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What I want to see in S05 is a timeslot change! This show desperaetly needs it, Wednesday 8pm was screaming for OUAT, even now Tuesday 8pm would be a great fit as well. But they are stubornly sticking with Sundays. I hope Camelot and Aladin will be featured in the next season sp what ever it needs to get there bring it on.
I chose these three: 1) Introduction to a new land 2) Focus on the main characters 3) One Big Bad for full season
I love to see more action and adventures for our heroes outside Storybrooke in Season 5. But other than that, I love the show and I hope there's more seasons to come.
Just wondering (random question), should OUAT and Agents of SHIELD should be on the same night?
Besides that, probably less reliance on plot devices. Plus, stick to your own rules! Stop "killing" people left and right if they're not going to stay dead.
GOOD STORYLINES. Enough with pointless characters who dies or leave Storybooke after 11episodes. We have seen a lot of Elsa/Arendelle in this season and now they're gone forever, while ACTUAL regulars like Belle are constantly ignored and look like guest stars. Enough with Rumple being bad without a good reason. Eddy & Adam said in a lot of interview that he wasn't trying to do nasty things, he just wanted to be free and he wasn't being evil. Then why did they show him like an asshole? That wasn't Rumple. Rumple is layered and complex. That was a villain. And what irks me is that A&E needed to explain his reasons in interviews. I mean, why couldn't they show his reasons in the episodes? Less ships. I'm so done with ships. 11 Episodes of CS and OQ, no Belle (I'm not saying RUMBELLE, I'm saying Belle) development or Will Scarlet... Regina is just a love interest, just like Robin Hood, Hook, Emma, Belle...they exist bc the ship exist. And the fandom is full of crazy shippers who spend their time insulting other ships. So... more good and CONSISTENTS storylines, more main characters, less pointless characters, less ships and more REAL and good development of single/group storylines. I'm not against couples. I'm against this whole "ship" thing. I'd like to see a good development for Rumple and Belle, Snow and Charming, Regina and Robin etc. I'd like to see them grow as individuals and then together. And I'd like to see EVERY couple, not just the author's favorite one.
The reason ABC doesnt move is that except OUAT and Revenge S2/Ressurection S1 nothing really worked for them in a long run on Sunday.ABC needs OUAT on Sunday so I think they wont move it,although I agree they should.
People hate love the show. Just like I do. I mean I am bit disappoimted with the recent developments but won't give up on the show. But still think S4B will turn it around as it seema more character driven and will again focus more on Regina, Rumbelle The Charmings. I knew the ms finale would be a let down but didn't expect that major rating fall. I mean besides Belle chasing away Rumple it was a filler ep but OUAT always does fine when it comes back . Think that the ms eps set up will draw people back. I mean their DVR ratings were great.
But sticking with the same schedule won't help at all. I mean Resurrections melt down couldn't be anticipated. When you look at it, it is reasonable as the writers are just pushing the stories without giving answers buy again, huge lost.
Okay now we are getting S&L and it could be a success and help both OUAT and Revenge but still Once should've changed timeslot and let The Whisperers work with Resurrection. Would be a much better fit. Abc really needs to fix Sundays, Tuesdays and some other problem kids
Just really focus on the main characters I don't mind a new villains each season I do want to see more sword fights and shooting arrows then just magic and it will be cool to see them outside of storybrook but no outsiders finding storybrook other than that I love this show
I see your point about characters grow alone and I agree but I'm not against ships they are part of the show. I would not be agaist more SQ & more CS or Rumbelle. Emma grew alone learning to control magic ( thanks to Elsa yes) but alone meanly. Regina is trying to change and she is doing that because she wants to alone. So there is a bit of development of that yet too. In a recent interview A&E said Frozen characters "never say never" so we might see them again.
I want focus on the characters and no more villains. I want the characters to fight against something they have no control over like nature and see them trying to overcome it as a team.
I'd like to see Jafar as the main villain for the entire season (The end of Wonderland definitely set up for it). I'd also like Emma Rigby to join the cast (at least for multiple guest appearances) if that doesn't happen during 4B.
But I mostly just want the show to go back to Season 1 days and focus mostly on the main characters!!!
Please, yes for a 5th season too... not the first time I ask if it's true and so many explained me very well, why will give a 5th season, so I hope (and Kitsis said in an interview: KITSIS: Yes, they should have hope because this is a show about hope. The minute you lose hope, then nothing will happen.) :-) Focus on the main characters One big bad for full season (NOT Rumplestiltskin) Only Enchanted Forest and Storybrook
Definitely more focus of the main characters and their individual development - as well as the dynamic they have built together. I would also like to see Robin and Hook having more interaction with characters other than Regina and Emma, but I think that's happening in 4B - at least for Robin with flashbacks as well as his return to Storybrooke.
To make the plot interesting, I also think introducing a new realm of sorts - unknown to all of them - would be the way to go. The obstacle at hand doesn't necessarily have to be a new villain but could be a quest for something else entirely - a mystery of sorts perhaps.
My gut tells me that at the end of season 4, we'll see most of the core characters pretty tight for the most part. Emma and Regina will have become friends, most likely the 4A setup of Emma wanting to prove to Regina that she has her back, will play out in 4B. I also think Robin will become a regular for season 5. The only odd man out will be Rumple who seems to have dug his grave pretty deep at this point. But we'll see.
Also, I don't see any reason for there NOT be a season 5 ratings-wise. On average, 4A has done better than season 3 as far as a can calculate. It is also placed in a tough time slot and still holding its own. My guess is, OUAT will run for at least 6 seasons and at this point the creator may chose to close the book with a happily ever after. The art of knowing when to stop and all :-)
Focus on the main characters and bring back the old ones and their stories, just like in season 1 and 2.
I want to know another Red Riding Hood backstory and new one from Blue Fairy, Granny, Gepetto, Cinderella (Anastacia from OUaTiW is her step-sister?), Mad-Hatter, Ariel etc....
I'd rather they focus on the stories of the main characters like Sleeping Beauty, Ruby, Mulan, Ariel Whale, Blue Fairy, etc,,. A Big bad is OK as long as it doesn't cause a big shift away from the main Storybrooke or Enchanted forest characters. The problem with the introduction of these new lands is that once the story is complete, these guest characters move on (or are banished somewhere) and we don't ever seen them again, so the subsequent season feels like their story never happened, which I don't like (eg.. Pan, Zelena, Anna, Ingrid, Elsa). More interaction between people of Storybrooke and people beyond the town line might also be interesting. I think the romantic drama between characters like Emma and Hook or Belle and Rumpel is fine, but it's not enough to sustain the show, so they need to focus on some more interpersonal plots. A personal preference would be for Robin Hood to never come back and for Regina to find someone else, but that's probably not a popular opinion! And if they ever brought back Jefferson, I'd be ecstatic!
For me, Season 5 needs to be purely about the main characters and the people of /StoryBrooke and their lives and interactions. Find an interesting watchable problem to deal with that does not involve someone being controlled by their heart, or turning evil, or a curse. I watch this show for the regular characters and I want to see all of them moving toward their happy ending. I hope RB find their way back to each other, I sincerely hope that CS does not get ripped apart in the season finale this year after spending the season finally getting them to say I love you to each other. I hope OQ find a way to make that work in time, but, whatever the writers decide the problem is going to be that needs to be solved, I want it to be about the main characters and not the current villain so much that we barely see the regulars and then the guest characters leaves. I don't think any shows should ever ignore their regular characters for even 1/2 a season in order to,showcase a theme or characters that are only around for 11 episodes. I hope that we can see Ruby, Tink all those townsfolk back. I feel like the show is reaching it's shelflife and I hope Season 5 starts to tie things up. I don't want it to go like Lost that got stupid after awhile. It is okay to have couples together and happy, challenged but happy. I really shows that spend so much time developing a couple and then as soon as they are together they find ways to split them up and then they eventually get back together. I have seen so many shows go that route and fans hate it and stop watching. Some come back but many don't. This has already happened with two couples and I hope CS won't be the third as it will affect ratings even more. Season 5 should be about how the regular characters keep their happy endings.
i want to see more storys about regina e rumple, charming and evil queen , i want to regina when she was a kid or teenager , regina with small henry relationship , i want to know whats happen with jefferson and his daughter etc etc etc , ouat has a lot of unfinish history
Lol "never say never" just like Zelena, Peter Pan, Cora...they say "never say never" but the truth is: you won't see them again. And honestly I don't care. I'm not gonna miss Frozen. And yes, I'm against ships because this was a FAMILY show and now is a ship show because of the fandom. Shows shouldn't change because of the fandom...
I'm bored with Storybrooke now, it needs to go and stay in the Enchanted Forest. I'd also love to see the Sanderson Sisters of Hocus Pocus for an episode or two.
A 1.7 is still above average in abc. Season 5 is still a sure thing. It would need to fall to a 1.4 or below in order to be in any danger of being renewed.
5B - Villains (Dracula, Headless Horseman and Chernobog) on Earth without color or horror tales (Dorian Gray, The Phantom of the opera, The fall of the house of Usher and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde)
6A - Villain King of hearts - wanting to resurrect Cora the Queen of hearts - in Wonderland. He releases the Jabberwocky.
6B - Villain Bogeyman the lord of the Netherworld and twin brother of the kind Sandman. Want to defeat his brother to rule the world of dreams.
7A - Villain Dark Faerie recruiting several fairies to take revenge blue fairy that she held. Fairyland.
No new characters or villains, for god sake. Also a break from magic in Storybrooke. Maybe a new land. MAYBE. But the focus should go to the old ones and the Enchanted Forest, or to the lands already shown. Nothing new, just the good old Season 1 feelings.
I would really love to them to bring the Wonderland people back. I miss Ana and Alice, Jaffar and the incredible Jabberwacky i would love to seee that villain seaching for everyones fear and going after them.
One big Villain in my opinion is good. But for something else well we have to have some kind of well necessity which for now at least i don't see. I would like to see more on the characters also, but the problem is that we have not yet seen all of them.
I voted for new land, I wouldn't mind to see Camelot, or for them to focus more time on Agrabah (yet to be featured in the original series) and properly tell the story of Aladdin. People vote the most for focus on the main characters; honestly, I want focus on the SUPPORTING characters, by which I mean the original, established ones who never do ANYTHING: Leroy, Ruby, Granny, Archie, Mother Superior, Dr. Whale and the other dwarfs. That's who I wanna see more of.
Regina is like an angel after the mid-season finale (compared to her previous self) and is friends with Emma and Snow. Emma accepted her powers. Henry has a better relationship with his moms. Gold gave up his good side almost completely. Belle maned up. Relationships between lovers and friends grew or ended, etc.
One of the main things that I want to see next season, is for the writers to have complete focus on the main cast. Also for them to stop picking on Regina. Other then that I would be okay with anything they do storyline wise as long as they do those 2 things
Well, no. Don't leave her alone. We need her to have lots and lots of screen time. But yes, stop tormenting the poor woman non-stop ... It's getting so painful so watch her fighting so hard and getting so little ... I know it's also what makes her a strong and interesting character. But a little happiness ...
I think that anyone who kills their own father and punishes an entire kingdom just to satisfy a petty longstanding grudge against a child, should just be happy that people have forgiven her and that she isn't serving 10 consecutive life sentences on death row! Don't get me wrong, I like the new Regina, but the poor-Regina-is a-victim story arc is not befitting to her character and reeks of fanservice. Just because her biggest fans perceive her as this poor downtrodden victim, doesn't mean that the writers need to start writing her that way. It also makes no sense given that her relationship with Henry has improved by leaps and bounds and that she actually does have people in her life who care about her.
So my last wish for this upcoming season, would be for the writers to put an end to her character's constant woe-is-me whining,and have her deal with hardships just like every other character. And maybe they can find someone better than Robin Hood while they're at it, because the guy is a complete and utter douchebag!. But unless she's going to use that magical book to rewrite the lives that she's ruined, or use it to un-kill the father of that poor child that she tried to steal, then this whole quest to rewrite her history is not justified and the writers should drop it.
Take it easy. I'm not defending Regina's cruel past deeds but was commenting on what I think would bring forth a better narrative. The writers have consistently written Regina as a victim of horrid circumstances through the flashbacks from season 2 and forth - hence the depth of her character and the whole plot of how much a person can take before she goes mad. So it's not a sudden burst of fanservice as I see it. Of course you don't have to agree.
Finally to see characters live normally in a way abit like season 1. Maybe a new land or even trip to Enchanted Forest Emma getting her own place/home And yes to a true love kiss between Emma/Hook <3
I think what you're saying now is a little different and that's fine and I agree that the theme of her growing up under terrible circumstances has been explored in all seasons. However, I still think that the "villains don't have a happy ending" sob story was laid on extremely thick in this recent season and was something I didn't notice in the past. The other thing that was also new, was this Regina-centric approach where the circumstances of Regina's life was meant to evoke more empathy than other characters like Marion or the Mirror, who were placed in such an awful position either directly or indirectly because of Regina. I think in the early season, the writers did a much better job on delving into the lives of these other characters but that seemed to be missing a lot (unless you count the Frozen story which I wasn't particularly invested in). But viewers don't have to agree on everything. My preference would be to have more screen time for these other characters rather than lots and lots of Regina screentime as you put it. But not everyone feels that way. The diversity of the cast was one of the cool things of the show and we're not getting that as much.
I was actually continuing what I already wrote earlier on in the thread where my comment was that I hope for more focus on the main characters. Just did not want to repeat myself. So when I say, we need lots of screen time for Regina that goes for the rest of the main cast as well. I wasn't invested in Frozen either. And though I have nothing against those characters as such, I found that they sidelined the core characters - and had us rush over their stories.
I like to see King George return. Whatever happen to him, he like disappear after that one episode in season 2. And like to see focus on the main characters.
Focus on main characters and daily lives in some ways. And i would not mind seeing a new land, or i would love there be to be a path there they can go back and forth from SB to EF so they can stay in two lands and still come back - that kind of thing.
I love to see them do a pirates theme for abit - Davy Jones etc
Hopefully Emma keeps healing and getting to where her journey is suppose to go with family, love, and home. Because thats always been the story.
Snow and Emma scenes would be nice - mother and daughter bonding.
Emma and Hook - i love you exchanges and importantly THE True Love Kiss. :)
Love to see Ruby and Archie abit more - but as usual this show is about how it fits around these characters and if they are needed. I am cool with that
I didn't say it would, the writers are under some delusion that it's this epic romance story when its turned Hook from being an awesome villain into a lovesick puppy with no other purpose than to please Emma. Everything he does now practically screams "look Emma, I did some good, give me attention please!". The poll asked what people WOULD like to see and I gave my answer. I'm well aware it's not a popular opinion.
He was never a villian in a way you think he was or wanted. We know how he became a pirate due to his brother's death and also then became Hook to get revenge. He wasnt a villian to devastate an entire population. His whole character was always motivated by love. Loss of love. So really love was also going to get him back from the darkness with hope and light. That was how i always saw it going esp when Emma and Hook groundwork was laid so well in the beanstalk episode. And to love Emma unconditionally is what Emma deserves coz she NEVER had that. Thats the whole point.
The point was this show is Love and Hope. Love being the inspiration. And i like Hook and his love that led him to such paths in his life and now love brought him back to love and lightness. The whole point. And healing for both Hook and Emma. And his redemption is finally getting back from the darkness and being a better man which he was always deep down. I love the way he loves Emma, comes back to her. Stand by her and fights for her and by her and chooses her. Pretty much the elements of what love is suppose to be in this show.
Normal lives and settling in for more time in their own lives. Getting to see more bonding i guess. Family scenes between the Charmings. A new realms to discover would be nice. Would love to see Granny's true love lol Ruby back for some time and Archie. I love Snow and Charming to do their apartment up lol - i cant help but think that all the time i see it lol. Emma and Hook progressing and growing and TLK :)
Then they've done a poor job of showing him as any kind of hero. Anything he does is motivated by wanting to look good, not because he himself is a good person.
No matter his motivations, he was a villain and deep down always will be. He was a better side-villain than a hero for people to swoon over. I could never connect with him as a character who was wronged and only did bad things because of someone elses actions. The fact that he did everything that he did invalidates any good he has done since in my eyes and thats why the Captain Swan relationship doesn't work for me. If it works for you and anyone else (which we know it does) then thats perfectly fine, but I don't buy them as a true love relationship no matter what happens on the show because of who he was and deep down, still is.
I disagree. If you think Hook hasnt changed and not understand his character and his fears and self loathing and so on. Then so be it. Such a shame. Because this show thrives on character development. And both Hook and Emma individually and together have had this :)
I'd like to see Regina happy pref with Robin and more scenes of her with Henry and Emma - also to dial back on the villains because so far this season that will be FOUR villains that's if you don't include Gold. It's a bit much. Also more scenes of Emma and David they are great.
Having one big bad can get a little boring Peter Pan was good but it got frustrating how he was always one step a head, I think OUAT needs more than one a season but the current FOUR in one season is a bit much if they keep up this pace then pretty soon EK and AH will run out of villains for the show!.
Agree about the other characters Belle should be a character on her own not just tied to Gold, they've tried to do it but she always ends up back to the wife of Gold. Will Scarlet is great - they HAVE to do something with him I suspect they will they keep eluding to something with the RQ (can't remember if it's Anastasia or something else) the few scenes he's been in have been great. Gold has been a complete ass this season so far, he was my fave character ever since S1 but this season they've taken a lot of what makes him interesting and trashed it to make him more a villain than anything else they've shown him as, like you said he's complex but they're just showing one side of him and it's not the best side. I'm a CS fan so the more I get of that the better it's nice to see Emma in this way but I think some of these characters need to stand alone not just in a couple they are GREAT characters and Hook is great in scenes with Emma and without.
It would be. But what you are doing is DISCREDITING everything that is character development in Hook. And Hook/Emma (canon facts and developing) . Thats where the actual main point is that i dont understand. Because your earlier post just told me - i dont care what they do i will NEVER believe it or see it (something like that) :)
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion. As you say it is yours and it is what it is. I am just curious if you think Rumple or Regina should,have relationships and get their happy endings? Again I am,not wanting to argue I just wonder your thought of them.
You know, I can't actually decide what to think of them or if they deserve their happy endings. Rumple is a very flawed but brilliantly written character with a lot of depth and many different sides to his character, he's more fleshed out than Hook in this instance but I don't know if I can, as a viewer, forgive the way he has disregarded Belle in any of his actions and lied to her time and time again. I think I'd rather see him die in the end after maybe regaining Belle's trust but realising that its too late maybe?
Regina is another story, however, Something about the way she's written can make you root for her one moment but then want to see her get punched in the face the next. I think if she can stop blaming others for her troubles and look at her own actions then maybe she can get to a place where she should get a happy ending but I'm just not sure if it's too late or not.
Rumple being a big bad so poor Robert can finally leave. It's been four seasons of him being a villain, let's get to the point.
Emma to get a decent love interest/storyline.
Cut dead weight like Hook and Will. Basically if they don't actively contribute to the plot, cut them.
Work on making the good guys less hypocritical.
More attention paid to plot, characterization and continuity. Season 4A had some of OUAT's worst continuity. I'd just like it if the writers cared even a quarter as much as fans.
That is a really good perspective and I feel the same. I just really don't know yet about either one and also what I want for either one of them. I go back and forth. I like both characters and in some ways feel that they have been honest in who they are, but in the process have hurt the ones closest to them. And yes I agree that Regina really needs to hold herself accountable and stop depending on others for her happiness or lack of happiness.
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What I want to see in S05 is a timeslot change! This show desperaetly needs it, Wednesday 8pm was screaming for OUAT, even now Tuesday 8pm would be a great fit as well. But they are stubornly sticking with Sundays.
ReplyDeleteI hope Camelot and Aladin will be featured in the next season sp what ever it needs to get there bring it on.
well 1.7 is already a Tiny fall but hope you are right & it doesn't go under 1.00 or 0.5. It could happen seeing how people are hating on the show...
ReplyDeleteI chose these three:
ReplyDelete1) Introduction to a new land
2) Focus on the main characters
3) One Big Bad for full season
I love to see more action and adventures for our heroes outside Storybrooke in Season 5. But other than that, I love the show and I hope there's more seasons to come.
Just wondering (random question), should OUAT and Agents of SHIELD should be on the same night?
More of Emma using her magic and learning :)
ReplyDeleteMainly bringing in Aladdin next season and introduce a new land.
ReplyDeleteOther: NO. NEW. CURSES.
ReplyDeleteBesides that, probably less reliance on plot devices. Plus, stick to your own rules! Stop "killing" people left and right if they're not going to stay dead.
Online population is only a SMALL fraction of viewers. The most we could result in would be a small demo bump, and that's even highly unlikely.
ReplyDeleteGOOD STORYLINES.
ReplyDeleteEnough with pointless characters who dies or leave Storybooke after 11episodes.
We have seen a lot of Elsa/Arendelle in this season and now they're gone forever, while ACTUAL regulars like Belle are constantly ignored and look like guest stars.
Enough with Rumple being bad without a good reason. Eddy & Adam said in a lot of interview that he wasn't trying to do nasty things, he just wanted to be free and he wasn't being evil. Then why did they show him like an asshole? That wasn't Rumple. Rumple is layered and complex. That was a villain. And what irks me is that A&E needed to explain his reasons in interviews. I mean, why couldn't they show his reasons in the episodes?
Less ships.
I'm so done with ships. 11 Episodes of CS and OQ, no Belle (I'm not saying RUMBELLE, I'm saying Belle) development or Will Scarlet... Regina is just a love interest, just like Robin Hood, Hook, Emma, Belle...they exist bc the ship exist. And the fandom is full of crazy shippers who spend their time insulting other ships. So...
more good and CONSISTENTS storylines, more main characters, less pointless characters, less ships and more REAL and good development of single/group storylines. I'm not against couples. I'm against this whole "ship" thing. I'd like to see a good development for Rumple and Belle, Snow and Charming, Regina and Robin etc. I'd like to see them grow as individuals and then together. And I'd like to see EVERY couple, not just the author's favorite one.
The reason ABC doesnt move is that except OUAT and Revenge S2/Ressurection S1 nothing really worked for them in a long run on Sunday.ABC needs OUAT on Sunday so I think they wont move it,although I agree they should.
ReplyDeletePeople hate love the show. Just like I do. I mean I am bit disappoimted with the recent developments but won't give up on the show.
ReplyDeleteBut still think S4B will turn it around as it seema more character driven and will again focus more on Regina, Rumbelle The Charmings.
I knew the ms finale would be a let down but didn't expect that major rating fall. I mean besides Belle chasing away Rumple it was a filler ep but OUAT always does fine when it comes back . Think that the ms eps set up will draw people back. I mean their DVR ratings were great.
But sticking with the same schedule won't help at all. I mean Resurrections melt down couldn't be anticipated. When you look at it, it is reasonable as the writers are just pushing the stories without giving answers buy again, huge lost.
ReplyDeleteOkay now we are getting S&L and it could be a success and help both OUAT and Revenge but still Once should've changed timeslot and let The Whisperers work with Resurrection. Would be a much better fit. Abc really needs to fix Sundays, Tuesdays and some other problem kids
hope you are right :). I am sure all Oncers will fight to keep it around. I know I will. Together we can :)
ReplyDeleteFocus on the great characters that are not there anymore
ReplyDeleteRed Riding Hood, Mulan, Aurora, Ariel
Ariel comes in 4B. :)
ReplyDeleteJust really focus on the main characters I don't mind a new villains each season I do want to see more sword fights and shooting arrows then just magic and it will be cool to see them outside of storybrook but no outsiders finding storybrook other than that I love this show
ReplyDeleteI see your point about characters grow alone and I agree but I'm not against ships they are part of the show. I would not be agaist more SQ & more CS or Rumbelle. Emma grew alone learning to control magic ( thanks to Elsa yes) but alone meanly. Regina is trying to change and she is doing that because she wants to alone. So there is a bit of development of that yet too. In a recent interview A&E said Frozen characters "never say never" so we might see them again.
ReplyDeleteAll I want is more Belle.
ReplyDeleteI want focus on the characters and no more villains. I want the characters to fight against something they have no control over like nature and see them trying to overcome it as a team.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see Jafar as the main villain for the entire season (The end of Wonderland definitely set up for it). I'd also like Emma Rigby to join the cast (at least for multiple guest appearances) if that doesn't happen during 4B.
ReplyDeleteBut I mostly just want the show to go back to Season 1 days and focus mostly on the main characters!!!
Please, yes for a 5th season too... not the first time I ask if it's true and so many explained me very well, why will give a 5th season, so I hope (and Kitsis said in an interview: KITSIS: Yes, they should have hope because this is a show about hope. The minute you lose hope, then nothing will happen.) :-)
ReplyDeleteFocus on the main characters
One big bad for full season (NOT Rumplestiltskin)
Only Enchanted Forest and Storybrook
and RumBelle LOL ;-)
Definitely more focus of the main characters and their individual development - as well as the dynamic they have built together. I would also like to see Robin and Hook having more interaction with characters other than Regina and Emma, but I think that's happening in 4B - at least for Robin with flashbacks as well as his return to Storybrooke.
ReplyDeleteTo make the plot interesting, I also think introducing a new realm of sorts - unknown to all of them - would be the way to go. The obstacle at hand doesn't necessarily have to be a new villain but could be a quest for something else entirely - a mystery of sorts perhaps.
My gut tells me that at the end of season 4, we'll see most of the core characters pretty tight for the most part. Emma and Regina will have become friends, most likely the 4A setup of Emma wanting to prove to Regina that she has her back, will play out in 4B. I also think Robin will become a regular for season 5. The only odd man out will be Rumple who seems to have dug his grave pretty deep at this point. But we'll see.
Also, I don't see any reason for there NOT be a season 5 ratings-wise. On average, 4A has done better than season 3 as far as a can calculate. It is also placed in a tough time slot and still holding its own. My guess is, OUAT will run for at least 6 seasons and at this point the creator may chose to close the book with a happily ever after. The art of knowing when to stop and all :-)
Focus on the main characters and bring back the old ones and their stories, just like in season 1 and 2.
ReplyDeleteI want to know another Red Riding Hood backstory and new one from Blue Fairy, Granny, Gepetto, Cinderella (Anastacia from OUaTiW is her step-sister?), Mad-Hatter, Ariel etc....
I'd rather they focus on the stories of the main characters like Sleeping Beauty, Ruby, Mulan, Ariel Whale, Blue Fairy, etc,,. A Big bad is OK as long as it doesn't cause a big shift away from the main Storybrooke or Enchanted forest characters. The problem with the introduction of these new lands is that once the story is complete, these guest characters move on (or are banished somewhere) and we don't ever seen them again, so the subsequent season feels like their story never happened, which I don't like (eg.. Pan, Zelena, Anna, Ingrid, Elsa). More interaction between people of Storybrooke and people beyond the town line might also be interesting. I think the romantic drama between characters like Emma and Hook or Belle and Rumpel is fine, but it's not enough to sustain the show, so they need to focus on some more interpersonal plots. A personal preference would be for Robin Hood to never come back and for Regina to find someone else, but that's probably not a popular opinion! And if they ever brought back Jefferson, I'd be ecstatic!
ReplyDeleteOne Big Bad for full season: Merlin, Morgana or Hades.
ReplyDeleteFor me, Season 5 needs to be purely about the main characters and the people of /StoryBrooke and their lives and interactions. Find an interesting watchable problem to deal with that does not involve someone being controlled by their heart, or turning evil, or a curse. I watch this show for the regular characters and I want to see all of them moving toward their happy ending. I hope RB find their way back to each other, I sincerely hope that CS does not get ripped apart in the season finale this year after spending the season finally getting them to say I love you to each other. I hope OQ find a way to make that work in time, but, whatever the writers decide the problem is going to be that needs to be solved, I want it to be about the main characters and not the current villain so much that we barely see the regulars and then the guest characters leaves. I don't think any shows should ever ignore their regular characters for even 1/2 a season in order to,showcase a theme or characters that are only around for 11 episodes. I hope that we can see Ruby, Tink all those townsfolk back. I feel like the show is reaching it's shelflife and I hope Season 5 starts to tie things up. I don't want it to go like Lost that got stupid after awhile. It is okay to have couples together and happy, challenged but happy. I really shows that spend so much time developing a couple and then as soon as they are together they find ways to split them up and then they eventually get back together. I have seen so many shows go that route and fans hate it and stop watching. Some come back but many don't. This has already happened with two couples and I hope CS won't be the third as it will affect ratings even more. Season 5 should be about how the regular characters keep their happy endings.
ReplyDeleteOUAT WILL always be a sunday night family show
ReplyDeletei want to see more storys about regina e rumple, charming and evil queen , i want to regina when she was a kid or teenager , regina with small henry relationship , i want to know whats happen with jefferson and his daughter etc etc etc , ouat has a lot of unfinish history
ReplyDeletei for one HATED the one big bad Peter Pan all season Neverland thing Hated it
ReplyDeleteRed was great mulan, Aurora & Ariel couldn't act
ReplyDeleteMerlin Morgana Great Ideas
ReplyDeleteLol "never say never" just like Zelena, Peter Pan, Cora...they say "never say never" but the truth is: you won't see them again. And honestly I don't care. I'm not gonna miss Frozen. And yes, I'm against ships because this was a FAMILY show and now is a ship show because of the fandom. Shows shouldn't change because of the fandom...
ReplyDeleteFocus on the main characters,One big bad villain per season & Introduction to a new land.
ReplyDeleteI'm bored with Storybrooke now, it needs to go and stay in the Enchanted Forest. I'd also love to see the Sanderson Sisters of Hocus Pocus for an episode or two.
ReplyDeleteA 1.7 is still above average in abc. Season 5 is still a sure thing. It would need to fall to a 1.4 or below in order to be in any danger of being renewed.
ReplyDelete5A - Villains (Morgana and Mordred) in Camelot
ReplyDelete5B - Villains (Dracula, Headless Horseman and Chernobog) on Earth without color or horror tales (Dorian Gray, The Phantom of the opera, The fall of the house of Usher and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde)
6A - Villain King of hearts - wanting to resurrect Cora the Queen of hearts - in Wonderland. He releases the Jabberwocky.
6B - Villain Bogeyman the lord of the Netherworld and twin brother of the kind Sandman. Want to defeat his brother to rule the world of dreams.
7A - Villain Dark Faerie recruiting several fairies to take revenge blue fairy that she held. Fairyland.
I´d like a big bad for a whole season, that way they can develop him/her/it better, and also that Storybrooke goes to another land.
ReplyDeleteHahaha. Nice!
ReplyDeleteNo new characters or villains, for god sake. Also a break from magic in Storybrooke.
ReplyDeleteMaybe a new land. MAYBE. But the focus should go to the old ones and the Enchanted Forest, or to the lands already shown.
Nothing new, just the good old Season 1 feelings.
Sadly yes!
ReplyDeleteFocus on main characters and settling into their daily lives. As normal as it can be lol.
ReplyDeleteAlso to see Emma and Hook share a true loves kiss!!!
I would really love to them to bring the Wonderland people back. I miss Ana and Alice, Jaffar and the incredible Jabberwacky i would love to seee that villain seaching for everyones fear and going after them.
ReplyDeleteOne big Villain in my opinion is good. But for something else well we have to have some kind of well necessity which for now at least i don't see. I would like to see more on the characters also, but the problem is that we have not yet seen all of them.
ReplyDeleteI voted for new land, I wouldn't mind to see Camelot, or for them to focus more time on Agrabah (yet to be featured in the original series) and properly tell the story of Aladdin. People vote the most for focus on the main characters; honestly, I want focus on the SUPPORTING characters, by which I mean the original, established ones who never do ANYTHING: Leroy, Ruby, Granny, Archie, Mother Superior, Dr. Whale and the other dwarfs. That's who I wanna see more of.
ReplyDeleteI definitely want to see more focus on the main characters in season 5.
ReplyDeleteRegina is like an angel after the mid-season finale (compared to her previous self) and is friends with Emma and Snow. Emma accepted her powers. Henry has a better relationship with his moms. Gold gave up his good side almost completely. Belle maned up. Relationships between lovers and friends grew or ended, etc.
ReplyDeleteOther: LEAVE POOR REGINA ALONE!!!!
ReplyDeleteOne of the main things that I want to see next season, is for the writers to have complete focus on the main cast. Also for them to stop picking on Regina. Other then that I would be okay with anything they do storyline wise as long as they do those 2 things
ReplyDeleteDefinitely Focus on the Main characters again!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWell, no. Don't leave her alone. We need her to have lots and lots of screen time. But yes, stop tormenting the poor woman non-stop ... It's getting so painful so watch her fighting so hard and getting so little ... I know it's also what makes her a strong and interesting character. But a little happiness ...
ReplyDeleteI think that anyone who kills their own father and punishes an entire kingdom just to satisfy a petty longstanding grudge against a child, should just be happy that people have forgiven her and that she isn't serving 10 consecutive life sentences on death row! Don't get me wrong, I like the new Regina, but the poor-Regina-is a-victim story arc is not befitting to her character and reeks of fanservice. Just because her biggest fans perceive her as this poor downtrodden victim, doesn't mean that the writers need to start writing her that way. It also makes no sense given that her relationship with Henry has improved by leaps and bounds and that she actually does have people in her life who care about her.
ReplyDeleteSo my last wish for this upcoming season, would be for the writers to put an end to her character's constant woe-is-me whining,and have her deal with hardships just like every other character. And maybe they can find someone better than Robin Hood while they're at it, because the guy is a complete and utter douchebag!. But unless she's going to use that magical book to rewrite the lives that she's ruined, or use it to un-kill the father of that poor child that she tried to steal, then this whole quest to rewrite her history is not justified and the writers should drop it.
Take it easy. I'm not defending Regina's cruel past deeds but was commenting on what I think would bring forth a better narrative. The writers have consistently written Regina as a victim of horrid circumstances through the flashbacks from season 2 and forth - hence the depth of her character and the whole plot of how much a person can take before she goes mad. So it's not a sudden burst of fanservice as I see it. Of course you don't have to agree.
ReplyDeleteFinally to see characters live normally in a way abit like season 1. Maybe a new land or even trip to Enchanted Forest
ReplyDeleteEmma getting her own place/home
And yes to a true love kiss between Emma/Hook <3
I think what you're saying now is a little different and that's fine and I agree that the theme of her growing up under terrible circumstances has been explored in all seasons. However, I still think that the "villains don't have a happy ending" sob story was laid on extremely thick in this recent season and was something I didn't notice in the past. The other thing that was also new, was this Regina-centric approach where the circumstances of Regina's life was meant to evoke more empathy than other characters like Marion or the Mirror, who were placed in such an awful position either directly or indirectly because of Regina. I think in the early season, the writers did a much better job on delving into the lives of these other characters but that seemed to be missing a lot (unless you count the Frozen story which I wasn't particularly invested in). But viewers don't have to agree on everything. My preference would be to have more screen time for these other characters rather than lots and lots of Regina screentime as you put it. But not everyone feels that way. The diversity of the cast was one of the cool things of the show and we're not getting that as much.
ReplyDeleteDefintely focus on the main characters and one big bad villain for a full season.
ReplyDeleteI was actually continuing what I already wrote earlier on in the thread where my comment was that I hope for more focus on the main characters. Just did not want to repeat myself. So when I say, we need lots of screen time for Regina that goes for the rest of the main cast as well. I wasn't invested in Frozen either. And though I have nothing against those characters as such, I found that they sidelined the core characters - and had us rush over their stories.
ReplyDeleteI like to see King George return. Whatever happen to him, he like disappear after that one episode in season 2. And like to see focus on the main characters.
ReplyDeleteVoted for Other. I wanna see Hook die and put an end to this godawful Captain Swan relationship.
ReplyDeleteAint happening lol.
ReplyDeleteI like Hook and Emma/Hook! :D peace out!
Focus on main characters and daily lives in some ways. And i would not mind seeing a new land, or i would love there be to be a path there they can go back and forth from SB to EF so they can stay in two lands and still come back - that kind of thing.
ReplyDeleteI love to see them do a pirates theme for abit - Davy Jones etc
Hopefully Emma keeps healing and getting to where her journey is suppose to go with family, love, and home. Because thats always been the story.
Snow and Emma scenes would be nice - mother and daughter bonding.
Emma and Hook - i love you exchanges and importantly THE True Love Kiss. :)
Love to see Ruby and Archie abit more - but as usual this show is about how it fits around these characters and if they are needed. I am cool with that
better writing.
ReplyDeleteNo new villains.
I want GALAVANT in OUAT!!!
ReplyDeleteI didn't say it would, the writers are under some delusion that it's this epic romance story when its turned Hook from being an awesome villain into a lovesick puppy with no other purpose than to please Emma. Everything he does now practically screams "look Emma, I did some good, give me attention please!". The poll asked what people WOULD like to see and I gave my answer. I'm well aware it's not a popular opinion.
ReplyDeleteHe was never a villian in a way you think he was or wanted. We know how he became a pirate due to his brother's death and also then became Hook to get revenge. He wasnt a villian to devastate an entire population. His whole character was always motivated by love. Loss of love. So really love was also going to get him back from the darkness with hope and light. That was how i always saw it going esp when Emma and Hook groundwork was laid so well in the beanstalk episode.
ReplyDeleteAnd to love Emma unconditionally is what Emma deserves coz she NEVER had that. Thats the whole point.
The point was this show is Love and Hope. Love being the inspiration. And i like Hook and his love that led him to such paths in his life and now love brought him back to love and lightness. The whole point. And healing for both Hook and Emma. And his redemption is finally getting back from the darkness and being a better man which he was always deep down. I love the way he loves Emma, comes back to her. Stand by her and fights for her and by her and chooses her. Pretty much the elements of what love is suppose to be in this show.
ReplyDeleteMe too. Waiting for love confession and TLK :)
ReplyDeleteNormal lives and settling in for more time in their own lives. Getting to see more bonding i guess.
ReplyDeleteFamily scenes between the Charmings.
A new realms to discover would be nice.
Would love to see Granny's true love lol
Ruby back for some time and Archie.
I love Snow and Charming to do their apartment up lol - i cant help but think that all the time i see it lol.
Emma and Hook progressing and growing and TLK :)
I'd love to see Aladdin in there somewhere. Anything but Frozen, or Disney villains that have nothing to do with fairy tales!
ReplyDeleteThen they've done a poor job of showing him as any kind of hero. Anything he does is motivated by wanting to look good, not because he himself is a good person.
ReplyDeleteNo matter his motivations, he was a villain and deep down always will be. He was a better side-villain than a hero for people to swoon over. I could never connect with him as a character who was wronged and only did bad things because of someone elses actions. The fact that he did everything that he did invalidates any good he has done since in my eyes and thats why the Captain Swan relationship doesn't work for me. If it works for you and anyone else (which we know it does) then thats perfectly fine, but I don't buy them as a true love relationship no matter what happens on the show because of who he was and deep down, still is.
I disagree. If you think Hook hasnt changed and not understand his character and his fears and self loathing and so on. Then so be it. Such a shame. Because this show thrives on character development. And both Hook and Emma individually and together have had this :)
ReplyDeleteI agree, i would not mind seeing that apartment being done up lol
ReplyDeleteWell life would be dull if we all agreed wouldn't it? :)
ReplyDeleteI'd like to see Regina happy pref with Robin and more scenes of her with Henry and Emma - also to dial back on the villains because so far this season that will be FOUR villains that's if you don't include Gold. It's a bit much.
ReplyDeleteAlso more scenes of Emma and David they are great.
Having one big bad can get a little boring Peter Pan was good but it got frustrating how he was always one step a head, I think OUAT needs more than one a season but the current FOUR in one season is a bit much if they keep up this pace then pretty soon EK and AH will run out of villains for the show!.
ReplyDeleteAgree we need more of this.
ReplyDeleteAgree about the other characters Belle should be a character on her own not just tied to Gold, they've tried to do it but she always ends up back to the wife of Gold.
ReplyDeleteWill Scarlet is great - they HAVE to do something with him I suspect they will they keep eluding to something with the RQ (can't remember if it's Anastasia or something else) the few scenes he's been in have been great.
Gold has been a complete ass this season so far, he was my fave character ever since S1 but this season they've taken a lot of what makes him interesting and trashed it to make him more a villain than anything else they've shown him as, like you said he's complex but they're just showing one side of him and it's not the best side.
I'm a CS fan so the more I get of that the better it's nice to see Emma in this way but I think some of these characters need to stand alone not just in a couple they are GREAT characters and Hook is great in scenes with Emma and without.
"Would love to see Granny's true love lol"
ReplyDeleteGepetto?
It would be. But what you are doing is DISCREDITING everything that is character development in Hook. And Hook/Emma (canon facts and developing) . Thats where the actual main point is that i dont understand. Because your earlier post just told me - i dont care what they do i will NEVER believe it or see it (something like that) :)
ReplyDeleteI am not agreeing or disagreeing with your opinion. As you say it is yours and it is what it is. I am just curious if you think Rumple or Regina should,have relationships and get their happy endings? Again I am,not wanting to argue I just wonder your thought of them.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I can't actually decide what to think of them or if they deserve their happy endings. Rumple is a very flawed but brilliantly written character with a lot of depth and many different sides to his character, he's more fleshed out than Hook in this instance but I don't know if I can, as a viewer, forgive the way he has disregarded Belle in any of his actions and lied to her time and time again. I think I'd rather see him die in the end after maybe regaining Belle's trust but realising that its too late maybe?
ReplyDeleteRegina is another story, however, Something about the way she's written can make you root for her one moment but then want to see her get punched in the face the next. I think if she can stop blaming others for her troubles and look at her own actions then maybe she can get to a place where she should get a happy ending but I'm just not sure if it's too late or not.
So then don't.
ReplyDeleteRumple being a big bad so poor Robert can finally leave. It's been four seasons of him being a villain, let's get to the point.
ReplyDeleteEmma to get a decent love interest/storyline.
Cut dead weight like Hook and Will. Basically if they don't actively contribute to the plot, cut them.
Work on making the good guys less hypocritical.
More attention paid to plot, characterization and continuity. Season 4A had some of OUAT's worst continuity. I'd just like it if the writers cared even a quarter as much as fans.
I can't imagine them moving it to Tuesday against NCIS, especially when Agents of SHIELD has failed so spectacularly there.
ReplyDeleteDo you think NCIS and Shield have the same viewers as Once!?
ReplyDeleteHighly doubt that!
That is a really good perspective and I feel the same. I just really don't know yet about either one and also what I want for either one of them. I go back and forth. I like both characters and in some ways feel that they have been honest in who they are, but in the process have hurt the ones closest to them. And yes I agree that Regina really needs to hold herself accountable and stop depending on others for her happiness or lack of happiness.
ReplyDeleteMore Ariel, bring back Ruby. :)
ReplyDeleteI'm one of those! ;)
ReplyDeletePIRATES
ReplyDeleteI want Belle and Rumple back together! I love Robert Caryle. He IS that show.
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