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Arrow - Episode 3.20 - Title Revealed

Mar 4, 2015

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164 comments:

  1. This title worries me.

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  2. WOW!
    Sounds like Team Arrow is boom! I assume this are the leftovers of TA, after that huge loss and Oliver possible going to NP.

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  3. usually the episode with "The" is a big episode so far this season...The calm, The Magacian, the climb, the return, the offer

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  4. Well, considering someone will die in 3x19, "The Fallen" is a good title. My guess? This won't be permanent. They'veplayed with The Lazarus Pit all Season. My guesses? Thea or Felicity are the ones who die and are tossed into the Pit. Both of those deaths would send Oliver into becoming Ra's.


    Another? Malcolm dies saving Thea, getting at least a bit of redemption... dying with honor and dignity, like Ra's told him in 3x15.

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  5. The Brave and the Bold
    The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak :P

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  6. Les NOT forget if the Lazarus Pit is used on someone they come out insane and way off.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Pit

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  7. well TBATB and TSOOFS are both longer two words so it not the same

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  8. well it seem the pattern of a suppose death is similar to last year but probably for a different reason

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  9. So Oliver trips and falls on the sidewalk and Roy puts the video on Youtube. That what I'm going to pretend this episode is about for as long as I can.

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  10. Well some one does die in ep 19. If they are going to use Lazarus Pit to revive someone it will be Thea. After all this whole season is about Oliver saving Thea. I know people do predict Felicity but that seems to be very fanfictiony. Or else they are all mourning Roy's death.

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  11. You are in a great mood nowadays. :P

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  12. Stephen just posted this status of his FB page:
    "...Over on Arrow, we're starting our 66th episode, or as I like to call it: Our Mario Lemieux EP. It's going to be a good one."

    What does that mean?

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  13. Right? I'm still laughing at the CW logo with the cape lol

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  14. Who knows.
    All we know at this point is Caity Lotz wil be on the Atom/Firestorm hour as either 'Sara' or a new character.

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  15. I don't know but mario lemieux is a hockey player but I cant say why he mean by that

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  16. I really don't see them using the Pit in that way, it isn't arrowy at all. Think the show wouldn't go in that direction.
    An other reason I doubt it if the dead one will seemingly die in an explosion in the A cave so doubt there will be a body.

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  17. I miss her too. I'm glad she had an amazing exit though. IKR? This season went by very quickly.

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  18. That was some strong 4 episodes in the back half of season 2. All the frustrations I felt till then melted away with those four last episodes.

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  19. Good theory. I like it.

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  20. We lost a great actress when Moira was killed. We need more adult characters introduced on this show. Be it villain or regular characters or hero.

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  21. Technically they're all adults :P

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  22. I was so angry with those 10-18 eps. They were a complete mess, except Heir to the Demon and SS. But that finish was brilliant.

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  23. After three ghosts till Seeing Red it was frustrating and bumpy ride. Less use of Slade was the reason I was most annoyed with. He could have done so much more. But the last four episodes made me fall in love with the show again and the summer hiatus was so hard to pass by. I expect we get that quality in story telling in the upcoming episodes.

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  24. Someone with age above 45 you smart ass :)

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  25. The last three episodes of season two are my all time favourite episode of Arrow (Yeah I think of them as one awesomely long episode)

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  26. Truth! Great addition to the cast went away. This makes me even more worry about Quentin. They don't cherish them enough. I don't think Q will die but wouldn't be surprised if he departs and that Damien guy takes his job.

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  27. Well that makes them senior citizens not adults :P

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  28. I think they brought the pit into this show when Ra's said his last duel was 65 years ago. From then it became only a matter of time till we see it used..

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  29. I hope not.. If the rumors that next season's big bad is related to H.I.V.E are true then i can't see them doing a storyline that involves Dig's brother without him.

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  30. Arrow needs Paul Blackthorne badly. It will be a shame to loose him too. Suzanna Thomson's Moira was really awesome. She elevated the acting in Arrow. Matt Nable eventhough an older guy and a good actor Ra's hardly has much personality or enough background established for him to be effective like Moira.

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  31. If she's resurrected after being buried wouldn't she suffocate?

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  32. Deathbolt is the villain in 3x19, which has started internet buzz that the foundry is going to be blown up. In Flashpoint (I think?) Roy dies in an explosion. That kind of worries me. Who knows? It's Arrow.

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  33. I thought they said they wouldn't go that way, that Arrow is supposed to be more down to earth and... real. I'm ok with it being mentioned or clued in, but I don't want anything magical or mistical on this show.

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  34. Lemieux was number 66

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  35. I like the insinuation that is there but really hope they won't use it.

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  36. Me too. But Marc also said after the crossover they are more open to super powers and fantasy in this show.

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  37. A Metahuman is coming to the show in 3x19.
    I mean they can't completely cut it out cause of the Flash crossovers but still I hope they will be on a minimum.

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  38. Wouldn't they have noticed if the grave had been dug up again? Supposedly, Laurel went there a lot, she would've noticed her sister's grave being disturbed.

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  39. Same here. I really hope now when they push past all those secrets and Malcolm mess that good writing will pull us back in and make it extremely hard to wait 4-5 months.

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  40. By making Flash and Arrow in the same universe they have opened a door. Now a meta human is coming to starling city in ep. 19 I guess. So anything can happen. Comic book fans seems to be very happy about using Lazarus Pit. They were disappointed when Oliver was not brought back by it. It's us TV fans who find such things difficult to swallow on Arrow.

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  41. What your guess-The most obvious choice is Quentin.The fallen kind of implies a memorial service for him.

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  42. That was my first thought! It would be awesome to get some Moira, she's the only that hasn't come back for a flashback...

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  43. I wouldn't mind it that much, but really it isn't the place for it with so many heartbreaking deaths to pull it out of their noses all of the sudden.
    If they introduce as a bring back to life force the whole balance of the show will shift.

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  44. Assuming we don't see Quentin/Blackthorne on set in a BTS.

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  45. They need him, but he is currently there and barely used. I would rather see him ride of in the sunset with Mama Smoak than be a semi recurring character. I know he will get more scenes in upcoming eps but don't think that is enough, at least not for me.

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  46. Stephen just posted a picture on his FB page. He's standing in the hallway of the hospital. The sign on the door behind him says ICU. Oh, boy.

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  47. I don't know why the man just can't stick to his word! I don't mind those things in The Flash, but Arrow was supposed to be as realistic as possible! and now we're getting metahumans too? then just give Laurel her canary cry already! if everything they've said was obviously written on watter and smashed with a rock...

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  48. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

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  49. If they had concentrated on his job politics with the mayor lady as they announced before the season it would have been so nice. But with all the emerging heroes they had to scrap that story line. It frustrates me why this series can't handle multiple story lines and give good screen time to all the characters. The Hong Kong flashbacks should be removed and Diggle and Quentin should be given more screen time.

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  50. I thought he was laying in the hospital. Be more clear next time. So the explosion seems to have more casulties, except the dead one.

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  51. I'm attached to all of the characters in some way except one-Roy.He's a really bad actor and adds nothing to the show IMO.I'd very happy if he gets killed off.

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  52. I like the theory I read here of Thea dying and getting resurrected using the pit.
    If the death is permanent I think it could be Roy.

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  53. Uh Oh!!! Who is dying? Who is going to be blasted to bits. I need to know now! *Stomping my foot*

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  54. I thought that too. No way, it's Felicity, Laurel or Dig. I keep going back to Roy or Lance.

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  55. I was of the same opinion. But this season with him being more silent and his scenes with Thea being more poignant now that they are not in a relationship he has slowly grown on me. I will be sad if he dies.

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  56. Lets not mention the FB or it will get messy here. ;-) Did they even explain how Oliver learned to pilot?
    Q could've been pushed into so many stories but for some reasons they didn't just left him hanging! Don't know what to say, would rather see him in the spin off or somewhere just so he wouldn't be left out.

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  57. Maybe the person dies in the hospital.

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  58. Ok next time I'll say he's standing unharmed in a hospital hallway

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  59. They is exactly why I stay sway from spoilers! now I'll have to troll the web and theorize to dead who it is!

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  60. Maybe Roy will lose his arms like in the comics.

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  61. Marc is the kind of person who always changes his mind. He needs to reduce his interactions with the fans tbh. When too many people cry in the internet for canary cry he will say they might bring in super powers. When someone cries it will reduce Oliver's importance he will say Arrow will always root in reality. He needs to back off.

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  62. I really hope it doesn't go TVD route with all the dead characters being resurrected-Death has to stick to make the issue serious,otherwise it's just a gimmick to lure viewership.

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  63. I remember that from Young Justice show. Will he get a clone too?

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  64. Or Felicity can lose the use of her legs and finally become Oracle...

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  65. Agreed. If it is a one time use it and then it will loose its power thing maybe I will be okay with it. Otherwise death looses its importance on the show.

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  66. http://data1.whicdn.com/images/53417456/original.gif

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  67. He was the weakest actor in Teen wolf when he was there,same case with Arrow now.He needs acting lessons ASAP.Once his character dies(Hopefully)-he can do that and come back better.

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  68. What is with maiming people? Roy looses arm, Felicity loose her use of legs. Slade lost his eye last year. What next? Malcolm dies and becomes a zombie.

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  69. Excellent gif use. That is my mindset now.

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  70. And eats Thea's brain literally this time!

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  71. Deadshot lost an eye too.

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  72. This gif represents the entire Arrow fandom.

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  73. See that's another one. Thea lost her free will due to Malcolm's witchy juju.

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  74. For whatever's worth that would make her cannon and maybe they'll find a use for her instead of sidelining her or turning into one leg of a love triangle.

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  75. "Seeing Red" was a mediocre episode with one of the greatest final acts of any Arrow episode to date. It's remembered to be better than it was because of Moira's death.

    Steven Amell and Paul Blackthorne released a joint video today, and Paul indicated that he had scenes to shoot. Given that they've started on episode 20, Lance isn't the casualty in 19.

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  76. Thanks. I predicted Lance wouldn't die. It's good to know.

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  77. Don't point fingers you wanted someone to be blast into bits. :-P
    I didn't even think of Roy losing his arms till you mentioned pieces.

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  78. Thank you!!!!

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  79. Forget piloting. We still haven't seen him learning Chinese. I just don't want him to go away. Not yet. One by one all my favorites are being killed off. First Moira, then Sara. I don't want Quentin to go too.

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  80. But why is the camera taped to him? Do you think he's video chatting with someone?

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  81. WTH IS HAPPENING!!!!!!

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  82. He looks worried, but no to broken up, so it may not be as bad? maybe it's the lighting in the picture...

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  83. I don't know what to think anymore. My brain hurts GAAAAAAAAH

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  84. That's weird, isn't it? it's probably for a close up, it's just a BTS picture, we won't see the camera in the finished product.

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  85. where is this picture from

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  86. IKR! so many possibilities, so much time to wait...

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  87. I know that we won't see the camera but attaching the camera to him indicates that either he's going to run, he's recording something or he's talking to someone.

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  88. they already announced the full cast for Atom and the acctress who plays Felicity is not listed. So I doubt she is leaving the show.

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  89. Or the pic was taken in between takes.

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  90. Maybe episode 19 is when Oliver decides to join the League, and he leaves Starling for good (maybe until season finale)

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  91. Stephen posted it on his FB page.

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  92. Most likely....

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  93. Did he spoke Chinese in the flashbacks so far? Maybe little Maseo thought him. I hoped for the piloting Hal Jordan and Carol Ferris would be introduced. Be recurrings and than when they leave the show they'll get hit with some green light.
    Don't know what to tell you. Drag him along just doesn't seem okay. I would be fine with him even get a love interest so he just would get some screen time.

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  94. Or it is close up face scene. Or you know that camera scenes done in movies where it feels like the camera is fixed on person's face and it is moving along with the actor.

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  95. Maybe he was sprinting down the hallway to the ICU to see whoever is dying there...

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  96. Unlikely as Stephen just posted a pic in a hospital from today's shooting of ep 20.

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  97. There is like 6 hours of air in a coffin. That is why it's called being buried alive.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPstZAl0Vjk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk5fAvpwtKU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Pfbb01a5A

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  98. At this point it could be anything. He could be taking a selfie for all we know....

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  99. Maybe Ra"s wil kill someone close to Oliver, maybe Thea or Felicity so he can force Oliver to join the League. That would make him a bad villain. And Thea could return mad...

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  100. They wouldn't announce Felicity as it would ruin the surprise of her leaving Arrow. She would be announced after episode 3x10 airs.

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  101. I still doubt she is leaving consider they said they wanted to dig into her father/past in season 4.

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  102. and is the death confirmed in 3x19 as "staying dead" or just dying? just because you die doesn't mean you don't come back.

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  103. I wouldn't mind the pit being used, since they get some rules, like unable to resurrect someone dead for too long, and maybe not every kind of injury, or death. And I was thinking, maybe Maseo's son is dead or in a coma, and he joined the league to bring his son back...

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  104. This made me laugh so hard! I once tried to take a selfie with an eos 5d, not an easy thing let me tell you, unless it's straped to your chest, that could simplify things, lol!

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  105. The cemetery could have filled it in the next day and kept it hush hush as to not have to explain grave robbing ... or ... worse Zombies.

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  106. Coma curing is fine with me but dead people should be dead. It takes the edge of a show if you know that eventually everyone could be resurrected. It would create a plot point which would be to flexible and affect the show in a major way.

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  107. Well someone ( if not two people even ) is leaving and it is someone important to the show.
    Strangle enough Stephen and Colton tweeted about ( making hem safe IMHO ) it well Emily and David didn't. hmmmmm
    I'm betting Diggle & Lyla with baby Sara ride off into the sunset in episode 3x19 and then in episode 2x22/2x23 Felicity leaves with Ray for the Atom/Firestorm hour.

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  108. I doubt Felicity will leave. Given her role on the team, is vital, and the writers' like her character. Dig I could see, but I think it's Quentin.

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  109. that seems to be your shtick (Felicity for everything), still don't think she is leaving but then who knows. but I think it is more Diggle for 19.

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  110. I think Marc said somewhere they won't kill another character off since they already did with Sara so something is off

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  111. No 'shtick' just my personal opinion.

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  112. right, yes that is what I mean by that just my colorful way of putting it.


    even if they did kill Felicity (I am stuck on the whole 5 seconds thing teased earlier) I would incredibly hate it but it would be a great arch. Also think that maybe someone, like Felicity, "dies" but comes back.

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  113. another theory......he refering to ML number 66 because this episode 66 it that simple

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  114. I think her being a bit crazy for a few eps in s4 would be great.

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  115. How about if Felicity is gravely injured and is fighting for her life in episode 2x20.

    She ends up losing the use of her legs as well as her memories of Oliver, Diggle, Laurel, Roy, Thea, Malcolm, and Sara. The only ones she remembers are her mother Donna and Ray.

    Oliver decides the danger to her is to high and lets her go once and for all, placing her in Donna and Ray's care. The three of them end up leaving Starling City for Coast City, Blüdhaven, or Calvin City where the best rehab facility is located .... and the new spin-off takes place.

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  116. I think something with ll happen to Roy. I don't think it's Diggle and Felicity since Marc said that these two will deal with heavy stuff in season 4. If I remember correctly, in the comics Roy and Oliver became enemies or something...

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  117. She gets injured in ep 18 u mean she gets injured again in 19? Lol

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  118. Roy is safe. His contract has been extended so I don't think he is going anywhere but that doesn't mean he can't lose an arm.

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  119. Felicity is not going anywhere the writers made that clear she's going be on season 4

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  120. The tweet was "it's hard to say goodbye ... even if it's scripted" meaning someone beloved to Stephen, Arrow, and Oliver dies or leaves the show.

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  121. are you sure that Colton contract been expended to season 5? source of this info? I read somewhere some of the cast have a 5 year obligation so

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  122. Well it could be Dig . I guess I can see him taking his family away n starting fresh. But I'm just not sure about a real death I'm still going w new suit n death of Arrow.....here comes Green Arrow lol I mean this is the epic where Joe/Cisco crossover and this is also the last time Ollie is in his current suit. I guess real death is still not on my list. I think there's a death just not the way we think

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  123. Andrew n Marc have mentioned this but it's not just Colton, John Barrowman was mentioned too

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  124. lol
    Could you even imagine if the 'scripted' goodbye Stephen is referring to is actually for his old Arrow costume to make way for the new one.

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  125. It wouldn't surprise me that man has a wicked sense of humor lol n I mean that in a good way

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  126. you know where you got this info from? twitter? tumblr?

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  127. It's an article on Green Arrow tv. U might have to archive it but it should add till be there

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  128. "Public Enemy" --> "Broken Arrow" --> "The Fallen"


    It's going to be some rough episodes for Ollie. Could be even worse than the set-up to the second season finale.

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  129. Typically, those kinds of episodes are the "top tier" episodes of the series that holds a lot to the season. And that's even going back to episodes like "The Odyssey", "The Promise", "The Scientist".

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  130. The moment Buffy was resurrected was the moment I got tired of the series.

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  131. What did he expect after turning down Ra's offer u really don't tell man like him NO especially since Ra's probably see this as a noble n selfless act lol u know how all ego maniacs have to stick together. I love Ollie but that man is as cocky as they come n this offer had to make that ego of his feel good.

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  132. Funny enough, that's just who Green Arrow is too. The guy can be very cocky, so it's a sly way of still being true to Green Arrow even while people say "Oh, it's just Batman lite!", lol. That entire bit between Ollie and Diggle about Ollie being egotistical that he's upset someone beat him fit GA to a 'T'.

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  133. I know it's perfect. GA is n has always been so full of himself which is why I loved that Dig knew the truth his brother from another mother is a cocky SOB.

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  134. please not Felicity, that eye-candy is needed...

    http://i.giphy.com/12Hp0yti4z4Of6.gif

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  135. I say Quentin. Im denying all Felicity, Diggle theories.

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  136. Holy Mother of Batman !!!

    ( Will Diggle aka the Green Lantern be apart of the Atom/Firestorm Hour )

    http://screenrant.com/arrow-diggle-green-lantern-john-stewart/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_399719

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  137. the writers said no when ask about making john green lantern

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  138. even if not anywhere near true that fantasy is much better then the Ryan Reynolds reality.

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  139. The article seems to imply different.

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  140. There are only 8 more episodes this season of "Arrow" right ?
    ( 1 - The 100, 7 - Reign & The Vampire Diaries, 8 - Arrow, Jane the Virgin, Supernatural, & The Originals, and 9 - The Flash )

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  141. God that sounds depressing. Do I want to have a theory about this? Ehhhh, Idts. = /

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  142. Yes, I believe there are 8 left, since arrow and flash are having 23 episodes this season.

    Is Supernatural having 22 episodes this season or 23. Because it's moving to Wednesdays with Arrow. But Arrow aired its 15th episode already, and Supernatural's 15th airs on the week Arrow is having its 16th. There is a week off for both shows, so Supernatural either runs a week after all the shows, or it has one less.

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  143. This article is 4 weeks old. MG recently said the John Stewart thing will not happen and DC has other plans for the character.

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  144. The 100 has 16 episodes, Reign, Jane the Virgin, The, Originals, & The Vampire Diaries have 22 episodes and Arrow and The Flash have 23 episodes this year. Not sure if Supernatural has 22 or 23 episode.

    ( Arrow - #16 airs in two weeks, Jane the Virgin - #15 airs next week, Reign - #16 airs next week, Supernatural - #15 airs in two weeks, The 100 - #16 airs next week, The Flash - #15 airs in two weeks, The Originals - #15 airs this week, and The Vampire Diaries - #16 airs this week )

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  145. Hi ODA!! Look at this twitt from David Ramsey...i'm speechless...

    Long Live..

    TEAM ARROW! https://instagram.com/p/z1kmXZl7Ap/

    What do you think??

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  146. Aww. Adorable. They better not kill any of these guys permenantly. I miss Arrow cave fun times.

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  147. It's me or Felicity looks odd, like not in character...the guys looks normal to me...well maybe i'm thinking too much but when a saw this photo my first reaction was: She's the one living Arrow...

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  148. Her hair is down maybe thats why. But EBR never dresses that way unless on events. So I guess all of them are in costumes for the show. This photo must have been taken before the foundry was blown up.

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  149. The title definitely makes me a bit sad. I just hope Felicity, Dig, and Lyla are all safe.

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  150. Well, yesterday I saw one of Marc's tweets replying to someone saying that someone dies in "Broken Arrow".

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  151. I love how many comments Arrow posts generate lol!

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  152. "broken arrow" and "fallen" doesn't sound to me like it's about leaving. definitely sounds like death. maybe the writers found some sense and kill off Laurel, that would be great.

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  153. But if you rig the camera to the chest of a character to get that type of shot, where "the world is spinning" HEAVY SHIT is going to happen. Its either absolute despair or loosing his mind

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