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Once Upon a Time - Darkness on the Edge of Town - Review

Mar 3, 2015

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Well, we are back and better than ever! After a nice little vacation, Once Upon a Time came back in fine form. Things have certainly thawed out after the Frozen arc and are getting darker by the second. I know in past reviews I talked about how the show has been really getting back to its season one roots with the mystery and slower, less chaotic story arcs, but this episode felt the most like season one than any new episode has. We’ve slipped back into the Storybrooke rhythm where the threats to everyone’s happy ends are more internal, even with the arrival of some new villains on the scene. “Darkness on the Edge of Town has set us up for some truly great twists and turns. I love the idea of the Queens of Darkness integrating themselves in the town and the Storybrookian’s lives, trying steal their happy endings from the inside out. Once again we see Rumpelstiltskin playing the long game as well as ever and these new villainesses are stealing the spotlight for me, in a good way of course. I was worried they would be too campy, but the sass is leveled out with just a hint of the sinister, just enough to give them an edge that will make things interesting. And speaking of interesting, Snow White and Charming harboring dark secrets is something I am so ready to see on Once Upon a Time.

The episode opens back in the Enchanted Forest and more specifically the Forbidden Fortress where Maleficent resides. Ursula arrives in all her be-tentacled glory, only Maleficent doesn’t know who she is. The pair get into a scuffle with Ursula insisting that she was invited even though Maleficent didn’t summon her. I like the look of both characters, though I probably would have preferred if Once Upon a Time stuck with Maleficent’s look from season one. To me, that really made this version of Maleficent the show’s own. The sea witch and the dragon queen’s fight is interrupted by a pair of Rottweilers bounding into the room, followed shortly thereafter by Cruella De Vil. I’ve said it before; this is the character that intrigues me the most. In her original incarnation, Cruella was without magical powers, so I wondered what the Once Upon a Time twist would be with her character. It seems that this Cruella holds a magical form of persuasion that manifests itself in an eerie green smoke permeating from her lips. I like that this is a nod to the ever present cigarette holder Cruella had in the Disney version and am interested to see how she acquired these powers. The Queens of Darkness continue to be antagonistic towards each other until Rumpelstiltskin reveals himself, claiming responsibility for inviting the trio here. The Dark One has summoned the Queens of Darkness because all four of them share one thing in common; that it’s time to get their happy endings.

In current day Storybrooke, we get slice of life scenes from all our favorite protagonists. We see Henry going to school in Snow White’s class, Regina once more taking up the mantle of mayor and doing a little “redecorating”, Emma out sherrif-ing, and Belle opening up the library. All of this is the heart of Once Upon a Time, the idea of community and family and all of your favorite fairy tale characters under one roof, or in one town rather. The pawn shop, however, stands mournfully closed during this montage and we see Hook and Belle in the library working on ways, with the help of a trusty pin board that looks like it could be from an episode of Criminal Minds, to free the trapped fairies from the Sorcerer’s Hat. Hook is frustrated that no solution has been found and you can see the guilt he feels for his actions. Belle, however, is more optimistic. The librarian has been reaching out via the internet for translations to ancient spells that may prove helpful. The pair discuss how Rumple got the best of both of them and in a way, had a hold on both their hearts. I like the metaphor mixing with the actual events regarding this. Hook does admit that Rumpelstiltskin was right, that love is a weapon and I wonder if that will come into play later in the season, not only for Belle and the Dark One, but Hook and Emma too. Belle and Hook being so friendly is a bit odd considering their rocky history, but they are the only two people who have known Rumpelstiltskin the longest so this is possibly what they have been bonding over. And while Hook assures the librarian that her husband did love her, Belle’s voice cracks when she states that he’s gone forever, wishing out loud that she hopes he’s found whatever it was he was looking for.

Apparently that something was lunch, for skip to New York and see Rumpelstiltskin wearing a ratty bathrobe in the middle of dingy apartment, microwaving ramen noodles. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I am highly amused at the idea of the Dark One couch surfing and more so at the fact that he appears to be a rotten house guest, as Ursula comes home and sasses the imp with the limp about how he is all talk, hanging about eating the last of her cup o’ noodles and seeming to make no progress. They continue to bicker and I love it. What is it about fairy tale characters in mundane situations that we love so much? Amidst their bickering Rumple reminds Ursula that she is lucky their goals are aligned. The Dark One then gets an email, one he appears to be expecting and proclaims it’s time to visit an old friend.

Hop over to Long Island and a mansion that looks like it is being raided by the FBI. This home belongs, or rather belonged to Cruella De Vil, and I would bet good money Rumpelstiltskin blew the whistle on whatever Cruella’s husband was up to just to get Cruella at her lowest so she’d be more receptive to the imp’s proposal. It’s interesting that Cruella makes a point to grab one of her fur coats from a rack being carted away, snarling at the agent who was about to stop her that it was “from before”. Could her magic be tied to this garment? Whatever the case is, Cruella is fiercely protective of that coat. Rumpelstiltskin and Ursula saunter up, with the former asking Cruella to join their cause and regain her former glory. There is an allusion to a rocky last meeting, but once again Rumple emphasizes that their interests are aligned. Cruella reveals her car, which just looks like money, though Rumple is quick to tell her that if she emptily pursues material wealth again, she’s be right back where she started. Cruella is incensed, proclaiming she will never go back to that state. This is screaming “back story” to me and I’ll bet right now Cruella De Vil started off in a low place if her entire being revolves around material wealth. Rumpelstiltskin, who has been careful to only give out bits and pieces of his plan, reveals that there is indeed magic in this land thought to be without, you just have to know where to look. The Dark One knows these queens don’t trust him, but he convinces them to leave for Storybrooke.

What we get next had me laughing long after the scene ended. We see Cruella, Rumpelstiltskin, and Ursula crammed in the De Vil-mobile. Rumple explains about the Author and The Book, about how this creator seems to dole out happy endings as he sees fit and is the key to forging new endings for them. The queens remain skeptical and then it’s shown that they aren’t sitting in traffic, as it appeared when the scene began; no, these villains are going through the drive thru before their big road trip to Storybrooke. How can something so ridiculous be so entertaining? I should be criticizing this little addition, and yet I feel as if it’s something I didn’t know I wanted until it was right in front of me.

Back in Storybrooke, we see Regina in the mayor’s office, pouring over The Book for clues. Emma brings her lunch and jokes a bit. I find myself warming up more to the idea of friendship between these two. A scene like this one seems so natural. Regina’s sarcasm is intact, but she’s not outright antagonizing Emma. The Evil Queen remains despondent over the fact that her search for the Author isn’t turning up any results, and that depression only grows when Emma, on the hunt for a bottle opener for their root beers, rifles through a drawer in the office and discovers the storybook page of Regina and Robin that was ripped up at the town line. Mayor Mills reluctantly explains to Emma how Robin mysteriously found the page and that she thought it was a sign of hope. That things would finally work out.

Regina has repaired the page interestingly enough without magic as you can see it held together with tape. Does magic not work on The Book? Or, that could just be a visual cue for the audience to tell them that Regina saved the destroyed page. Whichever interpretation, the fact that Regina held on to the page signifies that no matter what she says, in her heart she still has hope. The mayor hasn’t heard from Robin Hood and even saying his name makes her sound incredibly sad. However, Regina can’t dwell on this for long as Hook and Belle race into the mayoral office. They found a translation, or rather an internet contact of Belle’s did, to an ancient ceremony that would free the fairies from the Sorcerer’s hat. And for such powerful magic, they need Regina’s expertise.

Jump to a clearing in the Storybrooke woods, where torches have been lit and the hatbox brought out. Regina uses the Dark One dagger to open the hat bombastically, releasing the shaken fairies into the clearing. Mother Blueperior seems to be especially nervous and almost reluctant to thank the mayor. And speaking of Regina, she appears disturbed by the power that came forth from the Dark One’s dagger. I wonder if there will be other opportunities to wield this object and what they could mean for the Evil Queen. And since everyone is distracted, no one, fairy or otherwise, notices an ominous black cloud oozing from out of the hatbox. Well, it’s been six weeks without a monster on the loose, I’d say the town is due.

Flashback to the Enchanted Forest where an evil pow-wow is taking place. Rumpelstiltskin shares that he knows of a way for he and his fellow villains to get what they want, to win for once, and that they must work together to achieve this. This is very similar to what Rumple is scheming towards in the present day, only it looks as if he isn’t holding every card. And the Queens of Darkness prove to be formidable allies, women you want on your side of the fight, as an annoyed Cruella gets right up in Rumple’s face, revealing the steel behind the sarcasm. But Rumple is still running the show and tells his allies that what they are looking for is not a spell to get their happy ending, but a curse. A dark curse.

So, Rumpelstiltskin and company travel to Bald Mountain, where a number of challenges block their path to their prize. The first of which is a hoard of blood-thirsty scarabs that Cruella dismisses with her green-tinged “power of persuasion”. Ursula displays some magnificent eye rolling behind Cruella’s back as the fur-clad femme fatale swaggers into the next chamber. Allies yes, friends, no. The new chamber reveals the curse on a pedestal, surrounded by dragon’s fire. Dousing the flames is a simple task for Maleficent to complete and the effects look wonderful here. Finally, Ursula snatches the curse off the pedestal with her tentacles. I think Once Upon a Time made the right choice in incorporating Ursula’s tentacles the way they did and I like that they are used more often. The CGI is also continuing with the upward trend in quality that we’ve seen since the end of season 3, so it’s great to see more of the effects.

Speaking of special effects, the removal of the curse has triggered a final threat, the mountain’s guardian, Chernabog. This demon is most famously known for his role as nightmare fuel from Disney’s Fantasia. In the world of Once Upon a Time, Chernabog is a demon who seeks out the heart of those with the greatest potential for darkness and devours them. Effectively, Rumpelstiltskin just delivered a buffet to the demon’s doorstep. The way Chernabog was brought on the show is much better than the broomsticks from season 4A in my option. It’s more of a nod and a wink as opposed to a direct reference, a “hey look, this is Disney”, but that could be due to the fact that a creature like Chernabog just seems to fit in better on Once Upon a Time. The Dark One turns on his heel and betrays his former allies, leaving them to deal with the demon alone. My question is whether or not the curse retrieved is the number one Dark Curse, the one responsible for Storybrooke. If so, do you think we’ll see how Maleficent ends up getting it back from Rumple?

Back in present day Storybrooke, we find the De Vil-mobile screeching to a halt right outside the town line. Rumple has left a marker to note the spot where the enchanted town line begins and explains to the queens how Storybrooke is magically hidden. Again, the queens are skeptical, so much so that Cruella pulls out a gun and threatens Rumple. I like that these women have no time for his empty promises and are getting things done, but it does seem that the Dark One has been stringing them a long a bit. Ursula and Cruella must truly be unsettled and desire those happy endings if they are still entertaining what Rumplestilskin has to say. I think Rumple knows he is really gambling here too since he looks rather uneasy, like his gambit might not work. Also, Ursula’s comment that they could be dragged into the scheme because of “a girl” seems to be an emotional blow to the Dark One. Rumple once again asks the queens to trust him saying he has a way of getting them invited into town.

Meanwhile, past the protected town line, there is a party at Granny’s going on I assume to welcome back the missing fairies. And even though it’s a party, the Blue Fairy can be seen sitting off by herself, looking rather tense. If you’ve read my reviews before you know that I am eternally suspicious of the Blue Fairy, so this is just adding fuel to the fire for me. Regina approaches, having been prodded forward by Henry. Both the nun and the mayor seem awkward and reluctant. This is one of the few relationships that hasn’t called a definite truce in Storybrooke. Blue always seems so aloof around the villains and I wonder why that is.

Anyway, Regina shows Mother Blueperior The Book and Blue seems almost shaken to her core to see the tome, especially when she learns that the Sorcerer’s house is also in Storybrooke. Despite claiming to not know much, Mother Blueperior does give up quite a few tidbits of knowledge. She confirms that The Book has great power and that Regina’s plan to have the Author change her story isn’t a crazy as it sounds. Blue also explains an important detail; the Author and the Sorcerer are not the same person. In fact they are two very different people according to Blue. But Blue doesn’t know the identity of the Author, or if “he is a ‘he’” which makes me think that Blue knows more than she’s letting on. That’s an oddly specific admission. Mother Blueperior believes there are clues to the Author’s whereabouts hidden in his other works, but before we can get more details on the existence of other magical story books, a roar bellows throughout the town. Regina mutters a quip about the falling property values and out heroes rush to investigate, finding none other than Chernabog perched atop the iconic clock tower.

Flashback to the Enchanted Forest where we find the Queens of Darkness in a similar situation. Their alliance is uneasy; no one want’s to put their lives in the hands of the others. However, they seem to come to an agreement and step forward to allow Chernabog to go after the queen with the darkest heart, leaving the other two the freedom to escape and then rescue the third. Chernabog choses to go after Maleficent, which is important to note should alliances between either Ursula or Cruella and our heroes land on the table. Maleficent fights off Chernabog while Ursula and Cruella climb to safety. The dragon queen isn’t doing so well and is almost consumed by Chernabog before a swift green tentacle snakes down and reels Maleficent up to safety. Despite working together to best the beast, the three are still antagonistic to each other. It’s entertaining, but also causes me to wonder if this inherent mistrust could be a way to defeat the queens by turning them against each other.

In present day Storybrooke, Chernabog is still swooping about, terrorizing the town. I mentioned this on twitter, but do you think the citizens of Storybrooke have amazing stamina from all the cardio they get? Anyway, Chernabog can’t be stuffed back into the Sorcerer’s hat, so Emma and Regina team up to take out the winged terror. Their combined magic only stuns the beast, who veers off into the distance, biding his time to attack again. There is an amusing bit where Emma turns to give everyone tasks post-monster mash and our heroes are already jumping up to take care of things. I love how this shows the characters having adapted to the many many adventures that grace their town.

Back at the town line, Rumple has a number queued up in his cell phone, ready to set his plan in motion. He hands the phone to Ursula who listens intently as Regina answers the line, addressing the former as “the sea bitch”. I don’t know why but that line just makes me laugh every time I hear it. Ursula spins a tale for the mayor and eavesdropping savior about how she and Cruella ditched the Dark One and stole his phone after he told them about Storybrooke and how Regina changed for the good. They lie that they too want to change and that they want in to the town. Regina is all set to deny them, when Chernabog’s roar once again rattles the window panes. Ursula reveals the queens’ past tangle with the terror and is willing to meet Regina and Emma’s terms for entry; reveal how to defeat the beast and Regina will use the Snow Queen’s scroll to cheat the town line. Now I think I understand why Rumpelstiltskin has such magpie tendencies; you never know when something could come of use. And it is interesting that Regina and Emma are thinking like the Dark One. Learning that the beast is only after the hearts with the darkest potential, Regina immediately thinks she is Chernabog’s number one target. Emma isn’t so sure, but Regina brings up a good point. After all, who else could it be?

With some quick thinking and knowledge of the town line’s peculiar magical properties, Emma is quick to hatch a plan. She and Regina must lure Chernabog over the town line, into a land where magic can’t survive. This should vanquish the threat, so Emma and Regina hop in the yellow bug and speed towards the Storybrooke borders. Chernabog is soon on them, and more specifically on the top of the car, eager to get to the savior and mayor inside. As Regina poofs out of the car to draw Chernabog’s attention, Emma slams on her brakes, somersaulting the winged terror across the town line and out of existence. By this time the cavalry has arrived in the form of Snow White and Prince Charming, who are eager to make sure their daughter is ok. What they are not eager about is the fact that Cruella and Ursula want to enter the town. When they first heard the news, it was almost as if a wave of panic washed over the fairy tale pair and even now both Charming and Snow are insistent that the queens should not enter the Storybrooke borders. Emma remarks that this is very out of character for the both of them and then Regina finally pipes up, pointing out that she was worse than either of those two and yet she still got a second chance. It would by hypocritical not to do the same for Cruella and Ursula. With that, Regina chucks the scroll over the line, allowing the De Vil-mobile to roll into town. Can I just say, both Ursula and Cruella look so evil and diva-esque, I feel the general populace is going to have a hard time believing the ruse that they turned over a new leaf.

Later that night we see Rumpelstiltskin, waiting in the dark at the town line. He looks incredibly anxious and almost gives up and turns away before the Snow Queen’s scroll comes sailing into view. I think it speaks to how desperate Rumple is if he’s willing to give away even the tiniest piece of control in his long con to get closer to his goal. The Queens of Darkness did indeed decide to trust him, but the Dark One couldn’t have known that for sure. He had to use faith and hope, two things that are often found in the hero’s toolbox. I have to say the best shot of the night for me was Rumpelstiltskin limping over the town line and as soon as he steps across it his gait changes. With a twirl of the cane you can see Rumple’s confidence renewed. He is back where there is magic and I bet it feel good.

Soon Cruella, Rumple, and Ursula are strolling down main street, discussing the next step in the plan. Rumple instructs the queens to make friends and give the general impression that they are repenting, while the Dark One works behind the scenes. When questioned on the lack of work Rumple seems to have given himself, the imp reveals that it was he who translated the spell for our heroes, posing as an Oxford professor online. Rumple reminds his new allies that he pulled that off without magic when he was at his lowest point. I love Chessmaster Rumple, always six paces ahead of everyone else and we once again see him at his best… or is it his worst? Rumple also clues Cruella and Ursula in on his ace in the hole; he means to revive Maleficent who is not entirely dead. We did see her as that specter all the way back in season two, but one has to wonder the price it will cost to perform the magic needed to bring her back from the brink. Ursula believes they have bigger fish to fry, and expresses worry that Regina and her dark heart will stand in their way. Rumple seems amused at this and claims that the heart Chernabog was after, the one with the greatest potential for darkness in Storybrooke is actually that of Emma Swan. Now, that is a mystery. Why would someone who wields light magic, someone whose heart could not be taken even by the Queen of Hearts herself be the one most likely to fall to the dark side? I feel this might have to do with the savior’s compassion, her strive for others over herself. Will the Queen of Darkness blind her to thinking she is doing the right thing when in fact she is traveling down a dark path?

Speaking of the savior, we find her at Granny’s spending time with her favorite pirate. The pair watch Henry pour over The Book, looking for clues and wonder aloud where Snow and Charming could be as they were supposed to meet Emma and Hook a while ago. Cut to a remote location in the Storybrooke woods, where Charming and Snow White meet up with none other than Cruella and Ursula. Cruella comments that it’s been a long time since they’ve seen each other, but Snow gives them a frosty reception. The princess has steel in her voice as she coldly warns the queens never to reveal what happened between the four of them in the Enchanted Forest. And if they do, Snow White promises to rip their hearts out herself. Wow, I am so intrigued by what this connection could mean! What dark secret could possibly have Snow and Charming so riled that the former threatens cold blooded murder to keep it hidden?

And that’s it for the season 4B premiere! How did you enjoy “Darkness on the Edge of Town"?

"Darkness on the Edge of Town" was a wonderful mix of fun and mystery. This half of the season promises to be much darker than the Frozen arc and I love that. The idea that Emma has the potential for great evil enforces the idea that she and Regina are very similar women who took very different paths and I like the fact that we will be seeing Regina’s redemption and her search for happy endings go up against whatever darkness lurks in the periphery for Emma. Also, I desperately want to know what Charming and Snow did, what deal they struck or action they took with the Queens of Darkness that causes them to act so desperate. I honestly can’t even speculate what could be so heinous to cause the Charmings to act like this and I can’t wait to find out.

Acquiring the Dark Curse was a great way of tying Rumpelstiltskin’s familiarity with the Queens of Darkness to the over arcing mythos of Once Upon a Time. It made it seem like his current goal to achieve a happy ending was more premeditated since acquiring the Dark Curse would do that in reuniting him with the long lost Balefire. It’s interesting to see where this will go for Rumple now, if his happy ending is still with Belle and how he plans on using the Queens of Darkness to carry out this scheme. And also if he plans on betraying them once more. Also, how will the Dark One's dagger come into play with all this? Surely he'll have to regain it, but that means potentially facing Belle.

Past seasons of Once Upon a Time have been mostly about showing the light in even the darkest of hearts. We’ve seen why Regina, Rumple, Zelena, Peter Pan, Hook, and Cora have all turned towards the seductive clutches of evil to get what they want, to get their happiness. So now it’s time to see the dark side of our heroes. Once Upon a Time has always shown that the idea of “heroes and villains” has never been so straight forward, that these characters operate in grey areas. And now we are ready to see the dark spots in those heroic hearts.

Be sure to tune in next week for “Unforgiven”!


About the Author – Ashley B
Ashley is as serious as a sleeping curse when she says television is her life. Professional event planner, avid movie viewer, convention enthusiast, and resident sass master, Ashley writes reviews for ABC's Once Upon a Time, Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, and Galavant, as well as Showtime’s Penny Dreadful. She looks forward each week to the weird and wonderful world her favorite television programs provide.
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41 comments:

  1. - The SwanQueen was strong with this episode.

    - Glad to see Maleficent back. Hopefully this means that both Aurora and Mulan will be back too.
    - What exactly is Ursula's power?
    - I wish that the terrible trio had done a Wayne's World Bohemian Rhapsody scene in Dev Il's car.
    - Regina starts talking to the Boob Faery, Emma's wife senses
    start tingling, and she immediately rushes to put the kabosh on that. #JealousEmma
    - Gee Blue Faery, you're not being shady at all.
    - I've heard rumors that Lana Parrilla is pregnant. Please let Regina be pregnant by magic with Emma, NOT by Robin.
    - I'm totally terrified of Mary Margaret threatening to tear out their
    hearts. HAHAHAHAHA. No really, I'm quaking in my boots. HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.

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  2. I've missed your reviews too! Greetings from Poland!

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  3. Ursula's power? Something with see, or ocean?

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  4. Cruella 's dogs are Rottweillers, not Doberman... Loool ! I wonder what Maleficent and Emma have in common. Why Chernobog chose Maleficent rather than the two others QOD ? So what means "great potential of darkness"?

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  5. Episode was a whimper not an earth shattering gafau.


    You tell it well but you ignore the 6 week disconnect that leaves the audience looking a puzzle already unfolded in stead of a puzzle that unfolds before them like 3B.

    Questions that should be puzzling you: how did Cruela wind up with her car in this realm if Regina nor Snow brought her? why is Ursula not her magical self like Ariel?(mere creatures can cross realms magic or not? why doesn't Chernabog go through the barrier to the other side? Who invented the Dark curse if not Rumple as previously stated in season's past, and why is it so guarded? Where is Tinkerbelle in the hat story? Who taped the page back together? Why is Regina now Mayor and How is May Margaret now able to teach High school kids? How did the scroll allow Rumple back in town when he left because of the dagger? How many lies will Reul Ghorm tell before the season ends. And how did Snow and Chrming know where to find Cruella and Ursula? and where was Rumple at that point?

    I already have my own thoughts on what is going on and you know where you can look up most though I seldom look there any more. All the thoughts on Blue are there, though there is like the town to me, a place no longer treating me as welcome.

    As for Emma the answers to her potential lie in the episodes about her desperate soul, her shining heart, and her miraculous birth.

    As for Snow and David and a dark secret concerning Emma, look to Harry Potter and the Boy who lived, all magic comes with a cost, what cost a Savior? Perhaps one should start by going back and looking at the Lady of the Lake.

    BTW, Regina did not show Blue book but rather a book. The group all assumes the books are blank but perhaps they for get the ripple effect and they are not ready to ready that book, most of them. Clues to who the author is are in the works themselves. And as for the Sorcerer, keeping the books for safe keeping says nothing for who the Sorcerer is or how the two are different. Th only thing you know for certain is they are represented by books and by a hat and Blue knows of them both, something she never let Rumple know when he asked her in the past.

    And now on to next week and the resurrection of Maleficent who was living in a magic cave in a world with now magic

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  6. Okay first, pregnant by magic? That sounds just so... weird. I mean it would make no sense if Regina is pregnant and it isn't by Robin who she slept with. I learnt that's the way how to conceive a child and I wouldn't buy the idea of a (magical) sperm bank in Storybrook. But I don't believe the rumour until Parrilla confirms them.

    It's really great to have Maleficient back and I've read somewhere that Aurora is coming back. But it does not seem as if Mulan would appear anytime soon. Isn't the actress shooting another scene?

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  7. Do multiple people write the reviews?

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  8. Oh wow, thanks for pointing that out! I've edited the article. I'm more of a cat person anyway, haha. Also, I'm wondering if "great potential for darkness" means greatest potential to pass the point of no return. What do you think?

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  9. Greetings! It's nice to be back after a long break

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  10. Hello Ashley, nice to read you again ! I'm a cat person too but i like dogs : Rottweillers, Doberman and Beauceron have the same colors in their fur but their jaws, character and morphology are quite different. Maybe i work in the pet shelter with David Nolan ?? I love animals anyway !
    Actually, i think we must watch again the 1x3 to see the thing with a new look : Maleficent is done with revenge and all this stuff and she kept the dark curse for the good of all. Surprising for a woman called Maleficent, isn't it ? And, in front of Chernobog, once again, she thinks the 3 QOD can save themselves together instead of following her own interest. So, Maleficent has an altruistic tendency. I think Emma and her share two things : a troubled past they threw behind them and an ability to seek the common good.

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  11. Hmmm, that's very interesting. I'm eager to see Maleficent's background now and see where she came from and how it all fits in.


    Ps glad you enjoy the reviews!

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  12. 1) I'm sure most of your Cruella questions will be answered with her backstory episode.
    2) Ursula isn't a mer creature; she's a sorceress.

    3) Don't know
    4) That might not be the curse. That might simply be an ingredient for it that Rumple needed.
    5) She's on iZombie.
    6) Regina did.
    7) Mary Margaret didn't like being mayor, so they gave it back to Regina.
    8) The dagger forced him to step over the town line. It's not preventing him from coming back. The cloaking spell is what's stopping him, and the scroll allows him to pierce it.
    9) Story
    10) They probably set it up.
    11) Story

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  13. actually, i think Maleficent and Emma can be very strong for the others (like a son or a pony-unicorn) but very hurtable for themselves.

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  14. Cruela's car is bought by her late husband. It is hers by the settlement. The IRS got everything else.

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  15. NoneofyourbusinessMarch 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM

    Maleficent appeared in 1x2, "The Thing You Love Most". 1x3 was "Snow Falls", where Snow and Charming met.

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  16. NoneofyourbusinessMarch 3, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    "If so, do you think we’ll see how Maleficent ends up getting it back from Rumple?"

    Regina traded it to her for the sleeping curse.

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  17. thank you !

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  18. NoneofyourbusinessMarch 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    You're welcome!

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  19. This was a great episode to begin 4B with.
    The Queens were awesome, each having their own power, but I can't but notice Cruella's CRAZY driving - kudos to creators, and the twist on her smoking, which I still regret isn't there, especially the cigarette holder. However, I'll applaud to her magical smoke with the power of persuasion.
    Chernobog, which actually means the Dark God, was adorable! I loved seeing him perched on top of the clock tower, looked very impressive. Kinda sorry he's gone so soon, would have made an awesome couple with a flying monkey if there had been left some. :)
    Still, how do we know it was Regina who taped the epic page 23, and not Will, for example? I thought or I'd like to think Robin had asked him to take care of her so he collected the pieces and gave them back to her, taped. The heartbreak moment of the episode was to see Regina suffering over Robin, and Emma, as a true friend, was there for her. Their duo is really great, given the time in SB passes day-by-day (only 2-3 months, the missing year excluded) and it is amazing how quickly these women, given so little time they have spent together, could overcome their resentment for each other and work together (In 3A they were forced to do so by circumstances).
    As for Rumple... He screwed the Queens once, I have a feeling he's going to do it again.
    It will be interesting to see his redemption, or whether he'll get one at all. Regina has been doing a lot of work on her own and apparently she's successful (tho I shall only be happy with her reward if it includes Robin too) but Rumple and his new master plan just give me the creeps. Belle is not going to be pleased at all.
    MM and David were really scared out of their mind, especially David's micro expressions in that scene in their apartment were telling, and I can't wait to find out about their secret!

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  20. Oh one more thing. In 1x2, Maleficent tells Regina: "Whoever CREATED that monstrosity makes you and I look positively moral". At that time, it appeared she neither knew who'd created nor who had given Regina the Dark Curse. I've always thought Rumple invented and created the curse, but now it is implied Maleficent not only knew about it but also helped Rumple get it. Did he change it> because that would be the only explanation I could accept, as well as Rumple ordered Maleficent to keep quiet about the fact she knew about the Curse.

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  21. Not "late husband" but "husband". "Late husband" means he died, and he was present in that episode.

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  22. Wait a minute, now I'm mixing up my curses. I haven't rewatched season one in a long time, hmm

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  23. NoneofyourbusinessMarch 3, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Rumple gave the Dark Curse to Regina some time ago. Instead of using it, she traded it to Maleficent for the sleeping curse she used on Snow White via the apple. After Rumple made it so that she couldn't harm Snow and Charming in Fairytale Land and made her realize she could hurt them if she used the Dark Curse to transport them all to another realm, she showed up to threaten Snow and Charming at their wedding and then went to Maleficent to get the Dark Curse back. Mal refused, they fought, and Regina recovered the Dark Curse.

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  24. So who originally created the Dark Curse?

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  25. I really liked Cruella and Victoria Smurfit fits character seamlessly

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  26. 1 Oooh great another thing to inexplicable rabbit to pull out of a hat like with Ingrid and how she never aged in spite of the fact she was not part of the curse.
    2 Boy are you in for a rude awakening when her supposed father shows up this season (Ernie Hudson- Poseidon) Yes that makes her a Mer creature.
    3 Exactly, If August survived being outside Storybrooke, so too would Chernabog, only he would have no magic and no way back in the town.
    4. Watch the episode again and they are talking about going in to pick up the "Dark Curse". This is HUGE rewrite as in the past all credit for the curse has gone to Rumple and the many years he spent crafting it. Only one line in a scene between Regina and Maleficent suggests otherwise.BTW, The dark curse they just stole was destroyed by Regina and poof magically she is still able to help Snow cast it again in 3B so not an ingredient.
    5. Not referring to the Actress but the character who earned her wings back but was not thereto help make the antidote or wind up in the hat.
    6 Assumption, never stated or seen. It is a magic page, perhaps it followed her home and taped itself together. Let's face it. The page popped out of no where.
    7 Mayor goes to whoever cast the curse. They established that. Seriously, if they do not want to respect their own writing why should others?You are right in their intent but wrong in how the curse was explained and how the city works. You cast the curse you are mayor and only people you want are there and only things you want come as well. Yes, Snow did not like being mayor but she should have thought about that before she cursed everyone.
    8 Looks back to Anna and the Dagger and her command. The two events are similar and Rumple is bound by his deal with the darkness to obey the commands of the dagger holder, it has been shown even when they are no longer the dagger holder. Otherwise Rumple would have followed Anna and taken back the hat once he got the Dagger back. His command was simple " "Leave Storybrooke"- he he is back in town he is not following the command. That implies the Sorcerer's magic is more powerful that the dark one curse.
    9 Not understanding "story" as a reply but faeries are not supposed to lie and this one is lying up a blue streak.
    10 Did you see it set up? If not poof magic writing. No logic as to how it came to be.
    11. These were food for thought questions to to look forward to not questions that could be answered with any exactitude. I know many could be poof magically explained like why there have been two robin hoods which comes later this season, but at this point these are questions which should be bothering people.

    Thanks for the response it allowed me to write that last sentence.

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  27. The car is the Cruela Devil Mobile, not a car you can just find anywhere. And No at that would have been siezed if that were the case along with her ring.

    And to remind you Pinocchio is a totally magical creature who lived 28 years outside the city in a world without magic so that would not destroy a creature based solely on stepping out of town. It used to wipe their memory, It now simply prevents them from coming back in. Chernabog should have found himself like Rumple out in a world without magic, helpless. Or should I also remind you of Walsh and the Flying Monkeys who go everywhere. The borderline does not kill.

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  28. of course, there are several out two I believe on Spoiler and others on different sites. The idea is to gather as many perspectives as possible and exchange ideas.

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  29. 1. If they grind down on explaining every little detail, that makes a boring story. There are a number of reasons that things can happen, and unless they serve to move the story along, they're superfluous. We might get them, we might not.
    2. How does that make her a mer creature? Her mother could have been human, and Poseidon doesn't have to be a mer creature either.
    3. August wasn't a magic creature.
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    5. SHE'S ON iZOMBIE
    6. Funny, Regina didn't seem surprised to see it. In fact, she tried to keep Emma out of that drawer like she knew it was there.
    7. That was a rule that the people made up. It's not a real rule.
    8. Anna commanded that, "You can never hurt me...or my sister." Belle simply commanded him to leave Storybrooke, which he did.
    9. "Story" means it's just something to fulfill the story. Also, she may not have been lying. She might not have been telling the whole truth, but that doesn't mean she was lying. Also, where does "Faery's can't lie" come from?
    10. Yes, poof magic writing. I don't need to see every mundane thing that happens to know that it's easily possible.
    11. Story.

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  30. 1, No those are called plot holes ad they grind stories to a halt, so explain the more do not.
    2 Being the child of a sea god if pretty much the definition of being a mer creature, mer means sea creature other than human and read some mythology and do not interject humans in creatures with one parent a god and the other leaving you with tentacles or a tail
    3. August was made of magical wood brought to life by the blue faerie and change into a boy with strings attached as to his behavior. He did not do as he was supposed to and August turned back to wood. Did you miss that entire season?
    5. Irrelevant to OUAT storyline.
    6 Knowing it is there and knowing how it got there are two different things. Think: wouldn't it be great if the page assembled itself and forced Regina to hold on to hope regardless. It is an old magical twist that prevents a person from destroying their destiny to have it reassemble in front of them. Perhaps Regina does not want to share this hope with others. "Yo guys the page keeps fixing itself"... Yea right.
    7 yes, it is a real rule as in the design of the dark curse creates a land of the person's desire for that person to rule, in this case be mayor. Snow can try and delegate her responsibilities but odds are the curse will force her to make this town her happy ending. The nature of the curse is you sacrifice that you love most to take away everyone else's happy ending and make one all your own. Snow paid the price up front but this is the cost of magic. She is in charge. Like Regina she can break the curse at any time but why would she?
    8. Rumble tells Belle "but I will never be able to come back" so it is understood that both know the consequence of her command. The will of the Dagger supercedes the will of the Dark One and Anna wanted herself and the hat sent to Arendale and her family protected from Rumple and the Apprentice restored. All happened as Anna commanded and stayed that way even when Rumple got back the dagger. If Rumple could have undone Anna's command , don't you think he would have? Steal back the hat? kill her family?
    9 Episode 1X19 when Rumple confronts Blue "We (Faeries) don't Lie". And yet there was a Mage, the Apprentice, who could have sent Rumple after Baelfire. There is also the lie about the tree only taking one, there was the lie to Jiminy about not being able to undo dark magic, The lie that turned Jiminy into a cricket rather than change two dolls back into Gepetto's parents. Amazing she changed Snow from a bug to a human though the magic was dark and of curs she change Pinocchio to a boy from a puppet. As Ashley points out Blue is a shady character, knowing way more than she tells and doing things to steer destiny like handing Baelfire that bean, Finding the magic tree for Emma and Punishing Tinkerbell for helping Regina find true love.
    10 Then this comment should not have inspired you to try and fill in the gaps but you did as do most. Need has nothing to do with it. There are loads of stories that are fun to read but make no sense but they are not without question. Google any book you liked and if you do not find a person asking why thing happened the way they did must not be much of a book? Part of writing is trying to anticipate one's holes and not make them easily spot able, like the pilot, how did Henry hop a bus to Boston at 10 years old when nearest bus is three miles away and he is only 10. How does he even know a ride will be there?

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  31. I see that you want to hate, so I'm going to leave you to it.

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  32. August is cursed. It is not the same as being totally magical. Flying monkeys are not magical they are real from OZ. Only Walsh is cursed again curses work in our world.

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  33. Let me go slow here as this is fundamental to the show . Pinocchio is made from a magical tree out of the enchanted forest. This is why he is animated without the need for a puppeteer. When the curse was coming Blue found a similar tree to make a wardrobe closet to send Snow and Charming to the new world, a world without magic. Gepetto fearing that Pinocchio would die if he was sent to such a world blackmailed Blue into telling a lie and telling Snow the tree could only transport one. Pinocchio avoided the curse by going through the wardrobe closet first. He and Emma did not arrive in Storybrooke and they aged like normal people. Pinocchio changed his name to August and 28 years later when Emma landed in town August started turning back to wood, not because he was cursed but because he did not live up to his promise.But the fact is he lived most his life outside the town being made of magical wood. The thing you were supposed to take from Walsh and Flying Monkeys is they can travel where they please as Zelena points out spying on all realms, and no curses do not work ina world without magic but turning one into a magical flying monkey or merperson does. That is how Ariel is able to travel from Neverland to Storybrooke without a portal and with a protection spell in place by Belle. As for Ingrid's spell it is designed to keep people out not in and throwing some one out should not kill them magic or other wise. It should only keep them out. This is how it has worked every season since the show began. Consider the possibility that they screwed up, I do

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  34. No you are trying to answer questions I left for another person for her to keep in mind and if you notice she has not responded and never had too. No one had too but as you tried I told you where you and I differ. If anyone is hating here it is you, attacking the questions I left behind. The fact that you persist in trying to change a non opinion into your own opinion is sad. You are arguing with what is possible? That will leave you frustrated and me as well. Enjoy.

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  35. I see that you want to hate, so I'm going to leave you to it.

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  36. you need to stop looking in a mirror while posting. Bye

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  37. i bet it's the Author

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  38. They did not rewrite the dark curse. They refer to it as "rumple's dark curse" since he spent so long setting everything up to cast it/he owns the curse. In the episode with Bealfire using the bean to escape, you see the blue fairy tell Rumple about the curse. She clearly says it already exists and that he would never be able to cast it, so he went looking for the curse to reunite him with Neal. That being said, he did modify the curse with the potion of true love, essentially changing the curse and making it "his". Basically all of Rumple's flashback appearances are either related to becoming the dark one, bealfire, or making deals to enact the curse. He can see the future and so he teaches Cora and Regina in exchange for Regina casting the curse, he stops teaching Zelena when he realizes she cannot cast the curse, he makes deals to gain ingredients or to ensure the curse is enacted. He helps people for his own ends, getting the potion of true love, helping break snow's sleeping curse, etc is all for the curse (since regina gave up the curse for the sleeping curse).

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  39. She clearly says " only you would think of a curse instead of a blessing", she does not say it exists and Rumple asks, but Blue likes to lie even about lying. Rumple asked Blue about a realm jumper, a time traveler, a mage and a curse. Blue tells Rumple that such a curse is beyond his abilities, but Rumple states he will forego love and all other distractions until he come up with one. The is the implied cost of such dark magic and the reason Belle kissing Rumple did not take away his dark one power.

    Now when he is looking for someone to cast "his" dark curse, as it is repeatedly referred to Rumple selects Regina and not Zelena, or Maleficent, who is the only one who suggests Rumple did not create the curse. However, It is later discussed in the pawnshop when Regina feels he control on the town slipping that Rumple a made a deal with Regina to cast his curse, and he wants her to make her another. When we get to the point where Rumple creates true love magic potion and puts some in the curse to make Emma the savior it clear this is a spell of his design.

    No this is a huge revision of the story from 1X02 when Regina visited Rumple in his cell and talked of the curse he gave her not working. When Regina retrieves the curse from Maleficent you note that Maleficent does not let on she knows where the curse came from so once again the writers screwed up. They had maleficent ask Regina who gave Regina the Curse but from this last episode we are now told Maleficent knew Rumple had it.

    Oh and by the way be careful to listen to everything that Blue says or does not say to Baelfire and Rumple as she is deliberate in everything she speaks. She gave the bean to Baelfire to get Rumple somewhere his magic would not work and out of Mysthaven. As she knew about the Apprentice and did not tell Rumple how to find him, she wanted Rumple to think of a curse, but everything with Blue is a deal, a wish with a magical cost. For Baelfire the cost was he take Rumple with him,(Fail). For Rumple the cost of learning that a curse is possible is the chance at love. Notice all his relationships fail up until Belle and in the end the dark curse requires the sacrifice of that you love most, clue Baelfire is dead and now Belle is not talking to Rumple. The price of magic is far reaching and this curse seems designed if not by then for Rumple and only Rumple as it takes him where he wants to go with his power for now but that could change. Who knows if Belle could break the cost of the curse. It does seem like even the price of magic is up for change. Have to wait and see.

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  40. [" If so, do you think we’ll see how Maleficent ends up getting it back from Rumple?"]


    Regina gave the curse to Maleficent in exchange for the sleeping curse. After Charming broke the sleeping curse, Regina battled with Maleficent to get Rumpel's curse back.

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