I know many fans have been looking forward to Colin Salmon’s guest appearance on the show, and he does not disappoint. General Tariq Alaman impresses the court too with his new mix of gunpowder which will give France the edge if the threatening war with Spain comes to anything. The only problem is that his daughter Samira (Antonia Thomas) has been kidnapped by his former colleague, Baltasar (Finbar Lynch). Alaman will only hand over the formula if the Musketeers assist him in brokering a deal for her release. Sounds simple right? Well, it would be if everyone wasn’t so distracted or hiding the truth from each other.
Once more the focus of the episode is very much on identity this week, for all the characters but especially Porthos. He is a larger than life character who very much feels that soldiering is not only his duty, but his family too. Yet we know from what was hinted in
Keep Your Friends Close that there is going to a monumental betrayal of trust at some point this season for him. Treville is harbouring a secret about his past that will undoubtedly change him forever. For now though he is still secure in his belief of who he is and where he belongs, which is what makes it all the more heart-breaking for us as an audience to watch.
As Perales very astutely points out this week, it’s not always evident where Rochefort’s allegiances lie at times. He certainly does hate the Musketeers that much is very clear, and he is intent on driving a wedge between the royal couple, but to what ends. Is he truly a Spanish agent working for Philip, or has his mind been so broken that he genuinely believes that there is a place in the Queen’s heart for him? We take a step deeper into his tortured psyche this week, which answers some questions about his behaviour and why he sees Anne as a kindred spirit of sorts.
Although Rochefort may have to resort to a bit of play acting in order to satisfy his rather twisted needs, it appears that Milady isn’t having a problem getting what she wants. A little more persistence and a touch less of the creepy insanity might be key here I feel. Plus there’s the completely different way that the monarchs cope with the tension when the Dauphin becomes dangerously ill. Both are extremely concerned of course, but while Anne pushes those around her away, Louis seeks to distract himself of his woes.
With the court physician unable to find a cure for the heir, things start to become desperate and Constance feels that she must take action. Regrettably, there are some parts of this side story that don’t quite work for me. There are some lovely subtle moments within it that do work wonderfully too though, so it’s a mixed bag. I can’t help feeling that there may be a deleted scene or two that have been sacrificed for time’s sake which has left some of the narrative feeling a tad awkward in places.
The hangman has been cracked, well done to all that worked it out!
The news that his son is very unwell is just as upsetting for Aramis as it is for the royals. This has an effect on his actions, and his emotions, in the episode. There is a wonderful variation of Paul Englishby’s Musketeer theme when the hostage exchange doesn’t quite run as smoothly as planned.
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The Good Traitor airs on Friday 16th January at 9pm on BBC 1 and BBC 1 HD in the UK, below are a few dialogue teasers to see you through until then. I will fill in any correct guesses on who said what later in the week. Don't forget to come back to vote in our poll after the episode and let us know what you thought.
“I know who I am, and what I am” Porthos to Samira
“The Dauphin is ill, a fever” Constance to d'Artagnan
“A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador” Baltasar to Perales
“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” Bonacieux to Constance
“You shouldn’t be here now” Marguerite to Aramis
“You might have born in this country but that does not make you French” Samira to Porthos
“I expect he knows a little more about medicine than a cloth merchants wife!” Louis to Constance
“I am Spanish, so everything must be my fault” Anne to Rochefort
“Remember how you cried, all those years ago, when you left Spain for your marriage” Rochefort to Anne
“I’m not a nurse, I’m a poet” Samira to Porthos
Trailer Teaser
“Is anyone here but Rochefort willing to do what their King wants?” Louis
About the Author - Sandi
Sandi is part of the Senior Staff at SpoilerTV having been a contributor from back in the Lost days of DarkUFO, and who now writes previews for Banshee, The Musketeers, Atlantis, and other BBC shows. She also enjoys watching and commenting on other shows such as Sons of Anarchy, Hannibal, Game of Thrones and Elementary.
“Remember how you cried, all those years ago, when you left Spain for your marriage” - Must be Rochefort to Anne...?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the advance preview! I hope this time we'll have scene between Athos and Milady!!
ReplyDeleteand I'll give a try:
“I know who I am, and what I am” - Milady or the Queen to ??
“The Dauphin is ill, a fever” - Constance to d'Artagnan
“A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador” - Rochefort to the spanish ambassador
“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” - Marguerite to Aramis or The Queen to Aramis
“You shouldn’t be here now” - Marguerite to Aramis or The Queen to Aramis
“You might have born in this country but that does not make you French” - ???
“I expect he knows a little more about medicine than a cloth merchants wife!” Rochefort to Constance
“I am Spanish, so everything must be my fault” The Queen to Constance or Rochefort
“Remember how you cried, all those years ago, when you left Spain for your marriage” - Rochefort to the Queen
“I’m not a nurse, I’m a poet” - ???
“Is anyone here but Rochefort willing to do what their King wants?” - The King to the Musketeers.
Ouch, poor Porthos. I am hoping that Aramis and the boys will be there for him. Whatever it is, he will be able to handle it with time. I know for sure.
ReplyDeleteA lot of stuff going on, I see.
Very nice preview, Sandi. Thank you! :)
Oooo this does look intriguing!Forgive me but I have to ask on behalf of all the shippers (as well as myself!) will we have any constagnan scenes this episode?
ReplyDeleteSince all the other quotes seem to have been guessed and I agree with them I think I'll have a go at this one "you shouldn't be here now" Anne to aramis?
Lovely preview Sandi - thank you! I'm intrigued by what you say about the dauphin side story with Constance. It's a shame for Tamla if some of her scenes were cut, as she is such a good actress. However, I'm still really looking forward to this episode, especially to see Colin Salmon! :)
ReplyDeleteI'm just wondering Sandi if you feel that the Constance side story (even with it's flaws) serves a larger purpose in her overall story arc? I'm really hoping it doesn't turn into a bit of throw away nonsense. They fell into the trap of trying to do too much in several episodes, last time and I was hoping they wouldn't make that mistake again.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine there'll be time, with Constance on baby-watch and D'Artagnan elsewhere and busy with the gunpowder problem. :(
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to Colin Salmon and Antonia Thomas. I love the idea of Porthos getting to shine and that his character will be explored in greater depth. Even if the Constagnan shipper in me is already feeling somewhat short-changed.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree! I think this is going to be a great episode with Colin and Antonia. The Porthos story arc is going to be really interesting - hope we'll find out a bit more in this episode about the secret Treville has been keeping from him. However, I do hope that we get some development with Constagnan in this episode, otherwise it's all going to feel rushed again, like last year. Not sure we will although, as there is so much going on in this episode.
ReplyDeleteYou're probably right but it's worth remembering that D'Artagnan's first declaration of love to Constance happened during the final 2 minutes of A Rebellious Woman - an episode that was d'Artagnan-light at the side of most episodes.
ReplyDeleteIf there's no serious movement for Constagnan between episodes 4-6, I can see there being a lot of dissapointment for shippers, not to mention a weakening of Constance as a character in terms of her passionate side because I get the impression that she's too 'nice and moral' for some viewers, at the side of the multi-faced Milady who has many sides to her.
You're probably right but theres always hope!
ReplyDeleteGood write-up Sandy. :)
ReplyDeleteI'm pleased to hear that Colin Salmon is as good as people were hoping he'd be, he's quite a striking actor who brings real presence to some of his roles.
I've seen a number of reviews for this episode but none of them mention Porthos having a love interest, so do Porthos and Samira have quite a close relationship? It doesn't have to be really romantic but do they have a nice connection?
Do we get any more banter between Aramis and Porthos or are one / both of them pretty distracted in this episode?
My issue with it is that giving Constance things to do on her own or with other characters is great. If she's given the time and the writing to achieve something. Separating the characters just for the sake of it, is frankly insane. Luca and Tamla have fantastic chemistry with each other and there's a magic when you put them in a scene together. For all the spectacular imagery of the zip wire and underwater sequences in episode one, the single most powerful scene was their moment together in the Garrison. Leaving them to smile at each other across a room or not interact at all for several episodes, is the equivalent of a football manager letting his star players take a gap year to work in Starbucks.
ReplyDeleteIf we're going into episode five and we're still doing subtle moments, e.g. of the blink and you'll miss them variety, I'm going to have a real problem with it. I'll certainly be expecting some big mama pay-off for this. The Constagnan scene to end all Constagnan scenes.
ReplyDeleteI'm also wondering at the moment whether we'll be getting any more personal moments between Louis and Anne? We see them together in public but we rarely see them together in private.
ReplyDeleteI don't mind Constance being given independent storylines, as feel her character deserves to be more than just a love interest. However, it would be a waste if they don't have more scenes with Luca and Tamla in together. As you say, their chemistry is fabulous. The interaction wouldn't necessarily need to be about their love for each other, as that would be clear to see, but it would help the scenes about their relationship have more meaning. In several interviews, Luca has described the ups and downs this year with Constagnan, so there's got to be more than a few glances and smiles.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure there'll be time either. So, we're essentially losing the interaction between one of the most popular couples in the show in exchange for a dream sequence, a vaguely illogical premise for an argument ("Why did you do it? Eh, D'Artagnan don't you remember her husband tried to kill himself? Don't worry Constance didn't either) and a half baked side story. Brilliant.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair to Adrian, he did say that he's got to "balance" d'Artagnan's relationship with Constance and his growth as a Musketeer - not to mention moving forward the storylines of the other Musketeers. The last episode achieved the latter quite well - d'Artagnan's growth and Luke's performance were noted in many reviews and tweets - so as long as Constagnan gets a decent amount of screentime between episodes 4 and 6, we should start getting somewhere.
ReplyDeleteMy fear is that what we will get will be crammed into one or two episodes, as it was last year. That was rushed and deeply unsatisfying.Ultimately I don't think it served the story well either.
ReplyDeleteI worry also that, if, as you say, Constance has a 'weakening' in terms
ReplyDeleteof character, that it might make it easier for the writers to justify
killing her off later. Being at Court is certainly giving her much a welcome chance at development as her own woman, away from D'Artagnan and that twit of a husband, and in this episode certainly, she's got her own solo story, but as has been said, rushed movement in the manner of S1 - i.e. "friends" to "I love you" to "let's break up" in the space of a couple of episodes - would be very frustrating for the shippers a second time.
That said, we've had enough hints and spoilers and pics from Jess and other sources for me to be keeping my fingers crossed they've learned the lesson and will make up for it big-time mid-to-late season. I'm lreally ooking forward to seeing her courage return this episode, as it will surely take a lot to do what it appears she's going to do, and prove D'Artagnan wrong in calling her a coward. Silly boy!
Yep, spot on :)
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome :) You have the 5 guesses correct, nice one!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome :) It is a very busy episode again. I do like how complex things are this season, but maybe it is a little over stretched for the timeslot, maybe it's just me. I dunno, I guess we'll once it's aired, lol.
ReplyDeletePorthos' upcoming story is one I am really looking forward to, only seeds here at present still, but it's coming on nicely.
They seem to be getting on well this episode certainly, but have separate stories really at this point, as we guessed from the press release when it came out.
ReplyDeleteNot Anne who says that one I'm afraid.
Great preview! I am interested to see what I will make of the Constance side story in this episode now. I gotta say it is something that I was looking forward to. I'm trying to think of other things to comment on right now but I can't articulate what I want to say just yet lol so I will try my hand at guessing quotes...
ReplyDelete“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” Anne to Aramis or Constance to D'artagnan?
“You shouldn’t be here now” Anne to Aramis
“I expect he knows a little more about medicine than a cloth merchants wife!” said by Rochefort or the King, not sure to whom
“Is anyone here but Rochefort willing to do what their King wants?” Anne or Louis
I feel like making multiple guesses for each is like cheating in a way but I can never make up my mind ;P
Lovely! Thanks for the review, Sandi!
ReplyDeleteCan you let us know if there are any Constagnan scenes together in this episode? In episode 2, we didn't have any.
Thanks!
As a secondary character, Constance was never going to have a lot of screentime away from the boys but I suppose at the side of Milady - who worked really well last week, despite also being a secondary character - it seems the writing for Constance still needs to step up. I still think she'll be at her best alongside d'Artagnan, getting involved with the action more. Milady did spend much of her screentime in episode 2 with D'Artagnan and Louis.
ReplyDeleteHowever the Musketeers definitely has better pacing than Downton, where some storylines only get 5 minutes screentime per half-series, never mind per episode.
That's a bit of a shame that we don't see a spark of romance. I would really like to see some love in the air for Porthos. He was so lovely with his wealthy widow last year and it brought out a whole new side to him. The rest are well provided for in that department but he's sadly neglected.
ReplyDeleteI think the real problem The Musketeers has is too much to do, too little time. Constance and Queen Anne are holding hands like lifelong buddies having apparently only just met. It was clearly felt that there was no time even for a scene between the two illustrating their growing friendship. The success of Downton Abbey remains a mystery to me. It should be renamed "Posk Frocks and Big Houses." Literally nothing happen over the course of eight episodes and frankly how Julian Fellows got away with putting another of the Bates' in prison, apparently wrong accused of murder is beyond me. He seems to be virtually tephlon where the critics are concerned because if the colossal US success. No other show would get away with it frankly.
ReplyDeleteSandi, thank you. I'm content....if even more frustrated by the FA Cup that I was before.😄
ReplyDeleteWhat did happens to Rochefort if Anne reject him. sentence word is but.
ReplyDeletehow Aramis react to Dauphin's illness and kidnapping. plus Porthos kidnapping.
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid I couldn't even get through one episode of Downton, and I'm a fan of Dame Maggie too. It's far too stuffy for me, period dramas like that don't interest me, I need more action going on for it keep my interest going, lol.
ReplyDeleteHmm, yes and no there on the romance front for me I think. The episode is already stuffed full, and Porthos is gonna be through the ringer enough later on down the line. But on the other hand, some lighter stuff for him would be nice to see too.
ReplyDeleteCheers :) You have two people saying the quotes right, and one of the people it's being said to right :)
ReplyDeleteI'll be filling in all the correct answers so far with the update tonight.
You're welcome Juliet. I've already covered the answer in the comments :)
ReplyDeleteHmm, I'm not sure if I understand you? I think Rochefort is too clever a villain for Anne to discover what he is up to at this point in the show, he is only really himself in front of Perales at the moment. He's too silver tongued and worming his way round people at court for them to work out what he plans are. He even managed to make things up with Constance in the last episode as he knew that she had to be kept on side :)
ReplyDeleteHa! I feel like all they ever do is sit and talk about nothing.
ReplyDeleteSorry i wanted to say he have some feelings for her and how he react if queen not have same feelings for him.
ReplyDeleteThat's the feeling I got from the episode I watched, lol. Very dull and slow, needs more swash and buckle imo ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the preview sandi ! Really good as always
ReplyDeleteBut God what's up with rocheford , (even if I like the baddies in this show) his addiction for the queen, it's gonna be deadly for the heroes , hope Constance or aramis gonna notice somehow. And for milady (love her) but what ?! She's spying like a thief in her dress even if she has the king in her side , if she meet athos like this (ohh wanna see this)
Gonna be an epic episode . thanks again!
He did it last year too, after kissing Constance in the street. ;)
ReplyDeleteHa-ha, thanks.
ReplyDeleteAnd much more leather.....😄
ReplyDeleteWill get a scene between Athos and Milady in episode 3? Hopefully soon!
ReplyDeleteAwesome. Thanks Sandi, can't wait!
ReplyDelete“I know who I am, and what I am”
ReplyDelete“The Dauphin is ill, a fever”
“A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador”
“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?”
“You shouldn’t be here now”
“You might have born in this country but that does not make you French”
“I expect he knows a little more about medicine than a cloth merchants wife!”
“I am Spanish, so everything must be my fault”
“Remember how you cried, all those years ago, when you left Spain for your marriage”
“I’m not a nurse, I’m a poet”
The person who's saying "what are you doing here? Have you, have you come to see me?" sounds surprised and I'm not sure Constance or Margetite would be surprised to find their lovers / admirers paying them a visit.
ReplyDeleteYou're probably right. Although I'm not sure that Constance would be expecting to see D'Artagnan at the moment and he probably wouldn't be exoecting her. I don't doubt it's someone else though.
ReplyDelete"I'm not a nurse, I'm a poet" - Samira to Porthos maybe?
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome Hana, cheers :)
ReplyDeleteHa, yes. I am loving (to hate) the baddies this year, they are just so interesting with layers that them that make them such compulsive viewing for me. You just don't know what they will do next, or how they will effect the leads/plot which is how I like my bad guys to be played. It makes the good guys all the better when they finally turn the tide and win the day at the end :)
I'll have a guess that "What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?" is said by Louis to Milady.
ReplyDeleteHere are a few of my guesses:
ReplyDelete“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” I'm not really sure of this one but if I were to guess, I'd say it's either Louis to Milady, Milady to Louis, or Milady to Athos. Or it could also be Rochefort to Anne.
“A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador” - Treville or Rochefort to Perales.
“I’m not a nurse, I’m a poet” - The poet part sounds like Aramis, but the nurse part... Maybe Marguerite?
I'm really looking forward to this episode. I love Antonia Thomas, she was a favorite of mine in "Misfits," and I'm glad I finally have the opportunity to see her in something else. This season has been amazing so far. Sandy, what can you tell us about Athos and Milady? I tend not to ship anyone on shows - I enjoy the brotherhood in "The Musketeers" much more than the romance, but I love to see actors who have such amazing chemistry together on screen, so I'm really looking forward to an Athos/Milady scene. He brings out the vulnerable part in her, while she brings out the worst in him haha. Also, are we finally going to have a scene between Aramis and the Queen? Again, I don't ship anyone romantically on the show but I enjoy watching the drama unfold and there are so many things left unsaid between them that I'd love for them to have some real interaction.
Yay!!! Got one.😄
ReplyDeleteA countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador” ? General Tariq Alaman to Perales
ReplyDelete“I know who I am, and what I am” Porthos to Samira or treville
“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” Milady to Athos
There's a possibility it could be d'Artagnan to Constance because I think he'd be more surprised to see her approach HIM - after she told him to keep away - than she would be to see him approach her. Maybe it's what he says when Constance goes to tell him about the Dauphin.
ReplyDeleteThanks for that. :)
ReplyDeleteLooking at the opinions of casual viewers - not shippers - I get the sense that the chemistry between Constagnan is on the wane for many of them because Constance is spending too much time standing around Queen Anne being "angelic, motherly and moral" and not enough time showing any passion or the kind of feistiness that she had in S1 - she's lacking "spark" so far this year and in turn, it's making her chemistry with d'Artagnan lack spark. For them, Milady is the strongest female character because she's sexy, independent and complex and Constance is the one who the writers "haven't quite got right yet" and that's a bit disappointing. She needs to be out with the boys again to make her an exciting character rather than a "dull" one.
There's also viewers saying that they want Athos/Milady, Aramis/Marguerite and Aramis/Anne to start getting a bit more screentime too.
Yep, the middle one is Porthos to Samira :)
ReplyDeleteHangman 1st line, wild guess!
ReplyDelete/the/news/that/h**/son/is/very/unwell/
?
Spot on! Well done :)
ReplyDeleteYay, another Misfit's fan, I did love that show. One of the few couples I can say that I have come closest to shipping in my life were Simon & Alisha, lol. How the heck Atlantis isn't as good as Misfits or Dirk Gently is a continued disappointment to me, I'd rather have either of those on my screen still instead.
ReplyDeleteNone of the guesses are correct I'm afraid, the nurse/poet one has been got in the comments now though.
I'm afraid not, sorry.
ReplyDeleteWell done Knitty42! Guess for 1st line - probably wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe/news/that/his/son/is/very/unwell/is/just/so/upsetting/for/Aramis/
**/**/**/***/***/******.
That is practically it, just one word is wrong. Cracking start this week on the hangman :)
ReplyDeleteCheers Michelle! :)
ReplyDeleteJust *as* upsetting?
ReplyDeleteThe/news/that/his/son/is/very/unwell/is/just/as/upsetting/for/Aramis/as/it/is/for/his/mother.
ReplyDeleteMaybe?
It was Knitty42's good start that helped me along. Not sure of the incorrect word yet, but it this on the right lines for first sentence?
ReplyDeleteThe/news/that/his/son/is/very/unwell/is/just/as/upsetting/for/Aramis/
as/it/is/for/the/royals.
I was just about to say ignore me and listen to kynikey! You're probably right. I think our messages may have crossed over before! :)
ReplyDeleteIve seen quite a few attempts at this on,e all of which i had also guessed were the answers but turned out to be wrong so im going to go completely random and guess that "what are you doing here. Have you...have you come to see me?" Treville to alaman (completely random I know!) Or maybe d'artagnan to constance? To be honest at this point I think im just naming any old character and hoping eventually one will be right!
ReplyDelete*****/**/*/w*****fu* - Could this be "There is a wonderful..."
ReplyDeleteThank you for your reply, Sandi. I love the speculation going on around here, I check this page a few times every day to read all the guesses and theories. I loved Misfits, and I absolutely adored Simon and Alisha (I still watch some of their scene of YouTube occasionally), but I stopped watching the show after season 3 - I hated what they did to their storyline and, since most of the original cast was gone, I lost interest in it.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” aramis to anne?
ReplyDeleteYou have the person it is being said to correct - Constance :)
ReplyDelete"There is a wonderful/v......../of/**u* - is correct :)
ReplyDeleteHi Alicherie, welcome to the site! :)
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid not. Emma has now guessed who the line is said to now though, so it's just who says it that needs to be worked out.
I'm glad that you like the conversations here, it's always great to see fans getting on well :)
ReplyDeleteBeing a life long Doctor Who fan I think I'm more used to cast changes in shows, so I wasn't too bothered when they changed in Misfits. Especially when Nathan finally left, he was too one note for me and I found Rudy far more entertaining in that respect. S4 did suffer a bit I think, but the last season was just superb, the strongest since the first one imo.
Oh really?! Haha thats a surprise. Continuing with my random guessing tactic, does margeurite say it perhaps?
ReplyDeleteAlright, still utter nonsense what I'm cooking up here, but I'll give sentence 2 and 3 a try and see what sticks: ;)
ReplyDeleteI think sentence two starts withs This/has/an/effect/on/the/mission
and sentence three might include some of the following maybe?
There/is/a/wonderful/v******** (voiceover?)/of/Paul/Englishby's/Musketeers/theme/when/the (and now it gets absurd) hostage/exchange.....and then I don't know.
“What are you doing here, have you...you come to see me?” Constance husband to Constance
ReplyDeleteCould it be Bonacieux be speaking? he's the only one I can think of with that sort of stuttery voice, and it'd make sense if he's not seen his wife in a while!
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing Bonacieux as well, if he does actually appear in this episode..
ReplyDeleteI was just thinking that if Bonacieux was a more likeable character, more viewers would sympathise with Constance's dilemma but as it is, when she was listing all the reasons why she can't just leave her marriage to d'Artagnan, at no point did she say that she does love Bonacieux in her own way. We know Anne doesn't love Louis in a romantic way but she does seem to love him like a sister but with Constance, she doesn't even seem to feel in that way about Bonacieux.
How about 'variation'? Can't be 'Musketeers' though, it doesn't fit.
ReplyDeletei think she went to him with royal baby and ask help or he just found her at home.
ReplyDeleteOh, variation's a good one, that might just fit! I saw that Musketeers doesn't really fit, I'm just hoping for a typo. It happens occasionally. ;)
ReplyDeleteA typo would be easier - I don't have a clue what it could be otherwise!
ReplyDeleteOk, I think I got the whole sentence, I updated my previous post.
ReplyDeleteYep, that's correct. It's Bonacieux :)
ReplyDeleteThat's one of the problems I have with the situation if I'm honest. I know he is a fool at times, but he's not a total villain and doesn't beat her or anything terrible like that. I do feel that she should have brought up her husband's side of it all in that conversation too. I just cannot get behind an affair for any 'good guy' in her situation I'm afraid...but you know my feelings on this already, lol.
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid I can't see the end of your line as it's run over the end of the page, but it looks like it's on the right lines :)
ReplyDeleteSentence two starts off correct too. Nice one :)
Alright, I'll try again: There is a wonderful variation of Paul Englishby's Musketeers theme when the hostage exchange doesn't quite run as smoothly as expected.
ReplyDeleteThat's it, well done :)
ReplyDeleteI think that's one of their major problems in navigating Constagnan, they just don't know what to do about "the husband". This version of Bonacieux is simply a dull, vain, rather pathetic bore who married a much younger woman to flatter his ego and is now repenting at leisure. He's cursed by not being a gorgeous, exciting, five times a night, young stud muffin.:) I have a feeling that instead of taking this opportunity to demonstrate that he's not a wicked man, we'll see him acting like a fool once again. If they want to make it interesting, make him a fundamentally decent man, or make him a scum-bag but right now he's just a tedious road block and as you say Sandi, it's clear that Constance's concerns about the affair are entirely based on how she would be perceived and how she would survive if D'Artagnan was to be killed. There was no mention of the "suicide attempt" or of any sense of duty or obligation to Bonacieux. It's clear she doesn't love him and he knows that. The marriage is dead in every way that matters. The tragedy of it is that both sides must endure it but that isn't, or hasn't been drawn out at this point.
ReplyDeleteI think the writers have very much dropped the ball when it comes to Bonacieux and how viewers are meant to perceive him. If he was a villian, most viewers would be crossing their fingers about Constagnan getting back together. If he was a sympathetic character, most viewers would understand why Constance was reluctant to just walk out on her marriage. But instead we're got this strange mix of the two, not helped by the fact that Bonacieux gets virtually no screentime or that Constance said nothing about how her leaving would affect her husband..
ReplyDeleteIt's another reason why the Constagnan relationship needs to get going whatever happens, in order for viewers to really see all the emotions and problems involved in having an affair..
I know that Aramis and Marguerite have barely had any screen-time together but that actually helps sell the fact that at the moment, Aramis is more concerned about his son.
I'm not convinced just yet that the writers have dropped the ball. It may have been quite deliberate on their part that Boncieux didn't come into that conversation at the garrison. While Constance and D'Artagnan are apart and Constance is living at the Palace, there's little reason for her husband or his feelings to be addressed, and it may be that the whole thing is meant to build to a head later on, after Constance and her Musketeer (presumably) get back together. From the way Bonacieux was looking at her in that scene with Anne, I
ReplyDeletesuspect long-awaited character development is on the way for him - and not in a good way. Constance's moral dilemmas over him and her relationship with him may then have time to be addressed.
Frankly, I think her speech was more about showing up D'Artagnan's immaturity and unfair expectations of her. If it's meant to be a slow-burn arc, her talking of her husband's feelings or reputation at this point may have been premature.
On a completely different note, I want this woman's job....badly.....http://t.co/3qG0GSfEFP
ReplyDeleteMe too - where do I sign up??? :)
ReplyDeleteI definitely think we will see this being explored a lot more and I really hope that we start to see this all play out soon. I have confidence in the writers that this will be explored properly. However, I do agree with Sandi that I do have a problem with him not being a villain or horrible character. I am hoping that the jealousy he will feel over d'Artagnan will lead to him becoming part of Rochefort's scheming ways.
ReplyDeleteI think this is possibly the most interesting arc for him and would certainly be consistent with his character. He'd be flattered by Rochefort's attention and insincere charm. His pride and vanity rather than his heart will be damaged if Constance does return to D'Artagnan, as seems almost certain. In his anger and desire for revenge, he could be easy pickings for Rochefort. If he does become entangled in his web, he'll regret it.
ReplyDelete“You might have born in this country but that does not make you French” Samira or Perales
ReplyDelete“A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador” ? Rochefort to Perales
Wondering whether it is "actions" for 7th word of the second line?
ReplyDeleteThis/has/an/effect/on/the/actions, /**/***/********,
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Sandi, just a heads up: the BBC have the summary for episode 5 up, however, they also have it scheduled on January 30th. So they seem to be completely confused about what's going on in their schedule as well...
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid not :)
ReplyDeleteAlmost there. Sorry I'm late today, I'll update in a few minutes :)
ReplyDeleteCheers for the heads up. I'll set up a post for ep 5 after updating the hangman, then try and find out what is going on :)
ReplyDeleteHis actions maybe instead of the actions?
ReplyDelete“You might have born in this country but that does not make you French - Anne
ReplyDelete"You might have been born in this country but it does not make you french." - Samira to Porthos
ReplyDeleteCorrect guess, I've filled it in. Just one to get now.
ReplyDeleteYou have to bear in mind that if it's a quote that would be too spoilery it probably won't make it into the preview unfortunately, chances are it would be embargoed :( lol
Yep, I noticed that I had missed out a letter there in that word when I first made the hangman, sorry.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with Bonacieux is that even in the book he embodied the underdeveloped stock senex amans trope. Which may be sufficiently adequate for a novel of the time, but isn't playing well on screen. The writers just don't seem sure what to do with him or which direction to take him. So he's inconsistent and flat.
ReplyDeleteI'll guess at "A countries most powerful weapon in war is hatred, you should learn that ambassador?" being said by Baltasar to Perales.
ReplyDeleteStill struggling with the hangman - think we have guessed so far at "This has an effect on his actions, and his emotions, /**/***/*****d*. for the second line but not sure if this is correct? Goodness knows how a 'q' and 'x' are going to fit into the rest. :)
Correct it is said by Baltasar.
ReplyDeleteYou have the first part of the sentence correct. The X and Q have already been used in the parts that have been worked out ;)
Thanks Sandi :)
ReplyDeleteJust noticed, that's all the quotes correctly guessed this week. Nice one :)
ReplyDeleteMaybe the last part is simply "in the episode"? So "This has an effect on his actions, and his emotions, in the episode."
ReplyDeleteThat could be right!!! I'm just off out for a couple of hours but will check back later. Fingers crossed! ;)
ReplyDeleteCorrect. I'll edit the post :)
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