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Ep 7/10
Friday 27 February
9.00pm-10.00pm
BBC ONE
February 28th, 2015
9:00PM
BBC America
The King’s cousin is ambushed whilst under Musketeer escort, as she travels from Mantua to Sweden to make a political marriage that will be advantageous to France.
The Musketeers must discover who is targeting her and fast, to keep both her and the alliance between countries protected. However, it emerges that other important figures at Court also appear to be in danger. Who is the killer and could he already be inside the Palace walls?
CAST: Luke Pasqualino is D’Artagnan, Tom Burke is Athos, Howard Charles is Porthos, Santiago Cabrera is Aramis, Hugo Speer is Captain Treville, Ryan Gage is King Louis, Alexandra Dowling is Queen Anne, Maimie McCoy is Milady, Tamla Kari is Constance and Marc Warren is Comte de Rochefort.
Guest starring Peridita Weeks as Princess Louise.
Friday 27 February
9.00pm-10.00pm
BBC ONE
February 28th, 2015
9:00PM
BBC America
The King’s cousin is ambushed whilst under Musketeer escort, as she travels from Mantua to Sweden to make a political marriage that will be advantageous to France.
The Musketeers must discover who is targeting her and fast, to keep both her and the alliance between countries protected. However, it emerges that other important figures at Court also appear to be in danger. Who is the killer and could he already be inside the Palace walls?
CAST: Luke Pasqualino is D’Artagnan, Tom Burke is Athos, Howard Charles is Porthos, Santiago Cabrera is Aramis, Hugo Speer is Captain Treville, Ryan Gage is King Louis, Alexandra Dowling is Queen Anne, Maimie McCoy is Milady, Tamla Kari is Constance and Marc Warren is Comte de Rochefort.
Guest starring Peridita Weeks as Princess Louise.
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Another kidnapping/ambush, another failed Musketeer escort, and another opportunity for Louis to shout 'I'm so disappointed'! Also surely little chance for any coupley stuff. Yet again. We're running out of time, folks....:/
ReplyDeleteIt is a relatively brief synopsis though in fairness. I have a feeling that other aspects of the episode are probably being withheld/concealed to avoid spoiling significant developments. If memory serves there was no tip off about Constance and D'Artagnan in the syopsis for A Rebellious Woman. A marriage of inconvenience also has a wider resonance.
ReplyDeleteI'm a bit confused.
ReplyDelete"Who is the killer and could he already be inside the Palace walls?"
At the beginning i thought of a kidnapper but in the end they talk about a killer inside the palace... we are talking about the same person, right? (Or no... ?)So if the boys find out about this mysterious person being at Court that would mean they have to come back very quickly... Porthos would be the only one thinking at the King since Aramis will be focused on the baby and the Queen, D'Artagnan on Constance and Athos on Milady (not in a total romantic way).
You could be right.;)
ReplyDeleteHmm, Sweden was very tangled up in the Thirty Years war, and Spain, at this point, though I'm not so sure of Manuta's involvement in it all. Might be worth a bit of research perhaps.
ReplyDeleteOr it's just not very well written. ;)
ReplyDeleteInteresting..
ReplyDeleteAs long as there's plenty of the Musketeers in this episode - actually doing what they're meant to be doing - and a few personal scenes between d'Artagnan/Constance (newly together?) Athos/Milady and Anne/Aramis/baby amongst all the goings-on, this might be an OK episode.
I wonder if the title could also refer to Constance & Bonacieux and King Louis / Anne?
I was wondering about the possible ambiguity of the title too. There are more than a few inconvenient marriages around!
ReplyDeleteI think it's definitely a play on that. In the same way that A Rebellious Woman applied to both Ninon and Constance. There are, as Knitty says, a number of inconvenient marriages in The Musketeers. I'd be willing at this point to bet that Constance and D'Artagnan are back together again at this point and she has finally decided to leave Bonacieux. She'll now be faced with what happens next and what her life might look like now.
ReplyDeleteI think it could be some sort of mix between episode 4 & 9 from season 1.
ReplyDeleteHope it won't be ...
I think we'll definitely see Constance and d'Artagnan back together by this episode. I think you're both right that the title is a play on all those 'marriages of convenience'.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Milady's relationship with Louis is one of convenience.
As for Bonacieux, I would like him to approach Rochefort and become the accomplice to the villain, rather than just a vain, cowardly person. It would certainly add danger and excitement to the mix if he was working with Rochefort! As long as it doesn't result in any harm coming to Constance :)
It's very brief, which makes me think you're right that they're concealing spoilery information that are not yet known. There's got to be other relationship developments going on in this episode too. There will be an interesting dilemma for the boys although, as they will all assumably be off protecting the King's cousin whilst the people they care about are back at court.
ReplyDeleteI actually thought the synopsis quite interesting, i've seen some bad commentaries on the season, but i'm really enjoying it. I think what they mean, is that while the musketeers escort the king's cousin they are attacked, but also someone at the palace gets killed, and they don't know who the killer is, so they are in the middle of a dilemma because they should protect the king's cousin, but they have to go back to the palace. And i'm anxious to see the obvious relationships, Anne/Aramis, Constance/D'art, Milady/athos/the king. Also, Rochefort should know about the Anne/Aramis/Baby thing by episode seven, and that is something i really want to see.
ReplyDeleteI'm just a bit surprised that immediately after a court heavy episode in which members for the household are in mortal danger, we have another court heavy episode in which member of the household are in mortal danger. Seriously, levels of job satisfaction in that place must be horrendous.:)
ReplyDeleteI don't think they could reasonably delay progress, particularly on Constagnan, for much longer. Episode eight is Porthos heavy and nine and ten are essentially a two part finale. At that stage it would be far to late to develop matters in a meaningful way.
ReplyDeleteIt's probably the most dangerous place in Paris right now. Forget battlefields and dark back alleys, avoid the Palace!
ReplyDeleteSo being a huge history nerd I checked out Wikipedia to learn about Mantua and there is some interesting stuff there.
ReplyDeleteAt this time Mantua had recently come under rule of a French branch of the ruling family, the Gonzagas. Spain (and Savoy, interestingly) was not happy that there was a pseudo-French ruler in Mantua, and sent an army to siege Mantua - known as the War of the Mantuan Succession. Louis was supposed to send French troops to support the besieged city, but never did. In 1631 there was a peace treaty signed that preserved French interests in this part of Italy. It seems like this is considered to be a minor aspect of the Thirty Years War, but historically there was some interesting events happening at this time that they could use in the show.
Also with Mantua being in Italy (though obviously not Italy back then), would it be unreasonable if I wish that Luke Pasqualino gets to bust out some Italian? Because I would enjoy that. And if Aramis can speak Spanish with zero explanation, why not d'Artagnan and Italian? Might as well take advantage of your actors.
It's partly because of all this court stuff that the Musketeers themselves are getting less screen-time this year but at least things are moving forward by this point, including - hopefully - more interaction between Rochefort and the four boys.
ReplyDeleteWe haven't seen enough of Bonacieux for him to be anything really, not even a vain, cowardly person.
ReplyDeleteVery true Tigercheetah
ReplyDeleteTrue but if he did help "the snake" then he might get in the way and be accidentally killed???
ReplyDeleteThat's true - then the problem would be removed ;)
ReplyDeleteLOL! And well, no surprise there judging by horrendously guarded that place is. Everytime Aramis asks how well the dauphin is guarded I keep thinking "Well, considering you can come and go freely without anyone ever actually questioning you being in the Queen's private apartments, I'd say that kid is f---ed."
ReplyDeleteThe BBC has released a bit of further info. This is the Perdita Weeks episode. She'll be playing Princess Louise. I assume this is the bride to be. However there could be a trust in this tale as in a pre-series spoilery article Perdita was described as playing "a sexy assassin". The author of the article could have gotten the wrong end of the stick but it might be interesting if Princess Louise has a hidden agenda. Maybe she already has a lover and REALLY doesn't want to get married. Certainly one or two members of the court and indeed the Musketeers, could relate.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually wondering what implications there might be for Constance in terms of her role at the palace, should she leave her husband. Even though he's cheating on his wife and indeed his wife cheated on him, at least the appearance of propriety would have been expect of those members of the household surrounding the King and Queen. Tamla has said that Constance decides that she doesn't care what society thinks of her (go girl!😄) but it could place her in an interesting situation. I think Queenie will do everything she can to keep her but I think Constance will have to discuss the situation with Anne.
ReplyDeleteAh, that's interesting - the "sexy assassin". You could be right about her already having a lover , and that would tie in with the episode title, as it would be an 'inconvenient marriage'. I wonder who the targets at Court will be!
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of the Weeks girls, so I'm not massively enthused by Perdita's role in The Musketeers. The plot sounds interesting though, so fingers crossed I'll enjoy it!
ReplyDeleteLouis may still be too distracted by Milady to notice, and even if he does, it's possibly Milady may actually be able to help. Whatever her motivations this year, she's claiming to have changed, and since we know she's going to help the Musketeers at some point, putting in a good word for Constance with the King could not only get her brownie points with the boys, but add a very interesting twist to the female interactions at the palace. Constance would know her position at Court is thanks to Milady - might that be a favour Milady could call in, either with Constance or D'Artagnan and/or Athos? It throws up a lot of possibilities, and further muddle our minds in trying to work out what the heck she's up to!
ReplyDeleteI know what you mean . They can be a bit "jolly hockey sticks". Hopefully the story will be strong.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly it!
ReplyDeleteSome interesting photos!
ReplyDeleteOooh, wasn't expecting these pics quite so early...
ReplyDeleteIt looks like our suspicions about the title relating to Constagnan almost as much as the main storyline were right. It was really about time Constance's marriage - the biggest reason for them being kept apart - had more significance in the series.
I'm also hoping d'Artagnan in general has a decent amount to do in this episode - as a Musketeer - what with episode 8 being Porthos based, before we then get to the series finals.
Also, is Athos sharing another scene with Rochefort? I'm expecting more 'connections' between Rochefort and the Musketeers themselves from this episode onwards because events leading to the final might start kicking off here.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like Louise has her hand on D'artagnan's arm as they're coming up the stairs, so I wonder if the two of them have a little connection during the episode.
ReplyDeleteThe last thing we need at this point in the series is another non-Constance "little connection". Lol. I think she may try to play up to him a bit but I think romantically D'Artagnan will be otherwise occupied at this point.:) I think he will have some sympathy with her regarding being essentially married off to the most politically convenient bidder and might therefore initially be blinded to her true nature. I think there's much more to Princess Louise than meets the eye.
ReplyDeleteOh, I didn't mean any kind of romantic connection :) just a 'storyline connection'.
ReplyDeleteAramis kissing the rosary!! He's really falling in love with Anne.
ReplyDeletePoor Marguerite and Constance though. I fear Marguerite will die this season.
I really hope they'll get rid of Rochefort this season. I've had enough of abusive assholes overstaying their welcome, because the actors are "so good". I can enjoy a good villain, if I know he's not going to stick around and get a redemption.
Rochefort is such a nasty character that I can't see a redemption happening in any way and I'm fairly sure he'll be gone by the end of S2...
ReplyDeleteIf I had this guarantee for every show I watch, I would be a much happier fan. But I really hope they have a new villain every season. That's the best thing a series can do. Otherwise it gets boring.
ReplyDeleteWell no wonder Constance hasn't left that daft husband of hers yet. He's got a hat. Poor D'Artagnan, if only he'd kept the one he borrowed from the prison last year, everything would be so different. :(
ReplyDeleteBonacieux is a little too finely dressed for my liking, so he's probably wedged firmly in Rochefort's back pocket by now. Not good. :( I'm suddenly really anxious for Constagnan after seeing these pics. Of course they could mean anything, but the dopey draper being included isn't an encouraging sign.
And has Treville been stabbed? My poor Captain's not having a good year. :(
It does look a bit like Constance is defending her self in the pic with Bonacieux. He's definitely getting in her face. I wonder if this scene is before or after her stairs pic with D'Artagnan? They seem to be in the same sequence.
ReplyDeleteThey really can't afford to have Constance yo-yo AGAIN between her two men. After what's potentially promised in ep 6, her prevaricating once more will lose her a lot of fan support, I think. She's already done the 'I'll lose everything if I leave my marriage' speech, and I think that concern will have been allayed in the meantime, so if she's decided once and for all to go, there can't be any more legitimate reason for her to keep D'Artagnan on the hook. It'll just p*** people off even more.
This is precisely my fear. She's got to make a firm decision at some point as the indecision is killing her character. It's also grossly unfair for her to be portrayed as continuing to draw D'Artagnan in, only to try to walk it back. Also frankly if Bonacieux is back to emotional blackmail and physical threats, then we've made absolutely zero progress from last year. I have a feeling thought that Bonacieux's behaviour here will be the final straw for Constance and his actions will finally motivate her to leave him.
ReplyDeleteOnce again it appears bonacieux is trying to hold onto his wife the only way he knows how; blackmail and threats. Lets hope constance takes no heed this time although by the looks of it she seems very conflicted and anxious (not that thats surprising given the circumstances!) I really do hope that the scene the promo photos are showing however, will be a conversation between constagnan on how they can get her out of the marriage rather than sneak around it or in fact let it overrule their hearts And give up altogether!
ReplyDeleteConstagnan might be lovers again by episode 7 but I wouldn't expect her to just walk out on her marriage by episode 7, that's even harder...
ReplyDeleteAs long as she and d'Artagnan are back in each others arms by this point, it'll do for now..
I think this is where we may see Constance's courage Emma. Tamla has spoken of it and of her disregard for what society expects her to do. Bonacieux may overplay his hand here. If he threatens her and D'Artagnan this time, which I've no doubt he will, I sincerely hope her response will be very different from last year and she'll make the right decision for her and for the man she loves. This could be the moment though that Bonacieux turns to Rochefort and at that point things could get very dark indeed.
ReplyDeleteYes and I think thats what will make it bittersweet because on one hand we'll see a more courageous side to constance and both she and d'artagnan will be happy but then if bonacieux has anything to do with it we cant be sure how long that will last,particularly if rochefort gets involved...
ReplyDeleteI'm not expecting it to be all done and dusted by then, but at this late stage she can't fall back on the same argument as before, not after (apparently) getting close to D'Artagnan once more. It just isn't fair on him. It'll be like Groundhog Day. Either she wants to be with him and is working on a way they can be together, or she doesn't. It would just be going backwards to pull him close and push him away AGAIN after some initial progress. At this point there has to be forward movement of some sort, whether it be 'I'm telling him next week' or 'help me, I don't know how to leave him'. Something other than 'he'll kill himself/what will people say/I'll lose everything etc. We need momentum, not stagnation.
ReplyDeletePrecisely. She's got to jump, even if she can't see where she's landing. It's way past time.
ReplyDeleteYes, I've been convinced from the start that they'll finally get together and have a brief moment of happiness before it all crashes down. Call me a pessimist, but but I can't shake the feeling.
ReplyDeleteBut giving d'Artagnan a hat would mean seeing less of that lovely, rough looking hair :)
ReplyDeleteIt looks like Rochefort is upsetting a whole host of people in episode 7 - Athos, Milady, Marguerite. Will it tie in to events in the series final?
They can't end S2 in exactly the same way they ended S1 - with Constance choosing to stay with Bonacieux and saying goodbye to d'Artagnan, that would be daft..
ReplyDeleteI think either Bonacieux will be gone by the end of S2 or be out of Constance's life as a husband at the very least..
They could go down the route of killing Constance but somehow, I don't see that happening.
I agree with that.. :)
ReplyDeleteConstance may make her decision in episode 6 but it doesn't mean she's going to find it easy to walk away from her marriage.
Here's hoping Bonacieux makes it easy as pie for her very soon.
ReplyDeleteI agree that they shouldn't really go with the same series outcome. I also think a finale that puts Constance in jeopardy also smacks of repetition. Killing off Constance gets them some nominal shock value but very little else. Even then, I'm not sure it would really be a huge shock, just horribly sad and likely to drive away some of the series most ardent fans (something they can't really afford at this point). I really don't like what that outcome is likely to do to D'Artagnan. I don't really want an Athos mini me in series three. It means that her character would also have served little overall purpose but to suffer and die. She would, at that point, have had very little real adventure and her key function as a link between the Musketeers and the Queen, would have disappeared. There's a lot of mileage in Constance yet. They may still opt for the tragic ending of the book but they've still got time for that and there are journeys and adventures which she would be a key catalyst for. You only have to see the excitement for episode six to realise that swash and buckle without romance or emotional engagement, is likely to have very limited appeal.
ReplyDelete...is the BBC trying to make up for something, throwing new pictures and episode summaries at us on a daily basis lately?
ReplyDeleteI think he looks really sad in that picture; might be something has happened. :/ Does anyone remember which episode it was when Jessica tweeted they were filming something really sad?
ReplyDeleteI did wonder about this. As Tigercheetah mentioned below, these pictures were unexpectedly early but hey, given the way they've treated us up to now, I'll take it.:)
ReplyDeleteI wish they'd invest in some decent marketing instead, but I think they've made their opinion of the show quite clear when BBC Worldwide had to announce the renewal...
ReplyDeleteI think it was during the final block of filming. You just know this isn't going to end well for Aramis. He's made a HUGE mistake in sleeping with the Queen. The resulting off-spring has added to the situation. He's then compounded things by getting involved with Marguerite in a manner that's both manipulative and cruel and completely unworthy of him. There'll be a terrible price to be paid for all this and you can see the nightmare coming like a freight train.
ReplyDeleteI'm seem to remember it was before they started the finale eps. So I've always had it in my mind that it's around ep 8. Could be wrong though, with them filming in blocks and not linear episodes it could be a scene squeezed in from anywhere.
ReplyDeleteIt'll be interesting I think, to see how D'Artagnan responds to this. Whether he shows some maturity and tries to help her come to terms with leaving Bonacieux, or whether he defaults to immaturity and starts putting pressure on her. We know this isn't easy for her and that there is no question of where her heart lies but she could find herself being torn apart by two men who are each threatening her in their own ways.
ReplyDeleteYou could well be right Knitty. I think it wasn't long before Jessica announced that Charlotte Salt had finished her filming commitments. Although I wouldn't necessarily connect the two. Particularly given Jessica's talent for misdirection.
ReplyDeleteI got the impression the 'sad scene' was from episode 8 or 9...
ReplyDeleteWell, no matter what exactly IS going to happen, I'm a little afraid that might mean we can kiss season 1 Aramis goodbye completely in season 3 :(
ReplyDeleteI would like to think d'Artagnan has grown by this stage in the series, especially as he had a reminder in episode 2 about what could happen to Constance should he be killed.
ReplyDeleteAh, alright, so this ep would probably be a bit early for it. She could have been refering to the Porthos episode then maybe, which I assume will have a lot of possibilities for major heartbreak...
ReplyDeleteI would like to think so too but sometimes when you want something very badly and you love someone very much, you can end up loving them in the wrong ways. You can also lose perspective. He's so passionate about her and frustrated about the situation that I wouldn't be surprised if he struggles not to overwhelm her, be demanding, or to vent that frustration.
ReplyDeleteI have the same fear about Marguerite. Aramis said that every woman, who truly loves died, but perhaps a more accurate could be that every woman who truly loved him died. I can imagine that she will die in effort to protect him, because she loves him. But on the other side, there is also posibility, that she will betray them and said everything to Rochefort and he will kill her, because she will know to much information and it could thwart his plans.
ReplyDeleteWhen you think Aramis and Rochefort fight because i read in interviu its gonna happen
ReplyDeleteA fight between Rochefort and the musketeers is too important for happening before the finale, so i think episode nine or ten. But they said that between Rochefort and Aramis will start some sort of rivality due to the Queen, and i think this is gonna happen sooner... well, i hope so, because i want to see this badly!
ReplyDeleteI always tought she was talking about Rochefort's death. Not because the character will be missed, but because they have to say goodbye to Marc Warren.
ReplyDeleteme too. Maybe Aramis notice Rochefort interest to queen.
ReplyDeleteSurely such a big death would be in the finale though, since he is the 'big bad' this year? I can't see them killing him off that early, and her comment was definitely not 9/10. 8/9 perhaps, but no later.
ReplyDeleteTake each scenario 1 at a time for series 3.
ReplyDeleteThe story of Porthos will be concluded - he finds out this series. He could then go on to marry the rich woman as par the book in series 3 and the episodes could cover the wars around the time period.
D'art and Constance - the storyline at present, continued from last series, will be stale if they don't bring some closure on it this series. She is a possible casualty, however i echo the sentiments mentioned above.
Aramis and the Queen - bit like D'art and Constance - the writers cannot have Aramis acting like a stalker for series 3 - enough angst of the baby, move on!
Athos and Milady - very intrigued by the set of photos of her, Rochefort and Athos on the staircase - maybe he finally defends her? As for next series - poor Athos (T Burke) has done enough brooding for a lifetime - let him be at peace (whatever that may be) and allow the Milady relationship to end (possibly with her death), but she is too good for the show so i think she will be around next series
Oh shi...p.
ReplyDeleteI'm worried now.
Definitely, i wonder when and how... can't believe we already talking about the finale.
ReplyDeleteLMAO I could of course be talking absolute rot, so don't take my word for anything!
ReplyDeleteStill worried. xD
ReplyDeleteMaybe there will be so many sad things that we will never know what she was referring to. And that's scary.
I think you're right that many of these storylines need some sort of closure. The range of options for some of that closure are fairly limited. Adrian has spoken of wanting to go in a new direction in series three. I must say this does concern me slightly as frankly we've had quite a few changes already and the series has paid for it in terms of audience. Series three is very likely to be the last though and he probably feels he has nothing to lose in terms of pursuing his overall vision. We know that the outcome of this series will apparently "change all of their lives for ever". I think if the Aramis/Anne storyline ends in the kind of carnage we anticipate, with the assault/attempted assault of Anne, likely death of Rochefort and possible demise of Marguerite, not to mention possible consequences for Constance and others, the fallout will be enormous. It's hard to see how Aramis will move on. If Marguerite dies he's likely to be riven with guilt. Similarly both the King and Queen will question their judgement over Rochefort. We could see Anne withdrawing from the world for a time. Porthos will also be faced with determining where he stands and indeed all of the Musketeers will be questioning the lies and concealment and the damage it will have done.
ReplyDeleteIt could just be my computer screen but it looks as though Constance has a cut on her lip in that image with Bonacieux. Oh man, if he's laid a hand on Constance, D'Artagnan will make suer she's be a widow before long....
ReplyDeleteWhen Adrian says that he wants to go in a new direction for S3, it's fairly clear that most storylines in S2 will be tied up, which probably means most of the Musketeers won't be ending the series on a very low note except for perhaps Aramis, depending on what happens to his son, same with Louis and Anne when it comes to the baby.
ReplyDeleteWhat happens to the baby is the biggest question mark of all in S2..
Both Adrian and Jessica have said or implied that d'Artagnan will become a bit more central in S3 - whereas S2 has had Aramis & his son and to a lesser extent Porthos being given the main long-running storylines - and with the implication of Cardinal Mazarin joining the show in S3 and possible war with Spain, we have a fair idea of what the central storyline might be for S3..
You could be right. I just zoomed in and it would make sense as her posture is defensive. She's also still wearing her wedding ring, so that could definitely be what makes her decision for her. If this is right, it's after her meeting D'Artagnan on the stairs (no cut lip...) and maybe Bonacieux sees them talking and flips?
ReplyDeleteBut how would the Marguerite situation - and by extension the Dauphin/Aramis and the Queen - change the rest of the guys' lives? Sure they'll be affected as it would have a knock on effect with the relationship with Aramis, not to mention possible ramifications at Court, but anything that changes 'all their lives forever' has got to be something that would have to be bigger than that.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think I can see it too..
ReplyDeleteIt feels like a game is coming in - just WHO is going to kill Rochefort? It is..
A) Aramis - because Rochefort is threatening Anne and the baby
B) Athos - because Rochefort is threatening ( or has actually killed ) Milady
C) d'Artagnan - because Rochefort and Bonacieux are threatening Constance ( and d'Artagnan does it traditionally )
D) a surprise person, such as Milady or Louis?
Lol..
Louis finding out that his son and heir actually isn't his? Not only would that affect all of those involved on a personal level but without an heir, would France be in a more tricky situation with Spain? Louis and the Cardinal seemed concerned about it in S1.
ReplyDeleteLol. I love this. Place your bets now! It could end up being like Murder on the Orient Express and everyone will have played a part in bumping him off! Constance's posture also suggests she's just been struck. She seems to be recoiling from him and her hands look like they may have gone up towards her mouth which they would do naturally, if she thought her lip was bleeding. My guess is that he has just spotted the lovers in an intimate exchange. I can't see Constance initiating a conversation with him about the future of their marriage a stairwell. Another possibility is that someone (Rochefort maybe) has tipped him off that his wife is involved with D'Artagnan and he comes to confront her. That moment has got to be a game changer for her. There's literally nothing to stay for at that point. It's also possible that Anne may notice the injury. If D'Artagnan does, I don't know how she'll stop him from ripping Bonacieux apart.
ReplyDeleteI've just had another look. The picture two snaps later with her and D'Art on the stairs...does it look to you like he's holding a glove in his left hand? And he could be touching her face with his right, maybe the cut lip? It's hard to see in the third picture, the one of just Constance face-on but it's just possible there's a shadow of a cut, which would put these two after, rather than before Bonacieux.
ReplyDeleteIn addition to Tigercheetah's comments, if it was discovered that Aramis fathered the Dauphin, not only would Anne be in very grave danger, he would be facing certain execution. It's also possible that the King would assume his fellow Musketeers knew and they too could be facing death as traitors. The regiment could face disbandment too.
ReplyDeleteOh yes, I know the consequences COULD result in all the above, I'm just questioning whether the 'change their lives forever' thing refers to what actually happens at the end, or what it it is they're trying to STOP. Life changing could be, as you say, the ramifications of Aramis and the Queen, Louis threatening the Musketeers, etc, but it could also mean what is planned would be life-changing should it not be averted. I just find the phrase a bit ambiguous.
ReplyDeleteIt does look like he's holding a glove in his left hand. He could very well be touching her face or holding her hand. He's certainly looking at her with real intensity and a slight air of curiosity. I have a feeling that it's this intimacy that's spotted by Bonacieux.
ReplyDeleteHhmm....I'm leaning towards this being after. His expressions strikes me as more concerned which would fit well if he's spotted she's got a fat lip. Oh well, either way, as long as that darn draper gets a well-aimed Muskie sword through his heart PDQ, I don't care which order the pictures are in. :)
ReplyDeleteIt does look like she's got a cut on her lip - hope d'Artagnan sorts him out! ;)
ReplyDeleteIt could definitely be what makes her decide to leave Bonacieux. I'm liking the sound of the d'Artagnan kebab special!!! :)
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering whether this might link to the scene on horseback. Bonacieux might demand that she leave the Palace at once and return home. D'Artagnan might then go to chez Bonacieux to retrieve her. Possibly presenting the draper with a simple choice, "Hand me your wife, or end up as fillet de Bonacieux, a D'Artagnan speciality."
ReplyDeleteyes. is already episode 5, time go very fast. i hope finale gonna be good and then season 3
ReplyDeleteor he live and become more crazy
ReplyDeleteWhat if its the Queen herself in self defense during the possible attack that had been speculated? I don't necessarily like this possibility for many reasons but mainly because I feel it should be a musketeer still an intriguing thought and something we wouldn't see coming.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this scoobie I don't like it but I agree! As I mentioned in another post (thanks for reading it btw) I want to see the relationship between Aramis and the Queen continue and I have specific reasons why and a lot of it has to do with character development. I like the Anne we see with Aramis and I don't think she can be herself/grow like that with Louis/without experiencing real live and passion. I think Aramis love for Anne and the baby (if he lets himself truly feel and invest in it) could affect and change him in interesting ways. He may be a romantic a famous libertine that cherishes women but he is not engaged so to speak, he holds back and is selfish. If his love for Anne and the baby is a true unselfish love he may find some of that truth he spoke about to Ninon. However there are always consequences to our actions and I think the Queen and Aramis are getting ready to face those. The Queen is getting ready to realize that the man she thought of as an old friend and someone she can count on is really very evil and wants to do her harm. As you said both she and Louis trusted Rochefort. And the man she loves/is falling in love with and who fathered her child....a man she thought honorable and could trust has been sleeping with their sons governess. No matter the reasons this will be a hard blow and this is a woman who already feels isolated and alone. Aramis most likely slept with the Queen on impulse, out of mutual attraction and a bond and because he is Aramis. Now I think he is developing real feelings for the woman, they have a son together and he finds himself feeling things for the child he never imagined and he had even complicated things further by sleeping with Margierite. I see both Aramis and the Queen going down a dark path. Treville is already walking his own dark path which will be made worse by the things Porthos discovers. I think Porthos will become more lost then found with these revelations. And Athos and Milady are headed for some kind of major reckoning which I fear could end in her death...not by Athos but someone else. The only one that seems to have a possible light at the end of the tunnel is D'Art.
ReplyDeleteAnne might be able to defend herself for a while but I can't see her killing Rochefort, as you say, the main villian has to be killed by the main heroes and Rochefort is a particulaly nasty piece of work.
ReplyDeleteBut would Bonacieux go to Rochefort for help, in exchange for information etc? I can't see it being that easy for d'Artagnan to just take Constance away from him..
ReplyDeleteHe might be able to take her away initially but I definitely think Bonacieux will go to Rochefort. I'm not sure what information Bonacieux could offer him that would be of any use. Constance isn't living with her husband anymore and certainly isn't sharing info with him. Where he could be useful to Rochefort is in removing Constance as a support for the Queen. Clearly Rochefort's intention, like all abusers, is to systematically isolate Anne so that she becomes utterly dependent on him. By taking Constance out of the equation as a "disgraced" woman, he makes further progress towards his ultimate goal. Of course he doesn't yet know that Anne is actually likely to have sympathies with Constance. Ironically in approaching Rochefort Bonacieux could well have made a fatal mistake. After all, what better way to destroy a Musketeers than to frame him for murder. Once Bonacieux has served his purpose, or if Richefort no longer sees a purpose for him, he'd be dead man.
ReplyDeleteAll very true.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the producers are going to follow book canon in ANY way by having d'Artagnan, Constance and Bonacieux tied together and tied to Rochefort as we head towards the final? We've already got Milady working with Rochefort - even if she doesn't yet have control of him - and I wonder if that letter that Constance witnessed being signed by Anne will come up again. One of these screencaps showing Rochefort intimidating some guy could be connected to that letter.
And what better way to remove Aramis than to have the King believe that Anne is getting too close to the Musketeer and may even have fathered the baby.
The King's death is seriously the one thing that could change everything for everyone. Anne as a regent, Mazarin try to gain... money or power (?), i hope he won't be the Queen lover, like he is in the book, that would be repetitive after a season of Rochefort obsession for Anne.
ReplyDeleteAnd on a personal level, everyone knowing about the baby would be an important change. But, in the end, i don't think they will start the third serie (probably the last) without Ryan Gage. They can kill of the King at the end of series 3.
There's always the possibilities that the King will never discover Rochefort's true intention and in S3 there will be some sort of questions/investigations about is death... and Anne, Constance and the boys will have to cover up.
There are too much possibilities, and all of them have important consequences.
That would be the most dangerous thing to happen... but as you said, Aramis and Anne would be pretty much dead, and there's no coming back for this.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that i can imagine is the King dying before sentencing Aramis death and whatever is in store for Anne. (Speaking seriously, what could happen to Anne? Death or exile? I'm a bit ignorant on this matter.)
I think linking them up would be interesting. The final task for Rochefort would be to turn the King firmly against Anne and the letters are definitely his best way of doing that. If he can somehow leak them to Louis, with the implication that Anne has been scheming to insert her son as King and herself, aided by her brother, as Regent, the King's relationship with his wife will be devastated. He could then portray himself as her saviour and champion, when he's actually the architect of her destruction. I'm also wondering if the man Rochefort is intimidating could be Marguerite's father? If you look at the pick of Marguerite, the backdrops look similar and he did mention her Dad in the last episode.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking about that too. if not killing him, at least hurt him enough to have blood on her hands, and then the musketeers arrive and one of them take charge of the matter.
ReplyDeleteI can see Anne's strong reaction if Rochefort put the baby in danger.
That's a scenario i'd like to see!
ReplyDeleteI think Marguerite is in his house because Rochefort wear just black shirts
ReplyDeleteAramis rosary quite visible this season , last season he was more hidden.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if the crucifix the Queen gave him could end up being very significant. In the novel, the Queen's affair is in danger of being exposed when her diamond earrings go missing and are in the possession of her lover the Duke of Buckingham. The King is then persuaded to ask her to wear the jewels at an event and of course, they have to be retrieved to save her honour and her neck. Could this crucifix have been gifted to the Queen by the King, or perhaps by her brother? Could it be something Rochefort remembers from her days in Spain? If so, it may be the trigger to him putting two and two together.
ReplyDeleteThis would also fit with the Bonacieux of the novel, who along with Rochefort, physically assaults Constance before imprisoning her. This shift from a manipulative and emotionally abusive husband, to a physically abusive one, must surely be pivotal to Constance's decision to leave him once and for all. Even now however, the point of leaving an abusive relationship, is often the most dangerous. She'll need her Musketeer more than ever if she's going to make it out in one piece.
ReplyDeletei agree with you
ReplyDeleteAahh, the new pictures. Now there's a lovely little Valentine's treat....:)
ReplyDeleteHHmm?
ReplyDeleteThe new additional promo photos. This one my friend, this one!!
ReplyDeleteOH!!!!! I didn't seem this! I don't refresh my page much coz it takes forever to load.
ReplyDeleteWow. That's a Valentine's picture to head off to bed with! :D
Looking at the new promo pics, I wonder if that's the Queen's stolen necklace Rochefort is holding? It'd explain why Milady's under arrest.
ReplyDeleteHappy Valentine's dreams....:)
ReplyDeleteYou too!
ReplyDelete:D
Lovely new photo of Constagnan :) probably a continuation of the other two pics on the staircase.
ReplyDeleteI do wonder whether Rochefort and Bonacieux between them have Constance removed from the palace when she gets too close to d'Artagnan for Bonacieux's liking? Rochefort will quite likely want the Queen isolated at some point and Bonacieux will take any opportunity to have his wife firmly back a home. He may even be threatening her with this during the image where Constance appears to be recoiling from him..
I don't think Anne will let them take her without a fight. Anne may be under Rochefort's influence, but I think she'll fight for Constance, and Rochefort would have to have a damn good reason to persuade her, unless he goes to Louis, and even then Anne has it in her to stand up to him and say no. After all, he's been embarrassing her for months, parading Milady about the palace so that all of Paris knows the Queen's been replaced in his bed. She may argue fine, you keep you mistress and I won't make a fuss, but I keep Constance.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think by this point there's a good chance Constance would refuse to go home with Bonacieux anyway. I've no idea where she'd go, but the 'you're my wife, do what you're told' line isn't going to work for much longer. Her fight HAS to come back soon. Tamla said Constance finds her courage and goes against everyone to be with D'Artagnan, so if it doesn't happen here, when will it happen? And of course there's no way D'Artagnan will let that state of affairs continue. If all of this kicks off when he's busy somewhere else, you can bet he'll do something about it as soon as he can.
Omigoodness how unbelievably adorable!!
ReplyDeleteSurely, somebody is going to pick up on that crucifix soon! xxxx is right, it has been visible this series. Possibly, someone will notice that he is wearing her crucifix and may put two and two together. This may well be Rochefort. It would be a nice way to pay tribute to the original story but with the crucifix instead of diamond earrings.
ReplyDeleteInteresting the preview with Milady and Athos scene.... I bet she will not fallowing him evan if I want her to go with him!!!!! But seriously can't wait to see the showdown between her and Catherine! ;)
ReplyDeleteMuch as I try to pay attention to Louis' 'why does everyone hate me' whinge in the last scene, I'm now rather disturbingly distracted every time by Rochefort's flexing pecs.
ReplyDeleteI need to stop rewatching this ep. :)
why Rochefort wants aramis rosary it not secret that anne gave aramis that rosary.
ReplyDeleteMaybe there's a significance to that particular item, and it's made him suspicious that she'd give it to a Musketeer?
ReplyDeletewhat he gonna do give rosary to king or keep for herself . plus dont think aramis just give to Marguerite.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I'm not sure what you mean about giving it to Marguerite...?
ReplyDeleteSorry i am little bit tired. I dont think that aramis just give rosary to Marguerite. unless she steal rosary, while aramis sleeping.
ReplyDeleteNah it's just good old greed. He wants everything that was once the queen's, and Aramis is in his way....
ReplyDelete. After milady is gone from the palace maybe we see more of King Louis / Anne or king find new lover.
ReplyDeleteOh right, I get you. No, you're right, he'd never just give it to her. I imagine Rochefort is asking her to steal it. Goodness knows how she'd get it, though, as she's not the most subtle person in the world.
ReplyDeleteshe seduce aramis
ReplyDeleteMaybe, but I don't think her skills are up to it, quite honestly! Aramis is so indifferent to her she'd have to use talents of Milady's skill-level to achieve it, and that would take some doing. Maybe she'll drug him?
ReplyDeleteDo you think that Porthos is now feeling guilty for his treatment of Treville? That would explain why he seemed so adamant that it would be him to exact some revenge on whomever dared to injure his captain.
ReplyDeletemaybe its was his gift to the queen.
ReplyDeleteThat would be so highly awkward!
ReplyDeleteThat's an interesting point - how will Marguerite steal the rosary? I wonder if he ever takes it off! Possibly, Knitty42 is right and she will drug him or get him drunk. I'm also intrigued as to whether he will try to carry on his affair with Marguerite after episode 6. He would be completely stupid to try and do this, especially now she is a women scorned. You would think that he would end his affair with Marguerite knowing that the queen may now know about them.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure it's out of guilt but more that he still respects Treville as the Captain, despite him not telling him about his father. I think he has looked up to Treville as a father figure for him, so I think he's been angry at Treville for not telling him, but he still looks up to him. I wonder if Treville will tell Porthos the secret, as he recovers from his injuries. That would then nicely go forward into episode 8.
ReplyDeleteIf Marguerite had any self-respect, after the goings on at the fort SHE would end it. It would be very weird if, despite being totally disregarded by Aramis, and knowing there' something between him and the Queen, she still tried to carry on whatever 'affair' she and Aramis had going. And likewise, for Aramis to sleeping with her after what happened just wouldn't make sense. He has absolutely no feelings for her, has shown it quite plainly, and he probably doesn't even need her to get close to the Dauphin now he and Anne are making eyes at each other again. I imagine they'd find a way he could be close to his son. But he'd either have to be the most callous man in Paris to continue sleeping with Marguerite after all this, or the most oblivious. It doesn't put Aramis in a good light at all if he does. Bad enough he was using her the way he did, worse if he now keeps doing it.
ReplyDeleteSurely the only reason Marguerite will keep going now is because of Rochefort's blackmail and the demand she get the crucifix. It's a neat twist though that SHE will be using HIM.
I can't imagine Marguerite being that subtle.
ReplyDeleteI imagine her approaching Aramis with some odd comment about the crucifix, and him in return will only look blatantly at her like "what are you saying? I'm busy". That pretty much what i'm expecting from Aramis now, avoiding her like he's the busiest man in the world.
But if Marguerite fails her spying duties from the start, we will surely see Rochefort's disappointment.
"He has absolutely no feelings for her, has shown it quite plainly, and
ReplyDeletehe probably doesn't even need her to get close to the Dauphin now he and
Anne are making eyes at each other again. I imagine they'd find a way
he could be close to his son."
After "Emilie" i thought that was the situation, so i was thinking Marguerite was already... dumped?
But after this episode i've the feeling that Aramis could simply start to avoid her without any explanation... and she's not the smartest fox in the village even when she sees things, so i can't imagine what will she think in this cryptic situation.
Do we know if Aramis is wearing the rosary in episode 8? I couldn't tell from the spoiler pictures in the other thread.
ReplyDeleteHe looks like he's wearing a rosary in a few of the pictures but not sure whether it is the one given to him by the queen.
ReplyDeleteI won't have any respect for Aramis if he tries to continue with the affair. You're right that it would be a neat twist if Marguerite were to be using him instead.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly the problem with her. She has no actual personality to speak of. Any other character we'd have a clue which way they might move, they'd have a personality we can grasp, for good or ill, but with her it's just anyone's guess.
ReplyDeleteI see Dr Feelgood, aka Lemay, aka Ed Stoppard, is back in this episode. I wonder if he spots the injury to Constance after that scumbag Bonacieux slaps her. I have a feeling that, at least initially, she may want to keep it from D'Artagnan. I could see her fearing that he would kill him (which he would) ultimately landing him with a noose around his neck. Somehow I think he will find out though. How he'll then escape a D'Artagnan kebab special, I've no idea.
ReplyDeletein Marguerite place i ended affair, unless she is very in love with aramis, and pretend not to notice what happened. Lets hope she not get pregnant
ReplyDeleteCould his presence have something to do with what you just posted in the Ep 8 thread?
ReplyDeleteHmm, very possibly....
ReplyDeleteThat new sneak peek is just fabulous...I love D'Artagnan when he kills that last man.. Heck I loved them all in that scene.
ReplyDeleteI love Athos' little dig at the king "He's hardly changed since." His humour is one of my favourite things about him. An excellent sneak peek, thanks Sandi! :)
ReplyDeleteThat was extremely hot!
ReplyDeleteThat was a great line, beautifully delivered as always by the glorious Mr Burke.
ReplyDeleteI agree. After the Queens obvious relief that Constance was safe after the Old Fort time, I think the Queen will have her back and try to help get her out of Bonecieux life especially after the slap, if the Queen notices. I'm not sure how much D'Artagnan can do about Constances marriage, did they divorce back then or do they just have to wait for the other person to die before they are free? The suspense is frustrating.
ReplyDeleteScoobie, you are such a romantic, but I love it too. I am so afraid that something really, really bad is going to happen to them.
ReplyDeleteOne can admit, that fight was badass!
ReplyDeleteI guess by the end of this episode, Constance will leave court. And the Queen will be left alone with Marguerite and Rochefort... :/
ReplyDeleteWhy would she? It's not certain that she'll have to.
ReplyDeleteI am liking that Louise's fella is standing behind Bonacieux with a knife in the new pic. :D
ReplyDeleteIt would be a hell of a twist if one of them ended up killing Bonacieux, instead of Constance or d'Artagnan.
ReplyDeleteThat is definitely interesting - perhaps, they oversee the conversation between him and Constance and kills Bonacieux? I'm intrigued as to why the BBC have released these the night before it is due to be viewed - why now?
ReplyDeleteIt would be a genius move of instead of Rochefort offing him and framing Constance, Bonacieux's own desperate vanity might lead to his downfall.
ReplyDeleteIt would certainly be a monumental twist, for which they'd certainly have my respect. Who would have seen that coming.
ReplyDeleteI can't even find them on the site. I can see them on Sandi's Spoiler page, but where are they on BBCA?
ReplyDeleteIt would be a totally, well-thought twist - now it is making more sense as to the title having more than one meaning. A very clever way of getting rid of Bonaciuex!
ReplyDeleteMe neither - not sure. I'm just surprised that they would reveal such a huge spoiler in a photograph, but then again maybe we'll not getting the full picture, as usual.
ReplyDeleteMind you, if Bonacieux is out of the picture, that's good for me! :)
ReplyDeleteIs it a spoiler, though? It's quite ambiguous. If it were an image of the knife in his back, THAT would a spoiler!! :P
ReplyDeleteThey're from BBC America's Tumblr page - http://themusketeersbbca.tumblr.com/ xxxx posted about them in the preview post a short while ago about them going up. They usually post new promo pics on a Thursday apparently.
ReplyDeleteThat's very true!!! It is ambiguous. Yes, if there was blood on the knife and Bonaciuex lying helpless on the floor, that would be different - lol!
ReplyDeleteAh, would help if I'm on the right site. ;) Thanks!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome :)
ReplyDeleteWhoever kills the miserable sod will have my undying affection.😄
ReplyDeleteWe could start a fan club. There'd be plenty of sign-ups!;)
ReplyDeleteI'm in! Where can I join? :)
ReplyDeleteIf it is that dude, I hope he has a name otherwise we'll have to squeeze, "We love the short beardy bloke!" On to a T-Shirt.😄
ReplyDeleteI love the way you think Scoobie
ReplyDeleteJust finished watching delayed - thought it was a great episode - a nice sort of self contained story (Princess Louise), but moving the big picture on as well. Really looking forward to the rest of the series.
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