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Arrow - Episode 3.12 - Uprising - Asia Promo [LQ]

1 Feb 2015

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156 comments:

  1. Sparky1 February 2015 at 17:16

    Oh Sin, I love you! Now if you could only spill the beans to Thea that would be marvelous!

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  2. Graydon1 February 2015 at 17:17

    Ah Oliver trying to dissuade Malcolm from murder That'll go well.

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  3. Sissi1 February 2015 at 17:22

    I was waiting for this promo!
    I'm not disappointed

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  4. Sparky1 February 2015 at 17:26

    Well i need something to happened other than her just blindly believing in Malcolm. Because I am at a point with her character where there is almost no turning back.

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  5. Graydon1 February 2015 at 17:27

    That I'm not so sure about because yeah while she needs to get away from Malcolm (and it could be good motive to embrace heroism or the beginnings), on the other hand it will destroy her.

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  6. Spindae21 February 2015 at 17:27

    ohhhhhhh! LOVED IT! Laurel is so hot ! Damn!
    Sin telling it isn't Sara! #heartbreak

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  7. Graydon1 February 2015 at 17:31

    Fair and I hope she learns (whether it be she killed Sara or that Malcolm has betrayed her) and turns against him. But Thea just keeps getting shafted and hurt and I just feel so bad for her. As f*cked up as it is, I get why she trusts Malcolm. He's never to her knowledge lied to her, treated her like a kid or anything less than someone with potential that she knows of, and she did learn and train under him (which according to Arrow and probably is a huge bonding and trust building thing). I thing it's not good (if not terrible judgement) to trust Malcolm knowing he's a mass murderer, but hopefully when she does learn this will be a wake up call and she gains more skill at understanding others (or learns how to distinguish threat from ally like Oliver did) and serves as Thea's crucible so she can along with her new skills and strength fight for justice alongside Team Arrow in the future.

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  8. Nick1 February 2015 at 17:37

    By episode 14 Thea will be alone with Oliver and Slade in Lian Yu, for some reason... If she doesn't know then... I mean, at that point you have to know your bother is The Arrow.

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  9. Helen S1 February 2015 at 17:41

    Laurel looks sooooo good in that BC outfit.

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  10. Helen S1 February 2015 at 17:41

    Actually Roy is the one that said the line not Laurel ;)

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  11. Sparky1 February 2015 at 17:50

    They were doing the tandem thing. I blame both.

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  12. maclives1 February 2015 at 17:53

    I love this show but if Oliver manages to talk sense into Malcolm my head might explode

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  13. Koky1 February 2015 at 17:55

    Oh Oliver I missed you and your voice modulator dearly lol. Welcome home my poor brooding tortured hero.

    I had that theory that Sin would be the one to tell Quentin since sheis supposed to play a pivotal role in Sara's murder investigation. There is no longer an investigation so the logical conclusion is that she would tell Lance. apparently I'm right. That feels good but it's also heartbreaking. I want Quentin to get mad at all of them.

    I liked that Roy is honouring Oliver and saying "You have failed this city" however I don't like other elements in that scene.

    Can we just shoot Malcolm? The world would be a far better place.
    Malcolm killed way more than 502 people and Tommy. How about the people in the lab in 1x22? Moira's driver in 2x07? The Queen Gambit crew? SARA? ROBERT? Frank Chen? Probably the body guards around the Queen mansion in 2x08? The policemen in 1x23. And that's just off the top of my head! I know that this is not relevant to the promo but it's bothering me that they only mention the 503.

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  14. Graydon1 February 2015 at 17:58

    If anyone could it's Oliver. He won't though.

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  15. maclives1 February 2015 at 18:08

    He could possibly fight Merlyn?

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  16. Koky1 February 2015 at 18:11

    I think he will because in the promo the police seem to be arresting Brick on the news when it says "The Arrow Returns".

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  17. Koky1 February 2015 at 18:12

    Maybe not alone.

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  18. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:17

    Malcolm will never die. He's Oliver's Joker, his Lex Luthor, his Professor Zoom (though he did actually die).

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  19. Sparky1 February 2015 at 18:19

    Why not her use her Justice line, I am protective of Oliver.

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  20. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:20

    Yeah but he's so deliciously evil and fun. Honestly you should want Ra's dead. He's far, far worse. Both in kill count and motive.

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  21. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:25

    Yeah if she doesn't by then I will face palm.

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  22. Helen S1 February 2015 at 18:26

    I'm sure Laurel would be missing from the entire episode and she'd still be blamed for something :)

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  23. Koky1 February 2015 at 18:27

    YES PLZ!

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  24. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:27

    If he could that'd be awesome. But I feel like it'll come to Oliver having to put an arrow in Malcolm (not kill though).

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  25. Sparky1 February 2015 at 18:27

    Nah you use Olivers line i am gonna side-eye you. Its not like they pretending to be the Arrow. I would have frown but would have still be ok with it.

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  26. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:27

    So? He's not here to their knowledge. Needed to be said. Justice you can't run from just doesn't work as well here. This is about them and the people of the glades retaking their city.

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  27. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:29

    But they're all on Team Arrow. And contextually it works here. I'd have more of an issue if Roy was wearing the Arrow outfit.

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  28. Sparky1 February 2015 at 18:32

    But it was always something to do with the Arrow. Not something they said as team Arrow.
    And Oliver is coming back to a completely changed Team. And Dig already streched out Oliver suit. At least let him have his line. Poor guy.

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  29. Graydon1 February 2015 at 18:37

    Fine, as long as the people of Starling learn Roy's codename. Dude should at least get some recognition.

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  30. Sparky1 February 2015 at 18:37

    Well i agree on that. Let him have his own thing. Otherwise he will always be in Arrows shadow.

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  31. Koky1 February 2015 at 18:42

    I'm not a fan of Ra's either but he hasn't been around long enough to get on my nerves. Besides he didn't brainwash Thea into killing Sara and didn't send Oliver to his death to save his own skin, so no one would kill him for killing hundreds of innocent people. As misguided as Ra's is he believes he is doing this for a good cause.

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  32. Ore1 February 2015 at 18:45

    They are trying to honour oliver. They think he's dead. Don't see the big deal

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  33. maclives1 February 2015 at 19:18

    Malcolm? Dead? NOOOOOO KOKY :(

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  34. O D A1 February 2015 at 19:23

    Oliver is back. Yay. Oh Lance. Come here let me give you a hug. You poor soul!!


    Where is my Digg man? Why is he not there? Have you gone to rally the troupe against Brick?

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  35. Koky1 February 2015 at 19:26

    "And Dig already streched out Oliver suit" not to mention that Roy probably scratched his Ducati.

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  36. Anna Bender1 February 2015 at 19:27

    Oh, Sin. Telling Lance about the "fake canary" will end badly and break his heart.
    And Merlyn going wild looks promising.

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  37. Graydon1 February 2015 at 19:39

    But so did Malcolm. They're both awful. But they're so great as villains.

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  38. AnnoDomini1 February 2015 at 19:50

    Oh jesus, how true this would be. Laurel would be missing for an entire episode and people will still bitch about her.

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  39. AnnoDomini1 February 2015 at 19:51

    Agree. Plus, you can just sense in the line from Roy that he didn't have the "tone" that Ollie brought to the line. Really showed how Roy is still the rookie which works greatly.

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  40. AnnoDomini1 February 2015 at 19:54

    He's seen in promotional pics of him being part of the Team Arrow army.

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  41. AnnoDomini1 February 2015 at 20:27

    The two will end up fighting, Ollie ends up getting the upper hand and then Merlyn will flee. Or maybe Ollie will have an arrow aimed at Merlyn's head and say something about Thea, like "Think about your daughter" which will make Merlyn back down and leave the scene.

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  42. MurderMondays1 February 2015 at 20:27

    Shocking that an attractive woman looks good in generic black leather.

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  43. O D A1 February 2015 at 20:28

    I know. But at the time when they say you have failed this city Diggle is not there. That's why I thought he must be away rallying the troupes to help Laurel and Diggle. I was not complaining. It was said in fun.

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  44. CS 221 February 2015 at 20:54

    Sin you dumbass.

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  45. Koky1 February 2015 at 21:26

    They are both awful in their own ways.

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  46. Koky1 February 2015 at 21:26

    But he annoys me so much :(

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  47. maclives1 February 2015 at 21:28

    I get that, he's a baddie. But think about it like this: we need a regular villain. And would you rather have John Barrowman or DJDouche as Olivers constant enemy? :P


    He's a dick and the most despicable character on the show for what he's done to his own daughter and son. But I can't deny that Barrowman is owning his scenes and creates a pretty enjoyable bad guy. If we have to be stuck with one I'll always go with him.


    Imagine having Brick, Ra's or...*gulp* Felicitys Ex BF in every episode as the main antagonist

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  48. Koky1 February 2015 at 21:37

    Well if I have to choose then I guess you're right. I just wish they stop acting like he is a caring father because HE IS NOT and I need another reason for Oliver choosing not to kill him besides that he doesn't want to kill Thea's daddy! Malcolm had no problem killing Thea's true father and had absolutely no problem in killing Quentin's daughter.

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  49. maclives1 February 2015 at 21:38

    Oh yeah, they need to find another reason to explain why he's kept around. Like saying that he's hiding and only coming out when needed or (what I would prefer) Team Arrow keeping him locked up in a special cell in the Arrow cave giving him a chance to shine like Red

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  50. Koky1 February 2015 at 22:26

    I'd be OK with that.

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  51. AnnoDomini1 February 2015 at 22:54

    Because he seems to actually be in the middle of it, not leading the way.

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  52. IvyB1 February 2015 at 23:31

    I love Barrowman since DW/Torchwood and love his sociopathic Malcolm Merlyn, but I think they need to downgrade Malcolm to recurring and bring him in relevant episodes, because his presence in the first half was a joke. Have him in big episode blocks, disappear for a while and come back. Having a bad guy that's a regular for more than one season is a bit of a problem, because you run into the Sylar issue from Heroes and try to de-fang the villain or make the heroes really incompetent (or the villain, if he's trying to kill the heroes).

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  53. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:13

    they're honoring Oliver how can you not like that?

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  54. lsbloom2 February 2015 at 00:26

    I just want Oliver back. These episodes have been terrible. Bring back Oliver, write small manageable plots if that's all you can handle, try to make sense and not treat your audience like they are idiots with 5 second memories.

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  55. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:26

    isn't he more of a veteran compared to Laurel?

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  56. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:27

    you got that right, and i see this as honoring Oliver's memory

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  57. Spindae22 February 2015 at 00:27

    Think during the first bunch of eps, he had conflicted scheduling and couldn't be there full time and that should change now and he'll be there throughout the season.

    But overall I agree he should appear in specific arcs and stuff, full time doesn't do justice to his character.

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  58. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:27

    Oliver just came back from death, he can't possibly get the upper hand, unless it's a big time-jump like 6 months at least

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  59. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:27

    you think this is Thea's Crucible? huh i didn't think of that

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  60. IvyB2 February 2015 at 00:27

    Ah, could be, I thought it was just the first few episodes that he was busy with something else. But I think him being in specific arcs would work best, rather than 1-2 minutes per episode, just basically being there, lurking mostly. I think Slade being a regular in S2 mostly worked because of the flashbacks, other than that they didn't over do him in the present, he showed up when needed (we won't talk about ruining my favorite character, giving him crap reason for being a villain, fridging Shado,Miirakuru!crazy, not caring about his family, etc).

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  61. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:27

    like what?

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  62. ivan2 February 2015 at 00:27

    yeah that's what i've always said, Zoom died? how?

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  63. ivan2 February 2015 at 01:46

    why?

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  64. fan20002 February 2015 at 02:26

    I like Ra. He's bad ass. And I have a feeling that Thea is gonna end up being an going to have join the league. Due to her killing Sarah. I imagine her dad is still going to have to die and Ra is gonna kill him and she will find out what her dad did. She will then end up joining the league to take Sarah's position. It is just a theory

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  65. Rheinmeister09 .2 February 2015 at 02:27

    Why are we not getting any New Zealand promo's these days???

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  66. lsbloom2 February 2015 at 02:31

    That or people worried that they'd have her step in and take on way too much and be okay because the writers write it that way. She benches Diggle, makes arrogant comments to bad guys, and now she standing in the middle for all intents and purposes at the head of the uprising calling out the main bad guy. if you can't see why people wouldn't be ready for that kind of Laurel, then I can see why you would go with a generic "haters gonna hate" mantra. Some people would have preferred she earned some redemption before cocky Laurel badass got shoved in our faces to the detriment to a well-established team.

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  67. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 03:41

    If he can even fight, or even do that swinging thing as seen in the promo, I don't see how he couldn't still kick @ss.

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  68. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 03:42

    I'm speaking on comparing him to Ollie he's still the rookie.

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  69. Helen S2 February 2015 at 03:56

    First of all its about the line that's being said ( said by Roy not sure how Laurel is even in this)

    Second of all Laurel doesn't need to be redeemed. She didn't murder anyone or was evil. A woman going through grief and emotional pain does not need to be redeemed.

    And did you not watch the episode? Obviously not since laurel isn't some badass fighter yet

    And now Laurels comments to CRIMINALS are arrogant? Haha I can't with you haters.

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  70. Brian2 February 2015 at 04:37

    I find the line cheesy but it seemed to work better in the first season. I don't blame Laurel for saying Brick's name. She's just getting his attention but Roy could have just said something street thuggish. It's funny how not only this scene but in this season he talks like has more education and better English skills.

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  71. adjective2 February 2015 at 04:37

    I find it a little bit sad that Sin notices before Quinten that it's not Sara...

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  72. arrowshieldfan2 February 2015 at 05:27

    Sin probably see that she is not Sara up close......while Quentin was a bit far away...

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  73. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:28

    ah i thought you meant him and Laurel are the same in where they are

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  74. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:30

    he didn't before? he's not an idiot, he couldn't be to have survived years in the streets AND survived the Mirakuru injection

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  75. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:33

    right?! he DIED and they can't skirt over that issue and they need to address that he needs to heal for a very long time and can't be in the field

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  76. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:36

    that's the thing: he shouldn't be ABLE to fight or zipline at ALL, he got stabbed twice AND fell off a cliff he shouldn't even be able to walk

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  77. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:37

    right?!

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  78. ivan2 February 2015 at 05:39

    what other elements don't you like in the scene with Roy?

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  79. lsbloom2 February 2015 at 06:15

    Like I said, since you don't want to listen to what people actually don't like, I can see what you go straight to haters.


    1. Laurel calls out Brick leading into Roy's you have failed this city. The exchange is what is Sparky introduced into the discussion.


    2. Some people don't like her, and feel that her past actions do require redemption. Not Malcolm-level or even type of redemption. But humble, team building, earn your place redemption.


    3. I watched the episode. I saw Laurel dodging bullets and taking out bad guys that kicked the crap out of Diggle and the SCPD ESU team. I saw Laurel bust out a window and catching a moving, unsecured rope ladder from a helicopter. Crappy fighters are always doing hardcore action star moves. Thanks for clarifying for me.


    She has been front and center pushing other characters aside for two episodes now. She is definitely top of mind of anyone watching Arrow right now, for or against.

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  80. nicholas2 February 2015 at 06:37

    they might of treated his wounds more just what they said they did

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  81. Graydon2 February 2015 at 07:58

    I think her learning about killing Sara will be the beginning of it.

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  82. ivan2 February 2015 at 08:26

    so Basrry Allen CAN be pushed to kill

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  83. Graydon2 February 2015 at 08:27

    Barry broke his neck for killing Iris.

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  84. Hannah2 February 2015 at 08:27

    Since the return of Arrow from the Christmas break, the show hasn't been broadcasted the same day as the US in NZ. Unfortunately it hasn't returned yet along with the promos

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  85. O D A2 February 2015 at 08:31

    I just thought since these two were alone in this scene Digg, Sin and maybe Lance will come with the people after this line. Who knows?

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  86. O D A2 February 2015 at 08:37

    I agree with this completely. Also write him better. Give him material so interesting that we are at the edge of our seats to know what else Malcolm would come up with next. He should be the most brilliant, cunning and manipulative person in this show. And show needs to accept that he is the villain not a morally grey character. To show the hero of our show let a villain who killed 503 people walk away because he simply said you cannot hold me in any prison is insulting us and the character of Oliver Queen. At least put him in jail for once so that we see he can break out from there.

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  87. CS 222 February 2015 at 08:39

    She's probably the reason Quentin becomes suspicious and eventually finds out...

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  88. Sparky2 February 2015 at 08:45

    Sorry i just cant with it. It would be different if it was a team Arrow line but it was always said by Oliver. There are other way to honor Oliver.

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  89. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:03

    That's an interesting theory but I'm not sure the league would take her after she killed Sara, even though she was being controlled.

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  90. Sparky2 February 2015 at 09:06

    How dare she tell Quenting the truth!

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  91. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:07

    Ah. I meant the fact the Roy and Laurel suddenly became the dynamic duo of the show, facing Brick alone.

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  92. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:08

    The nerves of some people!

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  93. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:15

    Look I'm very protective of Oliver too, it's actually one of the reasons I hate Palmer because he keeps taking over Oliver's life. But to be fair Dig did say that line before. It started with Oliver but I think it became a Team Arrow thing. I had no problem with Roy saying it, he kinda earned it. He was Oliver's partner but I agree the fact that Laurel started the line annoyed me a little.

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  94. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:20

    Wait!!!!! Iris is dead?!!!!

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  95. CS 222 February 2015 at 09:26

    It's none of her business to tell a sick father that his daughter is dead. I hope it weighs heavily on the bum's conscience when Quentin dies.

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  96. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:26

    You know, he has one heck of a skeleton. He didn't break a single bone!!

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  97. Sparky2 February 2015 at 09:27

    Holy shit ... So he can do his job as captain, take part in shoot-outs but the truth will kill him. Not the fact his daughter deceived him for such a long time.

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  98. Sparky2 February 2015 at 09:37

    I am ok if somebody is in the Arrow suit saying it. If you wearing your own suit get your own line. And seeing that duo saying that line all i can keep thinking is those two practiced that shit infront of the mirror and fought who gets to say it.

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  99. Koky2 February 2015 at 09:59

    Spoiler Alert! Try not to spread that little piece of information around!

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  100. Sparky2 February 2015 at 09:59

    But arent these episode supposed to be about Roy stepping up.

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  101. Koky2 February 2015 at 10:00

    Key word here is supposed.

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  102. Koky2 February 2015 at 10:04

    For all we know Sin doesn't even know that Sara is dead and I'm pretty sure she doesn't know that Quentin is sick. She just noticed that the woman in black wasn't Sara and was telling him that a woman is impersonating his daughter!!

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  103. CS 222 February 2015 at 10:05

    Laurel probably had more important things to do in her grief than search for Sin. On the other hand, if Sin figured this Canary isn't Laurel, maybe she should have approached her first instead of ratting her out to Quentin.

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  104. Koky2 February 2015 at 10:26

    Mِaybe they are taking turns, next time he says the name and she finishes lol
    Actually I meant when he said it in the season 2.5 comics. It's a little early for Roy to get a line of his own, he usually doesn't say anything during missions he just tags along and comments sarcastically with Oliver or screams in the comms asking for Felicity's help lol. Those two are really getting on my nerves. When did they become such a synced fighting partners? They are pushing the two inexperienced masked heroes to the front just because of the comic books and it's frustrating. Wasn't that the same Roy she always yelled at and schooled and arrested?

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  105. Jordana342 February 2015 at 10:26

    That's what I figured too. I don't think that Sin knows that Sara is dead and just wants to know who is impersonating her.

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  106. CS 222 February 2015 at 10:26

    A villain is annoying? NO WAY!

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  107. IvyB2 February 2015 at 10:27

    I agree with you about giving him material so interesting we're just waiting to see what he does next. LOL, that scene in 3X04 where Oliver just let Malcolm go enraged me, because- really? Either let Nyssa take care of it, or test his claim, maybe send him off to Amanda. And then you have Malcolm saying that Oliver is family and giving Thea's his revisionist's history version of why the League are after him, which I just found hysterical.

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  108. Sparky2 February 2015 at 10:27

    Well Sin/Sara had a special bond. It isnt Sins fault Laurel didnt inform her that pssst you can tell everybody Sara is dead except for my dad.

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  109. CS 222 February 2015 at 10:27

    Don't tell me. Tell the morons who write this show and made Quentin out to be a weakling.


    Doesn't change my initial comment though. Sin has no business telling him.

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  110. O D A2 February 2015 at 10:47

    Season 3 all in all is a group of mediocre episodes. None of the villains has been interesting except maybe Cupid, Boomerang and Ted's villain since he was not the point in that episode. Vertigo was okay, Komodo was wasted, Mark Shaw/Manhunter was boring, Cooper was annoying. Brick at least is a worthy villain.


    I think I am expecting a bit much from a show like Arrow. I don't mind mediocre acting but give us good material. Let Malcolm do something devious so that Oliver has no choice but to let him go, let Oliver be in dark about Malcolm until the mid season finale because Oliver letting Thea be in contact with Malcolm is unbelievable, you want Diggle to sit back and Laurel to go in the field and fail fine but do it in a believable way.. give the guy a gun shot wound, a dislocated shoulder or even a pulled hamstring, also don't gloss over Oliver's recovery unless you plan to introduce he was put in lazarus pit later.. because Oliver should have at least few broken bones after that fall. Let's not talk about Quentin Lance and Sara situation at all. Also there should be some explanation regarding what is actually going on in Thea's head when she casually speaks about Undertaking with her terrorist father. I am hoping for a twist there.


    I have so many issues with this season.

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  111. Sparky2 February 2015 at 12:40

    It will break his heart no matter when he would be told.

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  112. Jon2 February 2015 at 13:20

    She was for a bit yes, then her 30th century biological parents resurrected her and reunited her with Barry.


    Don't ask, comics in the 70's were weird.....mmmmkay.

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  113. Koky2 February 2015 at 13:28

    Huh!

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  114. Helen S2 February 2015 at 14:28

    I call you a after because that's exactly what you are. See I'll present to you the FACTS

    1. She's blaming Laurel for a line being said when ITE Roy that says it!!! Can Laurel see the future? Can she predict what Roy is going to say?

    2. Laure has saved, and put her life on the line for others on numerous occasions. If she needs to be "redeemed" for going through emotional turmoil then she doesn't need those ppl as fans. People that believe grief needed redemption is their ignorance to uphold.

    3.Obviously you didn't watch the episode. Cause Laurel didn't block bullets. She knocked the gun out of his hand with her stick. Resulting in the bullet fired flying somewhere else. Laurel didn't beat up Brick. He had the edge on her and she kneeded him in the groan. What training do you needel to jump out of a window? Please enlighten me? It is a broken down warehouse. That is luck. But I love how you ignore the punches, slashes, strangles, and slams Laurel went through the episode.

    Two episodes now? Um she had 5 minutes of screentime in 3X10 but you are right how dare the female lead get screentime.

    Its like you keep defining the term hater for me. Haha thanks for the laugh.

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  115. Graydon2 February 2015 at 14:54

    Was dead sort of. It's weird she's in the 31st century, and for a while her and Barry live there (part of the reason why Bart Allen despite being born over a millennia after Barry is his grandson). There is a ton time travel in Flash comics.

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  116. Graydon2 February 2015 at 14:55

    Yes. Really all of the main leaguers (the original seven) have killed in mainstream continuity except Batman.

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  117. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:02

    OK now I'm lost. So Barry is from the 20th century and she is from the 31st century? How did they meet? And Bart was born over a millennia after Barry? I thought it was just like 50 years or something!

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  118. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:07

    So Barry is dead too. That's just swell.

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  119. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:16

    Iris was sent to the 20th Century and adopted by the West family.

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  120. Graydon2 February 2015 at 15:18

    Iris (at least in the comics) was born in the 31st century but (I can't remember why) was sent to live in the 20th century as a baby . She wants to interview him over his mom's death (at least in Flash: Rebirth, haven't read the 50's Flash comics so if it differs I don't know) and they go out to dinner, yada yada yada. Yeah it's a millennia. He's from the 31st century. He was sent back in time to meet his grandfather and gain help controlling his speed and accelerated aging but since Barry was "dead" (I'd say what but that could pertain to the show) instead Wally West helped him out.

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  121. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:24

    So his mom died in the comics too. I really need to read some articles about the comics or something.
    So when Felicity asked if Barry will age faster she was right. Do you think he will age faster on the show? Or was it just Bart? And did Wally have any powers?

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  122. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:26

    And during that time who was The Flash? Bart?

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  123. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:26

    He WAS dead between 1986 and 2009 yes. But after The Flash: Rebirth he's alive again and as of right now, the current comic book Flash again. It was also his actions that caused the universe to reboot into the new continuity known as The New 52/Prime Earth

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  124. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:27

    DC Comics Wikia is a good resource, but really the reason for all the various "Crisis" (Infinite Earth/Zero Hour/Final Crisis etc) over the year was usually to clean up the weird and convoluted continuity.

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  125. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:27

    Iris's nephew Wally West was the main Flash for most of that time. Bart was Kid Flash but did indeed asume Flash role for a little while.

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  126. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:27

    Hmmmm. Thanks for being patient with me but I get lost sometimes. How do you keep track?

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  127. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:29

    Wally had the same powers as Barry since he was exposed to the very same situation Barry was (Lightning Strike + chemicals). He eventually even surpassed Barry in mastery of the Speed Force and the speeds he could reach.

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  128. Graydon2 February 2015 at 15:30

    Actually Barry and other speedsters (and close relatives and friends) due to their connection to the speed force age much slower than average people. It's more likely due to Bart being born with super speed that originally caused it (or just a justification of his travelling back in time). Yeah Wally has the same powers as Barry (except arguably he's faster) he replicated Barry's accident (in the comics, show not sure).

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  129. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:32

    That's interesting. So is Joe the TV version of Wally? Do you think he will get powers at some point?

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  130. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:37

    Cool, I love Joe's character the way it is now. Thanks again.

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  131. Jon2 February 2015 at 15:37

    Nah, Joe is Joe. He doesn't seem to really have much of a counterpart in comics. And unless Iris has siblings we've never heard of I doubt we'll see Wally

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  132. Koky2 February 2015 at 15:37

    What about Barry's kids? Weren't they born with super speed?
    (You must be sick of me by now lol)

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  133. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 16:14

    I am liking the idea that Dig is leading another part of the army. Maybe fighting Brick on two fronts. It sucks that Lance doesn't know about Diggle being on Team Arrow otherwise that would be a cool partnership to see.

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  134. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 16:15

    And yet he's still able to, so I don't see how it would be out there for Ollie to fight Merlyn now. I agree, it does seem odd, but just because Ollie can though in this week's episode, it's not impossible for him to fight Merlyn now.

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  135. Jon2 February 2015 at 16:27

    Don and Dawn Allen (a.ka The Tornado Twins) did indeed inherit some of their father's speed.

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  136. IvyB2 February 2015 at 16:27

    My issues started with S2 and how they screwed up/over any character not called Oliver Queen, but this season isn't doing much better, outside of a few episodes here and there. I'm just glad Laurel finally has a good story line, but even that isn't being handled that well. And don't get me started on Thea and how everyone is lying to her and removing her agency. *sigh*

    I hated Cupid, she was a Harley Quinn knockoff and not even done that well. Way too OTT and cartoon-y and then there's the biggest casting fail with Rugby Ra's and how they're not even doing anything with him till now. So many boring one off villains or underutilized ones. The whole thing with Malcolm is definitely putting everyone in a bad light- Oliver for letting him go and leaving Thea with him once he found out what Merlyn did to her, team Arrow (especially Roy) not getting her away from her abusive bio-dad who can turn her into a murdering weapon at a drop of a hat.

    Diggle sitting it out was poorly written, my brother suggested it was because the Arrow suit was too restrictive, LOL. And can he at least wear a ski mask when he's out fighting Brick? Seriously. Let's not discuss Oliver surviving with just penicillin or everyone keeping secrets from everyone and how ridiculous it's gotten. Or Thea last season shooting Malcolm in a middle of a sentence like it's nbd for her (not when he just showed up or if he provoked her) and now is totally fine with him being a mass murderer, because at least she thinks he's not a liar. The writers are really trying my patience with how they write Thea for plot convenience and I just get so protective over her and what her to find out the truth, renounce Merlyn and join the good fight.

    The show hasn't been that great since S1, in my opinion. Even if occasionally it has good moments or story lines.

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  137. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 16:27

    No....well, Roy and Laurel are still the rookies compared to Ollie anyways, but I'm saying that by Roy saying Ollie's line, you can tell just by the way Roy says the line that he's not even in Ollie's level yet.

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  138. Graydon2 February 2015 at 16:37

    Lol it's fine. Yeah Don had super speed. Interestingly enough though being a speed force conduit doesn't guarantee super speed. For example Wally's son has super strength despite a connection with it. That's why a theory is that the particle accelerator merely turned all the metahumans in the show into conduits of it's power, with Barry being the host/ possible generator of the Speed Force.

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  139. Koky2 February 2015 at 16:58

    Again with the time travel. I bet the writers suffered from a chronic headache!

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  140. Jon2 February 2015 at 17:09

    Probably, as I mentioned above. Many of DC's large scale crossover or "Crisis" events were inteded to deal with the crazy continuity that developed over the decades.

    The best known one, Crisis on Infinite Earth was to deal with "the multiverse". All those alternate realities/ paralell versions of Earth were united into one planet. Of course THAT bit of mess was introduced again some years ago (probably due to the fact that the guys in leading position at DC now were kids reading comics in the 60's and 70's when multiverse stories were prevalent)

    Zero Hour dealt with all the possible futures and alternate timelines generated by time-traveling heroes such as Superman and The Flash.

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  141. Koky2 February 2015 at 17:26

    I see! In the show metahumans gain powers due to whatever they were doing during the explosion. But in the comics their powers are connected to who they really are, hmmm. Who needs DC Comics Wikia when I have you guys :D

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  142. Suha2 February 2015 at 17:26

    Whatever happened to the New Zealand promos? I miss the New Zealand promos...

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  143. Koky2 February 2015 at 17:27

    Tornado Twins, now that name sounds so cool. I've been reading about them and apparently Don's wife (Bart's mom) is Meloni Thawne. Is she Professor Zoom's sister?

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  144. Jon2 February 2015 at 17:27

    Not that closely related no, Eobard Thawne was her ancestor though. Eobard was from the 25th century while she was from the 31st

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  145. nicholas2 February 2015 at 17:34

    don't forget Bart was best friends with superboy,wondergirl, and Tim Drake Robin before the new 52

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  146. Kathleen Kervin2 February 2015 at 18:26

    Sin needs to stay on forever and just keep handing out the truth tea.


    Laurel and Roy need to stop stealing Oliver's line. Get your own code, guys.

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  147. O D A2 February 2015 at 18:41

    Maybe Sin tries to talk to Laurel as Sara and Laurel just moves on or replies some way as she does not know the connection between the two. The moment Laurel opens the mouth Sin will know it is not Sara.

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  148. O D A2 February 2015 at 19:27

    I want Lance to be brought in on the secret too. He would be hilarious in the cave. Enough with the commisioner Gordon rip off. Bring Lance into the fold like Det. Joe West. Also give him a girl friend. Poor thing! Digg and Lance wise cracking while kicking ass will be awesome.

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  149. O D A2 February 2015 at 19:27

    I was never a batman fan so I had only slight knowledge of Harley. My expectations were extremely low for cupid as every comic book fan hated her. Maybe that's why I liked her. I still think we will get a surprise revelation about Thea. Something like Thea is learning from Malcolm but waiting to kill him at the right opportunity. Otherwise her casual approach towards undertaking does not make sense. Oliver letting Malcolm go and not pulling her back from him was bad enough I truly thought Team Arrow would let Thea in on the secret once they hear of Oliver's death. I does not make any sense letting her manipulated by Malcolm.


    I personally would take season 2 over season 3 any day. At least most of the episodes had some cohesiveness. Characters were not this OOC last season.

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  150. Jon2 February 2015 at 19:27

    Yep, completly bonkers. Green Arrow continuity is child's play in comparison

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  151. O D A2 February 2015 at 19:27

    It is not a matter of if JB is great as Malcolm. There is no two opinion about that. He owns the screen when he is on it and make everyone else he paired with look good. It's the bad writing associated with him the problem.

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  152. O D A2 February 2015 at 19:27

    I just got my brain fried. 30th century resurrection. Goodness Flash is nuts.

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  153. IvyB2 February 2015 at 19:38

    Well, I'm glad someone likes her, LOL. God I would kill for a surprise reveal that Thea is manipulating Malcolm, but that would be giving the writers way too much credit. They just don't know how to write her and write her according to the plot needs of that episode. I still can't believe neither Oliver nor Team Arrow tried to get Thea away from Malcolm, it boggles the mind.


    I don't know which season I prefer, I'll get back to you once this one is over. But Laurel has a better story line now, Thea might actually get a story line at some point and not just be the supportive girlfriend and motivation she was during S2, I was never a fan of Sara and they ruined my favorite (Slade) in S2, so I really don't know, people had OOC moments or 'WTF writers' moments last season too.

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  154. AnnoDomini2 February 2015 at 23:02

    It's so funny how much they are trying to make Lance a Gordon rip-off, except making him a captain rather than a commissioner(although I would not be surprised to see Lance as commissioner when Arrow starts to be referred to as Green Arrow). Seeing Lance enter the Foundry for the first time will be gold as I always liked Lance's writing on the show.

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  155. Sparky3 February 2015 at 09:27

    I am actually looking forward it because of what Quentin has been reduced to during this lets hide Saras death from Quentin storyline.

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  156. Anna Bender3 February 2015 at 18:27

    Sure, but it will be so painful, when he finds out that his own daughter lied to him in such an extent. I wish for a meeting between him and Mama Smoak. That would be very interesting. They are such contrasting characters. It would be fun. ;)

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