Nooooo....don't do this to me. I can't stay away from Sneak Peaks but they spoil so much fun. I know, y'all say I have to be strong(er) but I am not (not when my Red is concerned)#Lizzington
All I know is that Tom needs to die. He better not try to get between Red and Liz, they are already going through a rough patch. Tom has been nothing but physically and mentally abusive to Liz.
It's not because of that. It's just her attitude. She always seems morally superior and judgemental towards Red and just generally a bit self-righteous. It's nice to see her feet held to the fire for what she 's done. And what she did do was criminal. You can't lock someone in a boiler room for months on end and withhold medical treatment, even if he is a psychopath. And even if she didn't intend it her criminal actions led to that man dying. I guess my main problem with her is the hypocrisy in her judging Red for his actions while trying to escape talking responsibility for her own.
a psychopath is a psychopath, i would do exactly the same. But i semi-agree with you not on the annoying part because that makes no sense, this all would've been different if she told Red
you don't mean something romantically between Red and Liz right? because that's gross, even if you don't think they're father and daughter they have a familial-like relationship. I doubt Tom is going anywhere anytime soon, and yeah when they had that fight in season 1 it surprised me that he actually hit her, i know he's a psychopath but i thought even HE had limits
You would lock up your ex-husband for months depriving him of medical attention, essentially torturing him? If she just wanted to question him for information she would have turned him over to the FBI, what she did was personal. And I'm fine with that, I'm a big fan of personal vengeance, but if you're going to do it then you can't also be on a moral high-horse judging others, like Red. It gets annoying.
yep, after all he did i don't judge Liz one bit. He never would've talked if he was in FBI custody you know who he is, this guy took down TWO people at the SAME time.
I "like" Tom in the sense that he is a good foil. I think he is basically going to save Liz's butt by coming back. It will refute any testimony given by the guy with the earring if Tom shows up and says Liz never held him captive. Red will also likely help in getting her free. I don't see Red and Liz as romantic, so I am happy Tom is back. I am very curious to see how Red and Tom were working together and for how long.
same here, he's a very good villain and i can't wait for is backstory, especially since Ryan Eggold said it goes back all the way to his childhood. I think it's pretty disgusting that people ship Red and Liz romantically
Yes, Red and Liz romantically. He isn't her father or related to Liz by any means. Lizzington all the way. :D But you probably right about Tom not going anywhere anytime soon. Though I think he's going to cause a whole lot of trouble for Red and Liz. Tom has done nothing but lie and betray Liz. He even coerced her into having sex. Even Megan Boone is against Tom. "I’m adamantly against Tom and Liz being together," Boone said. "I just think it would be really bad for all of womankind."
Red and Liz aren't even related. Lol. There is factual proof that they are not father/daughter. Shipping Red and Liz was the only option for me bc they fit so well together. And I love how their relationship has progressed. Every time they go through something that cause Liz to distrust Red it always ends up bringing them closer.
Well, ya gotta remember that Red doesn't lie to Liz. Never. He may hide certain facts from her but he never lies. She already asked him if he was her father and told her no that he wasn't. It was a very direct question with a direct answer. That of which rarely ever happens. The creators, writers and actors have already confirmed this. Red wants to the one she can trust and rely on so lying to her doesn't serve his purpose. Lying to her will only drive her away and destroy their relationship.
During the fire, another man was seen leaving the fire and leaving Liz behind with a Red unconscious on the ground. When Red says that her father isn't alive anymore I think that either A) Red knows he's alive but the moment her father left her in the fire to die, that man had no longer had any right to call himself "father" bc who leaves their own child to die ? B) Because Red was unconscious during the fire when the man escaped, he may also believe that father died in the fire. So he isn't lying when he says this. He just doesn't know that her father is probably alive.
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Nooooo....don't do this to me. I can't stay away from Sneak Peaks but they spoil so much fun. I know, y'all say I have to be strong(er) but I am not (not when my Red is concerned)#Lizzington
ReplyDeleteI like how that detective shut down Liz. She can annoy me sometimes.
ReplyDeleteHmm... I am a little disappointed that is how Red gets the info on the fulcrum. I was hoping Liz would divulge that on her own.
ReplyDeleteannoying for covering something her psychopathic husband did? THAT's annoying to you?
ReplyDeletethey need to kill aleko, get rid of any loose end
ReplyDeleteAll I know is that Tom needs to die. He better not try to get between Red and Liz, they are already going through a rough patch. Tom has been nothing but physically and mentally abusive to Liz.
ReplyDeleteIt's not because of that. It's just her attitude. She always seems morally superior and judgemental towards Red and just generally a bit self-righteous. It's nice to see her feet held to the fire for what she 's done. And what she did do was criminal. You can't lock someone in a boiler room for months on end and withhold medical treatment, even if he is a psychopath. And even if she didn't intend it her criminal actions led to that man dying. I guess my main problem with her is the hypocrisy in her judging Red for his actions while trying to escape talking responsibility for her own.
ReplyDeletea psychopath is a psychopath, i would do exactly the same. But i semi-agree with you not on the annoying part because that makes no sense, this all would've been different if she told Red
ReplyDeleteyou don't mean something romantically between Red and Liz right? because that's gross, even if you don't think they're father and daughter they have a familial-like relationship. I doubt Tom is going anywhere anytime soon, and yeah when they had that fight in season 1 it surprised me that he actually hit her, i know he's a psychopath but i thought even HE had limits
ReplyDeleteYou would lock up your ex-husband for months depriving him of medical attention, essentially torturing him? If she just wanted to question him for information she would have turned him over to the FBI, what she did was personal. And I'm fine with that, I'm a big fan of personal vengeance, but if you're going to do it then you can't also be on a moral high-horse judging others, like Red. It gets annoying.
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to be a psychopath to hit a woman. You just have to be a drunken red-neck who feels insecure about his manhood.
ReplyDeleteyep, after all he did i don't judge Liz one bit. He never would've talked if he was in FBI custody you know who he is, this guy took down TWO people at the SAME time.
ReplyDeleteI "like" Tom in the sense that he is a good foil. I think he is basically going to save Liz's butt by coming back. It will refute any testimony given by the guy with the earring if Tom shows up and says Liz never held him captive. Red will also likely help in getting her free. I don't see Red and Liz as romantic, so I am happy Tom is back. I am very curious to see how Red and Tom were working together and for how long.
ReplyDeletetrue that, but it surprised me and what does he want now. I mean his boss is dead so what's his plan?
ReplyDeletesame here, he's a very good villain and i can't wait for is backstory, especially since Ryan Eggold said it goes back all the way to his childhood. I think it's pretty disgusting that people ship Red and Liz romantically
ReplyDeleteLIZZINGTON! <3
ReplyDeleteMore Lizzington!!!
ReplyDeleteYes, Red and Liz romantically. He isn't her father or related to Liz by any means. Lizzington all the way. :D But you probably right about Tom not going anywhere anytime soon. Though I think he's going to cause a whole lot of trouble for Red and Liz. Tom has done nothing but lie and betray Liz. He even coerced her into having sex. Even Megan Boone is against Tom. "I’m adamantly against Tom and Liz being together," Boone said. "I just think it would be really bad for all of womankind."
ReplyDeleteRed and Liz aren't even related. Lol. There is factual proof that they are not father/daughter. Shipping Red and Liz was the only option for me bc they fit so well together. And I love how their relationship has progressed. Every time they go through something that cause Liz to distrust Red it always ends up bringing them closer.
ReplyDeletei love Liz's personality it reminds me of Reds!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the factual proof? Genuinely curious...?!
ReplyDeletethere's no proof either way, but even IF they have have a father-daughter relationship
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I don't see it any other way.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Them being romantically involved is so gross, especially since they have a father-daughter relationship.
ReplyDeleteThe idea of Red and Liz romantically involved grosses me out to no end.
ReplyDeleteWell, ya gotta remember that Red doesn't lie to Liz. Never. He may hide certain facts from her but he never lies. She already asked him if he was her father and told her no that he wasn't. It was a very direct question with a direct answer. That of which rarely ever happens. The creators, writers and actors have already confirmed this. Red wants to the one she can trust and rely on so lying to her doesn't serve his purpose. Lying to her will only drive her away and destroy their relationship.
ReplyDeleteI can also direct you to some sites where some dedicated people can explain it better than I.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he was "lying" to her though. He believes he isn't her father anymore. He has made it clear that the hold him is dead.
ReplyDeleteDuring the fire, another man was seen leaving the fire and leaving Liz behind with a Red unconscious on the ground. When Red says that her father isn't alive anymore I think that either
ReplyDeleteA) Red knows he's alive but the moment her father left her in the fire to die, that man had no longer had any right to call himself "father" bc who leaves their own child to die ?
B) Because Red was unconscious during the fire when the man escaped, he may also believe that father died in the fire. So he isn't lying when he says this. He just doesn't know that her father is probably alive.
That is a theory but no proof... :) Dedicated fans till the end. We will find out who is right one day!
ReplyDeleteBut today is not that day! lol
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