The Musketeers has delighted audiences at home and around the world and we're thrilled that we've been able to financially support bringing a third series to the BBC, with improved value for the licence fee payer."
Renewed...despite the BBC's best efforts. ;) Fantastic news! Hopefully they'll take on board the absolute slating they've had over this year's shoddy treatment and put S3 back on SUNDAYS!!! Or at lesat think twice about yanking it every time a bunch of idiot men decide to kick a ball around. Very pleased for the cast and crew who really deserve another series for their hard work.
And I can't complain at another year of Mowgli in his leathers. :P
I'm new to the show, started last week and I'm on ep 4 now. I totally fell in love with it, it's absolutely great. To be honest I'm confused why BBC is treating it poorly. Glad it was renewed and hope to see more episodes. Happy to join the community here ;)
SO HAPPY! Was hoping for the best, but expecting the worst especially with it being on Friday nights now and with all the interruptions and recent view numbers...just so happy! :) :) Really curious and excited now to see what direction they will be heading in S3 (especially with my speculations for the rest of S2).
Maimie said something about a three year option on their contracts, which I presume means that if it does go to 3 years, they're signed up from the start to do them all. After that, they could leave or renegotiate, although I doubt we'll get a 4th series.
Also Luke hasn't had a haircut since they stopped filming, and Santi is growing his beard again, so I don't think we're in danger of losing the boys, at least!
BBC going full out tramp. "Financially support" oh GIVE IT A REST. The BBC is so cheap its disgusting. We all pay a TV fee which goes straight to them. They set up networks around the world like BBC America and show our own funded shows there and they have the nerve to shove BBC Three online, cancel In The Flesh and make flat out donkey crap all year round (apart from 3-4 expectations) . The Musketeers is flat out horse shit thats typical of BBC. CBBC is where all the good stuff is (Yes, all their good stuff is on the KIDS CHANNEL). Atlantis was god awful, DW is slipping. BBC and their co-productions because they can't afford it? Yeah you can f*** off
As far as contracts go, it appears that series 3 will be the final series that the cast HAVE to do, anything beyond that is optional. Someone reported at Xmas - during a carol service - that Tom had expressed a desire to make S3 his last but whether that's true or not, no one knows.
What does seem likely - based on Adrian Hodges saying that S3 will see D'artagnan begin his "heroic journey" during a Livejournal Q&A - is that Adrian initially only planned for three series.
With this statement coming from a BBC Worldwide spokesman, does that mean that they have upped their chunk of the production monies? I don't think it will have any effect on how the show is made, but the airing rights are my only concern.
Why the heck are the BBC being so darn quiet about the show in general, I just don't understand it at all :/
Oh I was at the carol service and I was chatting to Tom. I didn't hear him say that. He is an absolutely gorgeous man by the way and so friendly and kind. I am so glad that we have a series 3 Hooray!!!
Unfortunately, the only thing they will listen to is the viewing figures, not any complaints about scheduling being the problem for them. That's all they ever do :(
What kind of shows do you like? It's a costume drama, but I wouldn't say it's anything like, say, Downton Abbey, nor is it as camp as some of the more recent film versions. If you like leads that do their own stunts/fights, good humoured banter and some romance thrown in too then I'd say give it a go. Here's the promo for S1 to give you an idea of how it looks :)
It hadn't been looking good had it, so this is fabulous news! I've been out all day with family so couldn't get online to celebrate properly with anyone. My mum likes the show and was happy with the news, but that is hardly the same, lol! I am wondering where they will take it next season too, will we have a cliffhanger at the end of this year do you think?
Yep, it's not helped at all. Silent Witness did well in that slot last year, as did Jonathan Creek. The difference being, of course, that they are both well established shows and were promoted well.
I feel it might be one of those shows that actually does quite well internationally (I don't have any hard proof mind you, just an assumpiton). So if BBC Canada & BBC America had the numbers maybe they pushed for more...?
I pitched to two friends of mine who are married. The wife was an such easy sell, as she's super into fencing AND pretty boys! :P Like it's a no brainer!
It does phenomenally well overseas, it's sold to over 140 countries and is the second most popular drama the BBC have internationally after Doctor Who. This is why I've been saying that the third season was almost a certainty for the last six months or so, and why I am a little wary about this wording from a BBC WW rep now.
Hmm, it could be. They did say that they keep upsetting their historical advisor with the changes they make after all, and that would be a massive one, lol.
I was also wondering earlier how Anne's letter to her brother could be brought up again by Rochefort. I have a feeling that he suspects that something is up between Anne and Aramis, and if he does get conformation of that he could use it to blackmail her. Then Constance, or Aramis, will maybe try and get it back in order to stop him, perhaps even replacing it with something that incriminates Rochefort instead. So when he takes it to the King, he basically reveals his own crimes and/or feelings about Anne to him, lol.
I think what bypassed whoever made this decision is that The Musketeers has a different narrative style than those two shows and they don't belong in the same kind of time slot. You can take Silent Witness and Jonathan Creek off for a couple of weeks and nobody would really mind, because the stories are pretty much wrapped up each week and self-contained. Whereas the Musketeers has a building plot and intricacies that you need to continue with in progression, not stop one week and start again a fortnight later and expect the tension or enthusiasm to still be there.
hope it won't be easy for Rocheford to find out but i think he could, as he found out the marguerite's affair with Aramis (I was a little suprised about how he found out but it's Rocheford , he's like a snake - that for sure-) =) . And if he learns about the romance between Aramis and Anne he 'll be really really mad . As I've read it in an interview Rocheford will put the queen under threat so I think he could feel there is something up between them .
Fantastic news! I just found this show last fall and upped my Dish package this year to get BBCAmerica just to watch season 2!! Knowing we get a season 3 is terrific news!!
Well, working in the business, my evaluation and assumption came from the fact that the news came from BBC WW and the wording.
That statement makes it sounds like the internationals partners might be chipping in to make the production sustainable for BBC. Probably because (per your comment) their revenues are hitting the profit margins.
lol, I got my sister and brother-in-law into the show, but their reaction was more like "oh cool" while I was smiling the whole day :p Hmmm...good question. Cause we sort of didn't for season 1 did we? Season 1 pretty much wrapped up without any unanswered questions or major cliffhangers in my perspective.
With the last episode's overnights falling to 3.1 million, I was suddenly concerned about a third series, despite what director Andy Hay was tweeting..
It's a good show that's just not caught the publics imagination for some reason, perhaps because they think serious crime dramas and reality shows are the best thing since sliced bread..
To be fair, the series 1 final had overnights of 3.9 million, despite being on a Sunday night. I don't think S2 scheduling is the only reason for the show's low figures..
I think many people still think The Muskereers is a bit camp, especially with the S1 opener where Aramis is jumping out of windows to escape 'the husband' so to speak and Constance is dressing up as a prostitute within 10 minutes of meeting her. It was a 9pm opener that had the feel of an 8pm opener - which of course is what it was when it was produced - so that didn't help.
The person who reported that could have been lying, we don't know..
I think it's unlikely that ALL the Musketeers would want to do the show indefinately, at least one might be itching to move their careers forward by the end of S3..
Really appreciate it. I guess you're The Musketeers figure here in STV, your enthusiasm and the respectful community here was a plus reason for me to check this show out. So thanks again :)
Oh I don't want to accuse anyone of lying 😔 just that I didn't hear it . I agree entirely about needing to move on with their careers. I for one am desperate to see Tom back on the stage but will miss Muskies terribly and I am delighted about s3. 😀
I do think some of what Tom and Adrian have said has been twisted and misinterpreted by fans - where I've listened to the same interview they're quoting and thinking, 'Yeah, I didn't get that at all'.
I don't think the intent is outright lying, but fan fears/hopes seem to lead to hearing things they want to hear and extrapolating meaning from things that maybe weren't so explicit, or may not mean what they think they do.
A bit off topic, but since we're on a happy vibe with S3 renewal, can I just say how lovely it is to be on a forum where people aren't biting each other's heads off, as has been going on lately in other STV's pages. I've been on a number of different show forums but the Musketeers seems to have brought together some really friendly people, and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone, and that I'm looking forward to another series of speculation, drooling and nattering. :D x
I'm interested by your comment about "airing rights" Sandi, but not quite sure what you mean by it. Do you fear, perhaps, that BBC in the UK might "demote" the show to BBC2, or maybe even to BBC3, which I believe is moving to an online-only service?
I agree. There is nothing like this here. I have found all of you so extremely wonderful. I am glad I found this site where i'm among "friends" that have some great views about the Musketeers and the story, where the obsession is welcomed, encouraged along with the drooling, sighing, fantasizing, etc. is OK <3 :D
I would think that with the shorter seasons in the UK that having a show like this running 4-5 years would be better return on investment, ie, their sword training, etc. ? I think even the fans might contribute $$ to keep this show running but maybe it's just to expensive?
If BBC WW/America are fronting more money than BBC One are this time round (the reverse has been true so far) then they would have the airing rights to show it first on their channel - like BBC America - before it airs in the UK. Hence they would be saving Licence Fee payer money, but also taking the first viewing rights to another channel.
I don't like the sound of that! Of course, it's great that the Musketeers is an international success and it should be made as widely available as possible all over the world, but it is essentially a British production and should, IMHO, always be shown first in the UK. Are there any examples of the scenario you mention occurring with any other joint-funded BBC productions, or is The Musketeers a bit of a trailblazer anyway, with its BBC One / BBC Worldwide / BBC America model of funding?
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I haven't noticed such Series exists :O but I am happy for the fans :)
ReplyDeleteBest news this week :)
ReplyDeleteGreat!
ReplyDeleteGreat to hear! I bought Season 1 DVDs and was hooked. Now I watch every week.
ReplyDeleteTHIS JUST MADE MY DAY/WEEK/MONTH! THANK YOU BBC.
ReplyDeleteWonderful news. Is there any notation that all the cast members are coming back?
ReplyDeleteDon't watch it but happy for the fans!
ReplyDeleteYes!! That is all :-)
ReplyDeleteRenewed...despite the BBC's best efforts. ;) Fantastic news! Hopefully they'll take on board the absolute slating they've had over this year's shoddy treatment and put S3 back on SUNDAYS!!! Or at lesat think twice about yanking it every time a bunch of idiot men decide to kick a ball around. Very pleased for the cast and crew who really deserve another series for their hard work.
ReplyDeleteAnd I can't complain at another year of Mowgli in his leathers. :P
Best news of the day :) Have been waiting for the official announcement !
ReplyDeleteYay, awesome! This day got much better than I expected :)
ReplyDeleteThe Musketeers - really one of my favorites!
I'd think they'll try to keep any casting info absolutely buried until after the finale, what with rumours of character deaths.
ReplyDeleteI'm new to the show, started last week and I'm on ep 4 now. I totally fell in love with it, it's absolutely great. To be honest I'm confused why BBC is treating it poorly. Glad it was renewed and hope to see more episodes.
ReplyDeleteHappy to join the community here ;)
Excellent news.😄
ReplyDeleteSO HAPPY! Was hoping for the best, but expecting the worst especially with it being on Friday nights now and with all the interruptions and recent view numbers...just so happy! :) :) Really curious and excited now to see what direction they will be heading in S3 (especially with my speculations for the rest of S2).
ReplyDeleteAaaahhh *happy sigh* I am SO happy! Jaaay!
ReplyDeleteBest news ever! :) :)
ReplyDeleteYou could say this is THE best news ever . Lol :)
ReplyDeleteGood point. I will just have faith that our fav 4 men won't have any other acting conflicts and will return as strong, sexy, lovable as ever.! :D
ReplyDeleteMaimie said something about a three year option on their contracts, which I presume means that if it does go to 3 years, they're signed up from the start to do them all. After that, they could leave or renegotiate, although I doubt we'll get a 4th series.
ReplyDeleteAlso Luke hasn't had a haircut since they stopped filming, and Santi is growing his beard again, so I don't think we're in danger of losing the boys, at least!
I agree I hate interruptions to a series.
ReplyDeleteSuch fantastic news!!
ReplyDeleteShould I give this show a chance?
ReplyDeleteOh goody gumb drops!
ReplyDeleteBBC going full out tramp. "Financially support" oh GIVE IT A REST. The BBC is so cheap its disgusting. We all pay a TV fee which goes straight to them. They set up networks around the world like BBC America and show our own funded shows there and they have the nerve to shove BBC Three online, cancel In The Flesh and make flat out donkey crap all year round (apart from 3-4 expectations) . The Musketeers is flat out horse shit thats typical of BBC. CBBC is where all the good stuff is (Yes, all their good stuff is on the KIDS CHANNEL). Atlantis was god awful, DW is slipping. BBC and their co-productions because they can't afford it? Yeah you can f*** off
ReplyDeleteSO EXCITED FOR THIS NEWS! :)
ReplyDeleteYes! Please do! It's great! :)
ReplyDeleteJust hoping Adrian and Jessica will now place a call to Antonia Thomas, Annabelle Wallis and James Callis.
ReplyDeleteomggggggggg yessssssssss
ReplyDeleteAs far as contracts go, it appears that series 3 will be the final series that the cast HAVE to do, anything beyond that is optional. Someone reported at Xmas - during a carol service - that Tom had expressed a desire to make S3 his last but whether that's true or not, no one knows.
ReplyDeleteWhat does seem likely - based on Adrian Hodges saying that S3 will see D'artagnan begin his "heroic journey" during a Livejournal Q&A - is that Adrian initially only planned for three series.
Yes....I did.
ReplyDeleteI ordered season 1 just a few months ago and I'm hooked.
I'm relatively new to the show too and this community. I think you will enjoy both!!!
ReplyDeleteWith this statement coming from a BBC Worldwide spokesman, does that mean that they have upped their chunk of the production monies? I don't think it will have any effect on how the show is made, but the airing rights are my only concern.
ReplyDeleteWhy the heck are the BBC being so darn quiet about the show in general, I just don't understand it at all :/
It's very easy to get hooked when the leads are so dashing ;)
ReplyDeleteOh I was at the carol service and I was chatting to Tom. I didn't hear him say that. He is an absolutely gorgeous man by the way and so friendly and kind. I am so glad that we have a series 3 Hooray!!!
ReplyDeleteHey there maloose, glad to welcome you to the fandom! Always great to have more people to chat about the show with :)
ReplyDeleteYAY!!!
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the only thing they will listen to is the viewing figures, not any complaints about scheduling being the problem for them. That's all they ever do :(
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of shows do you like? It's a costume drama, but I wouldn't say it's anything like, say, Downton Abbey, nor is it as camp as some of the more recent film versions. If you like leads that do their own stunts/fights, good humoured banter and some romance thrown in too then I'd say give it a go. Here's the promo for S1 to give you an idea of how it looks :)
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDWE8Jy9EE
Thanks!
ReplyDeleteIt hadn't been looking good had it, so this is fabulous news! I've been out all day with family so couldn't get online to celebrate properly with anyone. My mum likes the show and was happy with the news, but that is hardly the same, lol! I am wondering where they will take it next season too, will we have a cliffhanger at the end of this year do you think?
ReplyDelete*happy dance*
ReplyDeleteGreat news! I'm very happy!
ReplyDeleteCouldn't agree more - shoddy treatment indeed!
ReplyDeleteAnd yet the irony is it's the scheduling that's caused the low viewing figures in the first place.
ReplyDeleteBest news ever :)
ReplyDeleteYep, it's not helped at all. Silent Witness did well in that slot last year, as did Jonathan Creek. The difference being, of course, that they are both well established shows and were promoted well.
ReplyDeleteIt is great seeing all the love for the show on this page :))
ReplyDeleteI feel it might be one of those shows that actually does quite well internationally (I don't have any hard proof mind you, just an assumpiton). So if BBC Canada & BBC America had the numbers maybe they pushed for more...?
ReplyDeleteI pitched to two friends of mine who are married. The wife was an such easy sell, as she's super into fencing AND pretty boys! :P
ReplyDeleteLike it's a no brainer!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So so so so so so so so happy!
ReplyDeleteI think we will and I am thinking it will have something to do with a war with Spain.
ReplyDeleteIt does phenomenally well overseas, it's sold to over 140 countries and is the second most popular drama the BBC have internationally after Doctor Who. This is why I've been saying that the third season was almost a certainty for the last six months or so, and why I am a little wary about this wording from a BBC WW rep now.
ReplyDeleteHmm, it could be. They did say that they keep upsetting their historical advisor with the changes they make after all, and that would be a massive one, lol.
ReplyDeleteI was also wondering earlier how Anne's letter to her brother could be brought up again by Rochefort. I have a feeling that he suspects that something is up between Anne and Aramis, and if he does get conformation of that he could use it to blackmail her. Then Constance, or Aramis, will maybe try and get it back in order to stop him, perhaps even replacing it with something that incriminates Rochefort instead. So when he takes it to the King, he basically reveals his own crimes and/or feelings about Anne to him, lol.
I think what bypassed whoever made this decision is that The Musketeers has a different narrative style than those two shows and they don't belong in the same kind of time slot. You can take Silent Witness and Jonathan Creek off for a couple of weeks and nobody would really mind, because the stories are pretty much wrapped up each week and self-contained. Whereas the Musketeers has a building plot and intricacies that you need to continue with in progression, not stop one week and start again a fortnight later and expect the tension or enthusiasm to still be there.
ReplyDeletehope it won't be easy for Rocheford to find out but i think he could, as he found out the marguerite's affair with Aramis
ReplyDelete(I was a little suprised about how he found out but it's Rocheford , he's like a snake - that for sure-) =) .
And if he learns about the romance between Aramis and Anne he 'll be really really mad .
As I've read it in an interview Rocheford will put the queen under threat so I think he could feel there is something up between them .
Fantastic news! I just found this show last fall and upped my Dish package this year to get BBCAmerica just to watch season 2!! Knowing we get a season 3 is terrific news!!
ReplyDeleteWell, working in the business, my evaluation and assumption came from the fact that the news came from BBC WW and the wording.
ReplyDeleteThat statement makes it sounds like the internationals partners might be chipping in to make the production sustainable for BBC. Probably because (per your comment) their revenues are hitting the profit margins.
lol, I got my sister and brother-in-law into the show, but their reaction was more like "oh cool" while I was smiling the whole day :p Hmmm...good question. Cause we sort of didn't for season 1 did we? Season 1 pretty much wrapped up without any unanswered questions or major cliffhangers in my perspective.
ReplyDeleteWith the last episode's overnights falling to 3.1 million, I was suddenly concerned about a third series, despite what director Andy Hay was tweeting..
ReplyDeleteIt's a good show that's just not caught the publics imagination for some reason, perhaps because they think serious crime dramas and reality shows are the best thing since sliced bread..
To be fair, the series 1 final had overnights of 3.9 million, despite being on a Sunday night. I don't think S2 scheduling is the only reason for the show's low figures..
ReplyDeleteI think many people still think The Muskereers is a bit camp, especially with the S1 opener where Aramis is jumping out of windows to escape 'the husband' so to speak and Constance is dressing up as a prostitute within 10 minutes of meeting her. It was a 9pm opener that had the feel of an 8pm opener - which of course is what it was when it was produced - so that didn't help.
The person who reported that could have been lying, we don't know..
ReplyDeleteI think it's unlikely that ALL the Musketeers would want to do the show indefinately, at least one might be itching to move their careers forward by the end of S3..
Really appreciate it. I guess you're The Musketeers figure here in STV, your enthusiasm and the respectful community here was a plus reason for me to check this show out. So thanks again :)
ReplyDeleteOh I don't want to accuse anyone of lying 😔 just that I didn't hear it . I agree entirely about needing to move on with their careers. I for one am desperate to see Tom back on the stage but will miss Muskies terribly and I am delighted about s3. 😀
ReplyDeleteI do think some of what Tom and Adrian have said has been twisted and misinterpreted by fans - where I've listened to the same interview they're quoting and thinking, 'Yeah, I didn't get that at all'.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the intent is outright lying, but fan fears/hopes seem to lead to hearing things they want to hear and extrapolating meaning from things that maybe weren't so explicit, or may not mean what they think they do.
I can just picture it: "So, there're these swords, yeah, and boys with brooding smiles and complicated leather outfits - care to give it a go?"
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome. I'm glad that you enjoyed the show and have joined us, it's lovely to hear that feedback :)
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with that :)
ReplyDeleteA bit off topic, but since we're on a happy vibe with S3 renewal, can I just say how lovely it is to be on a forum where people aren't biting each other's heads off, as has been going on lately in other STV's pages. I've been on a number of different show forums but the Musketeers seems to have brought together some really friendly people, and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone, and that I'm looking forward to another series of speculation, drooling and nattering. :D x
ReplyDeleteAgreed, it's great and very encouraging that the fans get on so well no matter what their views are :) Xx
ReplyDeleteThe beauty of any good pitch, is simplicity. It literally went: "So it's a show, with swords and pretty boys."
ReplyDeleteAnd my job was done... ;P
I'm interested by your comment about "airing rights" Sandi, but not quite sure what you mean by it. Do you fear, perhaps, that BBC in the UK might "demote" the show to BBC2, or maybe even to BBC3, which I believe is moving to an online-only service?
ReplyDeleteI agree. There is nothing like this here. I have found all of you so extremely wonderful. I am glad I found this site where i'm among "friends" that have some great views about the Musketeers and the story, where the obsession is welcomed, encouraged along with the drooling, sighing, fantasizing, etc. is OK <3 :D
ReplyDeleteI would think that with the shorter seasons in the UK that having a show like this running 4-5 years would be better return on investment, ie, their sword training, etc. ? I think even the fans might contribute $$ to keep this show running but maybe it's just to expensive?
ReplyDeleteThank you BBC!
ReplyDeleteIf BBC WW/America are fronting more money than BBC One are this time round (the reverse has been true so far) then they would have the airing rights to show it first on their channel - like BBC America - before it airs in the UK.
ReplyDeleteHence they would be saving Licence Fee payer money, but also taking the first viewing rights to another channel.
I don't like the sound of that! Of course, it's great that the Musketeers is an international success and it should be made as widely available as possible all over the world, but it is essentially a British production and should, IMHO, always be shown first in the UK. Are there any examples of the scenario you mention occurring with any other joint-funded BBC productions, or is The Musketeers a bit of a trailblazer anyway, with its BBC One / BBC Worldwide / BBC America model of funding?
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