either become the next Ra's or just waste his life away in a prison cell.
Diggle was never going to enter a battlefield unless he was truly needed like in S1 when he had no sidekicks. Go back to "An Innocent Man" where Diggle let Ollie know what kind of role he'd play on Team Arrow.
ReplyDeleteWhen this show ever makes sense? Roy learn how to fight in a coma, Sara and Malcolm lean how to fight offscreen. Even the Atom stuff was kind of lame (and I like Ray)
ReplyDeleteAt least Laurel and Thea are getting trained on real time/on screen.
Thea's is worst, that wig kills me.
ReplyDeleteYou know, this is a good point. League of Assassins/League of Shadows/Society of Assassins, whatever they've been called on TV and in film, they've never been truly that tough. I think I remember even Batman and Catwoman teaming up against them in B:TAS. The only guy who's actually been tough is Ra's al Ghul, and in Arrow it's no different. Batman even took out six members all by himself in BB.
ReplyDeleteActually he's not even that competent compared to Laurel, now. A week or two training with Nyssa, the daughter of Ra's al Ghul, it still better than a soldier who has no comparison when dealing with the League. At least Roy's been trained by Ollie who had some kind of training that resembles the League's fighting style, especially when he uses the bow as a weapon.
ReplyDeleteDid Maseo bring the B list members of LOA? Otherwise Roy and Laurel shouldn't be able to hold their own against them...
ReplyDeleteAnother 'cRaZY' theory
ReplyDeleteWhat if Caity ( changing her hair color/look ) Lotz will be playing John and Lyla's daughter Sara Diggle, and along with her brother John Stewart Diggle Jr. and team member Rip Hunter all return from ( 2058 ) the future for the spin-off.
Diggle and Lyla's baby has darker skinned than Sara.
ReplyDeleteTrue but her skin color could lighten ( it happens ) as she gets older.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yahoo.com/tv/flash-arrow-spinoff-what-we-know-115211850085.html
ReplyDeleteI would be pissed if they make a mixed race character played by a white actress.
ReplyDeleteSo if they show this great fight as sneak peek what does the balance of the show entail? Its going to be crazy. I am ready.
ReplyDeleteYou're the one focused on what's believable so if u want to talk about believable then u should have a fault in Olivers survival.
ReplyDeleteDiggle is NOT going to be there. He has a wife and kid now.
Doesn't matter how long. Nyssa has taught her secrets to the leagues moves. She isn't defeating the leagu . Shes simply holding her own.
He is destined to die now. When he saved Oliver after mid season finale I had hope him and Tatsu would join Oliver against LoA in the end. Now I am counting down to his death.
ReplyDeleteHe'll die redeeming himself. It'll be cool.
ReplyDeleteI'm just guessing but maybe Diggle is on the coms since Felicity is probably in the hospital with Ray.
ReplyDeleteOliver can't. Ra's is still too strong and is immortal through the pits. He's Ra's al Ghul he runs a League of Assassins and wants the best man, he doesn't care what others want.
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing that Diggle is running the COM's because Felicity is in the hospital with Ray. And I think Laurel has been training more than a week. At the wedding last week Ray mentioned that it had been a few weeks since he had seen Oliver so I'm thinking there was a time jump between the last episode and the one before that so Laurel probably has been training for a few weeks. I guess that's how they're going to explain why she can now fight against the LOA.
ReplyDeleteDamn Laurel's getting better. I hope we get a Nyssa training scene soon.
ReplyDeleteWell compared to Oliver and his merry men they only have numbers. But to everyone else man it's a curbstomp.
ReplyDeleteRa's man, you are trying to hard.
ReplyDeleteOr Caity could go black face, lol. Kidding of course.
ReplyDeleteSame! Also, the way Oliver pointed the arrow looked really personal, don't you think? I think he feels betrayed.
ReplyDeleteof course .... or just start tanning.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Oliver, do it! I really hope he joins and stays with the League going into next season. It would send the show into a completely new direction. Plus, Team Arrow is stacked with people.
ReplyDeleteOliver is not surprised. When I rewatched the last episode before Oliver going to attack the impostor Arrows when he was leaving the foundry he thought it was Maseo who was doing it. I think like Slade Wilson Oliver has personal feelings for Maseo. He can't get himself to shoot him. Poor Oliver.
ReplyDeleteDo you think we will see Tatsu in current times in the coming episodes? I had high hopes for Tatsu and Ted Grant. Both ended up being luke warm.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's surprised, I think he's offended that Maseo would kill a bunch of innocents to fancy Ra's wishes.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious for the flashbacks... "Shado" is gonna appear tonight, right? Can't wait.
I kind of forgot about "Shado" I wonder how they work that out. Maseo is completely gone now. Poor Oliver all his bros are ending up dead. We need to protect Diggle.
ReplyDeleteTommy, Slade and now Maseo, it's so messed up
ReplyDeleteMaseo WHAT THE HELL?!!!!! he protected your son and now you want to kill him?!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletedo you realize that Nyssa is inadvertently fighting against her father by training Laurel?
ReplyDeleteTommy, Slade, Maseo - Three guys he loved like a brother
ReplyDeleteShado, Sara - Two women he loved
Moira, Robert - his parents
He has such a bad luck. No wonder he has identity crisis.
I've heard from a source I trust who heard from Guggenheim that she'll appear. Yeah I liked Ted but I wish he was older and more available as an actor, so we could have gotten the cool father-daughter relationship. Agreed about Tatsu.
ReplyDeleteThat's part of the beauty of it. Hell I hope Nyssa realizes it. Hey Dad's an asshole.
ReplyDeleteand still walking around
ReplyDeleteRoy has known how to fight since season 1
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteShe's not half black. And that could be very bad place to go.
ReplyDeleteI liked Ted too. It's so disappointing two prominent comic book characters got screwed up because of different reasons. Both casting issues. First the Devon Aoki mess with Tatsu and then JRR getting a full time job. Now Rila Fukushima is doing a pilot. IF that gets picked up chances of seeing Katana in full gear next season becomes nill.
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