Lana Parrilla is an evil, evil woman. That second sneak peek slayed me, she really makes it impossible NOT to feel Regina's heartbreak right along with her. I hope the story behind page 23 is going to come into play some more this season and I also keep hoping it won't take the writers too long to let Robin Hood find a way back to Storybrooke. The way they seperated him and Regina in 4.11 was just cruel. I want to see those two reunite soon.
Regina tore up that page in the winter finale, and she pieced it back together? That's a bit ridiculous... But anyway, loved the first sneak peek. Emma & Regina really work well together.
Oh wow, Regina put the book picture of her and Robin Hood back together! The way her voice breaks when she says she hasn't heard of him so far.... aww damn, this hurts, but the moment of their reunion will be extra special and emotional after all this.
Regina and Emma have the most interesting relationship on the show in my opinion. Love how they are with Henry too. :) Swan Queen fan here sorry. xD I hope to see a lot of them. I don't mind some action too! Especially Emma with a sword or her magic.
When I started watching Once Upon a Time I never ever expected I would become so invested in the character who was originally "the Evil Queen". Lana Parrilla is the best actress on OUaT for me, hands down. I'm so amazed with the layers she gives Regina and when Regina cries I want to cry with her. It is hard for Regina to have hope now, but I believe there IS still hope for Regina and Robin and in the end true love will prevail.
I really wish they didn't do the 6-week time jump! I hope they do some flashbacks to that night, there's a bunch going on! Belle after she sends Rumple away, Emma & Hook's reunion, the author's house, and Rumple outside of Storybrooke.
I feel there's something very wrong about that page which picture Regina happy. I never saw it as hope that Regina could be happy because in my mind If there's established rules created by an all powerful entity who decides the fate of the protagonist even the change that Regina is desperately trying to do to be good won't matter. I believe this is an alternate version of the book where the villains have their happy ending and heroes don't which is clearly the theme of this second part of the season. This would explain why this picture took place in the past because in my opinion changing the book will rewrite time.
You know I try to limit my shipping for OUAT because I know SQ has like a 0,0001% to happen and it's kinda ok because I also just love the characters, their dynamic and the family relationships of the show but these two seek peak DAMN. They're just so perfect :D the acting, the chemistry, this new friendship.... the snark, bringing Regina a her freaking lunch, drinking buddies, Regina openning to Emma.... everything is just of the chart when those two share a scene <3
I'm so glad they finally have Emma and Regina as friends. Now they can work on the Emma/Snow relationship. Honestly every time they truly deviate (as in skip several episodes) from the Emma/Regina, Emma/Snow and Snow/Regina relationships I feel like the sow has really suffered. It's lacked an emotional anchor for a while now and after the Frozen disaster I really hope the characters can actually change and become more fleshed out. Especially poor Emma.
Not to be mean, but... the writers and actors have said many times that SQ will not happen. EVER. Friends? Sure. But there is NOT ever going to be a romantic relationship between these two very heterosexual women who have such a complicated past that even if they WERE gay, they'd never be able to have a healthy relationship. I do find it a bit offensive that the second we have a strong female character she has to be gay though. Just because women like men does not make them weak.
Eh, I don't really care for Regina and Emma as friends- not enemies great, but beyond that... I cringed when Emma forced herself on her in the crypt, so much abuse and whitewashing of bad things. I hope it doesn't stop getting Regina/Mal time (so excited to have her back!) and Regina/Snow and Regina/Rumple (and eventual OQ)- the latter two have always been my core relationship interest, I'm sad the way Snow was set aside some. I know baby leave, hopefully she comes more forefront and more bandit style! I've pretty much felt from day one the less Emma, the better, lol. Not my cup of hero, fated because of your parents, white magic even when you do some really horrible things, hm, yeah, lovely messaging.
No.Adam & Eddy have said SQwill never gphappen and niether character has shown that they're gay or bi.Plus,Regina is with Robin-who's her soulmate,one true live btw-and Emma is with Hook.
I have this rediculous idea that page 23 actually happened. Rumple of course found out and in order to keep his monster changed their memories. Also to get back at robin hood for stealing from him. Then my other rediculous idea is lily I'd their kid. I know this is probably not the case but hey ya never know.
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So you really think it could happen?Funny when we know that both of the characters are heterosexual and that Emma has Hook and Regina has Robin (her soulmate by the way) sorry but "swanqueen" won't ever happen besides it would make no sense
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Hah. I wondered about that too ... Does the curse on the townline make it impossible to call? And how do they even get groceries from when no one can enter? ;-)
Do I think it will happen? I don't know what direction they'll take it. Do I think it could happen? Absolutely. The writers of the show can do whatever they want. It's their world, they get to decide where the characters end up. I've attached a list I've made of movies and tv shows with LGBT+ characters that actually had canonical straight relationships before they discovered or came out as LGBT+ (Also notice that 'Happily Divorced' is based on true story. It's completely valid to have heterosexual relationships and still being gay/bi; bisexuals exist, no matter how majestic they may seem to you they are not unicorns.)
I'm not sure what your soulmate argument is trying to accomplish. It's also canon that Daniel was Regina's soulmate. An exact quote from 3x03 Quite a Common Fairy "You're gonna help me find another soulmate?" "It is possible to find love again." Now I'm not sure what your level of comprehension is when it comes to the English language so allow me to add the definition of the word 'another'. Another - 1.used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further; 2.used to refer to a different person or thing from one already mentioned or known about. Interesting that a person can have more than one soulmate and more than one true love. Multiple characters have had more than one true love already. There's no reason for Robin to be the end all be all. Tink even says "It is possible to find love again" while referencing the loss of a soulmate. She flat out stated that you can move on from a soulmate and be happy with someone else. Regina and Robin are no exception. If the writers wanted to, the relationship can stay over with no conflict to canon.
Now whether your "it would make no sense" is based on your hetero argument or soulmate argument, both of which I've already dealt with, or is based on the fact that you can't see the potential of two people who once thought that they'd be destined to destroy each other finding common ground from sharing a true love, their son, and then growing to care about each other...Well if the later is what you were referring to then I don't have time to right out every reason and parallel but I suggest you take a deeper look. Eddy Kitsis said "Regina and Emma want the same thing. They want love, and they want family, and they want home." It's not a big leap that they could find that with each other.
Besides if we're talking about relationships that don't make sense. Regina and Robin said 842 words to each other before they kissed (not counting the missing year since they didn't remember it at the time they kissed & besides they hardly talked in that year anyway); that's it 842, the average words per minute is 150-160 in speech. That's 5 and a half minutes of development for their relationship and I'm supposed to believe it's true love?! That made no sense, their relationship had no development and no basis other than people wanting Regina to finally have a boyfriend. They didn't take time to build a foundation and then 4A was a train wreck that served no purpose other than making Robin look like a horrible human being. That's a relationship that doesn't make sense. Regina and Emma have spent years getting to know each other, there's actual development between the characters. If having two characters that have spent 4 seasons interacting makes less sense to you than a relationship that went all in after 842 words, I just don't know how else to explain it to you.
It can mean to used to mean misuse something, such as power, a situation, etc.. Not necessarily violence towards a person. Though there has been violence between the two. I do feel Emma, if unintentionally, often does things as much for her self, more than actually at the core thinking about others. (Snow too.) About their version of happiness for someone, what makes them feel good. And as the "savior" the characters are prone to let her, and that can lead to some bad things.
Finally! I was loosing hope in search for something not SQ related (this theme always escalates). :D And thank you for the hint. I did not notice it before. ;)
Sorry but yes I understand the meaning of the word "another" even though I'm french. And for the record most of the people who watch the show aren't even aware of the existence of your ship so I doubt the writers would suddenly make those 2 characters bi (or gay) I have nothing against gay couples in tv shows I even happen to like some of them but Regina and Emma simply aren't meant to be together in that way (but I really like them as friends). As for relationship development you can think that OQ was rushed but a lot of people don't share that opinion and I bet that you're also against CS but you can't say the same thing for them since it's obvious that their relationship took a lot of time to develop into mutual love. you say that Regina and Emma have spent years getting to know each other???Really???They hated each other to death for the whole first season,most of season 2 they didn't get along but they tried only for Henry and for most of season 3 they haven't really bonded especially when Emma brought Marian back.Btw she told Robin that the only 2 people that believe in her are him and Henry,that may not be the truth (because now the charmings kind of believe in her too)but it's what she feels so no you don't have to explain to me what you see in them that would make you think they could become a couple.You shouldn't hold on to them too much because you'll probably end up disappointed
The general audiences' awareness of potential storylines have no impact on what the storylines will be, in fact that kind of negates the entire purpose of a show because everyone would already know the story they're telling. The show is meant to tell the audience the story, it's subversive and you're along for the ride. Do you think the audience was aware of the potential Robin/Regina relationship before they shoe-horned the pixie dust in 3x03? No. Nobody except the people in the writers room knew that was the plan. That didn't stop them from making that storyline happen, because they decide what the twist and turns will be and the audience learns about them as the show progresses. Of course many plot twists are guessed by people in the fandom but most members of the general audience don't put that much thought into it. Do you think they guessed most of the romantic relationships that aren't famous from fairytales? Did they know about Cora/Gold before it happened, Will/Anastasia, etc. Or the other twists the GA weren't aware of: Baelfire being Henry's dad, Pan being Gold's dad, Ingrid being Emma's foster mom, Zelena being Regina's sister, etc. All of these things, whether speculated and believed within fandom or not, were not something the GA considered but happened anyway. You also shouldn't assume what I think about CS, I didn't mention it in my argument about relationships that don't make sense because I don't have a problem watching it. Are there some things I wish they had done differently? Yes, but there are many CSers I know that wish things were different with there ship. Even if CS isn't my favorite or preferred ship I can stand watching it. But CS and it's development has nothing to do with OQ and my issues with it.
Another thought is Robin pissed off Malefiscent for stealing her mirror and she took her revenge on Marianne forcing Robin to go after the wand to heal Marianne only he stole the wrong wand. Other theory is Blue interceded and that is why Robin looks different when at Rumple's. The picture can not have happened as if it happens and they have a child the war between Snow and Regina would end and Emma would not be born as Snow and David would never meet. There is also a theory that Paige is Jefferson and Regina's child. I am waiting for the supposed Graham and Regina child. Guessing there will not be any of them. Too contrived.My thought is Robin was sent to pick up the black wand and grabbed the yellow wand by mistake. As Robin is not magical the black wand would not have worked for him. The wand did work but thinking not too well. Again this is getting a bit contrived but the black wand could have belonged to Maleficent or it could have belonged to Blue and in time Blue is the one possessing the black wand. Thinking Robin blamed Mariane's death on his being cursed by Maleficent. Think Anastasia is missing too and that is why Will is town. Time to make amends. Then again Blue was the one upset over Tink showing Regina Robin so only she knew that was a problem, not Rumple. Keep working on your thought but it seems more likely the page is not as suspicious as the bag it game out of or the fact Will found it. Time will tell.
*Malefiscent OUaT s04e12 "Darkness On The Edge Of Town" - March 1, 2015 *Rumpbelle OUaT s04e13 "Unforgiven" - March 8, 2015 *Mulan OUaT s04e14 "Enter The Dragon" - March 15, 2015 *Ursula OUaT s04e15 "Poor Unfortunate Soul" - March 22, 2015 OUaT s04e16 "Best Laid Plans" - March 29, 2015 *Emma/ Relates to Heart of Darkness and Snow OUaT s04e17 "Heart of Gold" - April 05, 2015 *Cruella OUaT s04e18 "Sympathy for the De Vil" - April 12, 2015 * No telling OUaT s04e19 "Lily" - April 19, 2015 OUaT s04e20 "TBA" - May 26, 2015 OUaT s04e21 "TBA" - May 03, 2015 OUaT s04e22 "TBA" - May 10, 2015
you lost me in the Killian stuff. His story is not one of a lack of hope but of a desire for revenge, as in a century is long enough to seek payback. His relationship with Emma is true love as signified when he placed Snows ring on Emma's finger, true love follows that ring. As for the page, Snow speaks and the page appears as in it is possible to change the past but if that page enters the book it alters all subsequent events including Snow meeting David and having Emma who has Henry withe the deceased Neal. If she thinks about it Emma is Regina's happy ending, a person you accepts the bad in her and cares for her none the less.This is not to say Robin and Regina have no place together but it is to say a happy ending is not the same for all. For Regina it may be as simple as family, she wanted Hansel and Gretel, She wanted Owen, She wanted Henry, never wanting Snow but that is all the more reason to want Emma who has magic and needs a mentor, a friend and a grandmother if she thinks about it.
Did you ever had your heart broken and acted sensible? I remember having done quite some illogical things. :D Of course her first reaction was to tear the page apart when he left but she probably regreted it. Maybe the page is about hope and Robin. They are connected in Regina's world, I suppose.
Oooo...SwanQueen. So much better than OutlawQueen. Please, PLEASE, get rid of Robin. My problems with Robin: - Robin goes back and forth between two women: Regina and Marion. One who is his "true love", and one is the mother of his child. He doesn't come out and tell Marion that he's fallen in love with another person, he just talks to Regina behind her back. We saw this with David, Snow, and Kathryn. Most people generally agree that David was kind of a cad during this, and there's no difference between that instance and this one. - Robin cheats on his wife. He might be in love with Regina, but have a little respect and wait until you break it off with Marion. I understand that she's frozen, and might be that way indefinitely. Why don't you wait at least a few weeks to see. - Robin goes to see Regina in her lair, and "be with her". In doing this he's interrupting Regina from trying to find a way to save his wife. You know, the woman who's frozen. He even leaves his son with friends while an evil sorceress is flitting about Storybrooke, so that he can do this.
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Awwww. Love these two scenes. Very touching. And Regina looks beautiful.
ReplyDeleteLana Parrilla is an evil, evil woman. That second sneak peek slayed me, she really makes it impossible NOT to feel Regina's heartbreak right along with her. I hope the story behind page 23 is going to come into play some more this season and I also keep hoping it won't take the writers too long to let Robin Hood find a way back to Storybrooke. The way they seperated him and Regina in 4.11 was just cruel. I want to see those two reunite soon.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's all there is for 7 episodes so enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteIt is hope Regina. Believe it. And like Snow says.... happy ending starts with hope.
ReplyDeleteEmma and Regina kinda friendship progression looking good.
It was necessary. Sean was working on another film, so he needed to leave OUAT for a while ^^ But yeah he will come back :)
ReplyDeleteOutlaw Queen feels UGH Lana is so awesome.
ReplyDeleteI love the two of them as friends - as well as the repaired relationship between Regina & Snow.<3
ReplyDelete7? There's still 11 left to air this season.
ReplyDeleteWait, didn't Regina tear that page apart in the mid-season finale?
ReplyDeleteAnd it looks like she taped it up lol
ReplyDeleteWhen the hell did they get so chummy...
ReplyDeleteYeah she did. Pff, that makes no sense.
ReplyDeleteLook at the page again, it's been put back together.
ReplyDeleteRegina tore up that page in the winter finale, and she pieced it back together? That's a bit ridiculous... But anyway, loved the first sneak peek. Emma & Regina really work well together.
ReplyDeleteOh wow, Regina put the book picture of her and Robin Hood back together! The way her voice breaks when she says she hasn't heard of him so far.... aww damn, this hurts, but the moment of their reunion will be extra special and emotional after all this.
ReplyDeleteMakes perfect sense. It's all she has left of Robin - so of course she'd go back and piece it back together.
ReplyDeleteHope can be a powerful thing, people don't normally realise until the lose it so it makes sense she wanted it back.
ReplyDeleteRegina changed Mary Margaret's parrot image. LOL.
ReplyDeleteSorry I'm the only one not to comment about Swan Queen.
Well said Len Jones. :) About Regina and also Hook.
ReplyDeleteI DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PAGE, THIS IS SWAN QUEEN
ReplyDeleteLOOK HOW THEY ARE WITH EACH OTHER
THIS IS HAPPENING
Lmao I hope she says something sarcy about that!
ReplyDeleteRegina and Emma have the most interesting relationship on the show in my opinion. Love how they are with Henry too. :) Swan Queen fan here sorry. xD I hope to see a lot of them. I don't mind some action too! Especially Emma with a sword or her magic.
ReplyDeleteWhen I started watching Once Upon a Time I never ever expected I would become so invested in the character who was originally "the Evil Queen". Lana Parrilla is the best actress on OUaT for me, hands down. I'm so amazed with the layers she gives Regina and when Regina cries I want to cry with her. It is hard for Regina to have hope now, but I believe there IS still hope for Regina and Robin and in the end true love will prevail.
ReplyDeleteI really wish they didn't do the 6-week time jump! I hope they do some flashbacks to that night, there's a bunch going on! Belle after she sends Rumple away, Emma & Hook's reunion, the author's house, and Rumple outside of Storybrooke.
ReplyDeleteAwesome, they are finally having normal conversations and being friends!
ReplyDeletesweetheart, they do have chemistry, as well as a lot of actors/characters on this show, but it's so not going to happen. sorry.
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree!!
ReplyDeleteSwan Queen is the best thing in this show with Rumbelle, actually, one of the two only good things left.
ReplyDeleteIt will be like this:
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No with Rumbelle, but if I had to ship a crack ship I might with SQ, but I adore OQ.
ReplyDeleteAmazing scenes together, but I guess I really am one here who's still hoping for Regina to be pregnant..
ReplyDeleteThey really do have amazing chemistry, but not in a sexual way and look beautiful here. Lana is such a good actress.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely love their dynamic, awesome!
ReplyDeleteLOL. No, I'm kinda sorta with you on that ... :-) But either way, I think 4B is going to be one of the best seasons so far ...
ReplyDeleteI feel there's something very wrong about that page which picture Regina
ReplyDeletehappy. I never saw it as hope that Regina could be happy because in my mind If
there's established rules created by an all powerful entity who decides the fate
of the protagonist even the change that Regina is desperately trying to do to
be good won't matter. I believe this is an alternate version of the book where
the villains have their happy ending and heroes don't which is clearly the
theme of this second part of the season. This would explain why this picture
took place in the past because in my opinion changing the book will rewrite time.
I KNOOOOW. I nearly cried. And I don't do that!! And from a sneak peek ... COME ON!!
ReplyDeletePost the Frozen Fever trailer to the site.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQRLVxZHKPs
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ReplyDeleteNo wonder the guys at Tvline liked their scenes best. The chemistry is off the charts.
ReplyDeleteAll i know is that i missed Emma Swan!!!!! <3 i love her!
ReplyDeleteDrinking buddies !
ReplyDeleteYou know I try to limit my shipping for OUAT because I know SQ has like a 0,0001% to happen and it's kinda ok because I also just love the characters, their dynamic and the family relationships of the show but these two seek peak DAMN.
ReplyDeleteThey're just so perfect :D the acting, the chemistry, this new friendship.... the snark, bringing Regina a her freaking lunch, drinking buddies, Regina openning to Emma.... everything is just of the chart when those two share a scene <3
sorry, i didn't know you write the show
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad they finally have Emma and Regina as friends. Now they can work on the Emma/Snow relationship. Honestly every time they truly deviate (as in skip several episodes) from the Emma/Regina, Emma/Snow and Snow/Regina relationships I feel like the sow has really suffered. It's lacked an emotional anchor for a while now and after the Frozen disaster I really hope the characters can actually change and become more fleshed out. Especially poor Emma.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to be rude, but the actual writers had said like couple of times already, that they are not writing the show in that direction...
ReplyDeleteNot to be mean, but... the writers and actors have said many times that SQ will not happen. EVER. Friends? Sure. But there is NOT ever going to be a romantic relationship between these two very heterosexual women who have such a complicated past that even if they WERE gay, they'd never be able to have a healthy relationship. I do find it a bit offensive that the second we have a strong female character she has to be gay though. Just because women like men does not make them weak.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt people ship them because they consider women liking men weak...
ReplyDeleteEh, I don't really care for Regina and Emma as friends- not enemies great, but beyond that... I cringed when Emma forced herself on her in the crypt, so much abuse and whitewashing of bad things. I hope it doesn't stop getting Regina/Mal time (so excited to have her back!) and Regina/Snow and Regina/Rumple (and eventual OQ)- the latter two have always been my core relationship interest, I'm sad the way Snow was set aside some. I know baby leave, hopefully she comes more forefront and more bandit style! I've pretty much felt from day one the less Emma, the better, lol. Not my cup of hero, fated because of your parents, white magic even when you do some really horrible things, hm, yeah, lovely messaging.
ReplyDeleteGAL PALS.
ReplyDelete"STRAIGHT" OUT OF SWAN QUEEN FANFICTION. JUST YA KNOW. GAL PALS BEING GAL PALS.
ReplyDeleteim just. gunna go sobbbb now. poor regina :((((
ReplyDeleteIt's not her,it was Mindy from Mindy Project if you're refring to the Blind Item.
ReplyDeleteNo.Adam & Eddy have said SQwill never gphappen and niether character has shown that they're gay or bi.Plus,Regina is with Robin-who's her soulmate,one true live btw-and Emma is with Hook.
ReplyDeleteAwwwh. Swan Queen bonding. Love these two together. Sunday couldn't come soon enough!
ReplyDeleteyes trying to be friends with a woman that cursed an entire realm just because she was sad, a total normal and okay relationship yay! geez
ReplyDeleteI have this rediculous idea that page 23 actually happened. Rumple of course found out and in order to keep his monster changed their memories. Also to get back at robin hood for stealing from him. Then my other rediculous idea is lily I'd their kid. I know this is probably not the case but hey ya never know.
ReplyDeletedo phones work when you're calling from any place other than Storybrooke LOL
ReplyDeleteLOL Emma
ReplyDeleteI lost interest at "and there's only one way to see it"
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ReplyDeleteSo you really think it could happen?Funny when we know that both of the characters are heterosexual and that Emma has Hook and Regina has Robin (her soulmate by the way) sorry but "swanqueen" won't ever happen besides it would make no sense
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ReplyDeleteI know the blind item was not for OUAT, but that does not rule anything our for other shows. We'll see.
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ReplyDeleteHah. I wondered about that too ... Does the curse on the townline make it impossible to call? And how do they even get groceries from when no one can enter? ;-)
ReplyDeleteDo I think it will happen? I don't know what direction they'll take it. Do I think it could happen? Absolutely. The writers of the show can do whatever they want. It's their world, they get to decide where the characters end up. I've attached a list I've made of movies and tv shows with LGBT+ characters that actually had canonical straight relationships before they discovered or came out as LGBT+ (Also notice that 'Happily Divorced' is based on true story. It's completely valid to have heterosexual relationships and still being gay/bi; bisexuals exist, no matter how majestic they may seem to you they are not unicorns.)
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what your soulmate argument is trying to accomplish. It's also canon that Daniel was Regina's soulmate. An exact quote from 3x03 Quite a Common Fairy "You're gonna help me find another soulmate?" "It is possible to find love again." Now I'm not sure what your level of comprehension is when it comes to the English language so allow me to add the definition of the word 'another'. Another - 1.used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further; 2.used to refer to a different person or thing from one already mentioned or known about. Interesting that a person can have more than one soulmate and more than one true love. Multiple characters have had more than one true love already. There's no reason for Robin to be the end all be all. Tink even says "It is possible to find love again" while referencing the loss of a soulmate. She flat out stated that you can move on from a soulmate and be happy with someone else. Regina and Robin are no exception. If the writers wanted to, the relationship can stay over with no conflict to canon.
Now whether your "it would make no sense" is based on your hetero argument or soulmate argument, both of which I've already dealt with, or is based on the fact that you can't see the potential of two people who once thought that they'd be destined to destroy each other finding common ground from sharing a true love, their son, and then growing to care about each other...Well if the later is what you were referring to then I don't have time to right out every reason and parallel but I suggest you take a deeper look. Eddy Kitsis said "Regina and Emma want the same thing. They want love, and they want family, and they want home." It's not a big leap that they could find that with each other.
Besides if we're talking about relationships that don't make sense. Regina and Robin said 842 words to each other before they kissed (not counting the missing year since they didn't remember it at the time they kissed & besides they hardly talked in that year anyway); that's it 842, the average words per minute is 150-160 in speech. That's 5 and a half minutes of development for their relationship and I'm supposed to believe it's true love?! That made no sense, their relationship had no development and no basis other than people wanting Regina to finally have a boyfriend. They didn't take time to build a foundation and then 4A was a train wreck that served no purpose other than making Robin look like a horrible human being. That's a relationship that doesn't make sense. Regina and Emma have spent years getting to know each other, there's actual development between the characters. If having two characters that have spent 4 seasons interacting makes less sense to you than a relationship that went all in after 842 words, I just don't know how else to explain it to you.
I desperately hope not. The baby Neal story is horrifyingly bad and I don't want Regina stuck with bad baby tropes as a storyline.
ReplyDeleteToo late. Already happened in my head!
ReplyDeleteIt can mean to used to mean misuse something, such as power, a situation, etc.. Not necessarily violence towards a person. Though there has been violence between the two. I do feel Emma, if unintentionally, often does things as much for her self, more than actually at the core thinking about others. (Snow too.) About their version of happiness for someone, what makes them feel good. And as the "savior" the characters are prone to let her, and that can lead to some bad things.
ReplyDeleteLove that the wall says "Magister" which means "teacher or master" in Latin
ReplyDeleteFinally! I was loosing hope in search for something not SQ related (this theme always escalates). :D
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you for the hint. I did not notice it before. ;)
That nearly killed me, too. Poor Regina. Maybe Robin doesn't know how to reach her.
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt Regina will be pregnant
ReplyDeleteYou'll find Sara only means it as the definition states and nothing less.
ReplyDeleteSorry but yes I understand the meaning of the word "another" even though I'm french. And for the record most of the people who watch the show aren't even aware of the existence of your ship so I doubt the writers would suddenly make those 2 characters bi (or gay) I have nothing against gay couples in tv shows I even happen to like some of them but Regina and Emma simply aren't meant to be together in that way (but I really like them as friends). As for relationship development you can think that OQ was rushed but a lot of people don't share that opinion and I bet that you're also against CS but you can't say the same thing for them since it's obvious that their relationship took a lot of time to develop into mutual love. you say that Regina and Emma have spent years getting to know each other???Really???They hated each other to death for the whole first season,most of season 2 they didn't get along but they tried only for Henry and for most of season 3 they haven't really bonded especially when Emma brought Marian back.Btw she told Robin that the only 2 people that believe in her are him and Henry,that may not be the truth (because now the charmings kind of believe in her too)but it's what she feels so no you don't have to explain to me what you see in them that would make you think they could become a couple.You shouldn't hold on to them too much because you'll probably end up disappointed
ReplyDeleteThe general audiences' awareness of potential storylines have no impact on what the storylines will be, in fact that kind of negates the entire purpose of a show because everyone would already know the story they're telling. The show is meant to tell the audience the story, it's subversive and you're along for the ride. Do you think the audience was aware of the potential Robin/Regina relationship before they shoe-horned the pixie dust in 3x03? No. Nobody except the people in the writers room knew that was the plan. That didn't stop them from making that storyline happen, because they decide what the twist and turns will be and the audience learns about them as the show progresses. Of course many plot twists are guessed by people in the fandom but most members of the general audience don't put that much thought into it. Do you think they guessed most of the romantic relationships that aren't famous from fairytales? Did they know about Cora/Gold before it happened, Will/Anastasia, etc. Or the other twists the GA weren't aware of: Baelfire being Henry's dad, Pan being Gold's dad, Ingrid being Emma's foster mom, Zelena being Regina's sister, etc. All of these things, whether speculated and believed within fandom or not, were not something the GA considered but happened anyway.
ReplyDeleteYou also shouldn't assume what I think about CS, I didn't mention it in my argument about relationships that don't make sense because I don't have a problem watching it. Are there some things I wish they had done differently? Yes, but there are many CSers I know that wish things were different with there ship. Even if CS isn't my favorite or preferred ship I can stand watching it. But CS and it's development has nothing to do with OQ and my issues with it.
would truly like to hear Emma call Regina Grams and see them clubbing together. As for torn page if it were in book Emma would not be.
ReplyDeleteI love it when they have these specials before premieres :)
ReplyDeleteAnother thought is Robin pissed off Malefiscent for stealing her mirror and she took her revenge on Marianne forcing Robin to go after the wand to heal Marianne only he stole the wrong wand. Other theory is Blue interceded and that is why Robin looks different when at Rumple's. The picture can not have happened as if it happens and they have a child the war between Snow and Regina would end and Emma would not be born as Snow and David would never meet. There is also a theory that Paige is Jefferson and Regina's child. I am waiting for the supposed Graham and Regina child. Guessing there will not be any of them. Too contrived.My thought is Robin was sent to pick up the black wand and grabbed the yellow wand by mistake. As Robin is not magical the black wand would not have worked for him. The wand did work but thinking not too well. Again this is getting a bit contrived but the black wand could have belonged to Maleficent or it could have belonged to Blue and in time Blue is the one possessing the black wand. Thinking Robin blamed Mariane's death on his being cursed by Maleficent. Think Anastasia is missing too and that is why Will is town. Time to make amends. Then again Blue was the one upset over Tink showing Regina Robin so only she knew that was a problem, not Rumple. Keep working on your thought but it seems more likely the page is not as suspicious as the bag it game out of or the fact Will found it. Time will tell.
ReplyDelete*Malefiscent
ReplyDeleteOUaT s04e12 "Darkness On The Edge Of Town" - March 1, 2015
*Rumpbelle
OUaT s04e13 "Unforgiven" - March 8, 2015
*Mulan
OUaT s04e14 "Enter The Dragon" - March 15, 2015
*Ursula
OUaT s04e15 "Poor Unfortunate Soul" - March 22, 2015
OUaT s04e16 "Best Laid Plans" - March 29, 2015
*Emma/ Relates to Heart of Darkness and Snow
OUaT s04e17 "Heart of Gold" - April 05, 2015
*Cruella
OUaT s04e18 "Sympathy for the De Vil" - April 12, 2015
* No telling
OUaT s04e19 "Lily" - April 19, 2015
OUaT s04e20 "TBA" - May 26, 2015
OUaT s04e21 "TBA" - May 03, 2015
OUaT s04e22 "TBA" - May 10, 2015
you lost me in the Killian stuff. His story is not one of a lack of hope but of a desire for revenge, as in a century is long enough to seek payback. His relationship with Emma is true love as signified when he placed Snows ring on Emma's finger, true love follows that ring. As for the page, Snow speaks and the page appears as in it is possible to change the past but if that page enters the book it alters all subsequent events including Snow meeting David and having Emma who has Henry withe the deceased Neal. If she thinks about it Emma is Regina's happy ending, a person you accepts the bad in her and cares for her none the less.This is not to say Robin and Regina have no place together but it is to say a happy ending is not the same for all. For Regina it may be as simple as family, she wanted Hansel and Gretel, She wanted Owen, She wanted Henry, never wanting Snow but that is all the more reason to want Emma who has magic and needs a mentor, a friend and a grandmother if she thinks about it.
ReplyDeleteCould be it pieced itself together and is following her
ReplyDeletethe painting replaced the mirror that exploded when Regina felt her heart break over Robin
ReplyDeleteDid you ever had your heart broken and acted sensible? I remember having done quite some illogical things. :D
ReplyDeleteOf course her first reaction was to tear the page apart when he left but she probably regreted it. Maybe the page is about hope and Robin. They are connected in Regina's world, I suppose.
Quick Regina needs a hug! Who wants to be the first?
ReplyDeleteYes. That poor woman definitely hasn't been hugged enough. Ever.
ReplyDeleteSo...Regina and Emma are pretending that they're married?
ReplyDeleteYeah. Her childhood must have been lonley and cold. She needs so many hugs to make up for that...
ReplyDeleteIs that an idea for a fanfic or what do you want to say? o_O
ReplyDeleteOooo...SwanQueen. So much better than OutlawQueen. Please, PLEASE, get rid of Robin.
ReplyDeleteMy problems with Robin:
- Robin goes back and forth between
two women: Regina and Marion. One who is his "true love", and one is the
mother of his child. He doesn't come out and tell Marion that he's
fallen in love with another person, he just talks to Regina behind her
back. We saw this with David, Snow, and Kathryn. Most people generally
agree that David was kind of a cad during this, and there's no
difference between that instance and this one.
- Robin cheats on his
wife. He might be in love with Regina, but have a little respect and
wait until you break it off with Marion. I understand that she's frozen,
and might be that way indefinitely. Why don't you wait at least a few weeks to see.
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Robin goes to see Regina in her lair, and "be with her". In doing this
he's interrupting Regina from trying to find a way to save his wife. You
know, the woman who's frozen. He even leaves his son with friends while
an evil sorceress is flitting about Storybrooke, so that he can do
this.