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Hello Everyone!
ReplyDeleteWelcome to our weekly Live Discussion of The Blacklist!
My name is Geo N (Geo) and I will be your mediator for this discussion!
ReplyDeleteGEODUDE! Awesomeness chatting with u 2day!!!! :)))
ReplyDeleteI remember someone asked last week if we could keep the discussion separate from the poll and I want you to know I did not forget about you...I am working on getting you an answer...sorry this week will be one post for both...
ReplyDeleteWhen does everyone think Tom will be back?!?
ReplyDeleteHe Ho! Let's go
ReplyDeleteHe was in the previously segment....
ReplyDeleteJust sayin'
the previous segment?
ReplyDeleteHi everyone!
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or is The Blacklist doing more and more disgusting things?
ReplyDeleteHi Joe!
ReplyDeleteThe recap before the episode...
ReplyDeleteWasn't he? I tuned in as it was ending so I only caught a glimpse.
Ohhhh this is getting more real for Liz!
ReplyDeleteHey Joe...
ReplyDeleteWonder if the ratings will bounce back tonight - doubt it with the season finale of you know what going on.
ReplyDeleteAdamTV you and Geo talked today? Where?
ReplyDeleteOhhhh...I meant at what point on this episode will he be back...middle, end...very very end?
ReplyDeleteAhh okay.
ReplyDelete4 shure we message~ twitter buds :)))
ReplyDeletebin frends since last week~ hez the bomb!!!!
saw rad pix of him+ wifey 2!!!
do u tweet dude?
ReplyDeleteF4F ~ ill hook u up in r chatz
I hope the ratings bounce back soon...they need it!
ReplyDeleteTaxidermists freak me out, but I am oddly fine with Taxidermied animals. XD
ReplyDeleteSo thats a no on Norman Bates? Lol
ReplyDeletewhose the dearhunter?
ReplyDeleteOne of the many aspects that make me find Norman creepy! XD
ReplyDeleteI like Bates Motel.... great show!
ReplyDeleteMaybe I will.
ReplyDeletecool beens dude!!!!
ReplyDeleteYep, good show.
ReplyDeleteSomething keeps me from loving it though... Not sure exactly what.
Liz is going to need to be rescued once again ( from the persistent detective) as she usually does not come up with clever ways out on her own.
ReplyDeleteI love how Red has these intimate relationships with people from his past dealings! XD
ReplyDeleteWow Amanda Plummer!
ReplyDeleteI did not even recognize her in the first few scenes I guess....
Why is Christopher Plummer and Tammy Grimes' daughter butchering people.
ReplyDeleteI didn't either..
ReplyDeleteMaybe she had to listen to The Sound of Music one too many times when she was young?
ReplyDeleteI know that soundtrack makes me a bit crazy every time I hear it! XD
Lol
ReplyDeleteWhat was that about???
ReplyDeleteOr maybe if someone blows a whistle she kills people, instead of coming to dinner.
ReplyDeleteLOL! Thats awesome!!
ReplyDeleteXD
ReplyDeleteOh, my goodness, Red's appointment was with him - he gave up his chance to meet with the voice-man for Liz.
ReplyDeleteRad earbling
ReplyDeleteRed is awesome! That is really great what he just did...
ReplyDelete... and Samuel Eleto gets his first Red's Storytime experience! XD
ReplyDeleteYeah..
ReplyDeleteAnd Liz will not care because "Red is only in it for himself" in her mind...
Well, at least at this time. Few minutes later she could think otherwise.
I'm sure she will find out what he did, right? Then she will be back digging him...
ReplyDeleteAnd it usually involves food.
ReplyDeleteOK, it's getting to be about time for Tom.
ReplyDeleteI agree!
ReplyDeleteAlthough, something tells me he will be the final 8 seconds of the Ep
ReplyDeleteCrazy cat lady!!!!
ReplyDeleteSo all the messy gutting is just a cover to make the killings look like the work of the Deer Hunter.
ReplyDeleteEven worse.. Crazy bird lady! XD
ReplyDeleteLol!
ReplyDeleteDid Red just use the Jedi Mind trick on Aram?
ReplyDelete*Hand wave*
You won't need a warrant."
"Of course I won't need a warrant..."
Geo Dude I can't answer yor question you unfollowed me!!!! :(((((
ReplyDeleteSorry dude check again...must have been a mistake...
ReplyDeleteWish I could leap over fences like that.
ReplyDeleteJoe who?
ReplyDeleteon twitter
ReplyDelete??????
ReplyDeletefrends again dude :)))))
ReplyDeleteCan we keep Lizzie hanging there for a while? Come to think of it, a lot of hanging goes on in this series : Red, Ressler, the lady agent..
ReplyDeleteWhy do you want me to delete Joe dude?
ReplyDeleteIm confuesd
Huh it's similar to The Good Sumritan from last year.
ReplyDeleteDelusional person with an abusive past killing people to protect abuse victims...
At least in her mind.
Oh, wow, the Deer Hunter was her husband.
ReplyDeletedont no how XD
ReplyDeleteWhoa, this is getting intense!
ReplyDeleteThat was cool! She was doing it just like Tom...
ReplyDeleteWow this woman must be seriously out of it/dumb if Liz can mentally out maneuver her! XD
ReplyDeleteWe can't go than more than one episode without a flip flop.
ReplyDeleteSounded like Liz was hearing Tom's voice as Ressler enters the room to stop her.. Wow indeed!
ReplyDeleteNot surprisingly Liz has not moved on as much as she thought... or pretends.
Uh,oh, it looks like they are waiting till the last to bring Tom back in.
ReplyDeleteExactly! With no malice as well.
ReplyDeleteRight? She is going off the deep end! I wonder if its just because of the investigation or something else?
ReplyDeleteShe will go and the detective will tell her The Samoan took his statement back...
ReplyDeleteAck!
ReplyDeleteNow Liz will be mad that Red saved her from herself by having Samoan change his testimony!
Lol thats great!
ReplyDeleteLol - "I don't remember"
ReplyDeleteSexy!
ReplyDeleteThat was awesome!
ReplyDeleteHey, it worked for Oliver North! XD
ReplyDeleteLOL! HAHAHA - thats hilarious
ReplyDeleteLove the blood hand print giving Red the finger! XD
ReplyDeleteWhat a great turn of events!!!
ReplyDeleteHEY!!! Where's TOM!!!
ReplyDeleteThey said that last week!!!
ReplyDeleteLike I suspected... It was one of those tricks where they preview future episodes and not just the next episode!
ReplyDelete%$#$%^&!
Blankety-blanky- NO TOM till next week . Those con men promoters.
ReplyDeleteThats a dirty trick, Lol
ReplyDeleteIt would be fun if Tom bought Red! XD
ReplyDeleteThat would be great - It really would be a perfect way to bring him back into the fold...Having him 'save' Red in some way...
ReplyDeleteThank you all for participating in the Live Discussion this week! It was a lot of fun!
ReplyDeletePlease vote above about what you thought about the episode please...
ReplyDeleteThey seriously need to cool it with the kidnappings. HAHA All in all, I enjoyed this episode. I agree with Red and his reason for why Lizzie is keeping the fulcrum from him. It was something I had been "guessing" on for a while.
ReplyDeleteWell said...I agree...
ReplyDeleteWell overallI thought it was a bit of a repetitive episode and felt a lot like Good Sumaritan to me. Not as creepy for some reason despite having a creepier suspect. Maybe I just liked Frank Whaley's performance more than Amanda Plummer's?
ReplyDeleteBest part was Liz admitting she has the Fulcrum... Or as I suspect... She thinks she has The Fulcrum but just has the next pice to finding the real Fulcrum...
I agree with Red's rationale also. If she gives him The Fulcrum then of what use is she? The show is predicated on Red giving blacklisters to the FBI that help his own agenda to get The Fulcrum...so what now that Liz has it?
ReplyDeleteA lot of these blacklisters I feeling repetitive. I enjoyed all the other parts though. Which seems to be a common theme with me... I enjoy everything but the Blacklister.
ReplyDeleteYes! I think she 'thinks' she has The Fulcrum but really doesn't...
ReplyDeleteThey are feeling a little repetitive...i agree
ReplyDeleteAnd, can I just say, I'm sorry, I know I am a broken record, but I despise Liz's character... They really need to make her more likeable in someway, anyway...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm not sure why they are doing that with her...it's a little confusing why they are making her unlikeable...she was much more fun and enjoyable to watch in season one to be honest...
ReplyDeleteShe has been the weak link of the show from the beginning in my opinion.,,
ReplyDeleteI think Megan Boone's performance has gotten better, Her hair is much better... but overall the character remains just as annoying...
Agreed, too many episodes to go for it to really be the Fulcrum.
ReplyDeleteYes! Season one she had some heart, some vulnerability, some interest... She acts colder than Red, and he is supposed to be the cold hearted killer. I get that she has been through the ringer, but she doesn't act human. And, please, for the love of pete, can she have an actual conversation with Red... Get mad at him, yell at him, something... ANYTHING.
ReplyDeleteunfortunately a lot of fans share that opinion...
ReplyDeleteNow that was the real gutting remark of the episode - Red's take on the truth to Lizzie.
ReplyDeleteYes! you are right! I always thought (And Darque I would like for you to weigh in on this please) that Liz's character would be akin to Walter White's for Breaking Bad - Much like he went from Mr. Chips to Scarface, Liz would do the same with her character - going from sweet and innocent agent to a cold blooded killer over the course of the series...waddya think?
ReplyDeleteSone of that goes on Red as well since he often talks "past" Lizziie...
ReplyDeleteOF course when he has attempted to connect she has rebuked him frequently...
I'm just bored with her woe-is-me attitude.
Think outside of yourself you selfish *%&%$^%*%*%&%* non-professional ^$^%^% childish %^*$*%&^^ petulant melodrama addict!
And Lizzie was in the bidding crowd.
ReplyDeleteI know she is supposed to be going "gray" as the series goes on, and that is ok, but it doesn't feel natural. It is a mixture of the performance and the writing.
ReplyDeleteVery good point...its a mixture...
ReplyDeleteI coukld find that route interesting, but I'n not sure they needed to do that to make her a successful character.
ReplyDeleteI think her going from naive rookie to someone whose eyes have been opened by experience and knowledge could be interesting as well. Right now she is stuck in a childlike state where she is passive-aggressive and reactionary to everything she does not agree with.
Like when she was going to "confess," it didn't really feel like that was backing up on her. It wasn't written on her face so to speak... I didn't "believe" that she felt bad. I felt more along the lines of Ressler that she was playing martyr. (the Liz fans are going to kill me.
ReplyDeleteI like the idea of her morally ambiguous like Red... chaotic neutral so to speak. There is just something wrong with her character. I want to like her or feel for her, I really do. I am more excited about Tom coming back. Stupid promos lie...
ReplyDeleteIt's ok, lol...I like when people express their opinions...I think you have a valid theory and it did very well appear that way to me also...
ReplyDeleteThat is a very good point as well...right now she is very reactionary and waiting for things to happen, whereas the season one Liz was more of a go getter. I feel that season one Liz would have figured out That thing she got out of the stiffed bunny by now.
ReplyDeleteTrue.
ReplyDeleteI understand her.. Hell, maybe a person traumatized as a child should react like she does to Red and adverse situations... Maybe it is realistic on a psychological level, but it annoys me to no end. XD
Exactly.
ReplyDeleteShe was untested before surely, but after going through the events she has and surviving it seems like she has become more fragile instead of less.
I would think surviving those experiences would make her stronger...
It'll likely be revealed in the season finale/premiere of season 3 like Berlin.
ReplyDeleteDid you do the odds on when they are going to get along again? She needs to be friends with him again before she gets mad that he was working with Tom. haha
ReplyDeleteYou would think yes, but sadly we don;t see it...Hopefully they improve on her character soon though...
ReplyDeleteLol, I forgot about when she finds out he was working with Tom!
ReplyDeleteOi vey! XD
ReplyDeleteSadly, so true!
i love how she almost killed the girl with that look in her eyes i got the chills!
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeleteit's scary
ReplyDeleteDidn't she have another deranged role on Hannibal?
ReplyDeleteI really loved this episode...it seemed to have a kind of parallel to The Good Samaritan in that the copy cat killer was going after those who have done wrong to others. The whole Fulcrum mystery is borderline irritating and exciting at the same time. I'm just curious to find out what Tom's role is in all of this mayhem. I am so looking forward to the remainder of the season!!
ReplyDeleteAnother pretty good episode.
ReplyDelete"Dark Side Liz" has been great this season, but will the writers ever "pull the trigger" and have Liz try life on the "Red Side" of things.............we can hope. Amanda Plummer is always great (ie: Prophecy/Pulp Fiction) I'd like to see her on TV regularly (the shovel and body harness scenes were the most memorable). Tom is asking "for it" and he's going to get, but from who.......Liz or Red? Excellent episode, but am I the only one who misses "Doppelganger Liz" (her body double)? 4 THE REDDINGTON CONNECTION, I am Nobody!!!
ReplyDeleteReally liked the semi reconciliation scene at the end. Great episode for Liz. Agree that the Blacklister was so so. The Harness was a super cool scene, and great way to play on the Habour master murder. And LOL Navabi and Aram were golden in this episode! I loved that look she gave as she was walking up to him! I hope they dont kill her off!!!
ReplyDeleteSo now the show is adapting fairy tales... Tracy Solobotkin, is a perverted Snow White, working at the Snow Haven help group, the twist is in her last name as a bodkin is a long needle use for puncturing the pural of which is a botkin but she is solo as in lone.
ReplyDeleteThe thing about Snow White is that she was saved by the hunts man but she marries the Prince because that is what princess's due. The allusion seems to be to Liz's parents. In Snow White, the Evil Queen kills the father. Who killed who in the fire Liz remember?
Could Liz be needing to find her mother in all this? Was the woman who raised Liz her mother at all?
Perhaps the villain we do not know is her.
As for the man on the phone, sounds like Ben Kingsly.
Oh and amazing the way the deer hunter's equipment is right next to the victim's house. Bad, so bad but looked a bit like the finale from Girl With The Dragon Tattoo not Silence of the Lambs.
The whole point of a Snow White tale is to point out that the female need not be helpless as is always assumed. The reason The Huntsman was sent to kill Snow was to butcher her and not taint the heart which in the original tale the Queen plans to eat to absorb her power. In this episode they bite the liver not the heart, perhaps because that is where adrenaline is produced. Just guessing there. Snow White's innocence was her strength, but in a Garden of Eden way that innocence is taken with an apple and next thing she learns is she can only be happy with a man by her side. Or can she?
Give this a thought and understand that Tom is Liz's prince Charming, but Liz is a bit more like Sleeping Beauty than Snow White, her father, a soldier still there to protect her should her prince be bad. In Sleeping Beauty Tales the wonder is in who will show up for that first kiss, a prince or an Ogre? And will the Princess be a loving follower or a terrible shrew. And what will happen to her while she sleeps?
As for the fulcrum, would stink if Liz were right and a waste or a lovely prosthetic to give her a burn mark, scar tissue to perhaps hide something small or remove something marked. still think box nothing more than a voice recording.
The fun thing last night was Red having Aram trace a call which meant testing the system to see if anyone was listening. Apparently, the team is being bugged by someone. But who? And whose blood is on the floor? No way it was Kingsly.
Next week an auction, will be fun to see who all shows up.
It would be great if it turns out to be Kingsley!
ReplyDeleteMy first thought was it might be Armin Shimmerman based on the shape of his big ears and the hair line... Of course those same traits apply to many actors.
Went off his voice and the bald head
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