Yeah...having a mass murdering monster with a short fuse who doesn't even try to justify his slaughter give advice to a woman who is not in her right mind to distinguish right from wrong is an EXCELLENT idea.
Because I know it's so hard to detect over the internet, I was being sarcastic.
In their defence, I think it's more to do with Klaus seemingly not flipping his switch. It's like how Damon said if you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
Caroline isn't about the killing she as a Vampire never was. She said last week she was very much in control over her Vampirism, it is about the beauty and strength Klaus saw in her as a Vamp. He knows to cherish that beauty and the interaction would be fun.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! "She's not actually hurting anyone." HahaHahahaha Elena that was the dumbest thing you could've said. She didn't even want to give it time. Tisk tisk. Stefan knows better.
Exactly!!! I mean does this girl LIVE in denial town? There's no way to cushion this blow Elena. "No students are missing." Hahahaha what is that??? Oh god, just by those sentences alone I feel like she'll make it worse. Please just go away, stand over there, get some punch or something. Don't talk to Caroline, just let Stefan work it out, call Bonnie bring her into it, and just back away. She can stand in the corner and do that dumb, deer in the headlights glare thing she always does when she's listening in on Carolline's conversations.
Oh that'll go well what with every character hating him. Caroline probably just going to stubbornly lash out like every humanity less vampire and Klaus' own murderous thoughts and impulses (which are better than before mind you) and the general fact that these shows don't crossover very well. I'm basically of the let these shows stay uncrossed variety.
Smh. Sometimes she makes me want to cry. Faceplam. Just for that, now I WANT Caroline to kick her ass. For that enormously dumb comment. Like iI hope Caroline heard that, and fed on Liam afterwards just to spite her.
THANK YOU!!! And at that time her humanity was still on! Granted she didn't want Elena to stop her but STILL. She could've chose another way and she didn't. She wanted Elena stopped for hours.
I watched the scene again and there's seemingly no specific visual cue to tell you if she flipped her switch before or after. However, since Caroline had obviously already made up her mind to turn it off I don't think the distinction is important.
I knew what the "downward spiral" was once they released the title. Lol I vote "the calm" this episode, "the storm" the next episode, and before that episode is over, she's flipped the switch back on. (Thanks to herself, Bonnie and/or Stefan).
I think so too but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe she turned it off while she was hugging Elena because when she said "that's not your choice to make" she looked a bit like she might already turned it off. So I thought maybe she turned it off right before she snapped Elenas neck. The crying before that was real for sure!!
I saw a screenshot from that moment at tumblr and I'm pretty sure it's Kai. I guess he misses killing so he tries again but his new feelings will get in the way.
I NEVER thought I would be excited to see Liam again (I never liked him, and not just because of Delena) but now I am!! Caroline "ate" him hahahah! I can't wait to see that!!
I think the guy with the drill is Kai. I saw a screenshot of that moment on Tumblr and I'm pretty sure it's him. I guess since he couldn't kill Liv he wants to try again with some random girl
I can't wait to see that! hahaha that sounds wrong.. I mean I can't wait to see Kai freaking out because killing is not as much fun as it used to be for him.
You sure? Coz when I paused the video all I could see was the forehead and the hair and it looked a bit like Liam. And there's a lot of people on wikia who think it's him.
Kai trying to kill Sarah just because would be so... random.
I'm not sure if it's Sarah either, but probably is.
Still not sure about Kai, also because I thought this episode Damon was asking Kai for help and Kai was bothering Bonnie, so Kai should be having his hands too full to get involved in skull drilling.
Plus, it being Liam makes for a more interesting story in my head ;)
OK which Characters are going to have a target on their back, recipient of Caroline truth bombs?
Elena? - Caroline to hit her with....Salvatore Brothers relationship, Katherine envy, Jeremy, Liam?
Tyler? - Caroline to hit him with....Past relationship, Klaus - hopefully she won't push him so far that he triggers his werewolf curse?
Damon? - OMG The Sky is the Limit - You name it - acid tongue will fly fast and furious - Past relationship, Relationship with Elena, Relationship with Stefan, Past sins (ie: involved in Lexi's death etc...), who knows she may even suggest hanky banky with Bonnie while they were in the prison world - Yes, I think Damon will be the biggest recipient of Caroline "acid tongue"
Stefan? - Current and Past Relationships with her, Katherine and Elena
Enzo...Bonnie...Matt...etc....no one that gets in her way will be spared.
Wow - this is going to be really interesting - Caroline with No Filter...Letting it Rip
I'm 100% sure. She snapped Elena's neck so she wouldn't stop her from turning it off. I know that scene like the back of my hand. She definitely did it (turned it off ) after. It takes a while (and concentration) to turn off a vamps humanity. She didn't do it while she was talking to Elena, and she surely didn't do it after that quick hug. A vamp's humanity can't be turned off while multi-tasking. By the time Stefan arrived, (we don't know how long it took for him to get there, let's say 10-20 min) Caroline's humanity was turned off. (Hence why she disappeared) I'm thinking after that, (the neck snapping) she went upstairs to change her clothes, then left the house.
I'm thinking the next episode happens the next day, b/c Elena still doesn't/didn't know what was going on until Caroline actually tells her. Which I have to say, that ALSO bothers me! Like Elena knows Caroline snapped her neck, you come to hours later and somehow forget that little detail and the conversation you had with her BEFORE it happened??? How is that possible?? Does this woman get dumber by the second?? I don't get it??? = /
i think caroline with NO FILTER will be the best thing thats happened for a while hahaha after so many emotional episodes, this ones gonna be funny as hell.... let it rip caroline !!!!! go shoot your mouth off !!!!! bahahahhaha
I don't know. I guess we'll have to see the next episode to find out. I can't imagine Elena just went home like nothing happend after Caroline snapped her neck. That would be really stupid.. Maybe she calls Caroline and Caroline lies to her about flipping the switch. Maybe no-humanity Caroline is such a good liar that she manages to convince Elena she didn't turn it off.
I don't know. First I thought she is not going to tell him but then I remembered no-humanity Elena and her little fights with Caroline. Maybe she will pay her back and turn on her. I guess otherwise she would have her fun with some other random guy.
Well Bonnie is back, so apparently Elena wants to go back to ignoring Caroline as much as possible. Such a shame because Elena's last conversation with Caroline in the ep before was pretty good.
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Seems fun! Candice has great crazy eyes!
ReplyDeleteCan't wait to see her get more screen time with this new story.
Hoping for a Klaus reference this episode. I feel like he could be the one to talk some sense into her.
ReplyDeleteYeah...having a mass murdering monster with a short fuse who doesn't even try to justify his slaughter give advice to a woman who is not in her right mind to distinguish right from wrong is an EXCELLENT idea.
ReplyDeleteBecause I know it's so hard to detect over the internet, I was being sarcastic.
In their defence, I think it's more to do with Klaus seemingly not flipping his switch.
ReplyDeleteIt's like how Damon said if you're going to be bad, be bad with a purpose.
I can't wait to see stefan and elena trying to manage/control caroline's behaviour for a change.This should be fun!
ReplyDeleteCaroline isn't about the killing she as a Vampire never was. She said last week she was very much in control over her Vampirism, it is about the beauty and strength Klaus saw in her as a Vamp. He knows to cherish that beauty and the interaction would be fun.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! "She's not actually hurting anyone." HahaHahahaha Elena that was the dumbest thing you could've said. She didn't even want to give it time. Tisk tisk. Stefan knows better.
ReplyDeleteYep. A little common sense goes a long way. There is no scenario in which you can take away someone's humanity and everything will be okay.
ReplyDelete"It's like she's Caroline but she's not" lol This should be fun.
ReplyDeleteExactly!!! I mean does this girl LIVE in denial town? There's no way to cushion this blow Elena. "No students are missing." Hahahaha what is that??? Oh god, just by those sentences alone I feel like she'll make it worse. Please just go away, stand over there, get some punch or something. Don't talk to Caroline, just let Stefan work it out, call Bonnie bring her into it, and just back away. She can stand in the corner and do that dumb, deer in the headlights glare thing she always does when she's listening in on Carolline's conversations.
ReplyDeleteExactly. If you can't understand "vampire - humanity = monster" you should just stand aside and look pretty.
ReplyDeleteOh that'll go well what with every character hating him. Caroline probably just going to stubbornly lash out like every humanity less vampire and Klaus' own murderous thoughts and impulses (which are better than before mind you) and the general fact that these shows don't crossover very well. I'm basically of the let these shows stay uncrossed variety.
ReplyDeleteThat and honestly it'll just hurt both shows plots.
ReplyDeleteSmh. Sometimes she makes me want to cry. Faceplam. Just for that, now I WANT Caroline to kick her ass. For that enormously dumb comment. Like iI hope Caroline heard that, and fed on Liam afterwards just to spite her.
ReplyDeleteCaroline snapped Elena's neck while she was hugging her. That should have told her everything she needed to know.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU!!! And at that time her humanity was still on! Granted she didn't want Elena to stop her but STILL. She could've chose another way and she didn't. She wanted Elena stopped for hours.
ReplyDeleteAre we sure that Caroline hadn't already turned her emotions off when she snapped Elena's neck????
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on that. The very way they portray witches alone on TO sets it aside from VD.
ReplyDeleteIt won't happen. They want Stefan to be her epic love now.
ReplyDeleteDid Caroline snap Elena's neck before or after she turned her humanity off?
ReplyDeleteI'm kinda hoping for after.
Positive. She turned her humanity off after.
ReplyDeleteI watched the scene again and there's seemingly no specific visual cue to tell you if she flipped her switch before or after. However, since Caroline had obviously already made up her mind to turn it off I don't think the distinction is important.
ReplyDeleteBefore she turned it off.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping for after because that makes Caroline look kind of bad - Elena was trying to help her and she goes and snaps her neck.
ReplyDeleteThough I guess that underscores the level of her grief.
I'm still totally for Caroline to keep up the crazy eyes the whole episode.
ReplyDeleteI think it's Enzo with the drill, drilling Sarah. ...wait, that didn't come out right.
Haha, no shit, Bonnie, the crazy eyes should tip you off that's a new, improved Caroline.
ReplyDeleteI want Caroline making charts rating the quality of her victims.
I thought that it was Enzo while watching the first promo but now I'm not really sure.
ReplyDeleteYou're right - i paused the vid and unless Enzo got his Sonic haircut improved, then it's not him. Not sure if it's Kai either, though.
ReplyDeleteIn Season 4 Bonnie whooped Elena's ass when her humanity was off.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Julie brought Bonnie back to do the same to Caroline?
Caroline - with regards to Liam - "I ate him" - interesting comment. Look out...."Here's Caroline"!!!
ReplyDeleteThe calm before the storm...they don't call it downward spiral for nothing.
ReplyDeleteI knew what the "downward spiral" was once they released the title. Lol I vote "the calm" this episode, "the storm" the next episode, and before that episode is over, she's flipped the switch back on. (Thanks to herself, Bonnie and/or Stefan).
ReplyDeleteSo it seems it might be Liam with the drill - so did Caroline compel him to do it or did Enzo (to then rescue her and be a hero)?
ReplyDeleteBut in Season 4 Bonnie was in the middle of her own Dark! arc. Plus, she had a lot of expression magic.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me - is Bonnie going to take back her magic from the teddy bear? Or was the magic from the rock enough?
I think so too but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe she turned it off while she was hugging Elena because when she said "that's not your choice to make" she looked a bit like she might already turned it off. So I thought maybe she turned it off right before she snapped Elenas neck. The crying before that was real for sure!!
ReplyDeleteI saw a screenshot from that moment at tumblr and I'm pretty sure it's Kai.
ReplyDeleteI guess he misses killing so he tries again but his new feelings will get in the way.
I NEVER thought I would be excited to see Liam again (I never liked him, and not just because of Delena) but now I am!! Caroline "ate" him hahahah! I can't wait to see that!!
ReplyDeleteI think the guy with the drill is Kai. I saw a screenshot of that moment on Tumblr and I'm pretty sure it's him. I guess since he couldn't kill Liv he wants to try again with some random girl
ReplyDeleteMaybe the girl its a member of the Gemini Coven and he goes one by one.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to see that! hahaha that sounds wrong.. I mean I can't wait to see Kai freaking out because killing is not as much fun as it used to be for him.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry I also can't wait to see how mental Kai will go in those last eps and Bonnie hopefully killing him ^-^
ReplyDeleteA Bonnie vs Kai showdown would be awesome!! :)
ReplyDeleteIt makes you wonder if they kept Liam around just to support No-Humanity Caroline? That's kinda sad.
ReplyDeleteYea it really is kinda sad. But at least he gets to be back for at least 1 Episode. I thought we would never see him again, like April..
ReplyDeleteYou sure? Coz when I paused the video all I could see was the forehead and the hair and it looked a bit like Liam. And there's a lot of people on wikia who think it's him.
ReplyDeleteKai trying to kill Sarah just because would be so... random.
Well, not 100% but I still think it's him.. but I'm not really sure if this girl is Sarah. She looks a lot like her but still.. a bit different..
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if it's Sarah either, but probably is.
ReplyDeleteStill not sure about Kai, also because I thought this episode Damon was asking Kai for help and Kai was bothering Bonnie, so Kai should be having his hands too full to get involved in skull drilling.
Plus, it being Liam makes for a more interesting story in my head ;)
OK which Characters are going to have a target on their back, recipient of Caroline truth bombs?
ReplyDeleteElena? - Caroline to hit her with....Salvatore Brothers relationship, Katherine envy, Jeremy, Liam?
Tyler? - Caroline to hit him with....Past relationship, Klaus - hopefully she won't push him so far that he triggers his werewolf curse?
Damon? - OMG The Sky is the Limit - You name it - acid tongue will fly fast and furious - Past relationship, Relationship with Elena, Relationship with Stefan, Past sins (ie: involved in Lexi's death etc...), who knows she may even suggest hanky banky with Bonnie while they were in the prison world - Yes, I think Damon will be the biggest recipient of Caroline "acid tongue"
Stefan? - Current and Past Relationships with her, Katherine and Elena
Enzo...Bonnie...Matt...etc....no one that gets in her way will be spared.
Wow - this is going to be really interesting - Caroline with No Filter...Letting it Rip
I'm 100% sure. She snapped Elena's neck so she wouldn't stop her from turning it off. I know that scene like the back of my hand. She definitely did it (turned it off ) after. It takes a while (and concentration) to turn off a vamps humanity. She didn't do it while she was talking to Elena, and she surely didn't do it after that quick hug. A vamp's humanity can't be turned off while multi-tasking. By the time Stefan arrived, (we don't know how long it took for him to get there, let's say 10-20 min) Caroline's humanity was turned off. (Hence why she disappeared) I'm thinking after that, (the neck snapping) she went upstairs to change her clothes, then left the house.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking the next episode happens the next day, b/c Elena still doesn't/didn't know what was going on until Caroline actually tells her. Which I have to say, that ALSO bothers me! Like Elena knows Caroline snapped her neck, you come to hours later and somehow forget that little detail and the conversation you had with her BEFORE it happened??? How is that possible?? Does this woman get dumber by the second?? I don't get it??? = /
i think caroline with NO FILTER will be the best thing thats happened for a while hahaha after so many emotional episodes, this ones gonna be funny as hell.... let it rip caroline !!!!! go shoot your mouth off !!!!! bahahahhaha
ReplyDeletestefans all - my god was elena always this STUPID ? WHAT WAS I THINKING hahaha
ReplyDeleteI don't know. I guess we'll have to see the next episode to find out. I can't imagine Elena just went home like nothing happend after Caroline snapped her neck. That would be really stupid..
ReplyDeleteMaybe she calls Caroline and Caroline lies to her about flipping the switch. Maybe no-humanity Caroline is such a good liar that she manages to convince Elena she didn't turn it off.
I don't know. First I thought she is not going to tell him but then I remembered no-humanity Elena and her little fights with Caroline. Maybe she will pay her back and turn on her. I guess otherwise she would have her fun with some other random guy.
ReplyDeleteI agree! It would be more interesting. And it would make Liam less dull.
ReplyDeleteElena must have gone and bumped her damn head, lol.
ReplyDeleteWell Bonnie is back, so apparently Elena wants to go back to ignoring Caroline as much as possible. Such a shame because Elena's last conversation with Caroline in the ep before was pretty good.
ReplyDeleteWe learned so much about the other characters as well as Elena when Elena did not have her humanity I am guessing we will learn a lot .
ReplyDeleteHaha, I was actually looking forward to some Bonnie/Caroline scenes, but notttt when Caroline is like this. = /
ReplyDeleteLmfaoooo!
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking it might be Stefan and Elena.
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