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12 Monkeys - Episode 1.10 - Divine Move - Promo + Sneak Peek

Mar 14, 2015

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58 comments:

  1. pheralMarch 14, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Oh god, the future is eating its own tail!! Hope they don't keep Ramse and Cole on opposite sides for too long, so sad to see those two fighting against each other. Especially as Cole's only other real friend is in the past, and well, dead. :(

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  2. ivanMarch 14, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    what does that mean eating its own tail? i know the saying but what does it mean in this instance?

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  3. ivanMarch 14, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    i can't believe the show turned Ramse into a villain, taking Cole's injections AND rigging the compound?!!!!! who is is he now?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  4. pheralMarch 15, 2015 at 12:25 AM

    Lol, i *knew* someone would ask me that after i wrote it, and i'd have to think about why i said it! :P
    It's like... they had this straight forward mission to start with. Something bad happened, and they wanted to go back and stop it. But going back changed the motivations of the future, and every extra trip and change that is made changes the future, which in turn is still going back again and again to change yet more. The future is being warped and in turn is going back into the past and warping it further. It just feels like an infinity spiral, you know? All looping and connected, and heading for a massive collision at some point. To distruction or resolution, i guess.

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  5. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 12:40 AM

    A desperate man. I just hope Cole and co can stop him. I mean, they will surely for the sake of the show, but without something bad happening to him.

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  6. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 12:59 AM

    well that sounds really bad LOL

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  7. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 1:00 AM

    shouldn't he understand Cole though, Cole's fighting to save the woman he loves, same as Ramse

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  8. pheralMarch 15, 2015 at 1:03 AM

    Lol, yeah, it's sure as heck not a comedy show! :P

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  9. pheralMarch 15, 2015 at 1:05 AM

    I think Ramse's main motivation is saving his son. Parents can be particularly single-minded and driven i think, it's a more powerful motive than most others. So although i hate that they're making Ramse into this, i can *kinda* understand his desperate actions to save his son.

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  10. dianeMarch 15, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    I wonder who Ramse recognized in the "Daughters" group.

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  11. dianeMarch 15, 2015 at 1:22 AM

    I couldn't see. Who did Ramse recognize in the 'Daughters" group?

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  12. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 1:35 AM

    no it wasn't a who, it was the 12 Monkeys insignia

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  13. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 1:36 AM

    it was the 12 Monkeys insignia, it wasn't someone

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  14. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 1:55 AM

    I feel exactly the same way.

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  15. Abdul ErectapantsMarch 15, 2015 at 2:39 AM

    How old is cassandra? Is it possible Cole has a child somewhere in the past and the child ended up being Cassandra? He ends up going to 1987 soon and there is another season where anything can happen. Its like every event that happens in this show is interconnected and somehow casssandra is going to end up being coles daughter, girlfriend, (I do not believe sister) or somewhere along the line we'll find out through some crazy time travel logic cassandra is his mother. I understand that cole was a youngster with parents (i think) during the 2017 disease but its still possible (secret adoption).

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  16. JazzyEliMarch 15, 2015 at 3:34 AM

    But, it wouldn't be the other way around??, Cole was born like 30 years after Cassandra, anyway, I don't think so, they will end up being a couple, at least for 5 minutes before one dies.

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  17. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 3:40 AM

    but enough to basically kill his brother? it's beginning to feel like Miles and Monroe from Revolution

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  18. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 3:41 AM

    maybe Ramse really IS Cole and Cassie's son

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  19. JazzyEliMarch 15, 2015 at 4:04 AM

    lol, you're joking, right??

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  20. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 4:51 AM

    half actually LOL

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  21. RomMarch 15, 2015 at 6:17 AM

    Maybe ramse never had a son maybe it's coles because Ramsys girlfriend wanted some new nasty sex with cole.

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  22. magnutudeMarch 15, 2015 at 6:38 AM

    I wonder if thi "Daughters" group is the offshoot of what Jennifer Goines may have started in the past, as I vaguely recall her taking an "anti-male" stance in 2017 outside the CDC when Cole arrived, or something to that effect...

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  23. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 6:52 AM

    yeah she mentioned "daughters" and "army" also "disappearing men" aka Cole and The Daughters are basically an army of women, they're not militaristic, they're herbalists but still an army

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  24. LouMarch 15, 2015 at 9:16 AM

    What I find interesting about the show is that everyone is doing this for deeply personal selfish reasons that you can totally understand from their point of view. Cole wants to save Cassie, Ramse wants to keep his son alive, Doctor Jones wants to see her daughter again.


    In fact Cassie is probably the only one whose motivation right now is to just stop the virus because is a deeply terrible thing.


    I like conflict like that, no one is truly evil, they all have good points but also terrible ways of handling that (like Jones killing all those people).

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  25. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM

    but you agree with Ramse taking Cole's injections and rigging the Splinter compound?

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  26. LouMarch 15, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    I don't agree or disagree, I can understand why he is doing it whether its the right thing to do or not, he believes it is in order to secure the life he has in 2043 with Elena and his son. And that is why I find it interesting, its morally complex.

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  27. ivanMarch 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM

    could see that, but it hurts seeing Cole and Ramse as enemies, it's like brothers turned against each other. Like Miles and Monroe on Revolution

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  28. LouMarch 15, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    It hurts but hey just think of the joy if they manage to be friends again,

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  29. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    It's a possibility.

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  30. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Nah, the writers won't go there.


    They've been hinting at things becoming romantic between them since pretty much the beginning with Ramse telling Cole to get laid than later telling him to take a shot/risk with Cassie. Plus the dance scene and now Cassie calling him James, etc.


    Her being his daughter would be the worst kind of awkward. The writers wouldn't do that.

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  31. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    Girlfriend I believe. No way Cassie's Cole's daughter. The writers wouldn't go there with all the romantic hints plus Ramse earlier telling Cole to take a chance with her. If she were his daughter that would just be super awkward.

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  32. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Half? That's a lot. Unless Cole is really mean and did actually sleep with Ramse's mom Roberta, definitely not.

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  33. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Cole is already maybe 10 years old in 2015, so no, he wasn't born 30 years after Cassie. But that is about the amount of time between their proper places in time. (Her in 2015, him in 2043).

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  34. DanyiMarch 15, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    On Syfy.com they have this thing called The Wall and it says that Cole is 34 and Ramse is 39 it doesn't say how old Cassie though.

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  35. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    Ah okay so he'd be 8 in 2017. Still old enough to remember his parents.

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  36. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    So the virus is the Kalavirus. Interesting.

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  37. BlueStarMarch 15, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    It says on one note Cassie was born in 1980. So in 2015 she's 35.

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  38. JazzyEliMarch 15, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    OK if he was 6 years old in 2015 then he was born in 2009 and if she was born in 1980 so she was 29 years old when he was born, so yes he was born almost 30 years after her, and that means I was right!! ; P

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  39. JazzyEliMarch 16, 2015 at 12:58 AM

    No, Cole is not 38, I mean the character is younger than the actor, I remember Dr. Jones told him in episode 3 I guess, that he was only 7 when the world died, so he doesn't actually remember how it was like, but that she does, because she was 30 something, (I don't remember the actual information I just remember she said he was 7), so if the plague began in 2016 and Cole was 7 then he was born in 2009, I mean the last memory he has of his home (and probably his parents) is that when a glass of milk breaks on the floor and his parents get shot, that kid looks very young, he must be like 5 or 6 years old.

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  40. ivanMarch 16, 2015 at 1:58 AM

    what's so big about the Kalavirus?

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  41. ivanMarch 16, 2015 at 1:59 AM

    CAN they get back?

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  42. BlueStarMarch 16, 2015 at 2:00 AM

    What do you mean? It's just the name for the plague on the Syfy website.

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  43. BlueStarMarch 16, 2015 at 2:02 AM

    Yeah, on the Syfy website Cole is 34. Putting him at 7 or 8 years old in 2017.

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  44. BlueStarMarch 16, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    I got confused by what you said.

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  45. JazzyEliMarch 16, 2015 at 5:36 AM

    Don't worry, it happens to me a lot... ;P

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  46. pheralMarch 16, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    Very good observation, and i too love characters that are doing bad things but that we can understand are not truly evil. No-one is truly evil, they're just trying to stay alive and get what they want/need. Watching them flail around in desperation is fascinating. I think Cole recognises what you're saying here too, that Cassie is a singular positive and selfless point in all this - as he mentioned the two wolves, about Cassie feeding the good wolf.

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  47. gazelaMarch 16, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    If you watch the promo frame by frame it reveals a lot more about the fate of one character. Also I don't think Cassie talks to Ramse (even though it seems that way).

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  48. BlueStarMarch 16, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    I sure da*n hope so. I love the humor Ramse brings when they're being buddies.

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  49. ivanMarch 18, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    oh i thought it was called MT-5 or something?

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  50. ivanMarch 18, 2015 at 12:51 PM

    who?

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  51. gazelaMarch 18, 2015 at 5:48 PM

    I think Elena is in trouble. And also after the promo pics from 1.11-shonin it is certain Ramse travels back! (so maybe it is him with Cassie).

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  52. BlueStarMarch 19, 2015 at 12:57 AM

    I don't think so. I only saw that name.

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  53. ivanMarch 19, 2015 at 6:20 AM

    on The Keys if it's MT-5 i remember them mentioning it

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  54. ivanMarch 19, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    if it goes all the way i'm scared if they can come back

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  55. ivanMarch 19, 2015 at 6:21 AM

    that SOB

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  56. BlueStarMarch 19, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    Maybe that's just what they called it before the disease spread/it's technical name. Most viruses have a common name and Kalavirus sounds more like a common name.

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  57. Zerrick B CarrMarch 21, 2015 at 8:55 AM

    Could Ramsey be the pale psychopath determined to end the world with the virus so that his son could live.

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  58. Mr. EdmodoMarch 24, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Is it just me or is the Sneak Peek for the past episode?

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