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Arrow - Episode 3.16 - The Offer - Producer's Preview

Mar 16, 2015

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74 comments:

  1. MercyMarch 16, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Great, they are getting a hand on the "spoiling too much", there is nothing new in the vid.
    Glad we are getting to the bottom of Olivers self-doubting. I actually like it but until now it was way to broody and took too long for my taste (never thaught I would complain about missing Olivers monolouges)

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  2. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Here we go again, most surprising, most shocking, best episode evaaah. *rolls eyes*


    OLIVER SNAP OUT OF IT :\

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  3. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Oh honey! I don't know what to say to you. Think about our beloved Starling City and get out of this funk you are in. I think you need to get laid.

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  4. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    What?!!! the boy is literally oozing misery. He needs some lovin.

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  5. PlatynumMarch 16, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Well...between Ra"s messing with his head and Felicity turning down his love what do you expect?He should soon be out of this funk..lol

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  6. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    He better. Its hard to see your protagonist wallow in misery.

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  7. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    There are other things that would make him less misrable. Like not being a stubborn a**. Not protecting Malcolm. Declining Ra's Al Ghul's offer. GOING BACK TO BEING A HERO! Getting QC back. And did you really have to phrase it like that??

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  8. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    LMAO. I was annoyed.

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  9. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    I get that. It's really frustrating to be a fan of Oliver Queen these days lol

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  10. MercyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    Ladies I found out what bothers me about S3. They have all these nice chapters and wanted to built up to the next few episodes, which really look very promising. Only thing they don't know what to do with a season arc, when the season has so many eipsodes.
    Showing Olivers doubts in in The Offer makes total sense to
    me and the way SA is acting makes it more understandable for me - finally Oliver voices his doubts. But the get there, since his return they had to make him totally broody, selfpitying which took way too long. They filled the stretch with interesting story but just let Oliver be broody too long.

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  11. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Koky sweety that all needs work, he should just blow of some steam to start think right. ;-) :-P

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  12. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Oliver's reason for aligning with Malcolm the terrorist was for him to learn and be better so that he can kill Ra's. Because he is not ready or skilled for the job. Then Thea gives Malcolm to LoA and he goes to Nanda Parbat on a suicide mission to save the terrorist knowing he will fail and dragging Diggle along with it. That is what is bothering me. He is not just worried about his role as a protector of Starling City, he is suicidal. A hero can make mistakes but at the end of the day he is supposed to make the right choices. The name league of assassins means it is a league made up of assassins. Why would a hero want to align with a group which has so much blood on their hands. It's very annoying that Oliver is entertaining this idea.

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  13. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 10:17 PM

    Exactly. He will be able to think straight after that. :P

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  14. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    True. This is taking forever. I was feeling really bad for Oliver at first but now it's just annoying. I agree that he should have doubts and clearly I'm a fan of Stephen's acting but the problem is that I'm fed up with all the brooding and the angst AND there's nothing interesting happening to balance this out or make me overlook how boring this is all becoming. And even when the episodes have a "twist" it's so predictable and so underwhelming. Not to mention that most of the storylines this season are just making me angry.

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  15. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:19 PM

    This is the first season were present time Ollie didn't get something on the side.
    Bad writing! Really Bad!

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  16. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    Although he really shouldn't have any doubts. He's a hero and the whole self doubt thing is very annoying. So Ra's beat him, so what? Malcolm beat him into a pulp before. In 2x08 he almost died. That's been his life for the past 8 years!

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  17. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    WOW. You two are just WOW.

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  18. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    If Oliver is okay with it I am ready to offer my services for the sake of everyone's good you know. For science and prosperity.

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  19. nicholasMarch 16, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    So the pay off is not worth of all the angst in your point of view?

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  20. JonMarch 16, 2015 at 10:34 PM

    Before everyone was complaining about Oliver getting too much, now he's not getting enough. There's just no pleasing some folks...

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  21. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    We wouldn't be bitchin if he was getting anything at all! He is on a dry dry run! Even in the fbs.

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  22. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    I understand you completely. If I ever see Oliver I will tell him about you ;-)

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  23. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Don't be like that Koky. Ollie is only human!

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  24. JonMarch 16, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    Going by Ollie's track reckord in the flashbacks, i kinda understand him.

    Shado....dead. Sara....dead (as far as he knows at this time)

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  25. MercyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    yeah it's like they forgot that Oliver has already passed selfdoubts with Slade..... It's like hey we have 5 season of development to film, we forgot to squeez out the selfdoubts and making his relationship to Felicity suffer as much as Laurels had.

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  26. MercyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    oh and to Malcom, making this such a painful story is because they dragged out the arc storyline way too much.

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  27. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    Honestly he probably just forgot how to do it indoors. ^_^

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  28. ohlisaMarch 16, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    Someone give this guy a hug, and then a swift kick in the ass.

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  29. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    And that's the only way human beings can be happy? I want him and Felicity to be a couple not for that. But to be official partners, to have a future together, to have a family and love and comfort each other and make each other happy. Relationships and happiness aren't about getting some! I like how Oliver's "love life" is being written this season. It's nice to see after he had a thing with every woman he wasn't related to, including his father's mistress!!! That was wrong and gross on so many levels.

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  30. SparkyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    Are we sure they arent Marc Guggenheim?

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  31. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    Every episode I think the same thing. He needs someone to give him a hug and tells him that everything is going to be ok. The fact that the memory of his mother he saw before he "died" was her hugging him speaks volumes. Then the same person should smack him over the head.

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  32. JonMarch 16, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    Only the students can defeat the master, remember :)

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  33. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    Right????? I'm getting a weird deja vu reading their comments.

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  34. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    If the pay off is him accepting the offer then NO!

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  35. SparkyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    We dont need more trolls lol.

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  36. O D AMarch 16, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    You know I was joking right? ;)

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  37. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbg6zdDXqy1r79k9c.gif

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  38. Bruce_FMarch 16, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    Everyone on the show except Diggle is miserable. It's not just Oliver. Season 3 is where Arrow threw the idea of balance off the top of a skyscraper.

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  39. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    Yup :D

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  40. ShannonMarch 16, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    I'm annoyed by this episode already.

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  41. Bruce_FMarch 16, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Marc, buddy. You've got to cool it with all this hyperbole.

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  42. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Just to be clear I was kidding as well.
    Even though I love your thoughts Ollie is far away from being ready for a relationship.
    To calm you down I'm way to much into Olicity these days.
    I even heard a song recentnly and thought it would be perfect for their first double I love. Run run Kelly Clarkson ft John Legend. That song reminds me so much about them.

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  43. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    I know that he's not ready. I said it before I enjoy the slow burn and Oliver needs to grow up and get his act together. The problem is that with every episode we seem to be going backwards not moving forward. And not just on the romantic front.


    The John Legend song that really reminds me of them is "All of Me". It is so them.


    A personal request: Don't call him the O word in front of me.

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  44. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    You don't like when I call him Ollie? Why?
    I agree they are trying to pull of a downroad for Oliver but just as with Laurel it really doesn't work for him or the show.
    "All of me" is so overused, I can't hear the song for till the end of the year.

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  45. Bruce_FMarch 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    It's not hard to watch him wallow. The guy has been through some really hard stuff. A little wallowing is reasonable. What's really difficult is watching your protagonist wallow in that misery for almost 3 full seasons. Plus, there's now an entire group of people that take terms yelling at him and second guessing him every week. I honestly don't know how Oliver finds the ambition to get out of bed sometimes.

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  46. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    I don't like when anyone calls him that. It represents Pre Island Oliver and that guy was a D-bag. That's not who he is anymore.


    It's not working at all and they are dragging it.


    Luckily I only heard it on an Olicity vid so it's not overused for me.

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  47. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 11:50 PM

    I like calling him O, cause it sounds softer. Cause even though he went truth a lot of messy, awful stuff he saved he has that softer side, that Toby, S01 Laurel and Moira saw as well.
    I don't even think about him as the pre Island Oliver.

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  48. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:56 PM

    The only living person allowed to call him the O word is Thea. Because he wasn't awful to her when he was O :D

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  49. Spindae2March 16, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Hahaha. I want call him O when I reply to U. ;-)

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  50. KokyMarch 16, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    ThanQ lol

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  51. GraydonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:01 AM

    Hey it sparked realization in Ray. So if Oliver were to have sex with Felicity perhaps it would jolt him from his crisis.

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  52. JonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    In the comics pretty much every one of his family/loved ones call him Ollie.

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  53. Spindae2March 17, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    I think it even humanizes him to a certain degree. Oliver is a strong name while U wouldn't call someone Ollie if you really wouldn't know him well.

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  54. JonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:05 AM

    The only one who doesn't call him Ollie is Batman, the old grouch.

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  55. GraydonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:07 AM

    It's not gonna be.

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  56. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:08 AM

    I didn't mind at all when they used the name on Smallville, I actually liked it a little. My problem with it is strictly Arrowverse related. I don't want THIS Oliver to be called that.

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  57. JonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    Do you want Oliver to go build a Tin Man suit too? :)

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  58. JonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    You know "The O word" is kinda a euphimism for something else right :)

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  59. ohlisaMarch 17, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    "I honestly don't know how Oliver finds the ambition to get out of bed sometimes."


    Seriously. Someone asked Marc Guggenheim on Tumblr if we were ever going to see Oliver being happy, and he said that all his happy times seem to happen between May and October. These people need to realize that this guy needs to get a win every once in a while. When he's up to his shoulders in quicksand, give him a yank up to his waist at least. Or something, jeez.

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  60. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    I really hope not. Why do you think the last 4 episodes take place at NP? Why would they do there for 4 episodes? I can't find the huge conflict. In season 1 we knew he was going to fight Malcolm. Season 2 Slade. Now what? They're supposed to take down the league?

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  61. GraydonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:12 AM

    Probably yeah. It's probably gonna be a push them back kinda win though.

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  62. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    I have no idea what you are talking about and I don't think I'd want to know.

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  63. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    What do you mean?

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  64. JonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:14 AM

    I shall spare your pure uncorrupted mind then.

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  65. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    I'm gonna pretend that the comment wasn't sarcastic and say thanks.

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  66. GraydonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    I meant it'll probably be about taking down the league. And then Oliver starts calling himself Green Arroa. Dun dun dun. Oh and Sara will probably be revived or some shit like that. More dun dun dun.

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  67. KokyMarch 17, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    "More dun dun dun" lol

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  68. Bruce_FMarch 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM

    Exactly. I don't know why Guggenheim and Co. feel the need to keep Oliver in a perpetual state of inner conflict. There are plenty of external forces creating conflict on a regular basis.

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  69. GraydonMarch 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    Yeah but when you get mortally wounded, kicked off a cliff after fighting a duel to protect your sister (and thereby fail). Combined with the fact that your friends and allies prove they don't need you to protect the city (which is your whole identity), combined with working with your sister's monstrous father who also killed your ex and brainwashed your sister into killing. All of that combined with the women you love rejecting you tends to really chip away at who you are. Especially since everything you did like working with Malcolm and doing everything you can is now mute when she is safe now, relatively. Since 3x09 that was Oliver's driving force, now he has none. So when Ra's al Ghul offers you the chance to have purpose it's a little interesting (no way he'll end up taking it though).

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  70. nicholasMarch 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM

    All good points and the writers made this identity season

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  71. O D AMarch 17, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    See you get me. We only want what is best for the characters.

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  72. O D AMarch 17, 2015 at 9:06 AM

    They really don't understand what audience wants do they? We want to see him get over his troubles one at a time and be a better happy man in the future. For once let the conflict be from outside in the form of a difficult villain. This is tiring.

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  73. lsbloomMarch 17, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    "The most surprising"? Well since everybody called the offer story back when they first said Ra's was coming to Arrow season 3, I'm going with the only interaction that is going to surprise anyone is if they get in hot tubbed up in the Lazarus Pit and start making out.

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  74. O D AMarch 17, 2015 at 7:26 PM

    Happy Birthday!!! *Party time* Am I late in wishing you? Is it Tuesday where you live?

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