Tommyyyyyyyyyy I didn't realize that I actually missed seeing Oliver on the island. Seriously Thea fighting Slade and wining? And isn't he in his cell? It looks awesome though.
Really looking forward to this episode! Thea and Ollie being stuck on Lian Yu with Slade (those scenes will be incredible), Flashbacks of Ollie in Starling City checking up on his family, Tommy (looking good!), and Laurel. There's a lot of potential here for it be one of the best episodes Arrow has ever done.
I'll believe she will make an appearence in the flashbacks, like a cameo. Diggle too. What would she do on a flashback or in the island? It's better not to force characters...
Maybe Oliver and Maseo see her or get some kind of help from her? And when Oliver goes "they told me you were the one to help me" on 1x03 was a lie, he already knew what she could do...
Other than that... I don't think we'll see her. And it's for the best... The worst they could do is to make a "Oliver sees Felicity and smiles without even knowing her" because at that point in the flashbacks Oliver was still hanging from the idea of Laurel.
I don't think she wins... She will try, fail, Ollie will come, defeat Slade and she will try to kill him... Pictures could be misleading. Just because she throws a punch at him doesn't mean he won't punch her hard in the head 2 seconds after blocking her try xD
I don't want that either. They made a big deal about the first time Oliver saw her in her office. If he already knew her before it'll ruin that scene for me.
It would make no sense Jajajaja I would be ok with Maseo maybe getting some help from her without knowing and tells Oliver there's a girl in your company that's quite good or some s**t like that... So he would remember and go sees her personally for the first time.
That's as much as i can handle... Hope she doesn't appears at all, tbh.
What if Merlyn and Slade have a deal, he delivers Thea closure with Slade letting himself take out by her or something? Minus the death thing (blank bullets)
Given that she's appearing on Flash the following week, it may have purposely been scheduled that she's absent from the episode so as to not burn out Emily. Similar to her being limited to an Arrow cameo appearance when she first guest starred on Flash
No amount of time or training negates the fact that Thea is five foot nothing and 90 pounds up against a brick wall like Slade Wilson with special forces training.
I'd really like to trade Malcolm for Slade right now. Oliver trains with Slade and Katana. That would be awesome. Oliver looking like Thea's classmate is just offensive.
the point of training with Merlyn is to defeat Ra's. only the student can hope to defeat the master. slade wasn't trained by the league of assassins. also he already trained oliver (as seen in the flashbacks)
Yeah, um, that logic is moronic. It is just the reason the writers gave us so that people would stop saying train with Katana. "Merlyn knows how to defeat Ra's." Sure he does, that's why he enacted a complicated plan to drug your sister and kill Sara so you'd fight Ra's for him. If Malcolm had any inside line into defeating Ra's he'd have used it already. What a student learns from a master is what a master already knows.
I didn't realize I actually missed Slade. I was like "Hey Slade, wanna come back and at least have a plan that makes sense? I mean your motivations are weaksauce, but solid plans, baby."
Oliver and Slade fights while Thea stands up after being beaten and picks up the gun... Doesn't mean she defeats him. It's just that she's pointing the gun,..
There's probably a few present day Starling scenes. This pictures just show the main stuff. Only way Felicity or Diggle would be in a flashback would be a cameo.
If the league were to train her (or any actual reputable organization that trains people in this manner), one of the first things they'd tell her is when you're up against someone who has severe advantages in height, weight, and wingspan don't get sucked into hand to hand combat because you'll lose.
Didn't say hand to hand dude. Plus where is the preparation in that? If you're gonna be a elite killer you have to know how to take on those bigger or stronger than you in a fight, whether it be through deception, weaponry or hand to hand. Though to be honest I think it'd be very, very close.
The hand-to-hand stipulation was the crux of the discussion we've been having.
I said "I don't think there's a reality where Thea doesn't end up dead in hand-to-hand combat with Slade." And you posited a scenario where you believed otherwise. Hand-to-hand has been at the center of this from the beginning. If it wasn't, what have we been talking about this whole time?
Quentin with hair, Thea with hair. so much hair!!! I wish they had made laurel the old brunette too some how. Laurel looks so much different from the pilot episode now. Is that Diggle Oliver passing by in the streets of Starling? So we will see Felicity in Oliver's orbit too. Sweet!
Slade sure looks creepy. He is going to taunt them both by talking about Moira. The handsome devil. To see Thea fighting Slade is ridiculous. Willa's hands are so small compared to Manu's.
well, it's the logic the show decided to go with. I don't think it's completely absurd. While Merlyn might not be able to be defeat Ra's, he could have some insight on him that could help Oliver if he were to face him again.
Just because that is the writers' reason they didn't use Katana doesn't mean I need to agree with it. But you are right, Malcolm *could* have some insight. Or he could continue offering excellent gems like "Ra's preys on your fears." Ra's defeated Oliver in a flat out sword fight. If anyone preyed on Oliver's fears it was Malcolm when he manipulated him into fighting Ra's in the first place.
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Oh boy this episode. Excited for Tommy`s return!!!
ReplyDeleteI have to say I know Merlyn taught Thea but if she puts up a big fight against Slade I will roll my eyes lol.
That Thea & Slade still? Jesus, show i hope you are not gonna try to tell us that Thea can take on Slade.
ReplyDeleteI guess Diggle and Felicity will be in the flashbacks as well
ReplyDeleteI don't think there's a reality where Thea doesn't end up dead in hand-to-hand combat with Slade.
ReplyDeletethat would be fun
ReplyDeleteSeriously? Thea against Slade? Hand to hand combat at that? I am rolling my eyes here.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't worry about slade vs thea it probably nothing but Thea wanting revenge
ReplyDeleteOh, boy! This looks awesome! :O
ReplyDeleteTommy's back! Slade's back! Merlance is back! The Island is back!
And felicity?? Where is she???
ReplyDeleteTommyyyyyyyyyy
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize that I actually missed seeing Oliver on the island.
Seriously Thea fighting Slade and wining? And isn't he in his cell?
It looks awesome though.
Really looking forward to this episode! Thea and Ollie being stuck on Lian Yu with Slade (those scenes will be incredible), Flashbacks of Ollie in Starling City checking up on his family, Tommy (looking good!), and Laurel. There's a lot of potential here for it be one of the best episodes Arrow has ever done.
ReplyDeleteI'll believe she will make an appearence in the flashbacks, like a cameo. Diggle too. What would she do on a flashback or in the island? It's better not to force characters...
ReplyDeleteMaybe Oliver and Maseo see her or get some kind of help from her? And when Oliver goes "they told me you were the one to help me" on 1x03 was a lie, he already knew what she could do...
Other than that... I don't think we'll see her. And it's for the best... The worst they could do is to make a "Oliver sees Felicity and smiles without even knowing her" because at that point in the flashbacks Oliver was still hanging from the idea of Laurel.
I don't think she wins... She will try, fail, Ollie will come, defeat Slade and she will try to kill him... Pictures could be misleading. Just because she throws a punch at him doesn't mean he won't punch her hard in the head 2 seconds after blocking her try xD
ReplyDeleteI don't want that either. They made a big deal about the first time Oliver saw her in her office. If he already knew her before it'll ruin that scene for me.
ReplyDeleteFirst flashbacks I'm actually looking forward to.
ReplyDeleteHere's hoping lol
ReplyDeleteAnd don't call him by that name again :/
ReplyDeleteSorry, comic reflex when i'm writing fast(You may see me write Seattle instead of Starling also...) Jajajaja.
ReplyDeleteit will just give the Olicity fans what they want! Felicity in flashback where she has no relation to Oliver......maybe it better she don't appear
ReplyDeleteIt would make no sense Jajajaja I would be ok with Maseo maybe getting some help from her without knowing and tells Oliver there's a girl in your company that's quite good or some s**t like that... So he would remember and go sees her personally for the first time.
ReplyDeleteThat's as much as i can handle... Hope she doesn't appears at all, tbh.
Wouldn't dare.
ReplyDeleteHmm. One where Malcolm took Thea after she was born (he knew about her birth in this universe) and had her trained from birth in the league.
ReplyDeletehow the hell did Slade get out of the cell
ReplyDeleteWell let's type slower then :/
ReplyDeleteOkay, mom... :(
ReplyDeleteThey can cross paths but I don't want it to be a big deal
ReplyDeleteThat could work.
ReplyDeleteWhat if Merlyn and Slade have a deal, he delivers Thea closure with Slade letting himself take out by her or something? Minus the death thing (blank bullets)
ReplyDeleteAnd that's the second word I forbid you to use lol
ReplyDeleteMaybe Malcolm lets him out and send Oliver and Thea to stop him in some sort of twisted training session? xD
ReplyDeleteStill no. Not unless, in this universe you've created, Slade is a librarian.
ReplyDeleteI just can't catch a break, am i? Jajajaja
ReplyDeleteNope lol
ReplyDeleteIf he throws a book like the Odissey at her he could beat her... Words are the mightest weapon!
ReplyDeleteWithout Mirakuru yes. With Mirakuru no.
ReplyDeleteSince that's 18 years of training and experience with the league. At least.
ReplyDeleteCan we talk about how Slade doesn't have a beard that would put both Dumbledore and Gandalf to shame?
ReplyDeleteGiven that she's appearing on Flash the following week, it may have purposely been scheduled that she's absent from the episode so as to not burn out Emily. Similar to her being limited to an Arrow cameo appearance when she first guest starred on Flash
ReplyDeleteThere's a barber shop on Lian Yu. That and dude it would take far longer to grow a beard like that than a year.
ReplyDeleteNo amount of time or training negates the fact that Thea is five foot nothing and 90 pounds up against a brick wall like Slade Wilson with special forces training.
ReplyDeleteI was just making my usual stupid comment xD
ReplyDeleteShe shoot Flash's 1x18 while shooting Arrow's 1x17... It's not for that. It's just because of the story: it doesn't make sense she's there...
ReplyDeleteIf there isn't a scene where Oliver and Thea visit Robert's grave, I deem this episode a failure. Because wow, that moment would be amazing
ReplyDeleteShe is not appearing on the flash next week.
ReplyDeleteIt always amazed me that Oliver hair grew but Slade's never did lol
ReplyDeleteBy then, Oliver had been sleeping with Shado and later Sara so he wasn't still hung up on Laurel.
ReplyDeleteI'm not happy about the "love letter to fans" having so little Diggle and Felcity but I guess it can't be helped.
There's supposed to be a scene Olicity fans will love.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she does something and Oliver is impressed even though he doesn't see her..
I'll to see Slade but I'm already tired of Thea, Malcolm and Laurel.
ReplyDeleteAt this point, I just want a bit of a break and have the old show back for a while.
I bet that's about some talk Oliver has with Slade... I just think that seeing her in the flashbacks would be to forced.
ReplyDeleteAnd in a wheelchair.
ReplyDeleteI'd really like to trade Malcolm for Slade right now. Oliver trains with Slade and Katana. That would be awesome. Oliver looking like Thea's classmate is just offensive.
ReplyDeleteOliver training wit Slade would actually make some sort of sense but Sadly the writers are to invested in redeeming Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteSad thing is, is that there are a lot of people who think that Oliver teaming up with Malcolm was the right thing to do. I just don't get it :p
ReplyDeleteyeah, slade is back. great character. I still hope he will come around eventually and join the good guys (not as a regular though)
ReplyDeleteOh give me a break Guggenheim.
ReplyDeletethe point of training with Merlyn is to defeat Ra's. only the student
ReplyDeletecan hope to defeat the master. slade wasn't trained by the league of
assassins. also he already trained oliver (as seen in the flashbacks)
And in a coma.
ReplyDeleteDo you see the photo where they holding a flashlight and standing in front of rocks. I think that's Robert's grave.
ReplyDeleteYeah, um, that logic is moronic. It is just the reason the writers gave us so that people would stop saying train with Katana. "Merlyn knows how to defeat Ra's." Sure he does, that's why he enacted a complicated plan to drug your sister and kill Sara so you'd fight Ra's for him. If Malcolm had any inside line into defeating Ra's he'd have used it already. What a student learns from a master is what a master already knows.
ReplyDeleteI didn't realize I actually missed Slade. I was like "Hey Slade, wanna come back and at least have a plan that makes sense? I mean your motivations are weaksauce, but solid plans, baby."
ReplyDeleteThe shot with Slade on the ground and her holding a gun on him makes me think differently.
ReplyDeleteOliver is there too.
ReplyDeleteOliver is makes don't shoot him, calm down motions with his hands.
ReplyDeleteHahahaha I am this close to missing Ivo he had better plans than Malcolm lol
ReplyDeleteOliver and Slade fights while Thea stands up after being beaten and picks up the gun... Doesn't mean she defeats him. It's just that she's pointing the gun,..
ReplyDeleteAlways possible. Wishful thinking doesn't usually go very well with me and Arrow, but yeah, anything is possible.
ReplyDeleteThere's probably a few present day Starling scenes. This pictures just show the main stuff. Only way Felicity or Diggle would be in a flashback would be a cameo.
ReplyDeleteSlade looks so creepy in that one shot, haha.
ReplyDeleteWell Slade is without Mirakuru and could possibly be so drained out without the drug that he's lived off of for half a decade.
ReplyDeleteOh I know. That's why I made the barber shop one. But I gotta say man Santa beard is the way to go.
ReplyDeleteTrue, but that 90 pound girl has the training and experience to kill him.
ReplyDeleteIf the league were to train her (or any actual reputable organization that trains people in this manner), one of the first things they'd tell her is when you're up against someone who has severe advantages in height, weight, and wingspan don't get sucked into hand to hand combat because you'll lose.
ReplyDeleteDidn't say hand to hand dude. Plus where is the preparation in that? If you're gonna be a elite killer you have to know how to take on those bigger or stronger than you in a fight, whether it be through deception, weaponry or hand to hand. Though to be honest I think it'd be very, very close.
ReplyDeleteThe Slade/Thea interaction should be really interesting after all this time.
ReplyDeleteHear hear.
ReplyDeleteThe hand-to-hand stipulation was the crux of the discussion we've been having.
ReplyDeleteI said "I don't think there's a reality where Thea doesn't end up dead in hand-to-hand combat with Slade." And you posited a scenario where you believed otherwise. Hand-to-hand has been at the center of this from the beginning. If it wasn't, what have we been talking about this whole time?
Quentin with hair, Thea with hair. so much hair!!! I wish they had made laurel the old brunette too some how. Laurel looks so much different from the pilot episode now. Is that Diggle Oliver passing by in the streets of Starling? So we will see Felicity in Oliver's orbit too. Sweet!
ReplyDeleteSlade sure looks creepy. He is going to taunt them both by talking about Moira. The handsome devil. To see Thea fighting Slade is ridiculous. Willa's hands are so small compared to Manu's.
Honestly? I imagined hand to hand, but more of a she wins by using a weapon thing after a struggle.
ReplyDeleteMarc said she will be there.
ReplyDeletewell, it's the logic the show decided to go with. I don't think it's completely absurd. While Merlyn might not be able to be defeat Ra's, he could have some insight on him that could help Oliver if he were to face him again.
ReplyDeleteJust because that is the writers' reason they didn't use Katana doesn't mean I need to agree with it. But you are right, Malcolm *could* have some insight. Or he could continue offering excellent gems like "Ra's preys on your fears." Ra's defeated Oliver in a flat out sword fight. If anyone preyed on Oliver's fears it was Malcolm when he manipulated him into fighting Ra's in the first place.
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