I really don't like Ray with the suit. I don't know, I think I'd be alot happier if he was just another bad guy. He's too nerd to be another crime fighter. Do we really need it?
Oh that would be awesome. I also wonder what does the league think of Laurel dressing as the Canary, does it break any rules?
I kinda love the idea of Laurel being so outclassed here, hopefully Nyssa will keep an eye on her. Also if she does learn of Sara's fate, would her opinion on the punishment matter to the LoA? would it be a way to lift the blame from Thea, if she were to forgive her/not place the blame on her?
Doubt it, cause the League was Sara's family. They promised a game changer, so I wouldn't be surprised if L joins the League in her quest against Malcolm.
At last we get more Ra's Al Ghul. I think Thea tells Laurel about her killing Sara and they both hand Malcolm to Nyssa. If that is the case go ladies!! Why on earth would Oliver go to save him still boggles my mind. I hope there is a good explanation. Ray's suit looked more cooler in the photos than in these promos. He looks uncomfortable somehow.
Am I dreaming or is that Diggle in the field with a machine gun. Somebody pinch me. I think I shed a tear.
Arrow trying to do too much in 42 mins is always a problem. That's why when we get episodes like Return it feels so good. Concentrated story telling about Thea and Oliver. Well let's hope this episode is not chaotic. Why be negative before watching it. After all SA and MG sounds very very excited about this one.
I think they are definately expected because moving forward is going to be big and I think Marc says something other show have not done before or something like that.
I think LoA will try to take Malcolm, the helicopter scene, and Team Arrow will try to stop it, and Nyssa will stop Laurel by telling her they are taking him cause he killed Sara. Dam da dam.
MG has really amped up my expectations. I hope he delivers and this episode leaves my mouth hanging open. Since watching HTGAWM and AC who delivers episodes with great story lines and twists Arrow needs to really amp up their game to make me shocked.
only reason I see why Oliver considers saving Malcom is, despite everything Malcom is the only parent left of Thea. It looks like Thea is selling out Malcom to the LoA and maybe he fears she could repent that.
lose and getting beaten up are pretty much the same things, aren't they? If you mean that Laurel will win, yeah, that would be ridiculous indeed. Her getting beaten up on the other side is the best part of her character.
If Thea actually did sell out Malcolm to the League of Assassins, that would be awesome. That's my girl! And Diggle out in the field!! Nyssa! Atom debut! Wednesday can't come soon enough.
I think we are supposed to swallow what Malcolm said in ep. 09. When Oliver told him he will tell the truth to Ra's Malcolm said he will still kill Thea as it was her arrow that killed Sara.
The problem with that is I don't trust a word coming out of Malcolm's mouth. How can we be sure Ra's will be irrational and kill an innocent girl for Malcolm's crimes? So Oliver now believes that and he wants Malcolm on his side to defeat Ra's. Our idiot hero boy.
That is a flimsy argument. Why would Oliver even want Malcolm as a father figure for Thea. Why even consider Malcolm as a father. Most probably you will turn out to be right and I will be rolling my eyes at the screen.
At least Digg has a semi-automatic rifle! What will Roy and Laurel do against the League? I'm serious, Roy got his ass kicked by DJ Moron... What can Laurel do there?
If Laurel and Roy defeat a league member i will turn off my tv... i'm serious!
The problem is that there really is no way for Oliver and Thea to prove to Ras that she was thinking under Malcolm's influence so I can see why Oliver would not want to take that risk. Although it Malcolm is turned over Ras by Laurel or Thea, I'm not sure there'd be much point to rescuing him then. The damage would be done already.
For me it seems like Laurel is at that rooftop. L is part of Team A and probably just happy to do something, especially with Quentin bitchin. And not bringing her with them would raise suspicion.
well I would go with it if he just did not want Malcoms death beeing on Theas schoulders, because he fears she could regret it (oh an overprotective Oliver.....not sure either if I am going to like that).
What's funny? The fighting? It's exhausting! Seriously I get so bored just reading the comments. The same arguments over and over. But if Laurel does win the Arrow section will explode lol
That's what's funny! at least at first, eventually I get bored of reading the same thing over and over again, but only the number of comments always makes me laugh. When I see so much activity on an Arrow thread, even before reading, I know it's either Laurel or Olicity related, only those subjects elicit that much passion on the Arrow fandom. I not it's not nice to make fun of others distress, but I really can't help it, it's the haters, I really hate haters so I enjoy it, LOL.
Well lately Ray took over lol some of the 500+ comment threads are about him lol I have to admit I contribute in them sometimes. But in my defence I'm not just throwing hate for the sake of hating him or because of shipping. That character genuinely disturbs me. And I only comment if it's a real discussion but if it turns into a pointless argument/fight, that's when I ignore the whole thing. It's not worth wasting time or energy. It could be fun at first but after comment #173 I get really bored and zone out haha
You're right! I can't believe I forgot Ray! Hardcore Oliciters feel thereatened by him, although I think they wanted to use Arrow as a steping Stone and then give him his own spin off. TBH I really feel bad for the guy, his fate was decided the moment they made him a love interest for Felicity. I mean, seriosuly? with the way shippers are in this fandom if a character to succed you DO NOT make them under any circumtance a love interest for either Oliver or Felicity, otherwise he'll just be hated for the sake of existing. Now, I don't mind Ray, I like his interactions with Felicity (I say Felicity becaus she's the only character he's really interacted with), sure I could've done without the stalkery vibe, but Brandon makes funny and quirky so I let it slide. Still the poor guy never had a chance, he was DOA by poor planning.
Well in all honesty his fan reaction is no different from SV's Jimmy or Lois in fact it reminds me very much of Jimmy so I don't really seeing the writers or TPTB being all that surprised in fact they probably saw it coming way b4 the character even was cast or said one line. I like when my favorite is hated it means peeps know who my guy or gal is to the show and story. Besides my all-time favorite OTPs are/wvere some of the most hated pairings around so Olaurel/GreenCanary fits right in..
I'm a hardcore Oliciter (as everybody in this site know lol) and I don't feel threatened by him. I don't mind if Felicity gets a love interest. It's the CW so it was bound to happen sooner or later. And I know that Oliver and Felicity will get together eventually, so I don't care. My problem with the Felicity/Ray romance angle is how disturbing it can be. He's a stalker, creepy, pushy and doesn't have any boundaries (not to mention how obnoxious he can be when he keeps bragging about how much money he has) and they are romanticizing that and trying to make it look charming. And that's why I hate him. Not because he was introduced as a love interest. Barry was introduced as a love interest for her too and I l LOVED him. I even enjoyed his scenes with Felicity in episode 4 of The Flash. The writers really failed in writing him. Barry was so lovable and even though he was only in 2 episodes he interacted with twice as many people as Ray had in what? 10 episodes now?
They have way too many characters and storylines and they can't handle them. Just imagine the amazing Diggle/HIVE story we could've gotten instead of all that time wasted on Ray stalking Felicity, bragging about his bank accounts to criminals, looking at blueprints or tightening bolts in his suit.
I wouldn't worry :/ at the end of the day they all go back to their vision and this being a comic book adaption makes this even more true. And they did give Laurel her story it just took longer than I expected for my girl to take her ISH back lol
John Barrowman's character needs to die and stay dead. I hate him. But they do need older characters in this show so bring on 50+ year old character actors of all shapes, sizes and shades! And please re-dress the evil yellow people/martial artists that teach Oliver valuable lessons thing. It is getting old and offensive.
I'm liking BC Laurel, but it's unlikely her character can fully recover, they threw her under a bus when it served them right and now it's too late, theirs too much hate, and they don't know how to stand by their vission, their characters and their actors. I don't have much faith in them left.
TOO MANY. The way they've thrown Diggle in the backburner is sad, he deserved much better, and don't even get me started on what they've done to Thea, Roy is practically wallpaper, but that I don't mind because Colton can't act to save his life... They really have to stop with the new characters and focus on what we already have.
The flash is going for 3, but one week earlier. Given that both series have the same number of episodes I think, Arrow would have also a 3 week break and return one week later.
But if the Flash has a 22 ep season, I'm thinking Arrow will only go on a 2 week break.
Not to belittle what u feel or fear but this is nature of the beast n no one was hated more than my boy Dan Humphrey and my boy ended up with it all. The Laurel hate is what fuels the fire for that reason girlie will prevail n that as long as she is hated she will stay in the forefront because writers/networks love nothing more than a character brings this kind of passion.
Both are coming back on the same week. So from now on Flash will be one episode behind Arrow. I don't know how it will work timeline wise with all the crossovers. Maybe after next episode time travel The Flash might jump one week ahead with Barry loosing some time.
I hated Thea for most of this season. Roy is usually just standing around shaking his head or brooding and lately the only time he speaks is to recite what Thea is thinking.
I agree. The old characters are already too much we don't need more. Dig and Quentin have been brutally mistreated this season.
Yeah, cause they are both 23 episodes, so IDK, will Arrow end one week early? This could lead to an scenario where Barry tries to travel in time and lands a year in the future and we get a glimpse of Starling City in the Flash episode? IDK at all!!
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I am not able to view the video? I couldn't view the other shorter preview either. Same thing for Flash. Did you change something???
ReplyDeleteoh look Diggle in the field with his military rifle!
ReplyDeleteI realized is the crotch area what's not working on the atom suit for me, it looks naked? Maybe it would need a codpiece?
ReplyDeleteSpringboard just updated their player. Can you email your problem to support@spoilertv.com and we'll look into it.
ReplyDeleteOnly Arrow can make "Nandu Parbat" episode about the ATOM suit. Terrible.
ReplyDeleteThink Laurel will find out about Thea killing Sara this week. This should be interesting!
God, i really don't care about his suit. Other than that, this looks pretty good. I want to see Nyssa.
ReplyDeleteThe updated player has been a problem.
ReplyDeleteBeen having the same problems. As have others.
ReplyDeleteHell you talking about? For all you know Ray Palmer could have about 4 minutes screen time.
ReplyDeleteI meant the promo. But either way introducing the suit here is completely out of place + I assume he'll safe the day.
ReplyDeleteI really don't like Ray with the suit. I don't know, I think I'd be alot happier if he was just another bad guy. He's too nerd to be another crime fighter. Do we really need it?
ReplyDeleteOh that would be awesome. I also wonder what does the league think of Laurel dressing as the Canary, does it break any rules?
ReplyDeleteI kinda love the idea of Laurel being so outclassed here, hopefully Nyssa will keep an eye on her. Also if she does learn of Sara's fate, would her opinion on the punishment matter to the LoA? would it be a way to lift the blame from Thea, if she were to forgive her/not place the blame on her?
Can you email to support@spoilertv.com as well?
ReplyDeleteDoubt it, cause the League was Sara's family.
ReplyDeleteThey promised a game changer, so I wouldn't be surprised if L joins the League in her quest against Malcolm.
At last we get more Ra's Al Ghul. I think Thea tells Laurel about her killing Sara and they both hand Malcolm to Nyssa. If that is the case go ladies!! Why on earth would Oliver go to save him still boggles my mind. I hope there is a good explanation. Ray's suit looked more cooler in the photos than in these promos. He looks uncomfortable somehow.
ReplyDeleteAm I dreaming or is that Diggle in the field with a machine gun. Somebody pinch me. I think I shed a tear.
This is suppose to be a game changer episode so it will all make sense by end of this episode
ReplyDeleteI hope the explanation is good enough. Looks like a jam packed episode.
ReplyDeleteI hope the episode is longer than usual because it won't be able to jam everything in one episode especially with Palmer have at 5 mins of screentime
ReplyDeleteArrow trying to do too much in 42 mins is always a problem. That's why when we get episodes like Return it feels so good. Concentrated story telling about Thea and Oliver. Well let's hope this episode is not chaotic. Why be negative before watching it. After all SA and MG sounds very very excited about this one.
ReplyDeleteI think they are definately expected because moving forward is going to be big and I think Marc says something other show have not done before or something like that.
ReplyDeleteI think LoA will try to take Malcolm, the helicopter scene, and Team Arrow will try to stop it, and Nyssa will stop Laurel by telling her they are taking him cause he killed Sara. Dam da dam.
ReplyDeletewhat reason would Team Arrow stop the LOA from taking Malcolm.......
ReplyDeleteThat could be possible. But I can't see Laurel wanting to go save Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteMG has really amped up my expectations. I hope he delivers and this episode leaves my mouth hanging open. Since watching HTGAWM and AC who delivers episodes with great story lines and twists Arrow needs to really amp up their game to make me shocked.
ReplyDeleteDon't know. I don't even know why Malcolm is alive atm.
ReplyDeleteBut it seems like Ollie is fighting Nyssa on the rooftop and Laurel seems to be there as well.
well everyone have a different view when consider what is "shock"
ReplyDeleteEither Laurel will fight a league member and lose which is ridiculous or she will get beaten up which I'm so tired of seeing.
ReplyDeleteI still hate the suit.
only reason I see why Oliver considers saving Malcom is, despite everything Malcom is the only parent left of Thea. It looks like Thea is selling out Malcom to the LoA and maybe he fears she could repent that.
ReplyDeletelose and getting beaten up are pretty much the same things, aren't they? If you mean that Laurel will win, yeah, that would be ridiculous indeed. Her getting beaten up on the other side is the best part of her character.
ReplyDeleteYeah I meant win. Thanks for the heads up.
ReplyDeleteI agree lol
Maybe Malcolm's survival is connected to Thea's in some way. Yeah I like that theory. I'm sticking with it.
ReplyDeleteIf Thea actually did sell out Malcolm to the League of Assassins, that would be awesome. That's my girl! And Diggle out in the field!! Nyssa! Atom debut! Wednesday can't come soon enough.
ReplyDeleteThis Malcolm crap is getting too confusing to me.
ReplyDeleteI think we are supposed to swallow what Malcolm said in ep. 09. When Oliver told him he will tell the truth to Ra's Malcolm said he will still kill Thea as it was her arrow that killed Sara.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with that is I don't trust a word coming out of Malcolm's mouth. How can we be sure Ra's will be irrational and kill an innocent girl for Malcolm's crimes? So Oliver now believes that and he wants Malcolm on his side to defeat Ra's. Our idiot hero boy.
That is a flimsy argument. Why would Oliver even want Malcolm as a father figure for Thea. Why even consider Malcolm as a father. Most probably you will turn out to be right and I will be rolling my eyes at the screen.
ReplyDeleteAnd just before a mini hiatus, I'm excited, and fearful
ReplyDeleteIt really isn't working at all.
ReplyDeleteNope
ReplyDeleteHow many weeks break do we have after this episode? 2 or 3.
ReplyDeleteThat's because we are yet to see Ra's being evil other than skewering a few dudes for whatever reason.
ReplyDeletehahahahaha so true. Seriously Ra's is coming off as an admirable guy it kind of makes me mad that they want to kill him lol
ReplyDelete3 weeks.
ReplyDeleteYou can find the air dates here
http://stvplus.com/show/245/Arrow#episodes
At least Digg has a semi-automatic rifle! What will Roy and Laurel do against the League? I'm serious, Roy got his ass kicked by DJ Moron... What can Laurel do there?
ReplyDeleteIf Laurel and Roy defeat a league member i will turn off my tv... i'm serious!
The problem is that there really is no way for Oliver and Thea to prove to Ras that she was thinking under Malcolm's influence so I can see why Oliver would not want to take that risk. Although it Malcolm is turned over Ras by Laurel or Thea, I'm not sure there'd be much point to rescuing him then. The damage would be done already.
ReplyDeleteFor me it seems like Laurel is at that rooftop. L is part of Team A and probably just happy to do something, especially with Quentin bitchin.
ReplyDeleteAnd not bringing her with them would raise suspicion.
Watch out guys. Dig is in the field. Its gonna be awesome!
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'm a bit confused. Is all of Team Arrow and Thea going to Nanda Parbat or just Oliver?
ReplyDeleteI couldn't care less about Ray/Atom. Go away, please.
ReplyDeletewell I would go with it if he just did not want Malcoms death beeing on Theas schoulders, because he fears she could regret it (oh an overprotective Oliver.....not sure either if I am going to like that).
ReplyDeleteWell, I for one am rooting for Laurel to win if only to see all the haters go at it. You have to admit, it's funny ;-)
ReplyDeleteWhat's funny? The fighting? It's exhausting! Seriously I get so bored just reading the comments. The same arguments over and over. But if Laurel does win the Arrow section will explode lol
ReplyDeleteThat's what's funny! at least at first, eventually I get bored of reading the same thing over and over again, but only the number of comments always makes me laugh. When I see so much activity on an Arrow thread, even before reading, I know it's either Laurel or Olicity related, only those subjects elicit that much passion on the Arrow fandom. I not it's not nice to make fun of others distress, but I really can't help it, it's the haters, I really hate haters so I enjoy it, LOL.
ReplyDeleteWell lately Ray took over lol some of the 500+ comment threads are about him lol I have to admit I contribute in them sometimes. But in my defence I'm not just throwing hate for the sake of hating him or because of shipping. That character genuinely disturbs me. And I only comment if it's a real discussion but if it turns into a pointless argument/fight, that's when I ignore the whole thing. It's not worth wasting time or energy.
ReplyDeleteIt could be fun at first but after comment #173 I get really bored and zone out haha
You're right! I can't believe I forgot Ray! Hardcore Oliciters feel thereatened by him, although I think they wanted to use Arrow as a steping Stone and then give him his own spin off. TBH I really feel bad for the guy, his fate was decided the moment they made him a love interest for Felicity. I mean, seriosuly? with the way shippers are in this fandom if a character to succed you DO NOT make them under any circumtance a love interest for either Oliver or Felicity, otherwise he'll just be hated for the sake of existing.
ReplyDeleteNow, I don't mind Ray, I like his interactions with Felicity (I say Felicity becaus she's the only character he's really interacted with), sure I could've done without the stalkery vibe, but Brandon makes funny and quirky so I let it slide. Still the poor guy never had a chance, he was DOA by poor planning.
Well in all honesty his fan reaction is no different from SV's Jimmy or Lois in fact it reminds me very much of Jimmy so I don't really seeing the writers or TPTB being all that surprised in fact they probably saw it coming way b4 the character even was cast or said one line. I like when my favorite is hated it means peeps know who my guy or gal is to the show and story. Besides my all-time favorite OTPs are/wvere some of the most hated pairings around so Olaurel/GreenCanary fits right in..
ReplyDeleteI'm a hardcore Oliciter (as everybody in this site know lol) and I don't feel threatened by him. I don't mind if Felicity gets a love interest. It's the CW so it was bound to happen sooner or later. And I know that Oliver and Felicity will get together eventually, so I don't care. My problem with the Felicity/Ray romance angle is how disturbing it can be. He's a stalker, creepy, pushy and doesn't have any boundaries (not to mention how obnoxious he can be when he keeps bragging about how much money he has) and they are romanticizing that and trying to make it look charming. And that's why I hate him. Not because he was introduced as a love interest. Barry was introduced as a love interest for her too and I l LOVED him. I even enjoyed his scenes with Felicity in episode 4 of The Flash. The writers really failed in writing him. Barry was so lovable and even though he was only in 2 episodes he interacted with twice as many people as Ray had in what? 10 episodes now?
ReplyDeleteThey have way too many characters and storylines and they can't handle them. Just imagine the amazing Diggle/HIVE story we could've gotten instead of all that time wasted on Ray stalking Felicity, bragging about his bank accounts to criminals, looking at blueprints or tightening bolts in his suit.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't worry :/ at the end of the day they all go back to their vision and this being a comic book adaption makes this even more true. And they did give Laurel her story it just took longer than I expected for my girl to take her ISH back lol
ReplyDeleteJohn Barrowman's character needs to die and stay dead. I hate him. But they do need older characters in this show so bring on 50+ year old character actors of all shapes, sizes and shades! And please re-dress the evil yellow people/martial artists that teach Oliver valuable lessons thing. It is getting old and offensive.
ReplyDeleteI'm liking BC Laurel, but it's unlikely her character can fully recover, they threw her under a bus when it served them right and now it's too late, theirs too much hate, and they don't know how to stand by their vission, their characters and their actors. I don't have much faith in them left.
ReplyDeleteTOO MANY. The way they've thrown Diggle in the backburner is sad, he deserved much better, and don't even get me started on what they've done to Thea, Roy is practically wallpaper, but that I don't mind because Colton can't act to save his life... They really have to stop with the new characters and focus on what we already have.
ReplyDeleteThe flash is going for 3, but one week earlier. Given that both series have the same number of episodes I think, Arrow would have also a 3 week break and return one week later.
ReplyDeleteBut if the Flash has a 22 ep season, I'm thinking Arrow will only go on a 2 week break.
I think they return on 17th and 18th March respectively.
ReplyDeleteNot to belittle what u feel or fear but this is nature of the beast n no one was hated more than my boy Dan Humphrey and my boy ended up with it all. The Laurel hate is what fuels the fire for that reason girlie will prevail n that as long as she is hated she will stay in the forefront because writers/networks love nothing more than a character brings this kind of passion.
ReplyDeleteI guess only time will tell ;-)
ReplyDeleteBoth are coming back on the same week. So from now on Flash will be one episode behind Arrow. I don't know how it will work timeline wise with all the crossovers. Maybe after next episode time travel The Flash might jump one week ahead with Barry loosing some time.
ReplyDeleteI hated Thea for most of this season. Roy is usually just standing around shaking his head or brooding and lately the only time he speaks is to recite what Thea is thinking.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The old characters are already too much we don't need more. Dig and Quentin have been brutally mistreated this season.
Yeah, cause they are both 23 episodes, so IDK, will Arrow end one week early? This could lead to an scenario where Barry tries to travel in time and lands a year in the future and we get a glimpse of Starling City in the Flash episode? IDK at all!!
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that is exactly what will happen when Palmer becomes ATOM, so I think that's a goo development.
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