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POLL : What did you think of Sleepy Hollow - Tempus Fugit?

24 Feb 2015

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  1. This season went off the rails but I'm hopefully they'll fix these problems next season (please renew the show, FOX). And they did fix at least one of them but poor Ichabod having to kill Katrina. I hope he doesn't resent Abbie for this.


    Looking forward to the four of them kicking ass in season three!

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  2. The hug between Abbie and Ichabod was all kinds of awesome.


    I loved how Ichabod was hitting the iPhone against the counter :) It’s really a testament to their friendship that her phone is full of Ichabod Selfies and her password is his birthday, true friendship. I loved how Abbie was able to have a family type reunion. Abbie being badass in every time period is wonderful :)


    Glad Frank got his soul back. I feel terrible that Ichabod had to kill his wife though, that's heartbreaking regardless of her actions :(

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  3. BEST EPISODE!! I hope it gets renewed!!

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  4. F*ck these writers. I figured after last week they'd kill Katrina, but was hoping they'd at least figure out a way to get her out of the story until later on. Ugh. UGH. I wish just one writers room would go - "you know what, fans, we're not getting a Twitter account because this is our story, not yours" - again, UGH. I can't believe the writers actually did a virtual full reboot of the series, it's pretty ridiculous...


    Then again, considering how much of a sell-out this episode was it was nonetheless entertaining as always. I'll have to rewatch and comment again once my utter annoyance with the fandom has cooled off.


    Hopefully going forward they will replace the showrunner with someone who can figure out a great story he wants the show to tell and he'll tell it, and not try to fix things to please a dozen people on Twitter.

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  5. I think it only "went off the rails" a few episodes into the season... and even then it was mostly stuff that would have been adjusted anyway, like Hawley. Lots of better shows have made bigger mistakes than this one. But I thought the first two episodes back were better than over half of season 1 and they'd finally achieved a tone I really, really loved... But then it seemed like they were simply trying to please everyone.


    I think overall though when people rewatch the series and are in season 2 with fresh eyes they will appreciate it more. There's way more good things about it than bad.

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  6. It was amazing! Excellent episode! Loved it!

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  7. THIS EPISODE WAS EPIC!!!! Omg!! See whyyyy couldn't the ENTIRE season be this great???? If it wasss we wouldn't be on the edge of our seats WORRYING if we'll get another season or not!!! THIS THIS is what WE, THE FANDOM fell in love with!! Abbie and Ichabod being CENTER STAGE AS WITNESSES!!! Their bond trumps ALL!!!!!!!

    BEN FRANKILIN WAS THE MAN!!!! I loveddd him so much! He just easily accepted Abbie, no hesitation. I mean NONE!! He was so excited!! I loved every bit of him and when Abraham killed him MY JAW DROPPED!!! That was so sad!

    Grace and Abbie uniting was sooooo sweet!!!! I half expected them to hug, and Abbie's eyes getting watery from relief and happiness broke my heart! Awww the bonds of family was strong on this one. I loved it. I wish there was time for Grace to ask questions.

    Katrina- For the very last episode. This is the ONE TIME she didn't bother me. IRONIC!!! And now the whispering red head is dead!!! DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD!!!!! I'm seriously doing cartwheels! I did not expect that!! But gawwwddddd!!!! They couldn't have done that in episode 3????? Of THIS SEASON???? Would've saved us a wholeeee lot of heartache and stress I know that!!!!!!

    And Ichabod Motha F**king Crane!!!! Yesss!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! I kept yelling, DO IT!! DO IT!!! PLEASE DO IT!!!!! And he succeeded!! I feel bad for him though. If I didn't love him so much I wouldn't care. But he is lovable! Very lovable!!! I do, I do feel bad for him. But I'm sooo glad he saved Abbie!! It needed to be done. Now if they can leave this wicked witch of the whispering West OFF THIS SHOW!!! Then there might be a great chance to save it, and get season 3 back on EPIC TRACK!!! Here's hoping!!!

    Ichabod and Abbie- God I love them so much. I really do. Their bond in unbreakable. Glad we got a final hug, glad we saw their video on Abbie's phone, and I'm glad we got one last, "Leftenant"! Also glad we got to see Jenny and Irving (although only one scene) I'm glad it ended with all four of them, a nice parallel to when Season 2 started.

    This show has so much potential it needs to play out. And we desperately need more story from Abbie's side. There's so much story to tell, and I hope TPTB (Not Goffman) get a chance to tell it. This is their chance...GET IT RIGHT!!!

    P.S. I'm still laughing. Smmfh. Can't believe they decided to "address the elephant" at the end. I took that as a big FU to the fans. Not Cool. If they did that in the beginning, they wouldn't be pissed off about it now. Sighhh.

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  8. Yay. Looks like I'll be back next season for Sure now. I quit after that stupid pregnancy episode. Too much Katrina not enough Abbie/Jenny/Frank.

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  9. Great. Thank God Katrina is gone

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  10. Good riddance to Katrina!!! I am so happy she is gone. I only hope she is gone for good!

    Great episode! I cannot wait until next season!

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  11. I'm not a Katrina fan. But, what they did to her character was annoying. They could have had her doing witchy things from day one. There was no need for her to be so lame for 1 and 3/4 of a season. I find it ironic that she had to build her gifts back up because she spent so long in purgatory but then in come Soloman Kent and he's just badass from minute one. Didn't make much sense. Ideally they should of had her turn at some point during her stay with Abraham. Have her go home to crane for a bit then eventually side with Abraham. They should of also done the Solomon Kent episode sooner, to explain how she might have some darkness in there, so then it wouldn't of seemed so rushed near the end.

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  12. My sentiments exactly. Honestly, I think their weakest point was a couple episodes here and there right in the middle of the season. Otherwise, I could find something to like about most of them. Episodes like "Go Where I Send Thee" and "Mama" are probably two of my favorite episodes of the series as a whole, for example.
    As for tonight's episode? OOF. Damn. Poor Ichabod. If they do get a third season, it'll be quite interesting to see how in the hell he deals with THAT. I warned people that Katrina's death would lead to a whole new sort of angst and drama. So if there's a season 3, be prepared for that, folks, 'cause ain't no way he'll be getting over that quickly.
    I did love the ending thing with Ichabod, Abbie, Jenny, and Irving together and walking off as a team, though. I really hope Irving is truly okay now. Abbie already lost Corbin, she shouldn't have to lose Irving ever again, too.
    The hug Abbie gave Ichabod before he went to fight Abraham was really sweet and touching, as was Ichabod's memories coming back upon looking at that video on her phone (and LOL at him poking around with it and literally sliding it across the table to figure out how to work it :D. That was cute). And Abbie meeting Grace Dixon was awesome, too. I'd be all for an episode (or more!) next season that brings her back for another meeting, and allows Jenny to meet her as well.
    And I liked the tension between Ichabod and Abbie as she tried to tell him what was going on, too-it was interesting to see the roles reversed from the pilot.
    Other surprises? Poor Franklin! And Abbie getting that guy in a headlock? Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn. That was impressive and a little intimidating all at the same time :p!
    So, yeah. Interesting way to end the season. Felt much less dramatic than the first season finale, or even this season's midseason finale, but in some ways, I'm okay with that, especially since we don't know yet what this show's fate will be. But I do hope we do get a season 3, and if we do, then I look forward to seeing how all of this affects the show from here on out.

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  13. I can identify each and every one of those pics now that you have this pic posted. I wasn't paying attention while the episode was playing but this is so cute!

    The sheriff, Ichabbie doing karaoke, Hawley, Ichabbie doing yogaIchabbie at their first Ball game, Ichabbie playing pictionary, Jenny, another Ichabbie, Ichabbie doing a video while trying to do a selfie, Irving, Both Abbie and Jenny, anddd I can't make out that last photo? It looks like Dean Winchester. LOL Abbie watches Supernatural. LOL

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  14. lol. I think that might have been a selfie of Sheriff Corbin's son, I think, but yeah it does :)

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  15. If there is a next season. = /

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  16. OMG the Solomon Kent thing was one of the most idiotic things they've EVER done in this show. There's **so many** better ways they could have tempted Katrina with her dark magic. Yet... they have a warlock say one "tempting" thing, she feels it, and immediately spirals into an irredeemable evil villain, in less than two episodes. Hmmm. That... That is a great example of horrible sloppy writing.

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  17. So sad when Ichabod was holding Katrina's body. Just read why they could not get the real Abraham for the scenes in the past ( filming in Australia) but it was bit jarring. Several great moments but my favorite was the instant rapport with Grace that Abbie had - that was wonderful and I like the actress playing Grace. We were rewarded with that oh so perfect scene Ichabod had with the cellphone. Ha- slide to the right. It was a very good finale and I will wish on a star tonight that we get more episodes of our witnesses next year, even if they are not always hugging it out.

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  18. Ohhh ok, that makes a lot more sense. LOL!!! He seriously does look like Dean in that picture though. Haha

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  19. Yup. That's why I say it should of happened sooner.

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  20. i loved this epiosde!! After this episode this show deserves a season 3! I was a little worried with the ending because it wasn't a cliffhanger but i guess the writers did that just in case there won't be a season 3! so please renew Sleepy Hollow!! please!!!!!!

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  21. I agree. If they would've handled that better and SOONER, I probably wouldn't have minded her so much.

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  22. Really great finale! Still had trouble believing Katrina as an antagonist because it happened way too quickly without the good in her putting any resistance whatsoever against the dark side. Still, an action packed finale and Ichabbie is great as usual.
    Sleepy Hollow's worst momènts have been no where near as bad as other shows worst moments and it has always been at least consistently good. Hopefully, we get to see season 3! Else, another Fox show cancelled way too early.

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  23. Let's think positively! There will be a next season! I don't pay attn to ratings, but they can't be that bad, can they?

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  24. http://tvline.com/2015/02/23/sleepy-hollow-season-3-spoilers-mark-goffman/

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  25. But they were. And not getting an early renewal says otherwise. But we shall see. I have my fingers crossed. I'll be really distraught if it doesn't get a season 3.

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  26. Agreed! I didn't realize the ratings were bad. I didn't mind S2 myself. It wasn't the worst TV I've seen. Haha!

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  27. This show took a MAJOR downhill in quality after that spectacular first season and I never thought the show could pull itself back up but boy did this finale prove me wrong. It didn't necessarily achieve the greatness of the first season, but it was pretty damn close to it.


    This finale had all the making of what made me fall in love with the show in the first place. The whole episode focusing so much on Abbie and Ichabod and the ever so humor from our lovable Ichabod that we all know and love. Considering what was going on in 1781, I never thought the show would explore Abbie going back in time but it was really interesting to watch and was well done. Just seeing Ichabod's reaction to when Abbie tells him that they will meet 200 years in the future was just priceless XD And when Abbie knocked Sutton out was such a badass moment! I was seriously cheering for her when she did that.


    Ichabod trying to figure out how to work Abbie's smartphone was such a highlight of the episode from me. THIS is what I want to see more of from the show! More of Ichabod trying so hard to figure out modern day stuff.


    Abbie meeting up with her ancestor, Grace in person really made me tear up for a moment. And loved that she helped out Abbie with reversing the Traveling Spell. I don't know what she meant by the biggest battles are yet to come but all I know is that that must mean more of the Witnesses, Jenny, and Irving (Yay to getting his soul back!) teaming up and being badasses taking down monsters and whatnot. Bring it on!


    I had a feeling that Katrina was going to be the major death in the finale but I never expected her husband, Ichabod to be the one to do it! That must have been really hard for him to do that but it had to be done for the show to move forward. I did get a bit teary eyed when Ichabod was holding her until her last few moments before she disintegrated and joined Jeremy in the afterlife.


    All in all, can we just forget this season ever existed (except for this finale and "Mama" which were one of my favorite episodes of the whole show)? After fixing basically all of their mistakes, this was a huge step in the right direction and hopefully FOX will give it another season so we can have more of Abbie and Ichabod adventures.

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  28. RATINGS AND DEMOGRAPHICS BE DAMNED.....................this the "best series on TV", period! The writing, acting, characters, chemistry (Abbie and Crane), and well timed humor are what make Sleepy Hollow so special........what other series gives you (viewers) more? This finale was "outstanding" just Sleepy Hollow at it's best plain and simple. In fact if you changed the ending this finale could have easily been the pilot! Believe it or not I really enjoyed "Dark/Evil Katrina". Her character turn/development would have worked a lot better if she would have "flipped" after the "Weeping Woman" episode, but hind sight is always 20/20. The only way I could be happier right now is if Sleepy Hollow were already renewed for season 3! 4 THE SLEEPY HEAD ARMY TO KEEP ON RIDING, I will still be Nobody!!!

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  29. Considering the events of this week and last, a better title for this episode would have been "Mea Culpa."

    I feel bad for Katia Winter. She's a capable actress and did well with the material she was given but ultimately playing Katrina Crane was a thankless job that went nowhere. That character was 100% wasted potential. She could have been great but this ended exactly how I feared it would. I hope Winter gets a better role on a better show during pilot season.

    It's unbelievable how completely this show went off the rails in season two. What a disaster. I don't see how the producers could let an entire season get so out of hand. Obviously the last two episodes were Sleepy Hollow's attempt to wipe the slate clean and start over but I'm unsure there's enough people willing to stick around to see it happen.

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  30. NOOOOOO!! Katrina the only charater I cared about

    I guess this is the last of Sleepy Hollow for me :(

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  31. Oh and I forgot to point out why I think the Katrina thing was stupid and poorly handled. Until three episodes ago the show never, ever ever ever ever so much as hinted that Katrina was anything but devoted to good and defeating evil. A witch being tempted by dark magic is one thing. But Katrina did a total 180 and it was SOLELY BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE BITCHED ABOUT HER ALL THE TIME. If you want to cater to that and write her out... Fine. I wouldn't have like it either, but fine. But this was mind-boggling in its stupidity and how poorly handled it was. These last episodes, on a purely entertaining level, were great. But they fall apart when you think about the internal logic of the show.

    Ughhhhhhh. I really want a third season because this cannot be my last memory of my once favorite show.

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  32. I want to give the rate of this episode to be awesome but you kill Katrina.So, I have to give its rate to be good. Y_Y



    However, I'm OK that the writers don't write Abbie and Ichabod are a couple and don't write to reset a whole story from season 1 to season 2 like Fringe even they can do with the "Parallel Universe" Theory.


    Hope Fox will renew this show. Because the last 2 episodes are awesome like Season 1!

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  33. And where are those shows now?

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  34. RIP my beloved Katrina

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  35. RIP my beloved Katrina thanks for your amazing acting @katia_winter hope to to see you soon in new projects I'll miss you. I need to see Katia in new stuff I need to see her again T_T

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  36. Awesome episode and it's great that everything we know will not change!

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  37. Yeah I was totally okay if she becomes evil if it had more back story. But, okay, they made her evil anyway so I thought at least they didn't kill her, *cough* like Baelfire *cough* but then the killed her D: fml.

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  38. Best ep of the series, or at least the season. I liked Katrina when she first showed up, but as the series went on, she became so annoying and really just a third wheel that didn't fit. Had they only brought her on for a few eps, it would have been fine, but they kept her so long she outstayed her welcome.

    It was great seeing the time travel role reversal and Ben Franklin. Really an awesome ep. And Abby getting to see Grace was great.

    If we have another season, I'm sure it will be better now that Katrina and Jeremy are gone. It's time they focused on other things.

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  39. This is an ongoing and everlasting debate it seems, but the show has hinted since S1 that there was possibilities of her going dark. There was no giant 180 due to people bitching. Bad writing yes, and I think they were going play this turn out some more people make her come out in the finale like Henry did but it was coming.

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  40. Some are still on the air, IMO.

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  41. These last three should have been in the first half with this being the mid season finale. Never care for the poor excuse of her energy being drained because of her time spent in Purgatory, Serilda came out fighting and she was there long and burnt. The writers just fucked up no excuses needed.It seemed as if they wanted to pull another Henry betrayal but it fell felt for a lot of reasons.

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  42. I loved nearly every aspect of this finale, except for the last few minutes. The problem for me was that the show was wrapped up way too neatly, with no cliffhanger, meaning no specific story to really look forward to for season 3. In other words, it felt like a series finale rather than a season finale, which is not a good sign.. Showrunners only do that if they have no intention of renewing a series, or if they had zero sense of where the next season is headed and want to leave the story wide open for anything (which also doesn't bod too well either). But even with the latter explanation, they should have tried to end the season on a more exciting note and they didn't. I think it's possible to have a good cliffhanger while still achieving some sort of closure (if they're not sure about renewal).


    The time travel story was an excellent twist, but they could have done so much more with it. Abbie going back in time had practically no effect on anything, meaning that almost the entire episode could have been cut out and the ending would have still been the same,. It would have been far more interesting if there had been consequences to her going back in time. Maybe that will be the ultimate plan, but they should have left us with a hint of that now.


    Unlike most people, I actually liked evil Katrina (surprisingly), although I think it would have been more interesting if there had been two Katrinas in the past instead of future Katrina inhabiting the body of past Katrina. That also seemed like too convenient a way to kill off a character entirely. Then again, if they reversed the spell, then would that mean that Katrina is still alive in the past, Ichabod knows nothing about her final betrayal and he died in the battle that Abbie saved him from.


    This is why time travel stories drive me crazy. It's impossible to make things add up! Anyway, despite all the character and plot inconsistencies, I really hope this show gets renewed.

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  43. Loved Abbie and Grace and hope she makes it back next season and they expand on Abbie's past and family.

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  44. I love it and felt so energized watching it like it I did the pilot episode. Everything that transpired in the past was golden, every moment. I am so mad that we had to get something this great so late in the game this should have happened in the first half of the season. Ben Franklin flirting with Abbie and then when he was beheaded my jaw fell open. Abbie trying to close the shades in the carriage and Ichabod WTF face.


    Katrina received a raw deal from the writers and it is what it is. I really hoped that they would have used her more especially with this bad turn I believed it would have worked because I was cheering her on when she killed that Rev. soldier. I don't understand how some are saying they never saw this coming, the show has been hinting that she can go either way from the jump.


    I am truly satisfied with this finale and can't wait for the next season.

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  45. I was so happy with the season finale, praying we get another season. Best part of the episode to me was Grace and Abbie meeting, imagine having a conversation with your great-great-great....so on and so on grandmother. I loved that, the Crane and Abbie hug was hilarious too. Please, please please renew for another season, I want to know who higher up knows about the evil vs good war that Franklin was talking about.

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  46. Agree completely -- but first we have to get a renewal,sigh.

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  47. I really liked that season finale, though I kind of gave up after the first episodes of this season. I loved the first season, it was a great season, but in the second the writers spread themself too thin. Especially the story arc with Katrina. They could have handled that better. I hope they will correct themself in the next season. I'm looking forward to more Abby/Crane interaction.

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  48. I felt so bad for Katia Winter. It was not her fault and twitterverse maligned her so. At least she doesn't have to fight those particular demons anymore. The other sad part is that the character of Katrina was only trying to save Ichabod out of love with the spell that put him to sleep for 200 plus years and for that her coven condemned her and she lost being with her child and was kept in purgatory . And then had the great misfortune to encounter a world of negative viewers. Pretty lousy luck all round.

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  49. I loved the finale, it was awesome. And Katrina turned evil was excellent, but I didn´t like that they made her evil so fast, it didnñt make sense why she would want to kill Ichabod and side with Henry when she knew all the horrible things he had done. I agree with most people, Katia is a great actress, sad she won´t be on the show anymore, I kinda liked Katrina, but it´s just that she was beyond annoying wanting to save Henry and all

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  50. Did that finale seem a little... final... to anyone else? I seriously felt shades of Almost Human's "and then they went on to have all sorts of crazy adventures" season-turned-series finale with the ending they gave us.

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  51. Exactly. The excuse they gave was lame.

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  52. I enjoyed this episode, I felt it was satisfying with a lot of callbacks.. or call-forwards? ;)
    This season, as a whole, was a big mess. Loved the premiere, then it fell asleep and they did nothing with their characters (most of the time). Then, suddenly, they finish the plot mid-season and go on without any direction, just to re-introduce plot very quickly.
    So, Katrina wasn't used properly for like 3/4 of the season (like Jeremy) and then it all happened so quick that I couldn't realize what was happening to Katrina.

    The final episode itself was good, though. I hope they get a shot at Season 3, I feel like this could be a new beginning if they want to.

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  53. Hahahahaha "IMO" Lol that was cute. Okie dokie. = )

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  54. I sincerely hope the show doesn't get a season 3 . I'm sorry but even an amazing finale can't wipe out a whole season of bad writing. Sleepy hollow was one of the shows i expected a lot even before S1. I was waiting for the pilot like i used to wait for santa. The season 1 was OMG. the S1 finale episode was " Oh my F***ing GOD " . But the S2 was "OMG" but in the bad way. Don't get me wrong . I love the show but this season was written so so so badly.. UGH

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  55. They gave into fans that is what made it bad. I've made the choice to drop the show.

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  56. Yeah I would have been okay if they'd made Katrina progressively bad and have hints all along the way. This just screams giving into the fans and also screams to me a future Ichabod/Abbie pairing. Well at least the fangirls will be happy right?

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  57. I didn't expect to like Sleepy Hollow but I agree Season 1 was one of my favorite shows while Season 2 of Sleepy Hollow made it my least favorite.

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  58. I don't see how that could possibly be true. I'm never an advocate of letting fan opinion dictate a show's direction but if Sleepy Hollow had caved to fans throughout season two then there would be more viewers and fewer complaints.

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  59. I'm a bit confused. It seems we're arguing, and I'm not sure why so I'm bowing out.

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  60. On Twitter I've read things and the fans that complained there must be super happy.


    I should have said certain fans. It doesn't take a lot of fans, just a few loud ones.

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  61. What? Hahahahaha I'm not arguing at all? I was being very sincere. I have no idea where you got that idea from? (Scratches head).

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  62. Oh . . . okay. It was the way your response read to me so I wasn't sure. Glad to know I go the wrong impression :-)

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  63. Nicolás Caballero Mühlbach25 February 2015 at 22:54

    Awful. Just awful.

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  64. Yeah. No worries. You're on the good list. Lol = )

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