I only saw the last half hour of this ep. The ending was excellent and scary. Will they let Caroline's mom live? I was hoping Kai had given Elena back her memories. What a shame he didn't. But she is getting back with Damon. I still want the writer's to give her memories back.
Why didn't Caroline just stay at the hospital longer and wait to see if there were any long-term effects? I don't get that at all. She only waited like a hour and then just left and now that guy is probably a vampire.
I hope Elena never gets a new daylight ring. We need less daywalkers on this show.
I also don't see why Stefan couldn't have stayed with Sarah and sent Enzo to help Caroline or whatever - since Enzo is into her
that's what i said, they should've kept watch on him and that was a horrible death i mean aren't doctors and nurses there it's not an abandoned hospital for goodness sakes, so that was little hard to believe, and Stefa and should've taken Enzo with him
Noo liz is gonna die!!!! I can see it coming :( Idc Elena was kidnapped, she can help herself. Enzo is a bore! Still dont know if i care if liv or luke might die. As for Jeremy, no wonder hes leaving the show, wont make a difference with him gone. But i miss Bonnie. Where is Bonnie???
So Liz possible transformation into a vampire. Few Steroline-thank you God! Elena laugh, really ?? I was afraid that it is something. Deleny can not stand, but the scene as saved Elene, pretty charming. I like that Alarick and Jeremy helped Damon and Jo. I have not seen such a collaboration. Episode pretty cool. I really liked the scene Elena and Kai !! Kai is great.
Is Elena not the biggest bitch for making Damon think she was about to die with a splinter in her heart?! This girl is twisted. I'm glad Stefan and Caroline can have normal sweet interactions again instead of angst filled ones. I really hope its not Caroline's blood that is the cause of Mama Forbes demise. It will destroy her!
great episode, Kai is so sadistically evil, Caroline what did you just do? this going to hurt so much, Elena that was such a mean joke but it was cute the way Damon and Elena looked at each other, Damon and the Doc talking about Alaric was hilarious, so now we have a mini-Big Bad and a super Big Bad in Enzo and Kai
There's a pic of Candice & Nina with JP (she's directing the episode) in their funeral outfits that someone twitter/put on instagram. They also cast mourners and were filming at a funeral home yesterday.
Steroline is one of the slowest moving ships this show has ever had, and people STILL claim they're being forced. For any other ship on this show, that porch scene would have ended in a kiss. Stefan and Caroline hold hands for about five seconds. And Steroline is being forced? Seriously?
Because for years they were just friends. The romance is just out of nowhere. Caroline always saw Stefan as Elena's epic love/soulmate. She never wanted to be with him herself.
Yo mean relationships EVOLVE? Whoa! Who knew that your feelings could change? That someone who you saw as a friend before, you can start seeing as someone more than that with changing circumstances?
And it's not like this suddenly happened. They started making it pretty obvious that Caroline was slowly getting feelings for Stefan last season. It happened over the span of the entire final half of that season.
Every single other ship on this show developed FAR faster. And just for the record, they haven't had any romance yet! I know in this show the fans define romance as threatening to kill each other, but Stefan holding Caroline's hand like that is the most romantic thing that's happened between them so far.
And the first half of this season has been about Caroline hating him, so no romance there. The thought that this is going too fast is all in your hands. It's still in the development stages, but you guys are acting like they're already in a relationship.
But there's nothing wrong with two people just being friends an never getting romantic. Caroline has never had that - she no longer has any male friends that hasn't become romantic.
Do you remember the fist few episodes of season 1? Caroline liked Stefan back when Stefan first moved into town and Caroline was the 'mean self-centered girl', she actually got upset after being turned down. So it's clear that there was an attraction on Caroline's behalf.
There was like no Delena drama whatsoever. Delena was much more sweet than 'firey' this episode. But yeah, they should have kept watch on him. I think he died died, not vampire-died.
But they were talking about going on a date and being sappy instead of FINDING BONNIE. Their romance should not be taking prescience over trying to get Bonnie back - that's what they should be doing, not going on dates.
I agree. I'd rather the actor used his talents in a different role rather than hang around in season 7. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers tried to keep him, but I hope he resists. He could easily carry his own show.
Someone please give whoever Damon talks to a hug or something. Seriously, first Liz and Caroline, then Alaric. Damon's being extra blunt this season. I like his brutal honesty but...seriously, I feel bad for his friends. Kai FTW!!!! He was brilliant. Enzo WTF? I like Enzo's character, but could he be more pathetic? C'mon, you're wasting this dude. I think Liz's death is inevitable. They're not gonna be able to save her. Such a shame. She's such a good character. Not to mention the only parent left.
Brilliant direction by paul wesley! This episode was so well-written & acted,i was really surprised.I liked all the scenes-especially those between dalaric,even delena,wonder twins & kai-elena conversation.Kai is a fantastic villain,probably the best they've brought o this show after kat & klaus.Although i don't enzo's stalker-ish behaviour,i have to say i want to see what is plan here in the long-term.The caroline-liz moments were so well portrayed & emotional.That final 2 mins was really gut-wrenching & heartbreaking! Can't wait for the next episode-The merger event is happening!!
That's coz we don't know anything about his life.His past life will be revealed soon as per caroline dries.Maybe then,people will become a little less harsh towards the guy-i wish.I really can't stand all this enzo hate all the time.It's really tough.
But he's done nothing to earn love. I liked him in five and even the beginning of six (his loyalty to Damon for a while was admirable as was his love for Maggie). All he does now is kill innocents and try to f*ck with Stefan out of some weird loyalty to Damon (yet fails to understand Stefan's pod or how his actions will hurt Damon). But you're right hopefully learning about his past will help change that. But Im really sick of his vendetta at this point.
Enzo is a good character personality-wise. One thing I really loved about him is his loyalty towards the people he cares about like Maggie, Damon and Caroline. (Who am I kidding I'm a big Denzo fan) but the thing is what he's doing makes...no sense. I'm not the kind of person to hate a character blindly, I have my reasons and I even defend the characters I hate, god knows how many times I defended Elena. But when it comes to Enzo, a character that I like, I really have nothing to defend. He's not making sense. He's been whining about Damon the entire time he was gone, and when he's back, they've got like a total of two minutes screen time together. And he's obsessed with hurting Stefan somebody who is very close to the only people Enzo cares about in his life -Damon and Caroline-. I take it he might not be a bit brain-damaged and mentally unstable because of being physically tortured for 70 years as an experimental lab rat but he did make a bit sense in season 5. He wasn't that big of a crazy pants. He's obsession with hurting Stefan made sense once, the dude tried to kill him. But haven't Enzo got his revenge like...a hundred times? I mean even Damon stopped after a while. I like him but I get why others don't.
Can't argue with this kind of logic!I feel really sorry for michael malarkey.He never should've agreed to come back this season,staying dead was a better option than this.I bet if kai stays beyond this season,the writers would totally destroy his character too in season 7!
Yeah there's a lot of spoilers I stay away from.Especially with my big, most important shows, (aka all my CW shows). I love to stay in the dark, keeps me on my toes, and iI just love that i can have a whole bunch on theories and see if i'I'm right or wrong. Makes me feel good when I can "read the writers" Been doing it like that for years. (And I love to be surprised)
Eww, you said the K word. You should actually read the rant on my post about her. The one we were on yesterday I think? With the promotional pics. I think u'll agree.
Well Julie and co needed to keep the delena stans happy so what better way than to kill liz and make stefan feel uber guilty and obligated to date her! what is not romantic about that!
I do hope you realize that you're playing the opinion card about me having an opinion, when I didn't say one single thing about anyone not deserving theirs. All I did was disagree with him. If not agreeing with him is your criteria for disrespecting his right to an opinion, then you just did the same to me, making you a giant hypocrite.
If you're going to play the opinion card, at least play it right.
Elena teasing Damon - I thought that was strange at first but I wonder if that had anything to do with her memories - similar to how she put fangs on the pancakes, instinctively put her arms around him when they danced, remembering his phone #, holding hands, even their conversations at times are like an old married couple. She is drawn to him w/o even trying. Damon told her their are something you cannot erase...and she could be slowly getting her memories back and this was just another sign of that. I think the flashback scenes will provide a lot of explanation.
I personally thoguht it was awesome, great improvement from last episode, which I thought was a little bit of a dissapointment. Loved every scene, and PW directed it great.
I'd be highly upset if she turned off her humanity right when they were getting closer. That's actually a fear of mine (that i've been thinking for awhile). I wouldn't like that at all.
LOL at Enzo calling Stefan a sociopath if they're going for "it takes one to know one" kind of deal and Stefan turns out to have a ton of dark secrets which Enzo will uncover like some people suggested, then having to bear this stupid arc will be worth it. otherwise Enzo needs to die asap! preferably by Stefan.
Monica and Chandler were just friends for years too.. and they ended up being perfect for eachother. And nobody thought that was forced.. I know Friends and TVD are two COMPLETLY different shows .. but still.. sometimes a friendship can grow into an epic love. Sometimes you have no idea that the person who is perfect for who is right in front of you.. Things like that happen! In real life too.. So i don't think Steroline is forced.
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i loved the ep, the ending was super sad tho, I don't want Liz to die so soon, I hoped she'd be around for a few more eps..
ReplyDeleteI only saw the last half hour of this ep. The ending was excellent and scary. Will they let Caroline's mom live? I was hoping Kai had given Elena back her memories. What a shame he didn't. But she is getting back with Damon. I still want the writer's to give her memories back.
ReplyDeleteI could have done without the Delena drama.
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't Caroline just stay at the hospital longer and wait to see if there were any long-term effects? I don't get that at all. She only waited like a hour and then just left and now that guy is probably a vampire.
I hope Elena never gets a new daylight ring. We need less daywalkers on this show.
I also don't see why Stefan couldn't have stayed with Sarah and sent Enzo to help Caroline or whatever - since Enzo is into her
that's what i said, they should've kept watch on him and that was a horrible death i mean aren't doctors and nurses there it's not an abandoned hospital for goodness sakes, so that was little hard to believe, and Stefa and should've taken Enzo with him
ReplyDeletei know i'm probably in denial but maybe she WON'T die
ReplyDeleteNoo liz is gonna die!!!! I can see it coming :( Idc Elena was kidnapped, she can help herself. Enzo is a bore! Still dont know if i care if liv or luke might die. As for Jeremy, no wonder hes leaving the show, wont make a difference with him gone. But i miss Bonnie. Where is Bonnie???
ReplyDeleteShe will. They're filming the funeral episode right now.
ReplyDeleteHow do u know this?
ReplyDeletesame here especially when she said" i've never felt so alive" but nope, but she's getting back together and that amazing
ReplyDeletethat sucks i guess i'll still be in denial even after
ReplyDeletewhat do you think of a massive showdown with Bonnie and Kai, they did kill each other LOL
ReplyDeleteSo Liz possible transformation into a vampire. Few Steroline-thank you God! Elena laugh, really ?? I was afraid that it is something. Deleny can not stand, but the scene as saved Elene, pretty charming. I like that Alarick and Jeremy helped Damon and Jo. I have not seen such a collaboration. Episode pretty cool. I really liked the scene Elena and Kai !! Kai is great.
ReplyDeleteThat would be awesome. Bonnie FTW
ReplyDeletei think when Elena said what's wrong with Kai she was like the audience LOL
ReplyDeleteIs Elena not the biggest bitch for making Damon think she was about to die with a splinter in her heart?! This girl is twisted.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Stefan and Caroline can have normal sweet interactions again instead of angst filled ones.
I really hope its not Caroline's blood that is the cause of Mama Forbes demise. It will destroy her!
i can definitely see Caroline turning her humanity off, i couldn't before but i can now
ReplyDeletegreat episode, Kai is so sadistically evil, Caroline what did you just do? this going to hurt so much, Elena that was such a mean joke but it was cute the way Damon and Elena looked at each other, Damon and the Doc talking about Alaric was hilarious, so now we have a mini-Big Bad and a super Big Bad in Enzo and Kai
ReplyDeleteI think Liz will probably chose to die instead of become a vampire (just like Caroline's dad did).
ReplyDeleteyeah it would
ReplyDeleteThere's a pic of Candice & Nina with JP (she's directing the episode) in their funeral outfits that someone twitter/put on instagram. They also cast mourners and were filming at a funeral home yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI hope not, everyone and their mother mother has turned off their humanity already or so it certainly feels like it
ReplyDeletemaybe both luke and liz will bite it and hey, lets throw tyler in as well. these three bore me
ReplyDeleteU mean liv right?
ReplyDeleteSteroline is one of the slowest moving ships this show has ever had, and people STILL claim they're being forced. For any other ship on this show, that porch scene would have ended in a kiss. Stefan and Caroline hold hands for about five seconds. And Steroline is being forced? Seriously?
ReplyDeleteBecause for years they were just friends. The romance is just out of nowhere. Caroline always saw Stefan as Elena's epic love/soulmate. She never wanted to be with him herself.
ReplyDeleteAgreed
ReplyDeletethe Delena here was so awesome, yeah i like Luke and is it weird that when Kai talking about murdering an innocent person we think it's funny?
ReplyDeleteHe's sadistic and sarcastic, what's not to like? lol He's the greatest villian right now. He reminds me of Klaus when Klaus FIRST came on the scene.
ReplyDeleteYo mean relationships EVOLVE? Whoa! Who knew that your feelings could change? That someone who you saw as a friend before, you can start seeing as someone more than that with changing circumstances?
ReplyDeleteAnd it's not like this suddenly happened. They started making it pretty obvious that Caroline was slowly getting feelings for Stefan last season. It happened over the span of the entire final half of that season.
Every single other ship on this show developed FAR faster. And just for the record, they haven't had any romance yet! I know in this show the fans define romance as threatening to kill each other, but Stefan holding Caroline's hand like that is the most romantic thing that's happened between them so far.
And the first half of this season has been about Caroline hating him, so no romance there. The thought that this is going too fast is all in your hands. It's still in the development stages, but you guys are acting like they're already in a relationship.
But there's nothing wrong with two people just being friends an never getting romantic. Caroline has never had that - she no longer has any male friends that hasn't become romantic.
ReplyDeleteI think they're both so lonely an pathetic at this point in the show that its disgusting
ReplyDeleteDamn it with JP in control 3/4's of the episode is gonna be Damon and Elana making out.
ReplyDeleteI approve of anything that makes Stefan and Caroline smile like they did during that porch scene. The fact that thing is each other is a nice bonus.
ReplyDeleteDo you remember the fist few episodes of season 1? Caroline liked Stefan back when Stefan first moved into town and Caroline was the 'mean self-centered girl', she actually got upset after being turned down. So it's clear that there was an attraction on Caroline's behalf.
ReplyDeleteThere was like no Delena drama whatsoever. Delena was much more sweet than 'firey' this episode.
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, they should have kept watch on him. I think he died died, not vampire-died.
Yes! I really loved Elena this episode! I'm usually neutral positive, but this episode I wanted to give her a hug!
ReplyDeleteshe will die in episode Stay
ReplyDeleteEnzo's whole story line is a total waste. And to top it, he is a series regular. I hope he dies by the end of this season.
ReplyDeleteBut they were talking about going on a date and being sappy instead of FINDING BONNIE. Their romance should not be taking prescience over trying to get Bonnie back - that's what they should be doing, not going on dates.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I'd rather the actor used his talents in a different role rather than hang around in season 7. I wouldn't be surprised if the producers tried to keep him, but I hope he resists. He could easily carry his own show.
ReplyDeleteSomeone please give whoever Damon talks to a hug or something. Seriously, first Liz and Caroline, then Alaric. Damon's being extra blunt this season. I like his brutal honesty but...seriously, I feel bad for his friends.
ReplyDeleteKai FTW!!!! He was brilliant.
Enzo WTF? I like Enzo's character, but could he be more pathetic? C'mon, you're wasting this dude.
I think Liz's death is inevitable. They're not gonna be able to save her. Such a shame. She's such a good character. Not to mention the only parent left.
Brilliant direction by paul wesley!
ReplyDeleteThis episode was so well-written & acted,i was really surprised.I liked all the scenes-especially those between dalaric,even delena,wonder twins & kai-elena conversation.Kai is a fantastic villain,probably the best they've brought o this show after kat & klaus.Although i don't enzo's stalker-ish behaviour,i have to say i want to see what is plan here in the long-term.The caroline-liz moments were so well portrayed & emotional.That final 2 mins was really gut-wrenching & heartbreaking!
Can't wait for the next episode-The merger event is happening!!
Zach also posted their funeral suit pic with michael trevino on Instagram.
ReplyDeleteI really believe Bonnie would be the one to take Kai down once and for all!
ReplyDeleteHe is a psychopath,he needs to get killed horribly by season finale!
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't justify killing people left and right with no remorse.
ReplyDeleteSo what is kai doing this season?Charity work?What about damon for all these seasons?Keep in mind i like both the characters,so no bias here.
ReplyDeleteThat's coz we don't know anything about his life.His past life will be revealed soon as per caroline dries.Maybe then,people will become a little less harsh towards the guy-i wish.I really can't stand all this enzo hate all the time.It's really tough.
ReplyDeletecan Kai be neat right now as a villain? LOL
ReplyDeleteI didn't read the books.Does klaus have any family in the books?
ReplyDeleteif you think about is it's sort of like a rite of passage for the vampires here
ReplyDeleteno siblings, Elijah, and Rebekah and the others are original
ReplyDeleteBut he's done nothing to earn love. I liked him in five and even the beginning of six (his loyalty to Damon for a while was admirable as was his love for Maggie). All he does now is kill innocents and try to f*ck with Stefan out of some weird loyalty to Damon (yet fails to understand Stefan's pod or how his actions will hurt Damon). But you're right hopefully learning about his past will help change that. But Im really sick of his vendetta at this point.
ReplyDeleteIt's really awkward for me-How did i end up loving a charactr so much which everyone hates so much.That never happens to me!Damn you,michael malarkey!
ReplyDeleteJulie did say they all were so impressed with daniel gilles's portrayal of elijah,they decided to create this whole family storyline with immortality!
ReplyDeleteEnzo is a good character personality-wise. One thing I really loved about him is his loyalty towards the people he cares about like Maggie, Damon and Caroline. (Who am I kidding I'm a big Denzo fan) but the thing is what he's doing makes...no sense. I'm not the kind of person to hate a character blindly, I have my reasons and I even defend the characters I hate, god knows how many times I defended Elena. But when it comes to Enzo, a character that I like, I really have nothing to defend. He's not making sense. He's been whining about Damon the entire time he was gone, and when he's back, they've got like a total of two minutes screen time together. And he's obsessed with hurting Stefan somebody who is very close to the only people Enzo cares about in his life -Damon and Caroline-. I take it he might not be a bit brain-damaged and mentally unstable because of being physically tortured for 70 years as an experimental lab rat but he did make a bit sense in season 5. He wasn't that big of a crazy pants. He's obsession with hurting Stefan made sense once, the dude tried to kill him. But haven't Enzo got his revenge like...a hundred times? I mean even Damon stopped after a while. I like him but I get why others don't.
ReplyDeleteCan't argue with this kind of logic!I feel really sorry for michael malarkey.He never should've agreed to come back this season,staying dead was a better option than this.I bet if kai stays beyond this season,the writers would totally destroy his character too in season 7!
ReplyDeleteyeah
ReplyDeleteNo he doesn't.
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean equally good to "take out Kai" I meant equally good on the Villain aspect of it all.
ReplyDeleteYeah there's a lot of spoilers I stay away from.Especially with my big, most important shows, (aka all my CW shows). I love to stay in the dark, keeps me on my toes, and iI just love that i can have a whole bunch on theories and see if i'I'm right or wrong. Makes me feel good when I can "read the writers" Been doing it like that for years. (And I love to be surprised)
ReplyDeleteEww, you said the K word. You should actually read the rant on my post about her. The one we were on yesterday I think? With the promotional pics. I think u'll agree.
shessus people can have a different opinion than you! and if we feel steroline is forced you saying it isn´t will not change anything
ReplyDeleteWell Julie and co needed to keep the delena stans happy so what better way than to kill liz and make stefan feel uber guilty and obligated to date her! what is not romantic about that!
ReplyDeleteAwesome episode, but too bad for her mother i hope she doesn't die like this guy did.
ReplyDeleteSo... No Bonnie? Well,then there is one less thing to watch this week. Cause, sorry,don't care about Elena.At all.
ReplyDeleteI do hope you realize that you're playing the opinion card about me having an opinion, when I didn't say one single thing about anyone not deserving theirs. All I did was disagree with him. If not agreeing with him is your criteria for disrespecting his right to an opinion, then you just did the same to me, making you a giant hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteIf you're going to play the opinion card, at least play it right.
Good. Poor Liz. I want Enzo dead
ReplyDeleteElena teasing Damon - I thought that was strange at first but I wonder if that had anything to do with her memories - similar to how she put fangs on the pancakes, instinctively put her arms around him when they danced, remembering his phone #, holding hands, even their conversations at times are like an old married couple. She is drawn to him w/o even trying. Damon told her their are something you cannot erase...and she could be slowly getting her memories back and this was just another sign of that. I think the flashback scenes will provide a lot of explanation.
ReplyDeleteMaybe then steroline can happen...
ReplyDeleteI personally thoguht it was awesome, great improvement from last episode, which I thought was a little bit of a dissapointment. Loved every scene, and PW directed it great.
ReplyDeleteI'd be highly upset if she turned off her humanity right when they were getting closer. That's actually a fear of mine (that i've been thinking for awhile). I wouldn't like that at all.
ReplyDeleteLOL at Enzo calling Stefan a sociopath
ReplyDeleteif they're going for "it takes one to know one" kind of deal and Stefan turns out to have a ton of dark secrets which Enzo will uncover like some people suggested, then having to bear this stupid arc will be worth it. otherwise Enzo needs to die asap! preferably by Stefan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGjJI8YeYo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ReplyDeleteCheck out this awesome Kai video i just saw. Omg the way this person remixed the music is sooo badass! It fits Kai so much!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGjJI8YeYo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ReplyDeleteKai video!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLGjJI8YeYo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ReplyDeleteBest villain ever.
I don't know if I am being stupid or just missing something but why did they not kill Kai once he had been knocked out?
ReplyDeleteBecause Jo doesn't want them to kill him because then Luke and Liv would have to do the merge, and that means one of them dies
ReplyDeleteOmg.. that's awesome!!
ReplyDeletei know, right? It's really hard to love Enzo these days while everyone hates him
ReplyDeleteRight??? With the mix too!! Whatttt. Mind blown. Dude, i watched that vid like 8 times. LOL Kai is awesome!
ReplyDeleteHe needs to die regardless.... he's just annoying and creepy
ReplyDeleteMonica and Chandler were just friends for years too.. and they ended up being perfect for eachother. And nobody thought that was forced.. I know Friends and TVD are two COMPLETLY different shows .. but still.. sometimes a friendship can grow into an epic love. Sometimes you have no idea that the person who is perfect for who is right in front of you.. Things like that happen! In real life too.. So i don't think Steroline is forced.
ReplyDeleteI just watched it like 8 times too!! And I'm at work hahaha
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha nice!
ReplyDeleteawesome video
ReplyDeletei hope so
ReplyDeleteno yeah i know, but it's just that Kai brings something new to TVD that i don't think anyone can match Chris Wood's performance
ReplyDeleteAgreed.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it's awesome. Lol
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