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Ratings News - 3rd February 2015

Feb 3, 2015

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

Tables being updated live. Please refresh for updates.


Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Monday Ratings
Season High for “Celebrity Apprentice” on NBC

Monday 2/02/15

Household
Rating/Share
CBS 5.8/ 9
ABC 5.7/ 9
NBC 4.6/ 7
Fox 3.5/ 5
CW 1.1/ 2

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Monday 2/04/14:
NBC: +92, CW: +10, CBS: no change, ABC: – 7, Fox: -24
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“The Bachelor” (ABC), “Celebrity Apprentice” (NBC), “2 Broke Girls” (CBS), “Mike & Molly” (CBS), “NCIS: Los Angeles” (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
“Scorpion” R (CBS)

-Losers:
“The Originals” (CW), “Jane the Virgin” (CW), “State of Affairs” (NBC)

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Ratings Breakdown:
CBS inched past ABC for Monday overnight household dominance, besting the alphabet net by one-tenth of a rating point. But the bigger story was “Celebrity Apprentice” on NBC, which rose to a season-high 5.3 rating/8 share in households from 8-10 p.m. (and only fluctuated by one-tenth of a rating point in the four half-hours). In the battle of the reality/competitions, “Celebrity Apprentice” trailed competing “The Bachelor” on ABC (6.1/ 9) by only 13 percent.

Considering how well “Celebrity Apprentice” has performed this season, it really is too bad NBC rushed through the entire season. SPOILER ALERT: If you have not seen the second episode last night yet, stop reading. But firing all three members of the losing team had to be a result of the shorter episode order this season. Had there been only one firing, we could have had two additional episodes. Note to Kenya Moore: it is time for you to fade into oblivion.

Despite the lead-in support, freshman NBC drama “State of Affairs” could only muster a 3.2/ 5 in the overnights at 10 p.m., which trailed competing “NCIS: Los Angeles” (#1: 6.2/10) on CBS and “Castle” on ABC (#2: 5.0/ 8) by 48 percent and 36 percent, respectively.

Earlier in the evening on CBS were original installments of 8-9 p.m. sitcoms “2 Broke Girls” (#2: 6.0/ 9) and “Mike & Molly” (#1: 6.1/ 9) into an encore telecast of hit freshman drama “Scorpion” at a 5.1/ 8 (#3) from 9-10 p.m. Yes, BH…the word is hit! Aforementioned “NCIS: Los Angeles” (#1: 6.2/10) built from the 9:30 p.m. portion of the encore “Scorpion” lead-in (5.0/ 8) by 24 percent. And both “2 Broke Girls” and “Mike & Molly” were on par with year-ago Monday 8-9 p.m. time period occupants “”How I Met Your Mother” and “2 Broke Girls.”

Elsewhere, Fox’s demo friendly “Gotham” dipped by one-tenth of a rating point week to week, with a 4.1/ 6 (#4) at 8 p.m. And it led into a typically diluted 2.9/ 4 for “Sleepy Hollow” at 9 p.m., which was 34 percent below the 4.4/ 7 for year-ago occupant “The Following.” Speaking of “The Following,” the Kevin Bacon drama will return for season three on March 2. The CW, meanwhile, could not compete with its low-rated combination of scripted hours “The Originals” (#5: 1.2/ 2) and “Jane the Virgin” (#5: 1.0/ 1), which is the network series on the air at present most worthy of a larger audience.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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The first item that gets posted (normally around 2pm GMT) is the early overnight analysis based on the early household numbers (these are not the same as the Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers that are posted later).

Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.

Later on (normally between 4pm-5pm GMT) we post the official early overnight Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers in the table above (We also where possible now post the 18-34 and 25-54 Demo Numbers).

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181 comments:

  1. Huh? Don't get the whole CW bit.

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  2. "worthy of a larger audience" I'm laughing my .... off!

    Glad The Originals stayed more or less steady, hoping for a 0,7.

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  3. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    Marc is annoying, but he states the truth at this case.

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  4. lol TO and JtV's ratings are exactly what they are every week and suddenly they are in the losing category? okaaaaay

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  5. If I rembember SH did well in S1

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  6. Personally I disagree, there are 3 shows (Reign, The100 and Hod) that deserve larger audience and JtV isn't one of them.

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  7. It did for the first 10 episodes or so. Same with Gotham. FOX has a huge problem with keeping it going though. Weaknesses for both surfaced.

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  8. Every week he make comment about Jane and every week this whole comment section is about this one comment. Not only his comments are annoying, but at this points every comment here complaining is starting to be annoying

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  9. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:26 PM

    SH's momentum lasted more. No one hyped it, but it suprised everyone premiering to a 3.2. It started falling when it dropped to low 2s for the final season 1 episodes. Premiering to a series low in season 2 settled its shelf life to just 3 seasons.


    Gotham and SHIELD were the most hyped shows of their respective fall seasons, hence their strong start, but they never truly had momentum after their pilots.

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  10. well i mean its not like they are good ratings in general 0.5/0.6 sure they are better than what was previously on CW mondays but still nothing to celebrate in my opinion

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  11. he actually usually has them in the looser category, not last week because their ratings were higher

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  12. "which is the network series on the air at present most worthy of a larger audience"
    I love that his arrogant ideas of worthy just reiterates every single week that his version of worthy doesn't match mine and if it did, I'd turn in my TV viewer card.
    Does he even have a degree in Communications, English or Journalism?

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  13. Celebrity Apprentice grew to series highs? It's getting expanded and moved away from the role of The Voice filler. it's doing too well for it to not be considered as a fall option.

    NBC has the Cheryl Burke variety/dance competition show that can easily fill that role over two nights, if needed.

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  14. Either SHIELD 2.0 or Sleepy Hollow 2.0. Both shows which started very well but can't seem to find any lasting momentum.

    If Gotham falls below a 2.0 (and it will happen very soon), rumored new schedule mate Minority Report is going to get a very tough draw. It'll have to self start or it will be DOA.

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  15. Low-rated combination?? Both shows are doing good for Mondays! So, that's what I expect:

    -The Originals 0.6-0.7
    -Jane the Virgin 0.5-0.6

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  16. It will be interesting to see if Gotham hit a new low

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  17. He's just being an arrogant p---k. Can't you just see him gleefully rubbing his hands together, cackling like a loon while he types this dredge up?

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  18. I think so ( in terms of ratings)
    Plus The Voice as well as DWTS returning doesn't bode well + Daylight Savings

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  19. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Another 0.5-0.6 rating for Jane, it's more likely to get the first one.

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  20. Oh god no. Gotham aint that crap yet

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  21. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    So, is Gotham SHIELD 2.0?

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  22. Yes, BH…the word is hit!
    Who's BH?

    which is the network series on the air at present most worthy of a larger audience.
    No, that's The 100

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  23. I'm so gobsmacked that everything's kicking off....ON SPOILER TV.

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  24. i know right i mean this is his website he apparently loves Janes the virgin and feels its ratings should be better Yet nobody comments on the fact he lists it as loosers. Don´t know why people let him bother them so much

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  25. My exact thoughts while I was reading it too

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  26. I agree with the three shows, but JtV deserves it too!

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  27. Both Jane and The 100 are the best shows on CW, I can't see why it has to be one or the other.

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  28. I never though The Following is old skewing.

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  29. Jupp pretty much i love JTV never ever in a million years thought i would but its awesome and same for the 100 both very good shows but why Marc B can´t have his personal opinion about it in his own column i´ll never understand

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  30. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Older skewing than SH, but 41% puts it above most shows in the big 3.

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  31. I know it's demos will be at least 2.0, but I can't believe Gotham's HH rating is in Bones territory.

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  32. Ah I see. I'm more surprise that it had more viewers than Gotham.

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  33. Shield is just plain boring. The problem with Gotham is that the procedural elements are getting on everyone's nerves. The show could have been a huge hit (not just by Fox standards) if it was centered on a teen Bruce Wayne rather than an adult Jim Gordon. Gordon has always been a dull character.

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  34. Why do people get so riled up over Marc's opinions? It's not like you can be surprised at this point lol. Every week he's going to mention that he thinks more people should be watching Jane... it's his column, and he's going to keep expressing his opinions (just like we all do). It's not arrogant, or stupid, or wrong.. it's just an opinion (I don't watch Jane, or any other CW show for that matter.. so I don't care either way. Just think it's funny that people here turn it into such a big deal)

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  35. On the CW it is. The only way they'd do better is putting a strong fan-based show on Monday like Supernatural, which has proven that it will do well basically anywhere.

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  36. Gotham skews younger.

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  37. Can't see it. Sorry. For me he is just funny. I can laugh every tuesday

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  38. JTV gets awful ratings and TO gets average ratings so they are definitely a low rated combination

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  39. I have to laugh at CW promoting Jane which normally gets 0.4-0.5 as a "hit show".I mean I like Jane,but ratings wise,it's not a hit even for CW.

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  40. I have to accept the fact that I always start to like shows when people decide they don't like them anymore .I think Gotham is much, much better since it came back, but of course ratings are dropping now lol.

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  41. Well, compared to the 0.3's the CW had on Mondays, it's a decent combination.

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  42. All networks promote their shows as hits.

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  43. NBC called TMoL a hit when they gave it a back-order.

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  44. Well they are low rated, its just that compared to how low CW shows are anyway they arent doing too bad. Besides I think he's referring more to the HH ratings which were low.

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  45. Oh, I know that. I was just saying that I'm shocked that it's viewer numbers have gotten to Bones territory. HH ratings indicate viewer numbers, right?

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  46. Yeah, same happens to me. That's why I mostly stick to shows on Amazon prime and Netflix. I can't stand the Nielsen system.

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  47. Meh. At the end of the day it's just a dude's opinion, and one that we all read by CHOICE. No one is making us. It's not gonna change, and it's not like him stating his opinion changes anything... I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

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  48. Percentage of households watching, but they are indication of the viewers.

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  49. Of course. But he's not going to lol

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  50. So much for Gotham never falling below a 2...

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  51. The Bachelor 2.4/2.6
    CA. 2.0/2.1

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  52. Another season high for Bachelor.

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  53. Both reality franchises are on fire. It's very surprising that they both are able to coexist so well as well!

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  54. Hopefully it adjusts up..

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  55. Caslte should be moved to Sundays, the show has collapsed.

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  56. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    I know that feeling as a Fringe/Hannibal fan.


    Can't wait for Jane to get Reign-esque ratings at season 2.

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  57. Gotham could be at a 1.5-1.7 around March worrisome..

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  58. Same with Fringe. Hannibal never actually did very well so I am not sure it qualifies, but Fringe sure as hell is a good example. At least when people left syndication was close enough to offset it.

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  59. Sounded like a complete child. And the funny thing is that your trolling isn't even relevant since the show has already been renewed for season 2. Knowing Heller, he will now adjust the show's tone and plot for season 2 in order to get better ratings.

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  60. It would pull Forever esque ratings most likely after Shield since I can't imagine them being all that compatible. I think that slot should be used for a male skewing drama that appeals to the M18-34 crowd that watches Shield, not to the W25-54 crowd that watches Castle and Forever, it doesn't make sense.

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  61. Quite good for CBS line-up, including Scorpion (R)

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  62. I agree. Short of trying a new comedy post 2 Broke Girls (possibly a younger skewing one) they shouldn't touch the lineup next year.

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  63. People are just calling bad journalism for what it is. And making fun of it, which is very healthy. I don't see anything bad in it. On the other hand, you being annoyed by people's normal and healthy reaction is strange.

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  64. lol.. all I did was point out how redundant it is to read the same comments here every single day about something that isn't going to change. Keep on keeping on, no need to get your panties in a twist ;)

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  65. And people want NBC to drop one hour of the Voice/keep it to spring just because Celebrity Apprentice does a 2.1.
    Okay then.

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  66. This speaks to me, I went through that with Fringe: the more I came to like it - and adore it - the lower it rated.


    Other examples include 30 Rock, Community, Revolution, Chuck, Flashforward, among many, many others. It's like my taste and the broad audience taste is widely different

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  67. Great for CBS! LA won the time slot and the comedies are in the mid 2s.

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  68. You go after 1 show week after week after week. I'm making a statement about the bizarre fascination with reality shows. Reality shows are for dummies.

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  69. I think Gotham is much, much better since it came back, but of course ratings are dropping now lol.

    THIS^^^^ Same thoughts here. :(

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  70. I was about to declare doom and gloom for Scorpion and then realised its a repeat, not bad! I hope Gotham doesn't keep dropping, been enjoying it recently

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  71. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:14 PM

    CBS comedies thriving with Voice off the map.


    That's bad for Gotham, can FOX carry it to syndication like ABC will do to SHIELD?

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  72. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM

    Looks like that superhero show from your favorite network.

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  73. Unfounately I can see Gotham bleeding more as TV is returning sook.

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  74. Recent episodes of Gotham have been quite good.

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  75. True. But sadly, quality and ratings don't always go hand in hand (thus the good ratings for so many reality shows).

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  76. I was thinking of dropping Gotham,glad i didn't its good!

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  77. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    February 23rd

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  78. I think it is better to move it to SUnday

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  79. Victor Hugo G. SoaresFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    2 Broke Girls, Mike & Molly and The Originals did well and Jane back to earth
    Ouch for Gotham

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  80. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:17 PM

    Yes, given their procedural nature, CBS shows repeat very well, often going above 1.0

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  81. Now those are the ratings i'm use to seeing for NCIS LA,YaY!

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  82. Oh Revolution and Flashforward! Such good examples. And V as well! But Revolution is probably the best since it became a totally different show in Season 2 and was axed. It is the cancelled show I miss the most from last season, damn!

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  83. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:19 PM

    I'll wait until we see Nashville's ratings. It isn't like Nashville can go past 4 seasons.

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  84. I hope Gotham not being a huge hit doesn't deter people from attempting a Gotham City show in the future. It can be done right, you just have to center the show on Bruce Wayne.

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  85. Yes Gotham is getting closer to Bones household ratings, but their demo numbers are still far higher and they DVR well. Sleepy Hollow is a lot closer to Bones demo numbers. It is sad for FOX that they cannot beat Bachelor or Celebrity Apprentice. It doesn't appear Castle went up or down in demo numbers, maybe they will adjust up. CBS keeps on rolling and State of Affairs is dead.

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  86. Which is exactly why I wouldn't bother moving now. I agree that we need to see spring ratings before but if the show hangs on to the same mediocre but passable level it had in the fall I would leave it where it is for one more year. In two years they have the slot open for a new thing anyway. Besides, I think Nashville would completely crater to sub Revenge levels on sundays at 10m (unless the 9pm show hits big time) whereas Castle would do badly but probably better so the slot would be better off. And I don't think Wednesdays at 10 is necessarily a better slot to launch a new drama than Mondays at 10 is.

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  87. Come on Sleepy Hollow! You can do better!

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  88. I like Sleepy Hollow but it is quite embarrassing to straight out loose to a Scorpion repeat...

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  89. I miss Revolution; it is one of the few shows that went from bad to great in a single season; it was an impressive change as cast and crew stepped up their game... and yet the show ended up canned :(

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  90. I know, right? It's awful.

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  91. 2 broke girls is, MM is low 2s. Still, they both did great

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  92. Now you're making even less sense.
    You're saying Marc has right to express his opinion.
    You're saying you have right to be annoyed by people commenting his opinions.
    But you're demanding other people not having right to express their annoyance by his worthless analysis. Let all shut up, only Marc & Max can speak.

    Have a nice day.

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  93. Well, until very reccently CW only promoted Flash as a hit and rightly so,but since returning from hiatueses,they've been promoting Jane as hit but they didn't earlier in the season.Though they'd learned thier lesson from EOMD

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  94. When is The Voice returning? End of February?

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  95. Castle will never see a 2.0 again then?

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  96. Castle's 18-34 is the only thing the show has going for it. It's 18-49 doesn't look good.
    And Gotham's ratings aren't promising either

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  97. Ouch for Gotham.

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  98. Most CW shows deserve larger audiences but they get the audiences they get. There is nothing stopping JTV getting a bigger audience other than the show its self. If people arent interested they arent interested regardless of what a fan of the show thinks the show should be getting in terms of size of audience.

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  99. Ouch for FOX in general. FOX's Mondays are sinking fast.

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  100. I would prefer if he just stuck to the ratings.

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  101. I'm saying Tuesdays at 10.

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  102. The originals .7
    JTV .5

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  103. Yet u accuse me of trashing shows. Double standard?

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  104. Bones is 10 yrs old Gotham is only 1

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  105. And those 18-34 viewers are all due to The Bachelor.

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  106. Because he disguises his subjective opinions as objective ratings analysis.
    And then he goes great lengths to justify that laughable "analysis", by simply saying he takes in account everything... total viewers, HH ratings, DVR viewership. Perhaps he takes into account the wind strength and direction also, who knows.
    Well, readers are not stupid. They know HH ratings are not important for more than 4 decades, and that total viewers were never important. And that broadcast network doesn't care about Live+7 (because advertisers care only about C3, not because networks are evil).

    Nobody would care if he would write two articles to separate those things. If he would have one article with objective ratings report, and the other one where he would put crap like "Jane the Virgin is the greatest thing since sliced bread, it should be more viewed." and "I hate Supernatural, I wish Dawn cancelled it five years ago." This mishmash articles, this passive-aggressive disguising? No wonder it irks people.

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  107. It depends on what failsFebruary 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM

    Would Castle moving to tuesdays be an improvement over Forever (even if it's a small one) or is the show at its last legs?

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  108. But at least it's been renewed for season 2 already.

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  109. Its not about my dislike. Its about proving im right which i am.

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  110. NBC has a shot at getting close to a 2.5 with the Celebrity Apprentice season finale. Great for that show.

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  111. You keep saying he states his opinion, but he states it more as fact instead of his own opinion. That's a pretty sure way to get under people's skin. And of course people are going to read it...it's where the information is...

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  112. Isn't a season 2 already guaranteed?

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  113. Oh, okay. I thought it was something like that.

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  114. Congrats for The Bachelor winning the night in 18-49 and 18-34.
    And congrats for CBS, whose comedies are holding really well.

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  115. Castle losing almost half its demo lead in. What a waste of Bachelor lead in.

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  116. he literally changes his mind on a weekly basis about random shows

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  117. It's time for Castle to move

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  118. Winners: The Bachelor, Celebrity Apprentice, 2 Broke Girls, Mike and Molly, Scorpion (R), NCIS Los Angeles, The Originals

    Meh: Jane The Virgin

    Worrisome: Gotham

    Losers: Castle, State of Affairs, Sleepy Hollow

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  119. Further proof American audiences will never shake their fascination with crappy reality shows.

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  120. Scorpion repeat beating Sleepy Hollow, oh dear. Is it normal for a CBS show other than comedies to repeat that well? I don't follow any other CBS ratings.

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  121. Ouch @ gotham but i understand why people would be quitting. I quit the show myself two weeks ago

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  122. Predictably, you're back again to troll. How weird. I wouldn't waste a second talking about a show I dislike.

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  123. ... You must be unaware with how well CBS repeats perform. Trust me, no one at FOX is worried about a stable show when its lead in is collapsing.

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  124. CBS repeats are usually stronger because they are procedural shows.

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  125. I dropped it to make room for better shows that might come!

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  126. Damn was that an original castle what happened to the show 1.4 seems to be a recurring thing

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  127. power outages last night thru the midwest & east coast due to storms

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  128. Yeah, you're right! Somehow I wrote something different than what I intended to write.

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  129. Same here. I've tried multiple times to like it because I like the premise, but somehow, I just can't get into it that much. It's too bad because I do like the cast.

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  130. Great for NCIS:LA with 1,7 after last episode and just 1,3.

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  131. A la Person of Interest. Ratings have lowered while the quality is through the roof.

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  132. Didn't realize Gotham is actually up in total viewers. Seems the 18-49 crowd is tuning out in favor of crappy reality shows.

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  133. POI's lower ratings can mostly be attributed to going from a fantastic slot (Thursdays at 9) to Tuesdays at 10.

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  134. I'm not feeling Gotham. It's good, but it's way too procedural. It's a regular police show, why did it need the Batman property to tell the stories they're telling?


    If i have to be honest, i would prefer for Gotham to be cancelled so shows like Arrow, Flash or the upcoming Titans could have the freedom to use any of Batman's Rogue Gallery.

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  135. Yeah, that's a major factor.

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  136. Castle gets a 1.4 out of a 2.5 lead-in, while Forever gets a 1.0 (in a troubled time slot) out of a 1.5. I know all about the production situation and whatnot, but it's ridiculous that ABC is dead set on bringing Castle back while Forever is deemed dead.

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  137. That's the one good thing about dvr's...can always record while watching something else!

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  138. I think that Jane the Virgin is a good show on the wrong station and I'm not surprised that the targeted audience didn't embrace it. I think it's ratings might have been better on ABC or ABC Family. Anyway, I don't get why people get so upset about the positive attention that Jane the Virgin is getting, especially since there have been so many complaints in the past about the CW getting no love from the awards circuit. Plus, I think that Monday has often been a tough slot for CW shows and it doesn't have that great a lead-in.

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  139. My bad, I was sure I seen it 1,3 but just checked in adjusted ratings it had 1,5 :)

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  140. Possibly, but I think you could argue that there is nothing stopping all the other CW shows from getting better ratings either. If people aren't interested in the 100 or Reign or HOD, then what the fans think, shouldn't matter either.

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  141. Final The Blacklist's number: 8.4 and 25.7 million viewers.

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  142. True but it's already renewed

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  143. My thoughts exactly about the first thing you said. As for the second thing, it's already been renewed for a second season. The problem is Heller. He loves cop shows (He made The Mentalist) so he made the mistake of centering the show on Gordon.

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  144. Yes.It was renewed for season two in Jan.

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  145. I don´t think it ever had a 1.3...

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  146. Plus, Bones really didn't start being below 2 until it moved to Fridays last season.

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  147. I don't see the big deal. He's allowed to say which shows are his favorites, as long as he reports the results fairly. for example, Jane the Virgin is listed under "loser", so even though he likes the show, he isn't trying to hide that it's ratings aren't great. The ongoing complaint has been that he keeps putting "the 100" under the loser heading, when people argue that it is actually doing OK. it gets the same ratings as Jane the Virgin, but people say that Jane the Virgin is doing terribly (even though the 100 has a much better lead-in that is more likely to share the same audience).

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  148. You must also realze that 1.Castle is in season seven,while Forever is in season one.Forever would be getting below 1.0 in season two beyond if even not this spring,. 2.Castle has DVD sales and syndication deal and more episodes of Castle for syndication means more money.3.Forever is WB owned,Castle ABC so ABC makes money off Castles syndication deal while they wouldn't off Foevers if it made to syndication.It's not just about retention .

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  149. I don't mid the positive attention Janes gets but CW saying its a hit when ratings wise it's tied with Reign & HoD as lowest rated CW show bothers me cause it's a lie .

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  150. I'm guessing they mean it's a hit with reviewers? .I've only watched one or two episodes of Jane the Virgin, but I watch both Reign and HOD regularly and it doesn't really bother me. I can actually see why the reviewers like Jane the Virgin, even if I haven't had time to watch it. Also, think that Jane the VIrgin is more tied with the 100 (which usually gets adjusted down to 0.5 and has a much better lead-in)

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  151. Although I think that is indeed a very important factor, I think people often forget that POI finished Season 2 on a very weak note, hitting a string of three consecutive 2.4s (season average was a 2.9, so this was way below average). The move to Tuesday certainly accelerated this but I doubt the show would have come back to the consistent 3.0 level in the following fall even if it had remained where it was.

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  152. So 19th most viewed post-SB episode since 1988 and the 3rd lowest demo in that time. Very disappointing.

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  153. If there was a tiny possibility I gave JTV a chance, Berman's annoying comments would totally destroy it.

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  154. If Penguin was called Alejandro Molinera, he would still be a great character. The story is good, yet it does not use the Batman property at all.


    The Batman trademark just makes the show worst. Because they "must" show Selina and Bruce because of who they become. It needs to prove itself by mixing characters that appear at the most random moments and give nothing to the show but the "look who's here! It's the girl that will become Catwoman! We're a Batman show!".


    A show like Arrow would use the property better... Oliver Queen could have fought the real Scarecrow in 3x01 instead of the fake one. They could have used Harley Quinn in the Suicide Squad instead of Cupid. Imagine Oliver Queen fighting Dr. Hugo Strange as a Big Bad, a villain that challenge him on a mental level!


    Gotham, while i enjoy it, it's worthless as a comicbook show... And i think it will keep on dropping because for people who likes Batman, the show is a regular cop show(Arrow is more Batman-esque than Gotham); and for people who likes cop shows they think of it as a comicbook show, leaving it for shows like CSI and the likes.

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  155. Person of Interest's final three episodes in S1: 2.5-2.6-2.5


    I don't think the string of consecutive 2.4's would have necessarily meant the show wouldn't return to above a consistent 3.0 level. But we will never know.

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  156. As a hit series,cause by CW standards ratings wise is is.But if Czw were to promote Dixie or Reign as " hit show" with the same demo as Jane,people would laugh or complain or both.

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  157. I say Jane is tied with Reign,HoD cause they all three tend to get 0.4-0.5 consistently with a couple times above or below that 'but mostly what get is 0.4-05 while The 100 gets 0.5 mainly & Jane is closer to Reign,Dixie in total viewrers in the low 1milion while The 100 is more mid to high 1million...I guess CW could mean " hit with critics/reviewers" but still..I completely get them touting Flash w

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  158. My guess is that if they should be getting better ratings they would be getting those ratings. Not everyone enjoys the same thing. This same comment could be said about every last show slisted on every last website. They get what they earn, i do not think any blog determines it otherwise.

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  159. Yes exactly a one year old show should not be doing a ten year olds numbers ,but since demo numbers are the only thing that apparently counts Gotham is way ahead of Bones. Gotham usually does demo numbers in the 2 range and Bones with their last one only did a 1.3. There is always the chance that Gotham will adjust up

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  160. I'm puzzled that Gotham can't stop falling. Normally that happens when a show is weak creatively, but it's been pretty great.

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  161. But that isn't always like that. He even creared once a New Slot for jtv so he didn't need to put it to the losers.

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  162. What was the new slot called?

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  163. Your're right, it had more 0.4 scores in the beginning. I guess I was looking more at the past few weeks where they've had the same ratings. They're both listed as having an average demo score of 0.53 for the entire season whereas HOD and Reign are 0.40 and 0.42 respectively. Another chart has the JTV average as 0.48 instead of 0.53. I don't know why the numbers are different, but it still puts its rating closer to the 100 and the other 2 shows

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  164. Liked the episode. Even though I need more Daniel Gillies

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  165. That alternative TV table has its average demo score as 0.53 which ties it with The 100. And it's also tied with The 100 on the Cancellation prediction chart. The averages for HOD and Reign are listed as 0.40 and 0.42. I don't understand why you'd say it's tied with Reign and HOD.

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  166. Does anyone know 2Broke Girls starts syndication on TBS?

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  167. Something like
    "Should be a winner/should have larger audience". Was around Episode 2or 3

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  168. LOL. That's a very specific category!

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  169. I know xp only for his "baby"

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