This may be Damon's most harebrained scheme yet. Normally Damon's ideas border on crazy but make some semblance of sense. This does not. Not even close.
Stefan has an equally bad success rate. His plans usually revolve too much around hope and faith. They're equally bad just for different reasons. C'mon. The guy just supposedly flipped his own switch thinking that it would help Caroline somehow.
I have a feeling that Damon's answer to all her prayers is trapping Kai in 1903, while they escape with Lily. I wonder what that would mean for the Gemini Coven, though. I like Kai, but I wouldn't be upset to see him go.
Stefan flipped the switch in an attempt to save Sarah and get Caroline to stop trying to kill her not to help Caroline. I'd say Stefan's plans are usually better but not a ton. Usually because he unlike Damon has some tact.
Yeah, the way Damon sweet-talks stuff to Bonnie is quite entertaining. She got to know him and trusts him a lot. I hope Damon will take Bonnie's side over Elena's, would be fun to watch.
Stefan's good at making decisions right away but masterminding big plans...not so much. Plans usually don't fall on him either as it's usually fall on Damon or at least he helps in the plan. Damon's plans are crazy, yes, but he usually does get good results or at least wins them some points. The downside is that they always have collateral damage that comes from lack of...caring. Others either lack the capacity to plan sth (Elena and Jeremy, anyone?!) or simply offer ideas (Stefan)
True but lets remember that after this weeks episode there is only 5 more episodes this season and next season Chris ( Kai ) Wood is joining Julie's new show Cordon so it sort of makes sense for his exit to happen before the finale.
If Stefan and Damon's mom is a dangerous ripper what's to stop her from killing more innocent people when she gets out of the prison world? She could have the opposite affect on Stefan and they could join forces and kill people together. I see the flaws in this plan and as for Kai I think Damon's planing to get rid of him for him for good to make things right with Bonnie by trapping him in the prison world when he gets his mom out or just killing him.
Well I'm glad to see they're at least talking, LOL. I love the Bonnie and Damon scenes. Trapping Kai in another prison world would definitely be a way to get rid of him without killing him (and the entire Gemini coven), so I wouldn't be surprised if that was Damon's plan. It's too bad, though. Kai's presence actually makes the show better.
Why is Damon talking about getting his mom out of the prison world?! I know it's mom but Kai was right - Damon's in denial. Never mind mom being Stefan's trigger (about which I have my doubts), isn't she still a Ripper? Does Damon not believe that? He used to kill everybody; now he's trying to save/fix everybody, all in one fell swoop. How can this end well - there are too many things that can go wrong. It's Murphy's Law.
So are we just trading 1 big bad for another? Lily comes out of the prison world Kai goes in and we now have a new complicated villain in the Salvatore brothers mother. I wonder if she will be as crazy and manipulative as Ester? And what if Stefan is Lily's trigger? She gets out and Stefan, Caroline and Lily go on a ripper killing spree?
Caroline's not a Ripper, it's really annoying when people think that just because a vampire turns off their humanity they're automatically a Ripper. Yeah it seems like Kai is officially off the Big Bad roster
Now I'm thinking maybe I don't understand this trigger thing and I definitely don't get Damon's "domino effect" plan. How can Lily who turned off HER humanity - or else she wouldn't have been a ripper, right - trigger Stefan to turn HIS humanity back on? (Whether or not Stefan was faking it or not, we know what will happen after he tastes human blood.) Is Damon assuming Lily's got her humanity back? If not, who's going to trigger HER? How can he bring this woman back into the real world given her history? He probably inherited his compulsiveness from her, so good luck in controlling her - it won't happen. Oh, the drama!
"Lily comes out of the prison world Kai goes in and we now have a new complicated villain in the Salvatore brothers mother."
You mean that they may want to imprison Kai instead of Lily? I don't think that would work - Kai is the leader of the Gemini coven now, he's in control of the prison world...
Right? LOL... As much as I've loved the clip, Damon doesn't make sense (at least based on the clip only), like at all - so he's planning to trigger Stefan's humanity by his mother that Damon just thinks is his trigger, mother who has probably turned of her humanity as well... all of that so Stefan can then turn on Caroline's humanity (because that went so well the last time... )... and in the process he's planning to trap Kai in the prison world, the prison world that Kai is in control of now as a Gemini coven leader? Flawless plan, Damon!
And about having something that's going to answer all of Bonnie's prayers - first, imprisoning Kai doesn't look like a good idea, second - she has a PTSD, dummy! You can look it up on wikipedia! She doesn't need to just get rid of Kai in some highly risky and stressful plan, she needs to be able to relax for a while and have someone she trusts to talk to, that is what you can do for her. There is no quick fix - also I'm sure your pancakes might help :P
We don't know if Lily turned off her humanity. A vampire can be a ripper without turning off his humanity. Remember Stefan in the beginning of season 3? His emotions weren't off up until 3x05 but he was still a ripper before then. Damon once said Stefan felt "guilty" after ripping his victims off so he put them back together. Sot hat implies he had his emotions... Damon probably thinks the mere sight of their mother - as a person to whom Stefan is strongly attached to- after almost 150 years might be trigger for Stefan. IF Stefan turns his emotions back on, then he can try to turn Caroline's on as both Stefan and Caroline implied he is her emotional trigger. Damon's plans isn't impossible...it just depends on too many ifs. If one of key ingredients doesn't happen, the rest of the plan gets royally screwed up.
Thank you! Like you said, Kai is now in charge of the prison worlds so how could he be imprisoned there? Also I keep wondering who's running the Gemini Coven, but I'm not sorry Kai is still with us even if it make no sense. Even Kai-lite is kind of fun and Chris is so nice to look at, especially with his new facial hair.
You're so right; you can't cure PTSD by getting rid of the torturer. But you know Damon, he's got to act - and regret later. He's always been the one who tries to solve problems, for better or worse. I feel like I want to say to him, "Don't screw this up!"
I do love your remark about him making pancakes for Bonnie. It couldn't hurt! What does :P symbolize, BTW?
Good point about Stefan once being a ripper while having his humanity! I've somehow forgotten that... Still, if I was Lily and was locked away in a prison world, completely alone, for about 100 years, then I would definitely want to turn off my emotions... not that it proves anything :)
You're right, I had forgotten. I guess Stefan is just naturally a ripper. What a bummer for a vampire - needing blood and being unable to control it. But as you said there are just too many things that can go wrong - if one part fails...
This! Every word of this! :) I can't fathom how they can consider putting Kai into the prison world. Like I get the importance of Bonnie's blood and magic when it comes to the prison worlds, but it has been estabilished that it's Kai who is holding the prison world together, that's why Bonnie kept flicking between the two worlds when Kai was sick and then got Jo's magic (at least if I understood correctly). And like you remarked, his newly changed personality (or hotter looks :D ) don't change anything about it...
That's very true about Damon, it must be a lot easier for him to deal with problems by making some dangerous plots and actions then just deal with emotional side of the thing...
Thank you! :) Well, ":P" means speaking in a teasing/joking manner, as far as I know :)
Remember those times when the ship wars were basically about whether you're "team stelena" or "team delena"? Nowadays it's more like "are you team delena, stelena, steroline, bamon, klaroline... ?" :D
See, now that's a possibility. She "might" have turned it off. But then she might not have. And in TVD, they always risk everything to prove the validation of a possibility no matter how much damage they're gonna gonna cause. So the plan this time isn't exactly crazier than before, only the possibilities are too much. God help them...Things are gonna get messed up to a degree anyway.LOL
HE'S NOT RIPPER!! God! I wish people would stop saying that!! Ripper Stefan and Humanity-less Stefan are two different people!!!!! (takes a breath) AND I was not looking for a Steroline clip. I wanted to see a Damon and Kai, or Bonnie and Kai, OR Stefan and Damon clip.
I have the same impression about why Bonnie jumped to the 1903 prison world. And for sure Damon would much rather act than feel. Finding out about his mom literally made him collapse. The next thing we know, he's got a plan! And thanks, now I can add :P to my comments sometimes!
No. I'm talking about Bonnie's willingness to even have a discussion with Damon after the dick move he pulled in last week's episode. Before their incarceration together, there's no way in hell she even lets him in the door.
Well - it appears that Kai is now in the prison world - but I do agree he should be able to get himself out. Kai appears to always be 1 step ahead - I am sure he predicted that Bonnie would double cross him.
Well Stefan's bad habits appear to be influencing Caroline - only hope is for Lily to help Stefan gain his humanity and Stefan to help Caroline - domino effect - and not the other way around - Caroline/Stefan to convince Lily to turn her humanity off.
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Hold on a second, what prayers? WHAT PRAYERS?
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I love their scenes together! Amazingly done!
ReplyDeleteReally intriguing. Can't wait for Thursday!
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ReplyDeleteThis may be Damon's most harebrained scheme yet. Normally Damon's ideas border on crazy but make some semblance of sense. This does not. Not even close.
ReplyDeleteBonnie was thining on egtting a knife cutting ehrself and give ehr blood and be done with Kai. lol
ReplyDeleteI agree. It depends on too many 'if's.
ReplyDeleteIf only this dude was half as wise as he was intelligent...the wisdom is apparently all in Stefan.
Stefan has an equally bad success rate. His plans usually revolve too much around hope and faith. They're equally bad just for different reasons. C'mon. The guy just supposedly flipped his own switch thinking that it would help Caroline somehow.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling that Damon's answer to all her prayers is trapping Kai in 1903, while they escape with Lily. I wonder what that would mean for the Gemini Coven, though. I like Kai, but I wouldn't be upset to see him go.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting to see Damon's seemingly growing influence on Bonnie. I only hope it's a two-way street and that we see a similar effect on Damon.
ReplyDeleteStefan flipped the switch in an attempt to save Sarah and get Caroline to stop trying to kill her not to help Caroline. I'd say Stefan's plans are usually better but not a ton. Usually because he unlike Damon has some tact.
ReplyDeleteTact, to my knowledge, has never been the lynchpin of a working plan on this show.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the way Damon sweet-talks stuff to Bonnie is quite entertaining. She got to know him and trusts him a lot. I hope Damon will take Bonnie's side over Elena's, would be fun to watch.
ReplyDeleteStefan's good at making decisions right away but masterminding big plans...not so much. Plans usually don't fall on him either as it's usually fall on Damon or at least he helps in the plan. Damon's plans are crazy, yes, but he usually does get good results or at least wins them some points. The downside is that they always have collateral damage that comes from lack of...caring. Others either lack the capacity to plan sth (Elena and Jeremy, anyone?!) or simply offer ideas (Stefan)
ReplyDeleteHasn't she already made an influence? This season, Damon seems way more...tamed than usual.
ReplyDeleteMaybe. I'm not sure you can attribute all of that to Bonnie but it's likely that's part of it.
ReplyDeleteLmao! And here I thought the show had already reached its heights of ship teasing. XD
ReplyDeleteWhichever way this goes down, there's going to be BLOOD. Can't wait!
oh crap what the heck is Damon up.. and I'm super intrigued about what he said.... stick with me..I might be the answer to all your problems...
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ReplyDeleteGetting rid of Kai Parker once and for all.
ReplyDelete( Damon is likely planning to leave Kai trapped in 1the 903 prison world )
yeah but that would way to easy getting rid of him
ReplyDeleteTrue but lets remember that after this weeks episode there is only 5 more episodes this season and next season Chris ( Kai ) Wood is joining Julie's new show Cordon so it sort of makes sense for his exit to happen before the finale.
ReplyDeleteYeah no character is every really tactful just either has none or a minor sum of it.
ReplyDeleteUghhhh, so not the clip i wanted. But i'll take it.
ReplyDeleteExactly.With Jalaric's wedding coming up around episode 20(just a rough guess),i say she will kill before then!
ReplyDeleteIf Stefan and Damon's mom is a dangerous ripper what's to stop her from killing more innocent people when she gets out of the prison world? She could have the opposite affect on Stefan and they could join forces and kill people together. I see the flaws in this plan and as for Kai I think Damon's planing to get rid of him for him for good to make things right with Bonnie by trapping him in the prison world when he gets his mom out or just killing him.
ReplyDeleteooh nice, very very nice
ReplyDeleteeesh two Rippers together out in the world, very scary
ReplyDeleteWell I'm glad to see they're at least talking, LOL. I love the Bonnie and Damon scenes. Trapping Kai in another prison world would definitely be a way to get rid of him without killing him (and the entire Gemini coven), so I wouldn't be surprised if that was Damon's plan. It's too bad, though. Kai's presence actually makes the show better.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad they're getting rid of the character,i really thought Julie will pull another Klaus on this one!
ReplyDeleteWhereas bad things seem to drag on forever in this show!
ReplyDeleteI watch all the shows on CW anyway,so it wouldn't have mattered to me either way.LOL!
ReplyDeleteWhy is Damon talking about getting his mom out of the prison world?! I know it's mom but Kai was right - Damon's in denial. Never mind mom being Stefan's trigger (about which I have my doubts), isn't she still a Ripper? Does Damon not believe that? He used to kill everybody; now he's trying to save/fix everybody, all in one fell swoop. How can this end well - there are too many things that can go wrong. It's Murphy's Law.
ReplyDeleteSo are we just trading 1 big bad for another? Lily comes out of the prison world Kai goes in and we now have a new complicated villain in the Salvatore brothers mother. I wonder if she will be as crazy and manipulative as Ester? And what if Stefan is Lily's trigger? She gets out and Stefan, Caroline and Lily go on a ripper killing spree?
ReplyDeleteCaroline's not a Ripper, it's really annoying when people think that just because a vampire turns off their humanity they're automatically a Ripper. Yeah it seems like Kai is officially off the Big Bad roster
ReplyDeleteyou know they're saving the Ripper and Caroline, it'll probably be up Thursday before the episode
ReplyDeleteNow I'm thinking maybe I don't understand this trigger thing and I definitely don't get Damon's "domino effect" plan. How can Lily who turned off HER humanity - or else she wouldn't have been a ripper, right - trigger Stefan to turn HIS humanity back on? (Whether or not Stefan was faking it or not, we know what will happen after he tastes human blood.) Is Damon assuming Lily's got her humanity back? If not, who's going to trigger HER? How can he bring this woman back into the real world given her history? He probably inherited his compulsiveness from her, so good luck in controlling her - it won't happen. Oh, the drama!
ReplyDelete"Lily comes out of the prison world Kai goes in and we now have a new complicated villain in the Salvatore brothers mother."
ReplyDeleteYou mean that they may want to imprison Kai instead of Lily? I don't think that would work - Kai is the leader of the Gemini coven now, he's in control of the prison world...
Right? LOL... As much as I've loved the clip, Damon doesn't make sense (at least based on the clip only), like at all - so he's planning to trigger Stefan's humanity by his mother that Damon just thinks is his trigger, mother who has probably turned of her humanity as well... all of that so Stefan can then turn on Caroline's humanity (because that went so well the last time... )... and in the process he's planning to trap Kai in the prison world, the prison world that Kai is in control of now as a Gemini coven leader? Flawless plan, Damon!
ReplyDeleteAnd about having something that's going to answer all of Bonnie's prayers - first, imprisoning Kai doesn't look like a good idea, second - she has a PTSD, dummy! You can look it up on wikipedia! She doesn't need to just get rid of Kai in some highly risky and stressful plan, she needs to be able to relax for a while and have someone she trusts to talk to, that is what you can do for her. There is no quick fix - also I'm sure your pancakes might help :P
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We don't know if Lily turned off her humanity. A vampire can be a ripper without turning off his humanity. Remember Stefan in the beginning of season 3? His emotions weren't off up until 3x05 but he was still a ripper before then. Damon once said Stefan felt "guilty" after ripping his victims off so he put them back together. Sot hat implies he had his emotions...
ReplyDeleteDamon probably thinks the mere sight of their mother - as a person to whom Stefan is strongly attached to- after almost 150 years might be trigger for Stefan. IF Stefan turns his emotions back on, then he can try to turn Caroline's on as both Stefan and Caroline implied he is her emotional trigger. Damon's plans isn't impossible...it just depends on too many ifs. If one of key ingredients doesn't happen, the rest of the plan gets royally screwed up.
Thank you! Like you said, Kai is now in charge of the prison worlds so how could he be imprisoned there? Also I keep wondering who's running the Gemini Coven, but I'm not sorry Kai is still with us even if it make no sense. Even Kai-lite is kind of fun and Chris is so nice to look at, especially with his new facial hair.
ReplyDeleteYou're so right; you can't cure PTSD by getting rid of the torturer. But you know Damon, he's got to act - and regret later. He's always been the one who tries to solve problems, for better or worse. I feel like I want to say to him, "Don't screw this up!"
I do love your remark about him making pancakes for Bonnie. It couldn't hurt! What does :P symbolize, BTW?
Good point about Stefan once being a ripper while having his humanity! I've somehow forgotten that...
ReplyDeleteStill, if I was Lily and was locked away in a prison world, completely alone, for about 100 years, then I would definitely want to turn off my emotions... not that it proves anything :)
You're right, I had forgotten. I guess Stefan is just naturally a ripper. What a bummer for a vampire - needing blood and being unable to control it. But as you said there are just too many things that can go wrong - if one part fails...
ReplyDeleteYeah she might have turned them off - I think I would. We all have so many good ideas but the writers didn't consult us!
ReplyDeleteThis! Every word of this! :) I can't fathom how they can consider putting Kai into the prison world. Like I get the importance of Bonnie's blood and magic when it comes to the prison worlds, but it has been estabilished that it's Kai who is holding the prison world together, that's why Bonnie kept flicking between the two worlds when Kai was sick and then got Jo's magic (at least if I understood correctly). And like you remarked, his newly changed personality (or hotter looks :D ) don't change anything about it...
ReplyDeleteThat's very true about Damon, it must be a lot easier for him to deal with problems by making some dangerous plots and actions then just deal with emotional side of the thing...
Thank you! :) Well, ":P" means speaking in a teasing/joking manner, as far as I know :)
True. Oh my, I can't wait for the episode...
ReplyDeleteRemember those times when the ship wars were basically about whether you're "team stelena" or "team delena"? Nowadays it's more like "are you team delena, stelena, steroline, bamon, klaroline... ?" :D
ReplyDeleteSee, now that's a possibility. She "might" have turned it off. But then she might not have. And in TVD, they always risk everything to prove the validation of a possibility no matter how much damage they're gonna gonna cause. So the plan this time isn't exactly crazier than before, only the possibilities are too much. God help them...Things are gonna get messed up to a degree anyway.LOL
ReplyDeleteHE'S NOT RIPPER!! God! I wish people would stop saying that!! Ripper Stefan and Humanity-less Stefan are two different people!!!!! (takes a breath) AND I was not looking for a Steroline clip. I wanted to see a Damon and Kai, or Bonnie and Kai, OR Stefan and Damon clip.
ReplyDeleteI have the same impression about why Bonnie jumped to the 1903 prison world. And for sure Damon would much rather act than feel. Finding out about his mom literally made him collapse. The next thing we know, he's got a plan! And thanks, now I can add :P to my comments sometimes!
ReplyDeleteI'm not really feeling that new show he's gonna be on
ReplyDeleteI hope it going to be good
Wait are you talking about the attitude Bonnie exhibited last episode? Cause I think that was just PTSD.
ReplyDeleteNo. I'm talking about Bonnie's willingness to even have a discussion with Damon after the dick move he pulled in last week's episode. Before their incarceration together, there's no way in hell she even lets him in the door.
ReplyDeleteI do quite enjoy their newfound friendship. Especially it's effect on Damon.
ReplyDeleteWell - it appears that Kai is now in the prison world - but I do agree he should be able to get himself out. Kai appears to always be 1 step ahead - I am sure he predicted that Bonnie would double cross him.
ReplyDeleteWell Stefan's bad habits appear to be influencing Caroline - only hope is for Lily to help Stefan gain his humanity and Stefan to help Caroline - domino effect - and not the other way around - Caroline/Stefan to convince Lily to turn her humanity off.
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