Excellent episode, but for all the sad reasons! A 5 season legacy ended tonight (No Spoilers).........thanks for the memories! BECAUSE DIARIES ARE 4 READING TONIGHT, I am Nobody!!!
It was a great episode so sad that Liz died again why is Enzo still alive when Bonnie still stuck in that prison world Caroline and Stefan kiss was sweet I like them as friends though maybe I'm bias because I just don't like friends or siblings getting involved with the same people
There was more Damon/Liz stuff in this episode than in the past three seasons combined, which was absolutely fantastic. Loved it. So, because of that, I gave the episode an "awful." (Still no Bonnie)
I'm annoyed Damon (Caroline's rapist) spent the last day with Liz instead of Caroline (who was too busy kissing Stefan).
I don't think Jeremy will be a good vampire hunter - he couldn't even take Enzo in this episode. Enzo continues to be an annoyance and I wish Jeremy had manged to kill him.
Fantastic episode, in my opinion, one of the top 10 episodes ever on this show, tvd is growing up, maturing, and season 6 has definitely surpassed season 4 and 5. Great return to form!
I always liked the Damon/Liz friendship. Losing Liz was sad, but I really feel the show dragged this out way too long. The same with Jeremy's leaving. OMG, they made such a big deal out of it. I really could care less that he's leaving. He was barely doing anything on the show all season. The Caroline/Stefan thing, it's okay, but I don't know if I care too much about it. And OMG, the Enzo stuff, please just get rid of him, Matt, and this new Salvatore. I could care less. Boring. So, yeah, it was a filler ep. I feel like this show is so played out. Kai and Bonnie are all that can liven it up, otherwise, I think the whole show should be buried already.
this whole season has been a filler, and maybe don't thrown around the term rapist, and all it implies, so cavalierly. no where in the series is it even implied that he raped Carolina. just because he compelled her to forget he was a Vampire does not mean he did so to sleep with her. do you think a character like Carolina would be friendly much less amicable with someone who had?
he didnt rape her in season 1, he merely made her accept that he was a vampire and not be afraid of him, so that he could have a human blood bag to feed off of without leaving a body count.
Shout out to Shannon,:)))))))))) I told you this week. I had my pretzels ready and threw 1/2 the nowl at the T.V.,, but Steroline wouldn't listen. They looked so uncomfortable, miss matched:(((((:lol.
Damon did a wonderful job tonight. I never thought of him viewing Liz as his a mom type for him. That was very sweet.
I knew Jeremy wasn't going anywhere. He will kill Enzo...When,, is the operative word. I Can't stand . him. Quick ?,, How do you get a car to go Vamp Speed? Enzo's Car did. lolol
Mattie & Jeremy again? Please,, Will Damon, someone,, just kill Enzo already,, again!! RIP,, Elizabeth Forbes. You were an Awesome Mystic Falls Sheriff. Your character, is really going to be missed on the TVD Program.
Hi Twin,,As usual,, you came through for me,, again. I can always count on you. .Elu 2.:))
You know what I found strange?
All the cold cases sheriff Forbes & Damon went threw,, and not one of them was about Uncle Zack, Sarah's mom and all the guests at that party,, when Damon supposedly ran amok and killed almost everyone there.. Did I miss something?
I thought this was a very good episode. The Damon/Liz moments were great. Loved the interactions between Elena and Jeremy (there really hasn't been much of that lately), and of course the Caroline/Stefan moments were great. I really like the way that relationship has developed. Really sad to see Liz go. The only bad parts: Enzo kidnaps Jeremy and threatens his life and when Elena asks him about it, he casually mentions Enzo and dismisses it and Elena doesn't ask him anything else. I don't know what's more annoying...Enzo's continued presence in this show, the fact that he gets more screentime than Bonnie, or the fact that none of the other characters are trying to do anything about him. He needs to be killed off now.
HahaHahahaha!! Thank you very much!!! I almost choked on my chocolate bar. LOL true story. I won't calm down til possibly Saturday. I'm actually rewatching their scenes right now. And will do so, for the rest of the night.
Idt Damon thought of her as a "mother figure" ever. That was just his best friend. But I do however feel that in her final moments, he definitely thought of his own mother. I'm glad he was there with her. It made me think of the time he stayed with Alaric in his final moments. Liz did love Damon, in her own twisted way, just like Alaric, so the fact that she was really comforted by him being there. Was just really nice. At least for me. And Caroline still got to say goodbye. So I enjoyed everything between the three of them.
Enzo's car did go vamp speed didn't it?? Ughh. I hate him so much.
Here here!!! In that moment when Enzo came in. I'm like, wtf?? Why does the Gilbert moment have to be ruined with his stupid face???!!! Can't this kid leave in peace??? GO AWAY!!!
hahahaha,, I think of you every time those two (Steroline) are together. Stefan had to keep a hold of the back of her neck to bring her in for a kiss. He was afraid she would run away, yelling for help. lololololol.
I guess if Elena can get high,, and eat French Fries covered it ketchup,, like humans,, then the cars that are owned by Vampires become "Cravamps" or just plain Cramps!!!! lmbo,, what are you eating or drinking now? Did it come out your nose??
Well that's childish. What does making myself feel better have to do with it? If you're going to respond to me with the intellectual equivalent of "I know you are but what am I" then don't waste my time. I only have so much energy every day and people who act like that don't deserve any of it.
"This just in. Shannon cannot come to SpoilerTV right now. She's gone into sudden cardiac arrest combined with an severe aneurysm, and also showing signs of pure insanity. The reaction to tonight's episode, has lead to the impossible, unlike anything we've ever seen before. We are trying our best to get her into stable condition. Please leave messages. As I am hearing that her current state may well indeed take several days to recover. Please stand by for further notice. Thank You. Judy, back to you."
"Thanks Paul...stand tuned for the weekly weather updates. We'll be back, right after this."
You mien like now? lololol Abnormal for a Vampire. I thought for sure she would end up with cotton Mouth and require some liquid. The "Red" kind,, that flows warm through Human Veins,, oh wait,, they like theres cold and out of the freezer like,,,,, Mr. Kool Freeze Pop's. lmbo
See what Jules has done with her "eccentric story telling"! It's all your fault Jules..............I wonder if Shannon has one of those "Medical Donation Accounts"? Nobody 4 NOW!!!
*^Fangirlmode* OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THEY KISSED *fangirlmodeover* they look pretty cute together. Caroline has gone from men to men. I hope Stefan is finally the one for her. Enzo's storyline is making no sense whatsoever. I dont know what he si still doing there. Alaric's dead, Katherine and this one had me crying. They were beautifully done. Awesome episode.
That did run through my mind,, but there were so many bodies. How could That many people go missing,, and not have Family and friends inquiring as to there where bouts. The Boy's are good,, but there not that good. lolol Thanks,, Better Twin:))
I said it was Jules' favorite "plot - twist"...........I never said it worked every time, let alone made sense, Better Twin! 4 WTPA4EVER, I am Nobody!!!
The Paramedics are on call if you Oxygen or a paper Bag,, lolol If you need shock Treatment to overcome the erratic heart palpitations,, there ready!! . Your Bio -Rythems may need to be re-aligned.!!! lmbo
So this is what we had to sacrifice for fu*king steroline? Really? There was no other way than to force it this hard? WOW. And Enzo "serves absolutely no purpose in anything that has to do with actual writing" is still alive for some unknown reason? Damn, I don't normally care a whit about shipping, couples, etc. Could care less. But when writing gets sacrificed to this point only to please a fanbase? Terrible. And no, I don't ship Delena, Stelena, qelena, 8elena, or ?elena.
I will grant the Damon/Liz scenes were very well done, just 2 old comrades at the end, making jokes and keeping it like a true friendship is. RIP Liz, you got thrown out for no good reason.
no that is not what it was. that was me saying read into whatever you want, you see it how you want, enjoy it how you want.
and since you asked (because it not painfully obvious) what does "making myself feel better have to do with it?" I'm not talking about your fucking life or physical state, its an expression. meaning you have clearly ascribed and have preconceived notions about that character/relationship (am I'm sure a lot else on this shitty show) and thus having someone "agree" with you "makes you feel better" because its justify your opinion/ how you see things.
the fact that you got offended/annoyed by that simple statement says more about you then me. but thanks for using your "limited energy" to tell me how precious your "limited energy" is and how you can't me bothered to waste it when in fact the only person who is wasting it is you.
anyways enjoy your energy limited life for you have given me great joys all the same.
Positive: +Damon and Liz scenes. Just so simply amazing. They saved the episode for me. I enjoyed every moment of them on screen. It's a shame we didn't explore their friendship like this in the past seasons. I realized I love their dynamic just when we were about to lose one half of their duo. + The final moments. I admit. I shed tears. I DON't SHED TREARS while watching TV shows. So I give them that.
Not what I was expecting and a seemingly odd choice by the writers I think. When Liz almost died the first time, it was all about Elena, this time it was about Damon. I liked the scenes between them (Liz & Damon) but I think I would have appreciated them a bit more, if they hadn't come at the expense of even a small amount of closure for her and Caroline. I've been told this needed to happen though, so that we'll believe what happens to Caroline next. *shrug*
Enzo continues to be the worst, but no Tyler or Liz though so hooray for that. Really, really, missing Bonnie and Kai.
I really don't think that's why she died. All plots are intertwined and that's just how good stories are written. I'm guessing that if Caroline and Stefan got together under a different circumstance, the same people would find a different reason to complain about it.
Oh yeah.. definitely kill him before he becomes even more annoying than he is. And I'm not seeing where this plan is going unless he plans to ingratiate himself with Sarah (sure the vamp moment scared her but he "saved" Matt) and then turn her into a vampire.
How did Zach even exist, though? At a loss how this new girl is even around. Damon and Stefan didn't have siblings or kids... Are they descendants of their cousins?
I know i promised some ppl here to continue our previous thread discussion. But I need some time to recover from this tear-jerker episode !!!! I'll be back with a review, a long one at that when I can process this episode without breaking down and becoming a HOT MESS ! !
The writers are destroying Enzo's character. He don't fit in the lover affair they have this show headed to. Klaus already asked to work with him in a cross over. He'll be perfect on the Originals.
Pretty powerful episode. Caroline-Stefan~Candice absolutely killed itthis episode,i was in tears when she broke down at the end.Although i'mstruggling to come to terms with the idea of steroline as a couple,the moments between them in the cabin were wonderfully shot and edited.The background score was exceptional.I also loved how stefan helped her to be able to say final goodbye to her mom-that was beautiful. Damon-Liz~For a moment,i thought the accident of elena's parents was not a mere accident & was kinda bummed when they confirmed it finally after years of speculation,i still loved the idea why they brought this topic in this episode.Liz wanted to find a reson so badly so that her own death would make somewhat sense to her.Unfortunately life is harsh & doesn't work that way.All the moments between liz and damon were pure gold.The scene where she said-I'm exceptionally ordinary & i'm okay with that.caroline is anything but-tears were flowing.Powerful moment,well done writers! Jeremy~I'll kinda miss him but his purpose on this show has been nil since the hunter track concluded in season 4.I loved elena & jer's bonding moments- i kinda liked elena in those moments,that's a win right there!The end twist is very controversial like katherine's exit but i never bought into the idea of him being happy in a art school.We never saw him do anything remotely related to art since season 1,so him being a vampire hunter makes his arc more logical & rational.I didn't like that alaric was actively encouraging his decision but as he said he is an adult and he respected his decision.Alaric is in for deep trouble once this secret slips out and it will inevitably.I hope we get to see him once more when bonnie finally comes back-i need their goodbye to move on from him completely. Enzo-sarah-matt~I have no idea where this storyline is heading and it's purpose in this show in the first place.His revenge plan stopped making sense a long time ago.I really hope by the end of the season,his storyline leads to some other interesting arc,otherwise this whole arc is pointless.I feel really sorry for Michael malarkey.No series regular should be burdened with this kind of crap storyline TBH! I didn't even miss kai/bonnie this episode.I liked that stefan let tyler know sheriff's condition or caroline acknowledging the fact she should've been with her instead of having cabin romance(or whatever they were trying to do).Good continuity there writers! Next week seems very tragic.I can't wait to hear damon's eulogy!
Ok i have managed to somehow pul myself together. SO here is my review. (its gonna be super long)
I think this was THE MOST EMOTIONAL EPISODE IN TVD HISTORY. I mean I knew watching Sheriff Forbes breathe her last would be sad, but my God, TVD Writers, you have really outdone yourselves this time ! What a wrecking episode this was ! ! To get into specifics:
JEREMY: i absolutely loved the brother sister moments that Jer and Elena shared. It thought it was long overdue. But i do think it was time for Jeremy as a character to leave the show. I only wish he would have really just left for art school and had what could be closest thing to a normal happy life as far as Vampire Diaries and MF was concerned. The whole twist of him going to be a vampire hunter when he couldn't even save himself from ONE vampire (enzo), is just baffling to me. I mean, his sister is a vampire for crying out loud, you would think he would be a little more sympathetic. And Alaric actually encouraging him? I donno, I din't really like it. I like twists as much as the next person, but i feel this was overkill.
ENZO: 2 words - KILL HIM. This dude just wasted a lot of screen time today. I would have rather have watched delena or liz-damon or steroline rather than this english baffoon act out his retarded plan.
MATT: What are you doing Matty Blue Eyes ?? I think its time you called one of your vampire buddies for help, coz this is getting way out of line and you are in way too deep to fish yourself out.
DAMON & LIZ: omg, LIZ's goodbye scene where she says I did everything right... OMG i did not see that coming.. I was not ready for one of the the most emotional moments in TVD history. When she says 'I'm exceptionally ordinary ... I'm ok with that, caroline is anything but. she was meant to be extraordinary and she needs to know how proud I am of her".. EPIC EPIC ACTING. McIntyer really brought her A game... i think this is basically why Damon comforts Caroline next episode. Coz he knows thats what Liz would have wanted. . . I think this is a foundation for Damon and Caroline to maybe become friends, coz they never really were 'friends'....
STEROLINE: Where do I begin? I think that kiss will go down as the most romantic kiss TVD has ever given us. The way Stefan tucked her hair behind her ear . He wanted her to look at him when he admitted that hearing her say that she hated him was the worst thing. Stefan's expression when she said - we both know i never hated you.. that was the moment he finally let his guard down and gave in to the rush of emotion he was feeling for Caroline. And that kiss...The way he inched towards her, like theres no way he could resist kissing her at that moment, the first kiss - slow and unsure and then in perfect symphony they both kiss with more fervor, his hand framing her face, not wanting to let go PERFECTION ! I liked that after the kiss, throughout their talk his hand never left her face, he dint wanna let go. I love how he looked at her after the kiss was done - with trepidation, as though saying - pls tell me you felt the same way i did; pls don't pull away. the fact that they were both speechless and in awe of the raw emotion that they experienced... omg.. I died a million deaths watching this ! !
CAROLINE & LIZ'S DEATH I have to say that one reason I absolutely love Caroline's character is because, even though she is the judgy one, there is no one she judges more harshly than herself. She is her own worst critic and she does not give herself a break. When she said -- but I am her daughter i should have been here..broke my heart. I was so relieved when Stefan helped her say goodbye through Liz's memory. The smile on Liz's face just before she died as she relived that memory. it was beautiful. And when it was time to let go. . .The episode ended with damon turning off the machine, but the tears continued to flow.
Agree with you 100% Couldn't have asked for anything more !! Paul and Candice NAILED IT. Somebody give CANDICE A FREAKING AWARD FOR THIS EPISODE COZ IT WAS GOLDEN !
Wait, so you're saying there's not such thing as rape if someone is interested in the other person? So, say there was a couple and one forced themselves onto the other and had sex with them even though the other didn't want it. By your logic, that's not rape cos hey, they're in a relationship so its fine. RIGHT?
Can i also say ? This was Candice Accola's finest moment. Just when I thought she couldn't add more layers to 'Caroline'... BAM, her performance just blew me away. The way her voice was small and faltering, her expression when they kissed..phew..she just took this character to a whole new level.. ! ! ! Somebody needs to give her an award !
Caroline and Stefan is just weird and out of the place ! Since when someone think abot kissing and make out when your mother is going to die ???!!!!! When elena lost Jeremy , she had a realistic reaction but the way the writter did things with Caro don't make sence...
They were having a moment. Deal with it. Coz people are not one dimensional beings to just feel one emotion all the time. We are capable of feeling multiple, even conflicting emotions and thats what this is about.
The conversation started about death, then after he took her hand, she confronted him with what she overheard her mom say to him. At that moment there was no way he was going to just let her believe that he was there coz her mom asked him to, because it wasn't true. You must remember that after she said she hated him, they never officially got over that road block, she never took it back and he never had the chance to talk to her about it with everything going on. So when she asked him why he was here, he obviously had to address the issue, because it was clearly bothering him. He never said it out loud before coz maybe at first he was scared she would say she hated him again and later coz there really wasn't room for his emotional drama. SO he kept it buried...till he couldn't anymore. So he said it. He said it was the worst thing he had heard in a long time. And when she replied that she never really hated him...well.. the Stefan Salvatore Emotional Control walls came crashing down. . .. it was just the most natural thing in the world and if you can't see that,.then your blind.
No, please, explain what you meant, because the only thing I understood was you saying how rape isn't rape because she was into him. So please, the floor is all yours. Explain away...
No please explain to where I said rape isn't rape? you are making wild assumptions based on a quick reply to a large conversation but hey whatever, so long as you get to stoke a fire an accuse someone. I was in fact referring to her later friendship with Damon and the fact that she was attracted to him PRIOR to the bullshit that went on between them. I am not saying that negates anything or that anything happened or not.
also, knowing someone personally who has been the victim of rape, and been affected by it, it makes me sick to see people use it as a ploy in a TV show or a shitty comments thread. you have your issues, clearly, but don't take them out on me or blanket accuse me of saying things I never did.
Also can i say that Stefan is not turned off by Caroline's control freakiness...in fact it amuses him almost... its like he's accepted her heart and soul, flaws and all.. so much so that the flaws that stick out to the rest of the world are not considered 'flaws' by him. Its so cute !!! <3
The kiss between Stefan and Caroline was one of the most beautiful that I ever saw on TV. Seriously, it was perfect: the acting, the music, the light, the landscape.... It was so romantic, beautiful, adorable, perfect, sweet, kind... I don't think it was forced at all. Paul Wesley and Candice Accola have an amazing chemistry. It will be good to see Stefan be himself in a relationship. He was always worried with Elena, which was so annoying. And then, Liz died. I cried during the last 15 minutes. Brilliant acting from Candice Accola and Marguerite MacIntyre. I will miss Liz for sure. And Bye bye Jeremy. I was not sad about that. But about Enzo, just have a life! Get over it. I can't believe that Matt is helping him.
So all the guessing and speculation and JP was true to her word - the Gilbert Accident was just that an accident. However, it was still fun reading all the different theories - TVD should use some of them for future shows
Wow - a sweet innocent kiss on the front porch of your parents cabin and you consider that "making out"? I would recommend staying away from 50 shades of grey.
It is forever hard to tell with the SOD's ,, b/c they fib through there Yellow Teeth. lol So they told the truth 1 xm in 6 seasons,, Well,,whooptidoo,,Let's break out the party hats and streamers,and have a good old fashioned shindig.
So,, you enjoyed reading the comments huh? What if I said that these two people Couldn't write a descent SL if someone put the pen's in their hands and guided them on a step by step Journey into the world of "Story Telling" and believable story telling at that. Not this garbage with a New ship they plan on launching,, who cares??? Liz is dying,, and she is worried about talking with Damon,, granted I would like to talk to both boy's and then smack them up side their head!! Damon for being an Azz and Stefan,, b/c he has been a BADDDD boy,, but everyone will find out soon enough. No Spoilers, nope can't conjole it out of me,, well maybe if you sk nicely. lololol Hi Gwenie:)))
Huh,, I had Stefan holding onto the back of Caro's neck so she wouldn't go running screaming for help. There was no where for her to go. She had to stand there and accept it. I'm going to pay fro this when Shannon reads it. (She is MIA in happiness until tomorrow.:)) So,, anyway,, as long as I'm in it,, the setting was all wrong,, the sun in front of them made them a huge blur,, Caro didn't look relaxed. Not as energetic as she gets when around Nicklaus. He really gets her steamed. Oh,, I am going to pay for that comment. rolf.
So what did you think of a Vamp Speed Car driven by a whacked out lunatic,, hitting Our Matt? Why is Enzo important again? I heard a rumor that J.M. requested Enzo's character on T.O. He seems to think Enzo might fit in better over there. What do you think of that?
I agree...I was almost certain that this was the case she was going to show Damon. Especially since Sheriff Forbes was in one of the flashback scenes with Sarah's mom and uncle Zack. I guess that would have completely changed the dynamics between her and Damon right before her death and the writers didn't want to go there. They prefer that people forget all the bad things that Damon did.
Ok - random ??? If Matty Blue Eyes had actually died after Enzo hit him with the car and he obviously had on the Gilbert ring - where would he have gone? Would he be dead-dead or are they planning on introducing yet another world where characters can still come back to life?
Unfortunately,, Mattie would have died. The Gilbert ring no longer has its power. It is just a pretty antique ring now,, at least that is what we are led to believe.
Hey Lynne to be heard from you - To be honest for great writing in drama series I watch Scandal, for great comedy Big Bang for Sci-fi fantasy, escape from reality and show best paired with a good glass of red wine, I might add, I watch TVD -.
And, Hell Yes, if I were dying I can't think of a better way to kick the bucket then having a HOT immortal stud at my bedside - who wouldn't. Yes, this show has been predictable, and talk about soap opera drama, yes from the beginning - Stefan writing in his journal about his tormented life - can't get more sappy, soap opera then that - I would just like to suggest everyone just enjoy the ride.
Well Damon did compel her (Liz) to leave the party,, and she hadn't recalled since of ever being there. I have been taking this show with a grain of salt ever since episode 4 of S4. Too many plot holes, they have never been filled in or explained. The ONE thing that did accur to me,, is that Sheriff forbes said Dr. Gilbert never hit his breaks before they went off the bridge. Also how nonchalant she was about Damon's killing all those people and not 1 word of reprimand. The scene with Caro and her mom,, you mien they couldn't come up with her mom telling her how much she loves her and how proud she is of her. But a Bicycle to let her know she has let her go to grow? I'm sorry,, if there are those who thought that scene was sweet,, but as a mom myself,, that was beyond lame. Obviously whom ever wrote that scene is not a parent imo.
Hi,, I am,, I am enjoying the ride of nit picking. lolol Big Bang huh,, hillarious. I get a pretty good laugh out of both shows,, T.O. & TVD. How could you not,, We have Stefan with his flawless skin (Spa Treatments:)) Damon with snarky comments and Blue Eyes. And the lies that he tells are brilliant. What's not to laugh about. With my glass of wine.
I was also expecting a real goodbye between Caroline and her Mom when she tapped into her thoughts (like what Damon did with Rose). But I have to admit that the flashback scene with the bicycle made me tear up, which is a rare thing for The Vampire Diaries to achieve (and there have been many deaths on this show!). Maybe I'm seeing it from the perspective of a daughter rather than a mother, but I didn't find it lame at all. To me, that entire scene in the hospital room was executed beautifully by everyone.
I apologize for the lame,, it wasn't lame,, I just really wanted a mushy scene for lack of a better word. The time spent between the two in her Liz's last days,, would/should have been a little more realistically done. Too much Hodge-podge interference. I love the Salvatore boys,, but was not into Damon giving the Eulogy,, But that was the only way the writers could think of to introduce Their Mother coming into the picture.
I disagree with the way new Sl are introduced to the show. IMO it is done in a tacky way. I understand what they are trying to do, but I disagree with the approach.
No worries, you don't have to apologize for having a different perspective! I can completely understand some people wanting more of a mushy goodbye mother/daughter scene. I've never been a big fan of the long tearful goodbye scenes, so I actually liked the way that the writers incorporated Liz' illness into all the various different plots. For starters, it gave her tons of screentime in her final days (which would have been difficult to do otherwise) and it also allowed her to have a final moment with practically every major cast member. I guess they could have had tons of tearful goodbye scenes between Liz and various characters, but there's only so much screen time one can allocalte to that. Also, having Liz interact with all of the various characters under "normal" circumstances that didn't revolve around her illness, just helped to remind me of how awesome her character really was. In some ways, I think that it was probably the best way to serve her memory.
You have to love The Vampire Diaries. Of all the shows I watch, it's the one where viewers are least likely to agree on anything! LOL
I agree about the long tearful goodbye scenes,, it is just that Liz & Caro,, have/had a very tight relationship,, even through all the crazy super natural happenings in town and to her and her family. I mien, Geez,, she even allowed Klaus in her house to heal Caro. This is/was a great character, which unfortunately,, left more more holes with her leaving the show. But I have a feeling that is the plan. lolol,, You are correct there. The reason for these threads is to share opinions even if everyone see's things from a different angle,, doesn't mien they are wrong,, but should add spice to the discussion. Many times you will find someone else s perspective to be totally different then your own,, or another poster can freak you out and say HEY,, I like that idea. And your system immediately go's into SHOCK. lolol
i guess i'm the only one on planet earth who hates the idea of stefan and caroline together....i just really hate them two together...I really wanted them to put enzo and her together...and it sucked how now they have made enzo so annoying i wish stefan or someone would snatch his heart out...gosh he gets on my nerves...anyway, i thought the moment with caroline remembering a childhood moment was soo cute...a real tear jerker...probably the most authenticate part of the episode...really sweet...i hate that they wrote jeremey out before bonnie returned...they deserved to have a proper goodbye...I'm still waiting on the off chance that bonnie and damon will have more scenes together but since this show is basically the delena diaries ...i doubt that will happen...over all the episode wont bad at all..its just enzo is annoying and i really wanted stefan and caroline to REMAIN JUST FRIENDS.
i will track u down and kill u.. before shannon kills u .. LOL (just joking, don't report me, I'm not a serial killer) !!!!
Ok time to defend my ship:
that kiss will go down as the most well executed, moving, beautiful, romantic moment in TVD history. The lighting according to me was perfect. The mood was perfect. It just doesn't get more picture perfect than this.
Caroline's hesitation was right on. He has snubbed her twice so far. And his out of the blue revelation that hearing her say she hated him was the worst thing, the way he said it, like his heart was breaking... I'm sure that was a lot to take in for her. All along she was convinced that he was here only coz he promised her mom; and here he is baring his soul to her and being vulnerable. it was unexpected. And his reaction to her saying - we both know i never really hated u -- I think it was Paul Wesleys better performances to date. it was like, "i don't know what i would have done if you had told me otherwise. All this while I've ben dying inside, you just set me free" He inched fwd - that took her by surprise. Till he finally kissed her, she dint want to believe that he would. She dint want to get hurt again. Thats very much understandable. N when he did kiss her, it was soft and he paused for her to kiss him back, and she did, and it was passionate i felt. It wasn't rip your clothes and hv sex passionate, it was passionate for someone who wasn't expecting this at all, someone who almost can't believe this is happening. someone who is going through a lot of emotions. It was beautiful. And the way they looked at each other when it was done..... took my breath away.
This episode was really good. It was very sad to see Liz dying and I really liked her scenes with Damon. Heartbreaking to see Caroline arriving to the hospital too late.
lolololol Yeah,, I have been in hiding. lmbo,, Shannon should be out of her comatose Steroline state by now. I will admit,, Stefan was being romantic,, maybe the most I have ever seen him,, But,, it was Caro,, that appeared to be unsure,, uncomfortable,, so I decided to have some fun with it. I am so surprised Gwen didn't jump in,, but she is very familiar with my Humor as is Shannon,, they know that sometimes I can't let a good "Tease" go by. lolol
Yesterday was Valentines Day,, and unfortunately,, there was no ripping off clothes and having sex,,, so,, all that lovey-dovey stuff goes right over my 5"2 head. lmbo
Well,, it is a good thing we didn't need to call the Paramedics for you.:))
I'm glad you enjoyed the scene and show. Being a Klaroline Die hard fan,, it was rough for me:))
Wow - that recap was amazing!!! I must have watched it at least 10X Just one additional comment - if I may - when Car. says "one of us should probably say something" and Stef. says "go for it" & Car. says "not that" - I just loved that last little exchange - So much for them to process in that moment - I am sure Caroline's mind was all over the place and I love how Stefan was certain about his actions once he finally decided to "go for it". Caroline had been so focused on Liz's death that this small moment of joy and hope for the future during the saddest moment of her life was so bittersweet.
Soooo are you digging Steroline? Common you have to admit they are kinda cute? Klaus is too busy kicking butt in the bayou to care what Car. is doing in MF - I say give Klaus about 50 years and I am sure he will be itching to check in on Caroline.
Hahah Hi,, Yeah 50 years sounds about right,, but to a Hybrid and Vampire,, they go by pretty quick. It's going to take me some time to get used to the Idea. I love both characters,, just never put them together as a couple. Would be like Stefan and Lexi dating. Ewe,,:))
Change of subject,, last night I had a few people over for Seafood paella and Margareta's,, so I'm cleaning up after everyone left and sat down to the computer,, answered Maria's post,, and had the wildest Idea pop into my head. I couldn't help it,, I busted out laughing,, so I didn't think I should post it here, so I went to E.W. and posted.
I really missed Kai & Bonnie this episode. Especially,, Kai when he is checking out Jeremy. lolol Soooo,, now that Jeremy is off to God knows where,, what if Kai starts checking out Damon? Or try's to hit on Damon? What would Damon do? lmbo
I received 1 response,, saying that would be a great action scene. Some people have no sense of humor..lol
What do you think of that idea? I think it's hysterical!!
Someone in their Family (I can't remember the Name) had an illegitimate child and since Stefan killed everyone else in their family the family name had to go somewhere. It was explained when Rebekah was looking for more white oak back in s3
Any time sugar,, you can always count on me for support and causing trouble. Hope you had a wonderful 4 days. The Hospital didn't call and say my adopted one has bitten the dust,, So all is serene. Ummm. lmao
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I'm pretty sure Stefan and Caroline just had the most romantic kiss this show has ever had.
ReplyDeleteExcellent episode, but for all the sad reasons! A 5 season legacy ended tonight (No Spoilers).........thanks for the memories! BECAUSE DIARIES ARE 4 READING TONIGHT, I am Nobody!!!
ReplyDeleteAll in tears. Liz poor, poor Caroline. Jeremy Goodbye! awesome
ReplyDeleteIt was a great episode so sad that Liz died again why is Enzo still alive when Bonnie still stuck in that prison world Caroline and Stefan kiss was sweet I like them as friends though maybe I'm bias because I just don't like friends or siblings getting involved with the same people
ReplyDeleteIve read better fan fiction than all the steroline scenes. I mean get the phone out of my pocket or i dont know maybe hold these boxes for me
ReplyDeleteThere was more Damon/Liz stuff in this episode than in the past three seasons combined, which was absolutely fantastic. Loved it. So, because of that, I gave the episode an "awful." (Still no Bonnie)
ReplyDeleteIt was such a filler episode.
ReplyDeleteI'm annoyed Damon (Caroline's rapist) spent the last day with Liz instead of Caroline (who was too busy kissing Stefan).
I don't think Jeremy will be a good vampire hunter - he couldn't even take Enzo in this episode. Enzo continues to be an annoyance and I wish Jeremy had manged to kill him.
Fantastic episode, in my opinion, one of the top 10 episodes ever on this show, tvd is growing up, maturing, and season 6 has definitely surpassed season 4 and 5. Great return to form!
ReplyDeleteI always liked the Damon/Liz friendship. Losing Liz was sad, but I really feel the show dragged this out way too long. The same with Jeremy's leaving. OMG, they made such a big deal out of it. I really could care less that he's leaving. He was barely doing anything on the show all season. The Caroline/Stefan thing, it's okay, but I don't know if I care too much about it. And OMG, the Enzo stuff, please just get rid of him, Matt, and this new Salvatore. I could care less. Boring. So, yeah, it was a filler ep. I feel like this show is so played out. Kai and Bonnie are all that can liven it up, otherwise, I think the whole show should be buried already.
ReplyDeletethis whole season has been a filler, and maybe don't thrown around the term rapist, and all it implies, so cavalierly. no where in the series is it even implied that he raped Carolina. just
ReplyDeletebecause he compelled her to forget he was a Vampire does not mean he did
so to sleep with her. do you think a character like Carolina would be
friendly much less amicable with someone who had?
Yessssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!
ReplyDeletehe didnt rape her in season 1, he merely made her accept that he was a vampire and not be afraid of him, so that he could have a human blood bag to feed off of without leaving a body count.
ReplyDeleteShout out to Shannon,:)))))))))) I told you this week. I had my pretzels ready and threw 1/2 the nowl at the T.V.,, but Steroline wouldn't listen. They looked so uncomfortable, miss matched:(((((:lol.
ReplyDeleteDamon did a wonderful job tonight. I never thought of him viewing Liz as his a mom type for him. That was very sweet.
I knew Jeremy wasn't going anywhere. He will kill Enzo...When,, is the operative word. I Can't stand .
him.
Quick ?,, How do you get a car to go Vamp Speed? Enzo's Car did. lolol
Mattie & Jeremy again? Please,, Will Damon, someone,, just kill Enzo already,, again!!
RIP,, Elizabeth Forbes. You were an Awesome Mystic Falls Sheriff. Your character, is really going to be missed on the TVD Program.
I applaud your rating and will join you...awful votes until Bonnie is reunited with her friends.
ReplyDeleteHi Twin,,As usual,, you came through for me,, again. I can always count on you. .Elu 2.:))
ReplyDeleteYou know what I found strange?
All the cold cases sheriff Forbes & Damon went threw,, and not one of them was about Uncle Zack, Sarah's mom and all the guests at that party,, when Damon supposedly ran amok and killed almost everyone there.. Did I miss something?
RIP sherrif forbes you died so stefan would consider banging caroline and so damon could make it all about him! kudos tvd writers brilliant work
ReplyDeleteI thought this was a very good episode. The Damon/Liz moments were great. Loved the interactions between Elena and Jeremy (there really hasn't been much of that lately), and of course the Caroline/Stefan moments were great. I really like the way that relationship has developed. Really sad to see Liz go.
ReplyDeleteThe only bad parts: Enzo kidnaps Jeremy and threatens his life and when Elena asks him about it, he casually mentions Enzo and dismisses it and Elena doesn't ask him anything else. I don't know what's more annoying...Enzo's continued presence in this show, the fact that he gets more screentime than Bonnie, or the fact that none of the other characters are trying to do anything about him. He needs to be killed off now.
HahaHahahaha!! Thank you very much!!! I almost choked on my chocolate bar. LOL true story. I won't calm down til possibly Saturday. I'm actually rewatching their scenes right now. And will do so, for the rest of the night.
ReplyDeleteIdt Damon thought of her as a "mother figure" ever. That was just his best friend. But I do however feel that in her final moments, he definitely thought of his own mother. I'm glad he was there with her. It made me think of the time he stayed with Alaric in his final moments. Liz did love Damon, in her own twisted way, just like Alaric, so the fact that she was really comforted by him being there. Was just really nice. At least for me. And Caroline still got to say goodbye. So I enjoyed everything between the three of them.
Enzo's car did go vamp speed didn't it?? Ughh. I hate him so much.
Massacre!! YES!!!!! That IS the word!
ReplyDeleteHere here!!! In that moment when Enzo came in. I'm like, wtf?? Why does the Gilbert moment have to be ruined with his stupid face???!!! Can't this kid leave in peace??? GO AWAY!!!
ReplyDeletehahahaha,, I think of you every time those two (Steroline) are together.
ReplyDeleteStefan had to keep a hold of the back of her neck to bring her in for a kiss. He was afraid she would run away, yelling for help. lololololol.
I guess if Elena can get high,, and eat French Fries covered it ketchup,, like humans,, then the cars that are owned by Vampires become "Cravamps" or just plain Cramps!!!! lmbo,, what are you eating or drinking now? Did it come out your nose??
Why is Enzo still alive? Seriously. Why?
ReplyDeleteshe was interested in him before that. but fine project whatever you want into it if that makes you feel better/justified.
ReplyDeletethis season is one giant directionless, plotless, pointless mess that can't end quick enough.
ReplyDeleteI love you're humor. I've got one of my own coming up right now. Check the page. (Which will be my last post).
ReplyDeleteElena's "high" and eating was nothing abnormal. You know that. Or do you? Lol that's not odd at all. It'd be odd if it didn't happen.
All I ate was a chocolate bar.
"Cover - up through compulsion".............Jules favorite plot twist for 5 seasons and counting, my Better Twin! Nobody 4 LATER!!!
ReplyDeleteWell that's childish. What does making myself feel better have to do with it? If you're going to respond to me with the intellectual equivalent of "I know you are but what am I" then don't waste my time. I only have so much energy every day and people who act like that don't deserve any of it.
ReplyDeleteBREAKING NEWS!!!
ReplyDelete"This just in. Shannon cannot come to SpoilerTV right now. She's gone into sudden cardiac arrest combined with an severe aneurysm, and also showing signs of pure insanity. The reaction to tonight's episode, has lead to the impossible, unlike anything we've ever seen before. We are trying our best to get her into stable condition. Please leave messages. As I am hearing that her current state may well indeed take several days to recover. Please stand by for further notice. Thank You. Judy, back to you."
"Thanks Paul...stand tuned for the weekly weather updates. We'll be back, right after this."
You mien like now? lololol
ReplyDeleteAbnormal for a Vampire. I thought for sure she would end up with cotton Mouth and require some liquid. The "Red" kind,, that flows warm through Human Veins,, oh wait,, they like theres cold and out of the freezer like,,,,, Mr. Kool Freeze Pop's. lmbo
Awwww.
ReplyDeleteIt's not abnormal. As we know the rules for vamperism in this show. And yes, now.
ReplyDeletemix with Margareta's and we have a party!!! X-D
ReplyDeleteSee what Jules has done with her "eccentric story telling"! It's all your fault Jules..............I wonder if Shannon has one of those "Medical Donation Accounts"? Nobody 4 NOW!!!
ReplyDelete*^Fangirlmode* OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THEY KISSED *fangirlmodeover*
ReplyDeletethey look pretty cute together. Caroline has gone from men to men. I hope Stefan is finally the one for her.
Enzo's storyline is making no sense whatsoever. I dont know what he si still doing there.
Alaric's dead, Katherine and this one had me crying. They were beautifully done.
Awesome episode.
That did run through my mind,, but there were so many bodies. How could That many people go missing,, and not have Family and friends inquiring as to there where bouts. The Boy's are good,, but there not that good. lolol
ReplyDeleteThanks,, Better Twin:))
I said it was Jules' favorite "plot - twist"...........I never said it worked every time, let alone made sense, Better Twin! 4 WTPA4EVER, I am Nobody!!!
ReplyDeleteLMBO,, You don't have too rub it in. I read you the first time.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised you didn't put that all in caps. I heard you all the way over here!!
BETTER TWIN!!!:)-
OMG LMBO You 2 are NUTS!!!!!!!! And, I luv u both!:))))
ReplyDeleteThe Paramedics are on call if you Oxygen or a paper Bag,, lolol If you need shock Treatment to overcome the erratic heart palpitations,, there ready!!
ReplyDelete. Your Bio -Rythems may need to be re-aligned.!!! lmbo
This is hilarious! Don't worry.... I felt the exact same way! I've already rewatched the Caroline and Stefan scenes. So freakin cute!
ReplyDeleteSo this is what we had to sacrifice for fu*king steroline? Really? There was no other way than to force it this hard? WOW. And Enzo "serves absolutely no purpose in anything that has to do with actual writing" is still alive for some unknown reason? Damn, I don't normally care a whit about shipping, couples, etc. Could care less. But when writing gets sacrificed to this point only to please a fanbase? Terrible. And no, I don't ship Delena, Stelena, qelena, 8elena, or ?elena.
ReplyDeleteI will grant the Damon/Liz scenes were very well done, just 2 old comrades at the end, making jokes and keeping it like a true friendship is. RIP Liz, you got thrown out for no good reason.
Terrible writing, I agree.
ReplyDeleteno that is not what it was. that was me saying read into whatever you want, you see it how you want, enjoy it how you want.
ReplyDeleteand since you asked (because it not painfully obvious) what does "making myself feel better have to do with it?" I'm not talking about your fucking life or physical state, its an expression. meaning you have clearly ascribed and have preconceived notions about that character/relationship (am I'm sure a lot else on this shitty show) and thus having someone "agree" with you "makes you feel better" because its justify your opinion/ how you see things.
the fact that you got offended/annoyed by that simple statement says more about you then me. but thanks for using your "limited energy" to tell me how precious your "limited energy" is and how you can't me bothered to waste it when in fact the only person who is wasting it is you.
anyways enjoy your energy limited life for you have given me great joys all the same.
Than Caroline herself is a rapist for doing it to Matt.
ReplyDeleteSomeone please KILL enzo...
ReplyDeleteR.I.P Liz.
ReplyDeletePositive:
+Damon and Liz scenes. Just so simply amazing. They saved the episode for me. I enjoyed every moment of them on screen. It's a shame we didn't explore their friendship like this in the past seasons. I realized I love their dynamic just when we were about to lose one half of their duo.
+ The final moments. I admit. I shed tears. I DON't SHED TREARS while watching TV shows. So I give them that.
Don't care:
- Uhm...Jeremy...Goodbye. Whatever...
Negative:
- The rest...-_-
LMAO, you're killing me.
ReplyDeleteNot what I was expecting and a seemingly odd choice by the writers I think. When Liz almost died the first time, it was all about Elena, this time it was about Damon. I liked the scenes between them (Liz & Damon) but I think I would have appreciated them a bit more, if they hadn't come at the expense of even a small amount of closure for her and Caroline. I've been told this needed to happen though, so that we'll believe what happens to Caroline next. *shrug*
ReplyDeleteEnzo continues to be the worst, but no Tyler or Liz though so hooray for that.
Really, really, missing Bonnie and Kai.
I really don't think that's why she died. All plots are intertwined and that's just how good stories are written. I'm guessing that if Caroline and Stefan got together under a different circumstance, the same people would find a different reason to complain about it.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah.. definitely kill him before he becomes even more annoying than he is. And I'm not seeing where this plan is going unless he plans to ingratiate himself with Sarah (sure the vamp moment scared her but he "saved" Matt) and then turn her into a vampire.
ReplyDeleteHow did Zach even exist, though? At a loss how this new girl is even around. Damon and Stefan didn't have siblings or kids... Are they descendants of their cousins?
ReplyDeleteomg! somebody kill Enzo already! he is so annoying...
ReplyDeleteWhen I heard they used Ella Henderson's song I was already sold. Great moment!
ReplyDeleteThe episode was.....okay. Made me sad once or twice.
ReplyDeleteMuch happened in this episode but one thing remained constant - Enzo continued to be a major dipshit and a waste of space and screen time.
I know i promised some ppl here to continue our previous thread discussion. But I need some time to recover from this tear-jerker episode !!!! I'll be back with a review, a long one at that when I can process this episode without breaking down and becoming a HOT MESS ! !
ReplyDeleteRIP LIZ !
The writers are destroying Enzo's character. He don't fit in the lover affair they have this show headed to. Klaus already asked to work with him in a cross over. He'll be perfect on the Originals.
ReplyDeleteblame the writers
ReplyDeletePretty powerful episode.
ReplyDeleteCaroline-Stefan~Candice absolutely killed itthis episode,i was in tears when she broke down at the end.Although i'mstruggling to come to terms with the idea of steroline as a couple,the
moments between them in the cabin were wonderfully shot and edited.The
background score was exceptional.I also loved how stefan helped her to
be able to say final goodbye to her mom-that was beautiful.
Damon-Liz~For a moment,i thought the accident of elena's parents was not a mere
accident & was kinda bummed when they confirmed it finally after
years of speculation,i still loved the idea why they brought this topic
in this episode.Liz wanted to find a reson so badly so that her own
death would make somewhat sense to her.Unfortunately life is harsh &
doesn't work that way.All the moments between liz and damon were pure
gold.The scene where she said-I'm exceptionally ordinary & i'm okay
with that.caroline is anything but-tears were flowing.Powerful
moment,well done writers!
Jeremy~I'll kinda miss him but his purpose on this show has been nil since the hunter track concluded in season 4.I
loved elena & jer's bonding moments- i kinda liked elena in those
moments,that's a win right there!The end twist is very controversial
like katherine's exit but i never bought into the idea of him being
happy in a art school.We never saw him do anything remotely related to
art since season 1,so him being a vampire hunter makes his arc more
logical & rational.I didn't like that alaric was actively
encouraging his decision but as he said he is an adult and he respected
his decision.Alaric is in for deep trouble once this secret slips out
and it will inevitably.I hope we get to see him once more when bonnie
finally comes back-i need their goodbye to move on from him completely.
Enzo-sarah-matt~I have no idea where this storyline is heading and it's purpose in this
show in the first place.His revenge plan stopped making sense a long
time ago.I really hope by the end of the season,his storyline leads
to some other interesting arc,otherwise this whole arc is pointless.I
feel really sorry for Michael malarkey.No series regular should be
burdened with this kind of crap storyline TBH!
I didn't even miss kai/bonnie this episode.I liked that stefan let tyler know sheriff's
condition or caroline acknowledging the fact she should've been with her
instead of having cabin romance(or whatever they were trying to
do).Good continuity there writers!
Next week seems very tragic.I can't wait to hear damon's eulogy!
Ok i have managed to somehow pul myself together. SO here is my review. (its gonna be super long)
ReplyDeleteI think this was THE MOST EMOTIONAL EPISODE IN TVD HISTORY. I mean I knew watching Sheriff Forbes breathe her last would be sad, but my God, TVD Writers, you have really outdone yourselves this time ! What a wrecking episode this was ! ! To get into specifics:
JEREMY:
i absolutely loved the brother sister moments that Jer and Elena shared. It thought it was long overdue. But i do think it was time for Jeremy as a character to leave the show. I only wish he would have really just left for art school and had what could be closest thing to a normal happy life as far as Vampire Diaries and MF was concerned. The whole twist of him going to be a vampire hunter when he couldn't even save himself from ONE vampire (enzo), is just baffling to me. I mean, his sister is a vampire for crying out loud, you would think he would be a little more sympathetic. And Alaric actually encouraging him? I donno, I din't really like it. I like twists as much as the next person, but i feel this was overkill.
ENZO:
2 words - KILL HIM. This dude just wasted a lot of screen time today. I would have rather have watched delena or liz-damon or steroline rather than this english baffoon act out his retarded plan.
MATT:
What are you doing Matty Blue Eyes ?? I think its time you called one of your vampire buddies for help, coz this is getting way out of line and you are in way too deep to fish yourself out.
DAMON & LIZ:
omg, LIZ's goodbye scene where she says I did everything right... OMG i did not see that coming.. I was not ready for one of the the most emotional moments in TVD history. When she says 'I'm exceptionally ordinary ... I'm ok with that, caroline is anything but. she was meant to be extraordinary and she needs to know how proud I am of her".. EPIC EPIC ACTING. McIntyer really brought her A game... i think this is basically why Damon comforts Caroline next episode. Coz he knows thats what Liz would have wanted. . . I think this is a foundation for Damon and Caroline to maybe become friends, coz they never really were 'friends'....
STEROLINE:
Where do I begin? I think that kiss will go down as the most romantic kiss TVD has ever given us. The way Stefan tucked her hair behind her ear . He wanted her to look at him when he admitted that hearing her say that she hated him was the worst thing. Stefan's expression when she said - we both know i never hated you.. that was the moment he finally let his guard down and gave in to the rush of emotion he was feeling for Caroline. And that kiss...The way he inched towards her, like theres no way he could resist kissing her at that moment, the first kiss - slow and unsure and then in perfect symphony they both kiss with more fervor, his hand framing her face, not wanting to let go PERFECTION ! I liked that after the kiss, throughout their talk his hand never left her face, he dint wanna let go. I love how he looked at her after the kiss was done - with trepidation, as though saying - pls tell me you felt the same way i did; pls don't pull away. the fact that they were both speechless and in awe of the raw emotion that they experienced... omg.. I died a million deaths watching this ! !
CAROLINE & LIZ'S DEATH
I have to say that one reason I absolutely love Caroline's character is because, even though she is the judgy one, there is no one she judges more harshly than herself. She is her own worst critic and she does not give herself a break. When she said -- but I am her daughter i should have been here..broke my heart. I was so relieved when Stefan helped her say goodbye through Liz's memory. The smile on Liz's face just before she died as she relived that memory. it was beautiful. And when it was time to let go. . .The episode ended with damon turning off the machine, but the tears continued to flow.
Agree with you 100% Couldn't have asked for anything more !! Paul and Candice NAILED IT. Somebody give CANDICE A FREAKING AWARD FOR THIS EPISODE COZ IT WAS GOLDEN !
ReplyDeleteGood, sad. They need a better villain, like Kai. Enzo is boring. Delena is still the best kiss, although these days not so much. In the past.
ReplyDeleteWait, so you're saying there's not such thing as rape if someone is interested in the other person? So, say there was a couple and one forced themselves onto the other and had sex with them even though the other didn't want it. By your logic, that's not rape cos hey, they're in a relationship so its fine. RIGHT?
ReplyDeleteI agree...they should send him over to The Originals. Relatively speaking, he might not seem as obnoxious there.
ReplyDeleteCan i also say ? This was Candice Accola's finest moment. Just when I thought she couldn't add more layers to 'Caroline'... BAM, her performance just blew me away. The way her voice was small and faltering, her expression when they kissed..phew..she just took this character to a whole new level.. ! ! ! Somebody needs to give her an award !
ReplyDeleteCaroline and Stefan is just weird and out of the place ! Since when someone think abot kissing and make out when your mother is going to die ???!!!!! When elena lost Jeremy , she had a realistic reaction but the way the writter did things with Caro don't make sence...
ReplyDeleteThey were having a moment. Deal with it. Coz people are not one dimensional beings to just feel one emotion all the time. We are capable of feeling multiple, even conflicting emotions and thats what this is about.
ReplyDeleteThe conversation started about death, then after he took her hand, she confronted him with what she overheard her mom say to him. At that moment there was no way he was going to just let her believe that he was there coz her mom asked him to, because it wasn't true. You must remember that after she said she hated him, they never officially got over that road block, she never took it back and he never had the chance to talk to her about it with everything going on. So when she asked him why he was here, he obviously had to address the issue, because it was clearly bothering him. He never said it out loud before coz maybe at first he was scared she would say she hated him again and later coz there really wasn't room for his emotional drama. SO he kept it buried...till he couldn't anymore. So he said it. He said it was the worst thing he had heard in a long time. And when she replied that she never really hated him...well.. the Stefan Salvatore Emotional Control walls came crashing down. . .. it was just the most natural thing in the world and if you can't see that,.then your blind.
Hi,,
ReplyDeleteThere are so many holes in TVD,, you can drive a Piggy-Back Semi Truck through all of these Unsupported & UN-Substantiated SL's,
This show has run amok more then it's characters. lolol
oh for fuck's sake. that is not what I meant and you know it. go take a flying leap.
ReplyDeleteNo, please, explain what you meant, because the only thing I understood was you saying how rape isn't rape because she was into him. So please, the floor is all yours. Explain away...
ReplyDeleteNo please explain to where I said rape isn't rape? you are making wild assumptions based on a quick reply to a large conversation but hey whatever, so long as you get to stoke a fire an accuse someone. I was in fact referring to her later friendship with Damon and the fact that she was attracted to him PRIOR to the bullshit that went on between them. I am not saying that negates anything or that anything happened or not.
ReplyDeletealso, knowing someone personally who has been the victim of rape, and been affected by it, it makes me sick to see people use it as a ploy in a TV show or a shitty comments thread. you have your issues, clearly, but don't take them out on me or blanket accuse me of saying things I never did.
ReplyDeletethere you can have your fucking floor back.
Also can i say that Stefan is not turned off by Caroline's control freakiness...in fact it amuses him almost... its like he's accepted her heart and soul, flaws and all.. so much so that the flaws that stick out to the rest of the world are not considered 'flaws' by him. Its so cute !!! <3
ReplyDeleteThe kiss between Stefan and Caroline was one of the most beautiful that I ever saw on TV. Seriously, it was perfect: the acting, the music, the light, the landscape.... It was so romantic, beautiful, adorable, perfect, sweet, kind... I don't think it was forced at all. Paul Wesley and Candice Accola have an amazing chemistry. It will be good to see Stefan be himself in a relationship. He was always worried with Elena, which was so annoying. And then, Liz died. I cried during the last 15 minutes. Brilliant acting from Candice Accola and Marguerite MacIntyre. I will miss Liz for sure. And Bye bye Jeremy. I was not sad about that. But about Enzo, just have a life! Get over it. I can't believe that Matt is helping him.
ReplyDelete...you need to read more fan fiction. It's a whole new world.
ReplyDeleteSo all the guessing and speculation and JP was true to her word - the Gilbert Accident was just that an accident. However, it was still fun reading all the different theories - TVD should use some of them for future shows
ReplyDeleteWow - a sweet innocent kiss on the front porch of your parents cabin and you consider that "making out"? I would recommend staying away from 50 shades of grey.
ReplyDeleteIt is forever hard to tell with the SOD's ,, b/c they fib through there Yellow Teeth. lol
ReplyDeleteSo they told the truth 1 xm in 6 seasons,, Well,,whooptidoo,,Let's break out the party hats and streamers,and have a good old fashioned shindig.
So,, you enjoyed reading the comments huh? What if I said that these two people Couldn't write a descent SL if someone put the pen's in their hands and guided them on a step by step Journey into the world of "Story Telling" and believable story telling at that. Not this garbage with a New ship they plan on launching,, who cares??? Liz is dying,, and she is worried about talking with Damon,, granted I would like to talk to both boy's and then smack them up side their head!! Damon for being an Azz and Stefan,, b/c he has been a BADDDD boy,, but everyone will find out soon enough. No Spoilers, nope can't conjole it out of me,, well maybe if you sk nicely. lololol Hi Gwenie:)))
Huh,, I had Stefan holding onto the back of Caro's neck so she wouldn't go running screaming for help. There was no where for her to go. She had to stand there and accept it. I'm going to pay fro this when Shannon reads it. (She is MIA in happiness until tomorrow.:))
ReplyDeleteSo,, anyway,, as long as I'm in it,, the setting was all wrong,, the sun in front of them made them a huge blur,, Caro didn't look relaxed. Not as energetic as she gets when around Nicklaus. He really gets her steamed. Oh,, I am going to pay for that comment. rolf.
So what did you think of a Vamp Speed Car driven by a whacked out lunatic,, hitting Our Matt? Why is Enzo important again?
I heard a rumor that J.M. requested Enzo's character on T.O. He seems to think Enzo might fit in better over there. What do you think of that?
The most romantic ?! i'd say the weirdest , most unexpected and boring kiss in the show....
ReplyDeleteThe most romantic kiss was Stefan/Elena in 3x22.
Unexpected? The kiss was alluded to for months.
ReplyDeleteWhile this is true, this is exactly what Katherine did to Stefan. It annoys me to no end that people give her a pass just because she's a woman.
ReplyDeleteDamnit, people! A = A,
I agree...I was almost certain that this was the case she was going to show Damon. Especially since Sheriff Forbes was in one of the flashback scenes with Sarah's mom and uncle Zack. I guess that would have completely changed the dynamics between her and Damon right before her death and the writers didn't want to go there. They prefer that people forget all the bad things that Damon did.
ReplyDeleteOk - random ??? If Matty Blue Eyes had actually died after Enzo hit him with the car and he obviously had on the Gilbert ring - where would he have gone? Would he be dead-dead or are they planning on introducing yet another world where characters can still come back to life?
ReplyDeleteG.M. Gwen,, Happy Valentines Day:)
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately,, Mattie would have died. The Gilbert ring no longer has its power. It is just a pretty antique ring now,, at least that is what we are led to believe.
Mattie would have been Dead-dead.
Hey Lynne to be heard from you - To be honest for great writing in drama series I watch Scandal, for great comedy Big Bang for Sci-fi fantasy, escape from reality and show best paired with a good glass of red wine, I might add, I watch TVD -.
ReplyDeleteAnd, Hell Yes, if I were dying I can't think of a better way to kick the bucket then having a HOT immortal stud at my bedside - who wouldn't. Yes, this show has been predictable, and talk about soap opera drama, yes from the beginning - Stefan writing in his journal about his tormented life - can't get more sappy, soap opera then that - I would just like to suggest everyone just enjoy the ride.
Well Damon did compel her (Liz) to leave the party,, and she hadn't recalled since of ever being there. I have been taking this show with a grain of salt ever since episode 4 of S4. Too many plot holes, they have never been filled in or explained. The ONE thing that did accur to me,, is that Sheriff forbes said Dr. Gilbert never hit his breaks before they went off the bridge.
ReplyDeleteAlso how nonchalant she was about Damon's killing all those people and not 1 word of reprimand.
The scene with Caro and her mom,, you mien they couldn't come up with her mom telling her how much she loves her and how proud she is of her. But a Bicycle to let her know she has let her go to grow? I'm sorry,, if there are those who thought that scene was sweet,, but as a mom myself,, that was beyond lame. Obviously whom ever wrote that scene is not a parent imo.
Hi,, I am,, I am enjoying the ride of nit picking. lolol Big Bang huh,, hillarious. I get a pretty good laugh out of both shows,, T.O. & TVD. How could you not,, We have Stefan with his flawless skin (Spa Treatments:)) Damon with snarky comments and Blue Eyes. And the lies that he tells are brilliant. What's not to laugh about. With my glass of wine.
ReplyDeleteI was also expecting a real goodbye between Caroline and her Mom when she tapped into her thoughts (like what Damon did with Rose). But I have to admit that the flashback scene with the bicycle made me tear up, which is a rare thing for The Vampire Diaries to achieve (and there have been many deaths on this show!). Maybe I'm seeing it from the perspective of a daughter rather than a mother, but I didn't find it lame at all. To me, that entire scene in the hospital room was executed beautifully by everyone.
ReplyDeleteYou are so right - I have never seen Stefan so happy just being himself. It is so nice to see this character finally find true Happiness in his life.
ReplyDeleteI apologize for the lame,, it wasn't lame,, I just really wanted a mushy scene for lack of a better word. The time spent between the two in her Liz's last days,, would/should have been a little more realistically done. Too much Hodge-podge interference. I love the Salvatore boys,, but was not into Damon giving the Eulogy,, But that was the only way the writers could think of to introduce Their Mother coming into the picture.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the way new Sl are introduced to the show. IMO it is done in a tacky way. I understand what they are trying to do, but I disagree with the approach.
No worries, you don't have to apologize for having a different perspective! I can completely understand some people wanting more of a mushy goodbye mother/daughter scene. I've never been a big fan of the long tearful goodbye scenes, so I actually liked the way that the writers incorporated Liz' illness into all the various different plots. For starters, it gave her tons of screentime in her final days (which would have been difficult to do otherwise) and it also allowed her to have a final moment with practically every major cast member. I guess they could have had tons of tearful goodbye scenes between Liz and various characters, but there's only so much screen time one can allocalte to that. Also, having Liz interact with all of the various characters under "normal" circumstances that didn't revolve around her illness, just helped to remind me of how awesome her character really was. In some ways, I think that it was probably the best way to serve her memory.
ReplyDeleteYou have to love The Vampire Diaries. Of all the shows I watch, it's the one where viewers are least likely to agree on anything! LOL
I agree about the long tearful goodbye scenes,, it is just that Liz & Caro,, have/had a very tight relationship,, even through all the crazy super natural happenings in town and to her and her family. I mien, Geez,, she even allowed Klaus in her house to heal Caro.
ReplyDeleteThis is/was a great character, which unfortunately,, left more more holes with her leaving the show. But I have a feeling that is the plan.
lolol,, You are correct there. The reason for these threads is to share opinions even if everyone see's things from a different angle,, doesn't mien they are wrong,, but should add spice to the discussion.
Many times you will find someone else s perspective to be totally different then your own,, or another poster can freak you out and say HEY,, I like that idea. And your system immediately go's into SHOCK. lolol
You really have no idea what you are talking about
ReplyDeletei guess i'm the only one on planet earth who hates the idea of stefan and caroline together....i just really hate them two together...I really wanted them to put enzo and her together...and it sucked how now they have made enzo so annoying i wish stefan or someone would snatch his heart out...gosh he gets on my nerves...anyway, i thought the moment with caroline remembering a childhood moment was soo cute...a real tear jerker...probably the most authenticate part of the episode...really sweet...i hate that they wrote jeremey out before bonnie returned...they deserved to have a proper goodbye...I'm still waiting on the off chance that bonnie and damon will have more scenes together but since this show is basically the delena diaries ...i doubt that will happen...over all the episode wont bad at all..its just enzo is annoying and i really wanted stefan and caroline to REMAIN JUST FRIENDS.
ReplyDeletei will track u down and kill u.. before shannon kills u .. LOL (just joking, don't report me, I'm not a serial killer) !!!!
ReplyDeleteOk time to defend my ship:
that kiss will go down as the most well executed, moving, beautiful, romantic moment in TVD history. The lighting according to me was perfect. The mood was perfect. It just doesn't get more picture perfect than this.
Caroline's hesitation was right on. He has snubbed her twice so far. And his out of the blue revelation that hearing her say she hated him was the worst thing, the way he said it, like his heart was breaking... I'm sure that was a lot to take in for her. All along she was convinced that he was here only coz he promised her mom; and here he is baring his soul to her and being vulnerable. it was unexpected. And his reaction to her saying - we both know i never really hated u -- I think it was Paul Wesleys better performances to date. it was like, "i don't know what i would have done if you had told me otherwise. All this while I've ben dying inside, you just set me free" He inched fwd - that took her by surprise. Till he finally kissed her, she dint want to believe that he would. She dint want to get hurt again. Thats very much understandable. N when he did kiss her, it was soft and he paused for her to kiss him back, and she did, and it was passionate i felt. It wasn't rip your clothes and hv sex passionate, it was passionate for someone who wasn't expecting this at all, someone who almost can't believe this is happening. someone who is going through a lot of emotions. It was beautiful. And the way they looked at each other when it was done..... took my breath away.
Unexpected cause it was out of the place to me .
ReplyDeleteThis episode was really good. It was very sad to see Liz dying and I really liked her scenes with Damon. Heartbreaking to see Caroline arriving to the hospital too late.
ReplyDeletelolololol Yeah,, I have been in hiding. lmbo,, Shannon should be out of her comatose Steroline state by now.
ReplyDeleteI will admit,, Stefan was being romantic,, maybe the most I have ever seen him,, But,, it was Caro,, that appeared to be unsure,, uncomfortable,, so I decided to have some fun with it. I am so surprised Gwen didn't jump in,, but she is very familiar with my Humor as is Shannon,, they know that sometimes I can't let a good "Tease" go by. lolol
Yesterday was Valentines Day,, and unfortunately,, there was no ripping off clothes and having sex,,, so,, all that lovey-dovey stuff goes right over my 5"2 head. lmbo
Well,, it is a good thing we didn't need to call the Paramedics for you.:))
I'm glad you enjoyed the scene and show. Being a Klaroline Die hard fan,, it was rough for me:))
Wow - that recap was amazing!!! I must have watched it at least 10X Just one additional comment - if I may - when Car. says "one of us should probably say something" and Stef. says "go for it" & Car. says "not that" - I just loved that last little exchange - So much for them to process in that moment - I am sure Caroline's mind was all over the place and I love how Stefan was certain about his actions once he finally decided to "go for it". Caroline had been so focused on Liz's death that this small moment of joy and hope for the future during the saddest moment of her life was so bittersweet.
ReplyDeleteSoooo are you digging Steroline? Common you have to admit they are kinda cute? Klaus is too busy kicking butt in the bayou to care what Car. is doing in MF - I say give Klaus about 50 years and I am sure he will be itching to check in on Caroline.
ReplyDeleteHahah Hi,, Yeah 50 years sounds about right,, but to a Hybrid and Vampire,, they go by pretty quick. It's going to take me some time to get used to the Idea. I love both characters,, just never put them together as a couple. Would be like Stefan and Lexi dating. Ewe,,:))
ReplyDeleteChange of subject,, last night I had a few people over for Seafood paella and Margareta's,, so I'm cleaning up after everyone left and sat down to the computer,, answered Maria's post,, and had the wildest Idea pop into my head. I couldn't help it,, I busted out laughing,, so I didn't think I should post it here, so I went to E.W. and posted.
I really missed Kai & Bonnie this episode. Especially,, Kai when he is checking out Jeremy. lolol Soooo,, now that Jeremy is off to God knows where,, what if Kai starts checking out Damon? Or try's to hit on Damon? What would Damon do? lmbo
I received 1 response,, saying that would be a great action scene.
Some people have no sense of humor..lol
What do you think of that idea? I think it's hysterical!!
Four days later. Thank you. hahaha.
ReplyDeleteNo no. Let's kill her. I'll get the shovel. lol
ReplyDeleteAnddd, I'm back 4 days later. It was touch and go there for a minute. ; )
ReplyDeletelmaoo!
ReplyDeleteSomeone in their Family (I can't remember the Name) had an illegitimate child and since Stefan killed everyone else in their family the family name had to go somewhere. It was explained when Rebekah was looking for more white oak back in s3
ReplyDeletehttp://meghavv.tumblr.com - check the australian promo for ep 15
ReplyDeletenervous !
Any time sugar,, you can always count on me for support and causing trouble.
ReplyDeleteHope you had a wonderful 4 days.
The Hospital didn't call and say my adopted one has bitten the dust,, So all is serene. Ummm. lmao