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Agents of SHIELD - Episode 2.14 - Love in the Time of Hydra - Sneak Peek

Mar 20, 2015

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169 comments:

  1. klutzy_girlMarch 20, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    Jemma, I love you, but what hell are you doing? And nice job setting off Skye.

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  2. Historical_MaterialistMarch 20, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Skye SMASH!!!

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  3. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    Well I was just asking about this in poster thread. Maybe they were reading it...
    Interesting bit, Jemma really needs to get a handle on her issues over the powers.

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  4. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    In fairness, there's no excuse for her this time, they know Skye reacts to stress/arguements. Having one right in front of her is basically asking for this outcome. It does show in her language as well, still looking at "curing" rath than dealing with it. I know it's a good build up to Civil War but you have to feel for Skye.

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  5. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Ok Jemma, you and i are going to have issues if you keep doing this. Considering you work for SHIELD you should be used to this by now. No wonder Skye will probably decide to leave at some point. I am cheering her on when she comes to that decision.

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  6. KarriMarch 20, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Poor Skye. Jemma's attitude is getting annoying. Fitz is awesome.

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  7. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    It also makes me wonder thinking of spoilers that Skye and Captain America will have something in common, and yet early in the episode Captain America is referenced, I am even more curious what they have in common

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  8. AndreaPMarch 20, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    Happy to see I'm not the only one annoyed at Simmons this second half of the season. Fitz and Skye agree with me.
    This new Simmons attitude towards people with powers is going to bite her in the ass soon. And it's going to make Skye want to leave. I can't wait for both things to happen.

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  9. Luke FarmerMarch 20, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    I think someone will freeze Skye. Sounds stupid, but it fits the thing-in-common thing, and we've already seen one metahuman with this ability

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  10. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    I wonder what her reaction will be when Skye leaves, or if there's any blowback from May.

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  11. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Good point, I wonder what the connection will be, unless it's just something like this (which really wouldn't amount to much). I wonder how the Avengers would react to Jemma's point of view on "Gifted" now.

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  12. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Jemma what the hell?! SERIOUSLY! loving Fitz every episode more and more

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  13. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    but Fitz

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  14. DeanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    I know they are doing to put drama on the show and basically show us once again she isn't on the same page as Fitz anymore but its really annoying how she is acting. She had such a great relationship with Skye. i think when the rest of the team finds out about her secret with Coulson will cause another huge fight on the team and that's when Skye will be done, turn her back and leave. Maybe she will change her opinion then. But i'm afraid they will put Jemma on the other side because of Civil War maybe even make her join the other SHIELD. I hope i'm wrong.

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  15. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    So true, yes there's the point of how others that are gifted have abused their powers, but the stance she's taken is completely stupid. Hell as silly as it sounds she should have been supporting Fitz's more optomistic view of Skye's powers if just to avoid making Skye feel worse about the situation,

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  16. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:50 PM

    do you think Bruce WOULD want to cure himself if given a choice?

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  17. AndreaPMarch 20, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    I think she will feel guilty because she's going to realize that she was being a little bit of a jerk with one of her closests friends. And May, God know what she'll do, I find her impredictable.

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  18. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    i don't think the cabal is the same as the SRA but i get what you mean

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  19. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    It's not like Skye is going around killing every person that she sees! If the SHIELD team is truly her family they should help her and not drive her away, Coulson is even putting more effort into putting her down then helping her (which I thought might happen). Skye, needs to make the choice for herself and leave to try to figure out her powers.

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  20. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    the only one TRULY supporting her is Fitz

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  21. klutzy_girlMarch 20, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    He probably would but that's beside the point. Jemma's just making all these decisions without asking Skye what she wants and upsetting her.

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  22. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:52 PM

    and May

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  23. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    Sh also doesn't even fully understand the extent of Skye.

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  24. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    hmm i would think not anymore actually now that he can finally control The Hulk. When are we getting Jemma back? where are FitzSimmons?!

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  25. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    well May not sure because of the last conversation she and Coulson had

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  26. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    nah she still is, she was clearly upset in the promo about the fact she's failing to help her

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  27. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    Or that she isn't trying to do her best in dealing with her powers, to the point of injuring herself. I can understand why Coulson is has to look at the situation from a Directors point of view, at the same time he has May helping Skye.

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  28. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    but what about her not letting Skye in the field

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  29. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    concern for her, trying to help her get a handle in a productive way, May is clearly team skye on this one

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  30. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    i get he's the Director now but it's not easy seeing him deal like this

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  31. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    That's just being responsible. Even Skye knows that she's not in total control of her powers.

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  32. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    okay if you say so. For me right now it's fully Fitz

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  33. ClaireMarch 20, 2015 at 10:58 PM

    I am just looking at it from Skye's point of view I guess, that is her closest relationship, could you imagine how she would feel, as a character that has been abandoned her entire life if she found out her father-figure and her closest friend were working on a plan to potentially put her down?

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  34. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    she would destroy HERSELF

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  35. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 10:59 PM

    That to me is more frustration/concern over her rookies issue. It must be really hard for her to see this happen.

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  36. DeanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:00 PM

    I'm just guessing but I think it's just related how they both don't agree the way SHEILD treats gifted people. If you think about it, it’s something in common with steve’s position in civil war events. The end of last episode was really outstanding about showing the brutal way Coulson dealt with the gifted. Even if Skye isn't a bad person she is on the other side now and she might not be able to control her powers so she is scared. The fact they are looking for ways to contain/kill her if necessary won't help either.

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  37. AndreaPMarch 20, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    I sometimes just want to slap her right in the face and wake her up, Simmons is losing herself and her friends because she's scared of what she can't understand or doesn't have a scientific explanation.
    There's so little honesty right now, I think that's a huge problem with SHIELD, and now more than ever they need to tell the truth to each other, but we know that's not going to happen.
    We'll have to wait and see how things go.

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  38. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    He's not actually trying to make things worse for Skye. He;s just reasonable looking at the fact that they now have a completely unknown force at play.

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  39. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    it doesn't help that she sounds more professional than worried

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  40. Luke FarmerMarch 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    He tried, and later accepted "the other guy" was a part of him, allowing him to take down the Abomination. I don't think he would try and cure himself now, especially as he's in control now.
    I do think Bruce would be the ideal person to help control her power.

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  41. LouMarch 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    Fitz is a Hulk fanboy by the sounds of it, which just makes me love him anymore. Though Simmons is right Bruce would take the cure because Hulking out and hurting his friends is still his greatest fear even with the control he had over Hulk in Avengers. But as for Skye, its too early for her really, she needs time to see if there is a way to control her powers safely or not.


    Simmons is totally going to be on the Stark side of Civil War though.

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  42. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:03 PM

    remember how they used to deal with unknown forces before the Uprise?

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  43. pink_tentacleMarch 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    she was just concerned about Skye but May is supporting her all the way... also i so hope she will find a way to help Skye (like the promo suggested) and get her the vibranium #pleasewritersmakeithappen:D

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  44. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    that would work, definitely

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  45. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    first Stark now Jemma? don't like it one bit

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  46. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    where's vibranium anyway

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  47. pink_tentacleMarch 20, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    I don't know, i think it gets a little obvious that the 'new' SHIELD will probably the SHIELD of Hill and Stark and that Simmons, Bobbi and Mack will be part of it...

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  48. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    I wonder will Jemma feel guilty? Or will she see Skye leaving to go with the other Inhumans as something that validates her concerns? I bet May won't be too happy if Skye leaves beacuse of an argument or something.

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  49. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    i don't see that cabal as the same as the SRA

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  50. LouMarch 20, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    I personally hated the entire Civil War arc in the comics, everyone acted like assholes and it just messed it all up but alas its happening in some form or another in the MCU. So prepare to hate some of your favourites and despair when others get hurt or killed. Sighs.

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  51. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    They as a team tried to understand, but it's niave not to think that somewhere within Shield some group was tasked at looking at ptions to contain people on the Index (i'm presuming the Index is the same thing referenced in the Avengers Lab scene?). If this had happened without Hydra I'd bet Fury would have sombody doing the exact samething. It's just now the team has to do it.

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  52. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    killed?!!!! what are you talking about?!!! i already kind of hate Tony after the rumors about Natasha so i'm ready for him

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  53. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    don't remember that Avengers scene but yeah Fury is a good guy but a VERY gray good guy so it wouldn't surprise me

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  54. pink_tentacleMarch 20, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    africa

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  55. LouMarch 20, 2015 at 11:11 PM

    Well in the comics Captain America dies as a result of Civil War and then Tony feels terrible and then Bucky gets angry but takes on the Captain America title for a while and eventually in true comics style Cap comes back and relationships are mended. Steve dying in Cap 3 seems pretty likely (and then he would return in time for Avengers: Infinity War Part 2)

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  56. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:11 PM

    huh, is it with Black Panther? LOL

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  57. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    is Steve confirmed to be in Infinity Wars part 1 and 2?

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  58. pink_tentacleMarch 20, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    actually there is a connection in the comics to it, heh

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  59. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    oh wow LOL i was just kidding, cool ha!

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  60. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    When they are talking about how Shield monitors people with gifts/abilities/skills (remember Stark going "I feel threatened"). There's no question Fury would have ben looking at how to counter Inhumans, (earthquakes, teleporation, hell of a lot more than a chick with blades for fingernails). I don't think it's gray to be doing this it's worse case planning (for example we've seen Skye dismantle a gun, if she could control that how do you counter her if she went bad?)

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  61. LouMarch 20, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    Nope, no character is yet but Chris Evans has two more films left on his current contract, Cap 3 and another Avengers film. Popular theory is a lot of the main Avengers will be sitting out Part 1 for various reasons and other superheroes like Black Panther, Spider-man, Doctor Strange, Hawkeye will be around. But as things getting incredibly bad (and really Thanos destroying everything is as bad as it can get) then in Part 2 our beloved original gang come back and help fight. All just theories for now and its a long way off still.

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  62. AndreaPMarch 20, 2015 at 11:15 PM

    You know, now that you say it, that could happen too. When Skye leaves, if things are still like this, she could be like in like an I told you so attitude. May clearly cares about Skye, so she obviously won't be happy if the reason she decides to leave is because of someone from the team.

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  63. MonjiaMarch 20, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Good job Jemma seriously I love you but compare Skye to the Hulk, good call and Fitz I love you more and more.

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  64. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Hasn't he been fairly clear as well that he's not going to add any other movies onto the contract?

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  65. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Yeah that's just asking for issues when you know that she has issues with stress environments.

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  66. Buy SellMarch 20, 2015 at 11:17 PM

    Whats cabal and sra?

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  67. LouMarch 20, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Well he said it in one interview that after his contract is up he may give up the Shield so to speak but then later he said he would be willing to do more. I could see Cap dying in Cap 3, coming back in IW Part 2 but then just stepping down as a hero and handing over the Cap title to someone else, either Bucky or Sam.

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  68. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:20 PM

    It could go either way, particularly if more of the Inhumans show themselves when Skye is leaving the team. Until she gets over her kneejerk response to Inhumans she and Jemma are on two different paths.

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  69. MonjiaMarch 20, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    Thar's asking for more troubles in a selfish way.

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  70. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Oh sure, you can already see that conflict in both her nightmare in the Cage (being killed) and when she watched May and Coulson taking down the other gifted.

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  71. BettyMarch 20, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    "well, Hulk saved the world last I checked" Fitz once again nailed it :D <3

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  72. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Yeah, but she probably thinks that Skye is as negative about it as she is. Anyway, Simmons is just saying that because she doesn't understand how it works, what she DOES know is it can cause earthquakes and hurt her friend (Skye) and messing around with it, even with good intentions can end pretty badly so I don't blame her for being negative about it.

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  73. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    But she does know that Skye has been fundamentally changed by this event. I'm fairly sure she knows there's no way to undo the changes. So instead she should trying to help instead of being negative about it.

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  74. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Simmons isn't wrong about her thinking, she's basically telling Fitz that trying to control it can be dangerous and that's not untrue is it? Of course she's against the powers, she doesn't understand them, but she knows that it hurt Skye that it can cause earthquakes, she'll change her mind eventually but for now, she's not wrong, she's trying to protect the people she cares about, Skye included.

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  75. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Though given her response to Skye bringing up the Avengers Jemma may have a different view on that as well.

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  76. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    But she is wrong, it's the uncontrolled nature of the powers thats a threat to everyone. Yes the trial and error of this means that Skye hurt herself. But considering what would happen to Skye if she doesn't get control, the trial and error is the better option. Her suggestion to Andrew shows that she's still trying to suppres the situation without even knowing what the outcome might be.

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  77. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    She IS trying to help her, she made something to slightly subdue her powers and is treating her injuries, I'm sure she's looking up a way to subdue them completely. THAT is Jemma's way of helping right now with her current mindset.

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  78. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:37 PM

    when i saw those braces i got so PISSED OFF!!!!

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  79. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:39 PM

    Jumping straight to lets give her drugs even though we know her powers are reacting to her mental state isn't helping. I can't see how that would helpSkye not set off her powers, but instead increase the chanes along with reducing her ability to control them (yes we know now that she wasn't but at the time they thought she was)

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  80. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    oh now i remember, now that you put it that way, but what way IS the right way?

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  81. Bruce_FMarch 20, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    It's disheartening to see a scientist like Jemma give in to fear and ignorance. She might as well cut to the chase and go sign up for the "new" SHIELD.

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  82. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Bucky's still coming down from being a Winter Soldier but it's not right Captain America IS Steve Rogers no one else

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  83. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    why are you guys comparing the cabal to the SRA?

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  84. ivanMarch 20, 2015 at 11:45 PM

    the cabal's the so-called "real" SHIELD and the SRA is the Superhero Registration Act

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  85. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    I was ecstatic! Don't you realize that those are eventually going to transform into the arm stabilizers she wears in the comics? Sure it's subduing her powers for now, but later on when Simmons' view changes guess what her and Fitz are going to make?

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  86. Bruce_FMarch 20, 2015 at 11:47 PM

    Probably because Captain America and The Avengers are doing the Civil War storyline and SHIELD falls in line with the films.

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  87. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    I'm not saying Simmons shouldn't be offering a different sort of help, what I'm saying is that it's not like she being inconsiderate, she doing the best she can. People shouldn't chastise her for it.

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  88. sparky42March 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    She knows now how Skye would have taken her comments in the Isolation cell, the clean up in the rec room,, and now she's comparing Skye to the Hulk, even if she's trying to help that is being inconsiderate (particularly after the iso comments). Even if she disagrees with Fitz's view there are plenty of other ways to say it than how she phrased it. The truth is even if medically she's trying to do the best as she sees it for Skye, in her interactions with her she isn't helping at all.

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  89. Beatriz MorenoMarch 20, 2015 at 11:57 PM

    See, I completely agree with that! Everyone is going to realize that eventually (except for Fitz who already has), but you can't blame their scared reactions can you? I just can't wait for the moment when everyone on the team is going to be accepting of it and Skye will have control and the superhero jokes will be awesome!!!

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  90. ChristinaMarch 20, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    I'm not sure he'd return though. I get the feeling that he'd be killed off for good.

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  91. ChristinaMarch 21, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Think it's too much to hope that Fitz will up and leave with Skye too? Both of them need to get away from Jemma.

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  92. FK9March 21, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    Well, Fitz and Simmons aren't getting along exactly, but at least they're talking more or less normally.

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  93. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 12:13 AM

    I'd say trying to help people in Skye's situation as much as possible and with as much understanding as they need, while at the same time planning for the worst case situation. They are charged with protecting the world from the dangers that are out there, and we have seen more than a few gifted that have gone bad (yes there's the question of how much the Index might have played in making them go that route, no denying that).

    Think about it from Coulson side as Director, there's an unknown force that two advanced alien races seem to be concerned about the existance of, calling them weapons, they have no idea of numbers, policies, capabilities...

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  94. thi86March 21, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    omg, the writers are seriously changing Simmons so much in 2B, and now they are messing the skimmons relationship too. ugh. I love Fitz making parallels about Skye and Captain America. And althought i get the part the Simmons says about Skye and Hulk ( saying it's relative to the hulk situation in a sense that her powers are more destructive than stable), it was so rude to say this like that. Come on Simmons babe! You were always one of my favorites, plis..come back to the old Simmons!!!

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  95. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 12:20 AM

    As I've said though, Jemma's not just reacting scared, in her interactions with Skye she's using language that is at best unkind, at worst almost deliberately hurtful. What's she going to do if/when she gets over her issues "sorry I thought you were a monster that should have been eradicated!". If she disagreed with Fitz she should have said so after they left Skye not right in front of her when they know how it could set her off (particularly as Skye I'm presuming has now stopped internalising her reaction/ or that she hasn't and having a fit in front of her is causing her to further injury herself.

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  96. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    Particularly as either Skye isn't internalising her reaction (thus risking the base) or she still is and thus she's injurying herself because of Simmon's comments. She and Fitz should have had that argument away from Skye at the very least.

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  97. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 12:25 AM

    If she's going to the Inhumans, I very much doubt that Fitz can come. Not too mention that I doubt Skye wouldn't want him with her when she's going to be learning about her powers.

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  98. MbsbMarch 21, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    Maybe she also can't get drunk anymore.


    Just kidding.

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  99. FK9March 21, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    It's really startling, the role reversal that's happened with Fitz here. In the first season, he was the only one on the team who refused to accept that Ward was a bad guy and now he's the only one on the team who really seems to understand how to handle Skye's situation the right way. Fitz has gone from being the naive one to the wisest dude in the room.

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  100. Victoria LlanosMarch 21, 2015 at 12:47 AM

    Poor Skye! I want to hug her so bad right now!!!

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  101. ChristinaMarch 21, 2015 at 12:55 AM

    Stop making sense - I like my fantasy world where Fitz leaves with her!
    (But for the record, I do agree with you.)

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  102. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    The thing with Simmons is that she separates Skye from her powers in the sense that Bruce Banner is an excellent person, but the Hulk is dangerous and unpredictable, which is true of the Hulk and is true of Skye's powers. She's not down casting Skye, she's down casting her powers, she doesn't see that if you sort of talk bad about one then you're talking bad about both. She'll realize, eventually hopefully after this scene.
    Besides, Simmons said "right now, it's more comparable to the Hulk" which obviously doesn't mean forever. Simmons isn't being a bad friend, she's just rationalizing the situation, she's helping in HER way, in the only way she knows how and I agree with you, right now she's not the help Skye needs, in fact I'm fairly convinced that no one in SHIELD is.

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  103. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    In no moment did she say she wants Skye eradicated. And she's not being unkind either, she's saying Skye has a dangerous power that she didn't ask for, and that, yeah, at the moment is uncontrollable and unpredictable, she's not blaming Skye or badmouthing her. I agree she should be positive about it, but that's a lot to ask for given recent events, it's not like she's trying to hurt Skye.

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  104. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 1:10 AM

    That's true, but Fitz KNOWS what it's like to change, so does May which is why they're both in the best position to help.

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  105. greenlatopia1 .March 21, 2015 at 1:38 AM

    are they intentionally making simmons obnoxious ? because it's working ...

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  106. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 1:50 AM

    Skye saw her unvarnished reaction to Raina's change. It's a bit much to sugggest that she can just forget what Jemma said, or separate it between Jemma wanting Raina dead but willing to accept Skye. She is being unkind when you consider all the scenes of the episodes together. She has demonstrated that she's not ok with the change that Skye has undergone, and no I don't see her splitting it between Skye the person and Skye the gift.

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  107. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then and see what happens.

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  108. arrowaosMarch 21, 2015 at 2:34 AM

    Oh god Simmonsshut up!
    Fitz is so cute down low ha itssad that iI absolutely cantstad

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  109. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:35 AM

    Steve can't get drunk?

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  110. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:37 AM

    her Gauntlets? WE know that but in the show it feels like they're inhibiting her powers, restraining her and i hate that

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  111. MbsbMarch 21, 2015 at 2:37 AM

    Yep. As mentioned in Captain America: The First Avenger, when he was at the destroyed bar, mourning Bucky's "death".

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  112. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:38 AM

    except Fitz

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  113. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:39 AM

    whoa! i didn't know that, does he have accelerated metabolism?

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  114. MbsbMarch 21, 2015 at 2:40 AM

    Yes, Peggy mentions that right after Cap states that he can't get drunk.

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  115. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:40 AM

    huh cool

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  116. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:44 AM

    yeah i guess and it's definitely understandable but and i HATE agreeing with Cal but it's like they're being tagged and not given freedom and never given a benefit of the doubt. Like they're waiting for them to go bad so they can either kill them or contain them

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  117. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:47 AM

    huh May DID change didn't she? but it's still not the same level of support that Fitz has

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  118. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:50 AM

    hmm that makes sense, so you think this is going to FULLY delve into Civil War? not just the introduction of the Inhumans? and the so-called "real" SHIELD is a huge part of it?

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  119. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 3:03 AM

    I'm not disagreeing with you about that. I think it's another one of the benefits of having AoS to exapnd the universe. Iron Man can go nuts at his expo, Thor can level a small town, Hulk can level a few blocks and in the movies we see Shield protecting/helping them to some degree. In AoS however we see a guy with a relatively small power of fire being hounded for use of his gift to the point where he snaps. Not too mention the worse examples we've seen. Are the Shield protocols right? Now we get to see it from an agents POV when see's on the other side.

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  120. sparky42March 21, 2015 at 3:06 AM

    They've already shown a willingness to let AoS run with the Inhumans, and to be honest if you just go with the Movies, is there enough stresses to create the Civil War? Letting AoS build the Inhumans and/or gifted that are pissed at their treatment (or maybe even the Index getting out to the general public) might help build the issue...

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  121. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 4:07 AM

    huh very good point. This show was much simpler when they were dealing with small potatoes and now we're dealing with moral and psychological issues

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  122. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 4:14 AM

    oh wow you're completely right, because if it's in the movie it'll just be around a half hour of build-up and then the climax while if they start it on AoS it's a longer build-up and it'd have more of an impact on the audience and it would feel earned not just squashed into a 2-hour movie right?

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  123. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 4:16 AM

    true, they're not avoiding each other anymore. Loved them on Tuesday's episode talking about Andrew and May

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  124. Justin ValdesMarch 21, 2015 at 4:32 AM

    Is it too late to theorize that HYDRA secretly brainwashed Jemma when she was infiltrating them? I really don't like seeing her like this :/ And I still believe that it will be Fitz who will be the person that builds Skye's gauntlets so that she can get a better handle on her powers. It will just make me love him even more.

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  125. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 4:53 AM

    no it's the aftermath form the mid-season finale. I always thought Fitz would make the gauntlets since he's tech

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  126. Justin ValdesMarch 21, 2015 at 5:02 AM

    Me too but I'm a little worried because Fitz is still going through some aphasia and the side effects of the coma (twitching of the fingers for example). He's definitely going to need some help though.

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  127. fan2000March 21, 2015 at 6:23 AM

    Civil war is going to be so awesome! Can hardly wait! We know there is gonna be division. We know Black Widow sides with Tony! Tony goes after all the super heroes who go into hiding. OMG! Looks like Jemma is going to be on Tony's side!

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  128. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 6:30 AM

    It IS inhibiting her powers, I just mean it's the first step towards the creation of something that will help her USE her powers instead of stop them.

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  129. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 6:37 AM

    Well, Skye is going to feel EXACTLY as Coulson felt, isn't that basically what May did to him last season, planned to kill him off if he lost control, as much as it pained her?

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  130. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 6:42 AM

    I disagree, Fitz won't be able to help Skye control her powers, and that's a huge part in her accepting them, he might want to help her in that respect, but I think only the inhumans can, which is why I think Skye will leave, she has to.

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  131. BettyMarch 21, 2015 at 7:05 AM

    I'm sure she'll come around eventually :)

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  132. Anna BenderMarch 21, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Oh Fitz/Simmons don't argue with each other. ...don't you get it? You're upsetting Skye and that leads to earthquakes...so SHUT UP...And Jemma, get yourself a new attititude, 'cause you're soooo annoying. Fitz, you rock (and you're my new personal hero).

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  133. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 9:01 AM

    Inhumans they might teach her to use it for evil! come on Gordon has saved two villains: Raina and Cal. They're not the people to help her

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  134. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 9:03 AM

    hmm i guess, how do the Gauntlets work? do they inhibit her powers or do they let her use the full extent of her powers?

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  135. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 9:07 AM

    that's true and i don't want Mack ANYWHERE near Fitz so yeah Jemma would definitely help him, i haven't seen Fitz's fingers twitch though

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  136. ivanMarch 21, 2015 at 9:08 AM

    no Natasha sides with Steve, and i hope Jemma sides with Steve too

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  137. Gaia Di LorenzoMarch 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM

    hope May won't give up on Skye. I want May to have Coulson's back and I hope Coulson refers to her as the only one he can trust. Philinda forever

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  138. Buy SellMarch 21, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    Ahh thankyou!! Civil wars comingg haha

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  139. DeanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    Doesn't look like she will. At least for now. Skye might change her opinion.

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  140. DeanMarch 21, 2015 at 2:24 PM

    It's like the show runners hate all the shipping relationship from the show so they are slowing destroying all of them. Looks like is their gol. Making all viewers suffers. Nobody is safe. Not even Philinda. They had rock moments in the past and i wouldn't doubt more trouble will be coming. At this just FitzSkye is saving us. lol

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  141. Bertha StronghamMarch 21, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    I feel like the show is taking too long to explore Skye's powers....as well, I am totally confused as to why the no-eye'd Inhuman did not or does not interact with Skye, given he was able to sense Raina's changed Inhuman status.

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  142. JamieMarch 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Actually I think it's because he's waiting for Skye to realize that SHEILD can't help her and she needs to start her new life not focus on her previous one. Remember Raina? She was about to kill herself because she accepted that she would never be the same again. I don't think Skye fully accepted that which is why Gordon hasn't swooped in yet. Once Skye accepts who she is now and embraces her changes she would not be ready to handle the training that goes with mastering her powers

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  143. fan2000March 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    In the comics she sides with Iron man. I imagine they are gonna stay true along who sides with who. They have already been leading up to her explanation as to why she sides with Ironman. In the Avengers, she tells Hawkaye she has been compromised meaning her identity, and she has got to make sure LOKI goes down. Then in the Winter Soldier; she evolves regarding her identity. In fact her and Steve becomes friends and theres conversation about trust and her past, real name, etc between the two. Towards the end of Winter Soldier, Natasha chooses to have her identity exposed to save the world. Robert Redford tries to get in head about it and tries to convince her it would be a mistake "if she pushes the button everyone will know who she really is" but she says something and goes and pushes the button.
    In the comic books she sides with Tony. I think that she really believes that superheroes with powers can actually hurt the world if left unchecked and that is what she is gonna tell CAP. Eventually everyone LATER after the death of a superhero change their mind and decide CAP is right. I wonder who in the movie is gonna die. AND I don't think its CAP because he is written for additional movies. They are taking certain parts of the comics and adapting. Jemma is definitely be set up for Tony Stark's side.

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  144. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    C'mon, now you're being just as judgmental as Simmons is :) Gordon doesn't KNOW Raina is evil and considering her manipulative ways I doubt he'll know any time soon. Plus he didn't SAVE Cal, he kept him from making too much noise and exposing the inhumans, he didn't even seem to like Cal. I think the inhumans are more of they're own group, they're probably not to fond of normal people considered how they're treated, but I don't think they're bad.


    Besides, they can't teach Skye to use it for evil, they can teach her to control it, but what she does with it is her choice, do you really think Skye would use it for evil if they told her to?


    That scene with Gordon as a young boy... the inhumans seemed alright, they looked like they really cared for each other. They might not get along with SHIELD in the long run, especially with Raina there to influence them, but I don't think they're BAD for Skye.

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  145. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    It's not really clear to me in the comics, I mean she can cause a WHOLE lot of destruction there so I don't think it inhibits her powers... How I think it will work in the show is it'll be used to help her direct her powers through her hands, as for turning it on and off, I'd say that's on her to learn.

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  146. StefanieMarch 21, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    Oh, just shut up, Jemma!

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  147. DeanMarch 21, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Plus If they wanted to cause damage it would compromise their anonymity. Inhuman have been around for ages and yet nobody knows about them so i wouldn't call them evil. Gordon would also let Cal do whatever he was planning.

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  148. mcgregormaxMarch 21, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    I like Simmons’s (and Mack’s) anti-geek altitude towards powers
    and those who have them for both can be extremely dangerous, it is a realistic attitude
    to have. But like Fritz I want the show to start having Skye learn to use her
    powers and begin the transmission from Skye to Quake.

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  149. Beatriz MorenoMarch 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Exactly!

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  150. ivanMarch 22, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    hmm okay i guess that's cool, but i don't like the way it's been compared to the bad way

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  151. ivanMarch 22, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    hmm okay you're right, i guess i thought they DID know who Raina is because they seem all-knowing. Speaking of Cal they could've just killed him

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  152. ivanMarch 22, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    ISN'T letting Cal whatever he plans to do evil?

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  153. ivanMarch 22, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    so you;re Natasha DOES side with Steve? i hope Jemma sides with Steve she HAS to!!!

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  154. Beatriz MorenoMarch 22, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    I meant in the whole assuming powered people are bad or dangerous.


    I don't think they have a reason to kill Cal, I mean other than making a lot of noise, he hasn't really done anything bad to them. Plus they must be aware that he was married to an inhuman and that his daughter is one so they're probably trying to figure out what to do with him.


    I wonder why Gordon didn't take Skye though... hmm...

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  155. Beatriz MorenoMarch 22, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    In do time I'm sure people will see the awesome possibilities: Massage chairs and milkshakes... and saving the world maybe... if you're into that sort of thing... ; )

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  156. Alex ForrestMarch 22, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    I get Simmons' attitude. It makes sense on a purely logical, non-emotional level and I can certainly see how the many negative experiences she's had with aliens (the Chituari virus, and more recently, Kree-Inhuman stuff - possessed!Mack attacking the team, Trip dying, Raina butchering those agents) would make her see things that way. But there are two problems for me:


    1. It seemed to spring out of nowhere. How come we never heard Simmons express such negative feelings about aliens and superpowers during the first season and a half? That harsh speech she gave Skye in 2x11 about an epidemic that needs to be eradicated seemed to come out of nowhere. Even though I do understand why she feels this way, like I said, there should've been more build-up towards it. It feels a little contrived to have Simmons adopt this stance all of a sudden to create conflict when Skye gets her powers.


    2. Even IF she feels this way, she needs to be more sensitive towards Skye. Simmons knows full well that Skye didn't choose to have these dangerous powers and is just as scared of the damage they could do as anyone else. If she's going to be telling Fitz how dangerous and unstable Skye is and that she needs to be "cured", she can at least do it in private. There's no need to say this stuff in front of Skye and upset her even more.

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  157. Alex ForrestMarch 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    My fragile Skimmons heart can't handle much more of this :/

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  158. fan2000March 23, 2015 at 2:41 AM

    In the comics she doesn't and I theorize that in the civil war she will side with iron man....EVENTUALLY everyone sides with Cap even Iron man including Natasha../but at first I believe the writers will stay true to the comics and Black Widow will be on Tony's side

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  159. ivanMarch 23, 2015 at 8:53 AM

    LOL

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  160. ivanMarch 23, 2015 at 9:11 AM

    i'm sorry but i just don't trust them

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  161. Beatriz MorenoMarch 23, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    :) relax, you don't have to apologize or anything, I might be annoying about my opinions, but really I respect everyone's.

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  162. Folie-lexMarch 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Right now IMO the most likely theory, or at least the one I'm subscribibg to, is that they might her stabilizers from vibranium, the metal Cap's shield is made from, because it's good at absorbing vibrations.

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  163. Folie-lexMarch 24, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    I would love it if Bruce would just show up aaaaaaanytime really!

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  164. Folie-lexMarch 24, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    Yup. In Marvel canon, Wakanda (ie Black Panther's home country) is the only place where you can mine vibranium.

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  165. Folie-lexMarch 24, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    While I see Jemma's perspective on comparing Skye with the Hulk (as it was the first thing that popped into my mind when this debacle started) her attitude did kinda rub me the wrong way. She seems so determined to seperate the condition with the actual person she doesn't seem to realise these are actual people she's talking about. Bruce KNOWS it's HIM who carries the Hulk with him. He might call him "the other guy" but he's very well aware they are linked, and seemed to come to grips with that towards the end of TA... and I don't think she is any position to speak in his behalf, or disregard so easily how much he has help in spite of everything. And that she doesn't seem to understand or see that her constant nagging about Skye's powers have done nothing to actually help Skye. She should have realised by know, as doctor and a scientist if not as a friend, that her negative comments have not been at all constructive in keeping Skye's powers in control, as that seems to be her priority here, instead of her friend's well being.


    Lots of Love to Fitz and his attitude though... just when I thought I couldn't love the guy anymore, he goes and does this!

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  166. jimmyMarch 24, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    i know this is mcu but it's a little odd because daisy in the comics daisy is immune to vibration attacks (must make it a nightmare when she's single) but I have a feeling she will appear in cival war. Think its a bit early for vibranium, think that won't come apparent till black panther and wakanda (ruined by the ademantuim search I'm Africa of xmen origins). As people have said the conflict with the gifted is definitely setting up for civil war. I think it may eventually eventually lead to hank pyms prisons for super humans, it's pretty blatant from when they talk about separating the gifted into classes from the modified to the super powered briefly after thier fight with skye's dad. AOS has definitely got a bit more exciting. Would love to see some more cameos although the sif storyline was not really needed

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  167. Elaine DFMarch 24, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    Does anyone noticed that the positions taken by Fitz and Jemma in Skye's situation are actually about Fitz being injured and Jemma wanting him to be back at his normal state, just because she feels responsable for the pod incident and Fitz empathizing with Skye, treating her the way he would like to be treated by Jemma? They're unable to talk about it so they make it all about Skye, like a projection. Of course they both care about Skye, but their stands are a direct reflexion of their own feelings since the pod.

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  168. ivanMarch 24, 2015 at 11:52 PM

    Pym created prisons for super humans?!

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  169. jimmyMarch 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    Yeah, the big house was a tiny prison and inmates were shrunk, can't remember if he designed the cube and him, Tony stark and reed richards created one in another dimension (can't remember the name . There are loads of other ones in the marvel universe but most of them get taken over or destroyed or escaped at different points. I think SWORD may have had thier own too. I haven't followed any comics for a long time so sure someone else would be able to elaborate. There was a 2 season avengers cartoon that features all of them that was good but it doesn't completely follow the comics or mcu

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