Brick killed Tommy's mom? I didn't see that one coming. And seriously they don't see the cameras Malcolm planted??????? And when did he even plant them? Seriously an amusement park is more secure and secret then the foundry!!!!!!!! This is ridiculous! Anyway.. Am I the only one who felt sad to see the Arrow suit hanging in the background?
So that's why Malcolm suits up and helps Team Arrow take down Brick. That's a plot twist I didn't see coming. This just made me even more hyped for Wednesday!
AGAIN! GET A NEW LAIR FOR GOODNESS SAKES!!! it's getting very annoying and i don't get annoyed with Arrow but what the hell are they waiting for to make them move the Lair to a more secure place, an earthquake? psychopaths? the League of Assassins? oops that all happened. Got all ranty there but damn it it's really getting on my nerves, and honestly are they all so blind that they don't see that huge camera on top of the monitor?! AAARGGHHH!!!!!
This is a writing issue, it's got nothing to do with Felicity's character. From what they've sold us over the past few years, she's a genius who went to MIT-no way would she be stupid enough to ever have a camera in the place where they conduct illegal vigilante activities.
We should cut her some slack though. She has a lot on her mind. She just lost the love of her life a couple of weeks ago and is busy making googly eyes at her stalkery boss plus she is busy deceiving Lance, all that in a matter of weeks. Who has the time to notice these things?!
I have to admit I hate her dresses, most of them at least. I pray that I see her at least once in tight jeans and a blouse or something. What woman always wears dresses and high heels these days?
I actually predicted this when it was said we will get Malcolm flashbacks this episode. Didn't predict the spying on the lair. I thought he already knew.
Not sure why people are complaining about the camera. Pretty sure those monitors have a camera built in and all he did was put his camera over the one already on there which if Felicity isn't looking for it wouldnt notice it.
gotta say season 1b and season 2 was the best. we all knew what is the end game . but in season 3 i cant seem to find who is the big bad ?and the end game.. slade/ malcolm/LOA?
Actually I am a huge fan of Roy as a character. I love him, his relationship with Oliver and before joining Team Arrow his determination to do good like Arrow for the Glades. What I am sad about is usually I am not able to connect with Roy because of CH's acting especially in emotional scenes and broodiness. Now his dry wit and determined strong crime fighter persona I like it very much.
Anyone else think maybe it's not Felicity that is stupid but Malcom that is just that brilliant. God, Felicity's a genius, we know that! The show is not stripping her of IQ points that they have already established she has. They are only emphasizing how big a threat Merlyn is by showing him beating Felicity at her own game without her even realizing. I am kinda disappointed in the fandom right now!
Well, she had quit the team for a while. And grief makes you not think right sometimes. Maybe that's the explanation? A better question for the writers is why haven't they found a new secret layer now that so many enemies know where this one is and apparently security is terrible!?
Really!! That is just treating audience like dumb people. So why not put the bastard in a jail? I like JB but if his presence is going to damage the writing this much I wouldn't mind him going from the show. I would rather like Merlyn getting away with his own cunning and wit. Not because Oliver has some misguided daddy issues.
Last episode Diggle sat back and sent Roy and Laurel into field and this episode they are hacked. It's like Oliver was doing all the jobs when he was there and suddenly they all forgot how to work except Roy.
and i hate being annoyed at Arrow, but in this instance i couldn't keep it inside, My God even the creators have to know how idiotic it is not to move the Lair
Well. I will take that over this. Say something like Felicity noticed the intrusions to firewall coming, traced back knew it was Merlyn, gave him access to bait him. I know it wont happen. Still
I think Felicity already knew of this snoop and they are doing this to force Malcolm into fighting Brick. Otherwise I cannot stomach it. You are telling me not only Malcolm can just walk into the lair he installed secret cameras. Dumb everyone down so that we can have Merlyn fight with the good guys. PShhhh
Again a big plot hole in Arrow. We're just supposed to believe Malcolm installed hidden cameras (that are so not hidden) and nobody seems to have noticed?! At least we saw Slade installing them, but this happened off-screen and we're just supposed to buy it. A very cheap trick and one that again damages the credibility of this show.
I actually didn't pay much attention to the episode description because I didn't want to speculate and ruin it. I already read every spoiler there is. AGHHH the cameras. I'm so angry!
I am frustrated. First Oliver protecting Malcolm without even putting him in ARGUS jail. Then Malcolm sauntering into the lair and now spying. It's like in their eagerness to give larger than life persona to Malcolm they have lost all logic.
I foresaw Brick killing Rebecca Merlyn when they announced Malcolm flashbacks this episode and synopsis said Malcolm wants to fight against Brick for personal reasons. We even discussed it here. The cameras ugh.. I hope Team Arrow is being clever and using Malcolm.
Agreed, I would rather watch either season 1 or 2 instead of season 3. Probably Ra's/LoA is the endgame of the season but there is not much build-up to it.
I'm annoyed at being annoyed at Arrow which makes me annoyed at myself which makes me annoyed at the writers for making me annoyed at myself. It's a vicious cycle lol
I kept staring at the screen for a while refusing to believe that I just read that. And worse they will team up together! HE KILLED SARA! HE MADE THEA KILL SARA!! HE SENT OLIVER TO HIS DEATH!!! HE KILLED TOMMY!!!! HE KILLED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE!!!!! HE WAS THE REASON ROBERT DIED!!!!!
I don't know about "big". Plot hole? Yeah, sure, but I don't know is we should make that much of a fuzz about it, I mean we've seen way worse of these on TV
Last episode I washed my hands off Thea. She calmly sat with her murderous father and discussed an event which caused the death of her half brother, incarcerated her mother and indirectly killed her father. If she was not a part of Oliver's happiness I would have petitioned for killing her off.
But I have a feeling there is a twist coming where we will come to know Thea was playing Malcolm to be better and then kill him.
Orphan is the term used when both parents are dead. In this case Oliver is an orphan and if Malcolm was not there Thea would have been one too. Thea is Oliver's last living family member.
I know I am. I expected Team Arrow to reveal the fact that Malcolm made Oliver die to Thea during his absence and to try and take her away from him. Nothing like that happened. Anyway none of my predictions ever work on this show.
I don't mind a team up against Ra's when Oliver is back. Because let's face it Oliver no way can beat Ra's on his own even with ATOM and ARGUS. He needs someone with inside knowledge. But now when just last week he orchestrated this situation that lead to Oliver's death they even consider him an option annoys the heck out of me.
Almost everything bad that has happened to Oliver, Thea, Laurel and other character's on the show can be linked back to Merlyn. Even Slade coming to Starling City can be linked back to Merlyn.
She doesn't have to join the fight. I am actually starting to loathe Thea and I don't care what happens to her; I just don't want that to happen to Oliver.
Merlyn could simply be hacking to a camera Felicity already has installed.. We don't know from this sneak peak if he installed any secret cameras on his own.
I really don't want her to be a killer. One of the reasons I was refusing to believe that she was the killer at the beginning of the season was because I didn't want her to be a killer. It might be the anger talking. I just hate the two of them with the burning passion of a thousand suns right now. Their talk at the end of last episode made me livid. Are we supposed to say "Awww what a beautiful father/daughter moment. Look at her proud of what daddy dearest taught her"?????
That scene just made me so mad. Ugh!!! But I am excited for ep 14 when Thea and Oliver are stuck in Lian Yu with Slade because of Malcolm. She will know Oliver's secret then. That episode will decide if I will hate Thea forever or not.
I was wondering last day how come the show is getting steady 1+ ratings this season? Not that I am not happy. Last season was so much better but we had such fluctuating ratings.
As much as I like Felcity's dresses I would love to see her in jeans. I actually like some of her office clothes this season with the jackets.
Now someone's wardrobe that I want to change immediately is Thea 's. All the crop tops has to go. She is already small. Those dresses make her look more fragile. Give her a wardrobe like Sara's. Some jeans, long t shirts and leather jackets. It will make her look like a warrior.
Agreed and the who's dunnit with Sara's murder was done very poorly. Undertaking was such an interesting mystery. We already knew only a handful of people can kill Sara. It was annoying.
They most probably would have forgotten all about that by now. Like Laurel's photo on the island, Laurel's basic but above average fighting skills etc etc.
I was over all happy with Laurel in last two episodes so I didn't comment on how bad they made her look in the first fight scene. I had more issues with other parts of the episode LOL.
My prediction is by the end of hallucination in the canaries Laurel understands she is not yet vigilante material and current training is not enough (especially since wild cat is not returning after next episode). Also in Canaries she will learn Thea was the killer and forgive her. So she will decide to put a pause on her vigilante business until she is ready. Then in next episode she will reach out to Nyssa for help in training. That might be when the new female league member will be introduced. Laurel will start training with her and at the season's end she will help team Arrow as more competent BC in fighting LoA
I have no idea. The writing this season is so damn convoluted.
"My job is to get close to a girl, so I'll audition for a job for her. Except I'll not actually audition and I'll demand a ridiculous fee and obviously get turned down. Then my entire mission will hinge on whoever she does hire actually sucking, and her being willing to fire the guy that night and hire me as a replacement. This is so solid of a plan, I see absolutely no holes where this thing could fall apart!"
I read that somewhere else but for me it perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with this season.
The season isn't convoluted, it's just ridiculously nonsensical with giant plot holes that the writers expect us to go along with. Last episode was terrible as it dumbed down almost every character and wrote some of them to be extremely OOC to make other characters happen. It's becoming increasingly frustrating
I would like to believe that there's something else going on that will be explained in the episode, but after last week when we had combat veteran Diggle stay in the lair so that Laurel could go out in the field and deal with a hostage situation, I'm afraid they really are going to make Felicity that stupid.
He doesen't need a reason to keep him alive, Barrowman is a fantastic entertainer I can't see the writers get rid off. No in-show reason is needed except "I can't kill the guy because he's stronger than me"
And her computer doesn't have to be hacked to get access to the camera. The servers of said camera's company can be hacked as well to get remote access to her camera. Seriously, a company like Sony with all its security measures got easily hacked and so did many others. Felicity is just one person and anyone can be hacked.
I don't think they're ever going to get a new lair - if they were going to they would've done it this season considering Oliver's running his base of operations out of a building he doesn't even own. IIRC, the EPs addressed that it was kind of a running joke with the writers how accessible the lair is to criminals, so I don't think that's something that's going to change anytime soon.
Roy's dream where he had perfect recall of Sara's death, despite not being there, made me throw my hands in the air. And, like you said, the writers expect us to ignore that and move on.
The worst part is it was done to manufacture weak drama within the team. Diggle acted completely out of character that episode and it was forgotten in the next one.
Lol. That is just. I don't even bother with DJ Douchebag and his methods because he is nothing. But when they write stupid things like Oliver letting Malcolm go and protect him, Diggle staying back and letting Laurel fight with Roy and now Felicity being so dumb the lair computers are hacked.
I wish they had shown Malcolm get himself off from Oliver's clutches because of some nefarious scheme like bombs in the city or something like that instead of Oliver letting him go just because Malcolm said no prison can hold me. Also Oliver's protection instead of Oliver offering it if Malcolm had made Oliver do it for him that would have been brilliant. I don't want them to kill Malcolm. I want them to treat Malcolm like the terrorist that he is.
This whole thing of Malcolm story line, Sara's death, this elaborate scheme that lead to Oliver's death nothing makes sense.
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Assumed this was the case from the press release, but this definitely makes things more interesting.
ReplyDeleteOhhhhh!!! This just made things soooo much interesting!!!
ReplyDeleteBrick killed Tommy's mom? I didn't see that one coming. And seriously they don't see the cameras Malcolm planted??????? And when did he even plant them? Seriously an amusement park is more secure and secret then the foundry!!!!!!!! This is ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteAnyway.. Am I the only one who felt sad to see the Arrow suit hanging in the background?
Side Note: Felicity's skirt print is horrible!
It's the thing with "wireless mini-cams with unlimited battery" i guess... Malcolm might purchase them from the same provider than Slade.
ReplyDeleteso did i, i mean why put it in the press release if this isnt exactly the plot twist that it was going to be about.
ReplyDeleteSo that's why Malcolm suits up and helps Team Arrow take down Brick. That's a plot twist I didn't see coming. This just made me even more hyped for Wednesday!
ReplyDeleteSo yeah dumping down people for plot reasons continues.
ReplyDeleteThey seriously don't realize the hidden cameras that are in the arrow-cave?
ReplyDeleteThis will be huge! Really interested in Malcolm's reaction and will if he will kill Brick or if Oliver will stop him.
ReplyDeleteit's not even a mini mini camera even a blind man could see that camera geez
ReplyDeleteThere might as well be a store called "Spying on Team Arrow R US"!
ReplyDeletesmh
ReplyDeletehow?
ReplyDeleteWorse, she was too stupid to notice.
ReplyDeleteAGAIN! GET A NEW LAIR FOR GOODNESS SAKES!!! it's getting very annoying and i don't get annoyed with Arrow but what the hell are they waiting for to make them move the Lair to a more secure place, an earthquake? psychopaths? the League of Assassins? oops that all happened. Got all ranty there but damn it it's really getting on my nerves, and honestly are they all so blind that they don't see that huge camera on top of the monitor?! AAARGGHHH!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWorse-it's a camera on Felicity's monitor, which I guess we're to believe she was too stupid to disable.
ReplyDeleteI knew it.
ReplyDeleteI share your frustration. I'm really annoyed!
ReplyDeleteBut hey they are the best episodes we ever made!
ReplyDeleteRight. I keep forgetting that!
ReplyDeletethey'd definitely make a profit LOL
ReplyDeleteHe hacked a genius! Look its Slade 2.0 when he hacked Felicitys phone.
ReplyDeleteSo he hacked her system and turned on the camera and she didn't know!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt looked like it was part of the monitor, as in always there. I don't think Malcolm planted anything.
ReplyDeleteI was hoping Oliver's death would get Felicity to ditch her hideous dresses.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, the show is making Felicity as well as the rest of the team look incompetent for the sake of plot. SMH
ReplyDeleteThis is a writing issue, it's got nothing to do with Felicity's character. From what they've sold us over the past few years, she's a genius who went to MIT-no way would she be stupid enough to ever have a camera in the place where they conduct illegal vigilante activities.
ReplyDeleteI'm not hating on Felicity, I'm angry at the writers for what they are doing with her!
ReplyDeleteWe should cut her some slack though. She has a lot on her mind. She just lost the love of her life a couple of weeks ago and is busy making googly eyes at her stalkery boss plus she is busy deceiving Lance, all that in a matter of weeks. Who has the time to notice these things?!
ReplyDeleteI have to admit I hate her dresses, most of them at least. I pray that I see her at least once in tight jeans and a blouse or something. What woman always wears dresses and high heels these days?
ReplyDeleteI actually predicted this when it was said we will get Malcolm flashbacks this episode. Didn't predict the spying on the lair. I thought he already knew.
ReplyDeleteIt's doubtfull that Felicity wouldn't know that someone hacked into their system - so it's a big writers mistake, making it like that.
ReplyDeleteNot sure why people are complaining about the camera. Pretty sure those monitors have a camera built in and all he did was put his camera over the one already on there which if Felicity isn't looking for it wouldnt notice it.
ReplyDeleteSo we are repeating story plots now?
ReplyDeleteHe didn't hack into their system. He put a camera over the camera built into the monitor.
ReplyDeleteLMAO but yeah and i have never ever said that and hope to never say it again
ReplyDeleteBecause Malcolm doesn't know....
ReplyDeletegotta say season 1b and season 2 was the best. we all knew what is the end game . but in season 3 i cant seem to find who is the big bad ?and the end game..
ReplyDeleteslade/ malcolm/LOA?
hahahahaha
ReplyDeletehey you complimented Roy cool
ReplyDeleteIt's like he took their brains and their common sense with him in his bag.
ReplyDeleteYeah but not that dysfunctional.
ReplyDeleteThat I know now. I didn't before this sneak Peek.
ReplyDeletei get the not putting Merlyn in Lian Yu, it's for Thea but still
ReplyDeleteActually I am a huge fan of Roy as a character. I love him, his relationship with Oliver and before joining Team Arrow his determination to do good like Arrow for the Glades. What I am sad about is usually I am not able to connect with Roy because of CH's acting especially in emotional scenes and broodiness. Now his dry wit and determined strong crime fighter persona I like it very much.
ReplyDeleteif LOA is the endgame they r making a shitty job of it.and that woud make killing sarah was a dumb move.
ReplyDeleteIf Oliver loved Thea he would have kept Thea far far away from a terrorist.
ReplyDeletehow?
ReplyDeleteyeah the second i typed that i immediately regretted it LOL
ReplyDeleteWould you care to elaborate a bit more on why I am wrong?
ReplyDeletelol that's so dumb. The writers just love Malcolm/John Barrowman so much that they come up with illogical solutions to have him around all the time
ReplyDeleteNetflix got on the Friends train LOL
ReplyDeleteprobably
ReplyDeleteoliver thought putting him aside slade
will be the worst thing u could do to the world.
you don't mean EVER? right? RIGHT?!
ReplyDeleteIt's my all time favourite sitcom. Actually I was marathoning it and just finished it yesterday.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else think maybe it's not Felicity that is stupid but Malcom that is just that brilliant. God, Felicity's a genius, we know that! The show is not stripping her of IQ points that they have already established she has. They are only emphasizing how big a threat Merlyn is by showing him beating Felicity at her own game without her even realizing. I am kinda disappointed in the fandom right now!
ReplyDeleteIt's a coping mechanism I get it lol
ReplyDeleteWell, she had quit the team for a while. And grief makes you not think right sometimes. Maybe that's the explanation? A better question for the writers is why haven't they found a new secret layer now that so many enemies know where this one is and apparently security is terrible!?
ReplyDeleteGod no, hell no
ReplyDeleteReally!! That is just treating audience like dumb people. So why not put the bastard in a jail? I like JB but if his presence is going to damage the writing this much I wouldn't mind him going from the show. I would rather like Merlyn getting away with his own cunning and wit. Not because Oliver has some misguided daddy issues.
ReplyDeleteif the endgame is LOA vs TEAM ARROW .
ReplyDeletei may get why they want malcolm on the storyline.
i really hope that's what it is
ReplyDeleteI hate this! I don't like being angry with Arrow.
ReplyDeletehttp://insatiablebooksluts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/joey-gasp.gif
ReplyDeleteIts just too much with constant dumbing down for plot.
ReplyDeleteLast episode Diggle sat back and sent Roy and Laurel into field and this episode they are hacked. It's like Oliver was doing all the jobs when he was there and suddenly they all forgot how to work except Roy.
ReplyDeleteLast episode was Diggle's stupidity time. Now its Felicity's time
ReplyDeletebecause he can't die LOL
ReplyDeletei think the general idea of writers is to make believe that without arrow they r dysfunctional.
ReplyDeletei agree .
ReplyDeletethis and big bang
ohh so you're not an actual fan of Roy's, you're a sometimes fan now i'm a little sad LOL
ReplyDeleteif u look closely u can see some kinda bug in.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe she'd actually have a camera down there anyway. This is stupid.
ReplyDeleteand i hate being annoyed at Arrow, but in this instance i couldn't keep it inside, My God even the creators have to know how idiotic it is not to move the Lair
ReplyDeleteWell. I will take that over this. Say something like Felicity noticed the intrusions to firewall coming, traced back knew it was Merlyn, gave him access to bait him. I know it wont happen. Still
ReplyDeleteSigh
ReplyDeleteI think Felicity already knew of this snoop and they are doing this to force Malcolm into fighting Brick. Otherwise I cannot stomach it. You are telling me not only Malcolm can just walk into the lair he installed secret cameras. Dumb everyone down so that we can have Merlyn fight with the good guys. PShhhh
ReplyDeleteyet it seems like she doesn't
ReplyDeletenow that'd be epic
ReplyDeleteUsually I'm a fan of her wardrobe and I love bright colours but that was awful. It hurt my eyes.
ReplyDeletei think u r right.
ReplyDeletethey gotta move from there.
too many people knows.
Queen not Merlyn but yeah
ReplyDeleteEverybody can come into the lair except Thea Dearden Queen/Merlyn
ReplyDeleteAnger is not a good colour on us lol
ReplyDeleteof course he did, how about Kreisberg or Berlanti?
ReplyDeleteyeah at least someone has to come up with a theory that makes the show make sense right?
ReplyDeleteAgain a big plot hole in Arrow. We're just supposed to believe Malcolm installed hidden cameras (that are so not hidden) and nobody seems to have noticed?! At least we saw Slade installing them, but this happened off-screen and we're just supposed to buy it. A very cheap trick and one that again damages the credibility of this show.
ReplyDeleteI actually didn't pay much attention to the episode description because I didn't want to speculate and ruin it. I already read every spoiler there is. AGHHH the cameras. I'm so angry!
ReplyDeleteThat's true she did quit the team in a while and it could have happened recently
ReplyDeleteThat was my main confusion. How the hell is this dude alive?
ReplyDeletesame here, it makes me physically ill being this angry with Arrow
ReplyDeleteWrong.
ReplyDeleteI am frustrated. First Oliver protecting Malcolm without even putting him in ARGUS jail. Then Malcolm sauntering into the lair and now spying. It's like in their eagerness to give larger than life persona to Malcolm they have lost all logic.
ReplyDeletei somehow feel that within this season .
ReplyDeletethea will be dead
and oli will become an orphan :-(
That cannot be ARGUS's only jail. It was a plot contrivance to keep Merlyn in the picture. Bad writing all around.
ReplyDeletedefinitely not LOL
ReplyDeleteyep, and if they do the same with Oliver they'd lose a little respect from me, i can't believe i just said that
ReplyDeleteIt makes more sense that Malcolm doesn't know Or else Brick would have been dead like 20 years ago lol
ReplyDeleteI foresaw Brick killing Rebecca Merlyn when they announced Malcolm flashbacks this episode and synopsis said Malcolm wants to fight against Brick for personal reasons. We even discussed it here. The cameras ugh.. I hope Team Arrow is being clever and using Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteI asked the question to MG on tumblr few days before. As usual he remained silent on serious criticisms.
ReplyDeleteHe was really good in last two episodes. CH did his best acting last episode against Malcolm. Praise where praise is due :)
ReplyDeleteit's the most secure though
ReplyDeleteOllie is already an orphan
ReplyDeleteAgreed, I would rather watch either season 1 or 2 instead of season 3. Probably Ra's/LoA is the endgame of the season but there is not much build-up to it.
ReplyDeleteI'm annoyed at being annoyed at Arrow which makes me annoyed at myself which makes me annoyed at the writers for making me annoyed at myself. It's a vicious cycle lol
ReplyDeletenow u got me thinking abt friends show ;-)
ReplyDeletebeen a long time
i really hope so, don't worry i'm dissappointed in myself, i have never, EVER talked like this about one of my absolute favorite shows
ReplyDeleteAt that time I understand having Malcolm on their side. But now for someone like Brick. Meh!!
ReplyDeleteoh ok
ReplyDeleteand it would be if malcolm and thea died in season finale.
ReplyDeletecuz u cannot beat LOA .
this might be the best outcome of that war.
no Thea's not dying, EVER!
ReplyDeleteI kept staring at the screen for a while refusing to believe that I just read that. And worse they will team up together! HE KILLED SARA! HE MADE THEA KILL SARA!! HE SENT OLIVER TO HIS DEATH!!! HE KILLED TOMMY!!!! HE KILLED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE!!!!! HE WAS THE REASON ROBERT DIED!!!!!
ReplyDeleteme too LOL
ReplyDeleteLOL that's petty much how she is being written this season.
ReplyDeleteBecause she is dumb as a post.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about "big". Plot hole? Yeah, sure, but I don't know is we should make that much of a fuzz about it, I mean we've seen way worse of these on TV
ReplyDeletewhy do u say that?
ReplyDelete+the reason Oliver went though hell for 5 years and the reason for all his emotional issues
ReplyDeleteLast episode I washed my hands off Thea. She calmly sat with her murderous father and discussed an event which caused the death of her half brother, incarcerated her mother and indirectly killed her father. If she was not a part of Oliver's happiness I would have petitioned for killing her off.
ReplyDeleteBut I have a feeling there is a twist coming where we will come to know Thea was playing Malcolm to be better and then kill him.
thea is still related
ReplyDeletebecause you want her dead and that's horrible
ReplyDeleteAnd Sara's. This is a fun game, list all the awful things Malcolm did.
ReplyDeletethea fan?
ReplyDeleteOrphan is the term used when both parents are dead. In this case Oliver is an orphan and if Malcolm was not there Thea would have been one too. Thea is Oliver's last living family member.
ReplyDeleteNot much of a Thea fan now. But still it will devastate Oliver. So no. Never kill Thea.
ReplyDeleteRIGHT?! enough's enough
ReplyDeleteoh i get it.
ReplyDeleteNOOOOO she can't die! I love them so much plus can't poor Oliver have one alive family member?
ReplyDeleteobviously LOL
ReplyDeleteIf "there's plenty plenty of evidence but none that the police can make stick", maybe they need a good ADA rather than a marginal vigilante.
ReplyDeleteHow is Malcolm able to hide a camera in her computer from tech genius Felicity?
As soon as the info came out that Malcolm has a past with Brick, it was obvious Brick killed his wife.
When did this show get so stupid? When did they assume that the audience was?
lol yeah I can't even deal with Thea this season.
ReplyDeleteGod I hope your theory is right but I really doubt it. I think you're giving the writers too much credit.
I have to feel good by some way
ReplyDeleteyeah but with Daddy dearest she might also accept the Merlyn part.
ReplyDeleteso u think oli will defeat LOA
ReplyDeleteand they will pack up their things and forget their code?
My second favourite.
ReplyDeleteI know I am. I expected Team Arrow to reveal the fact that Malcolm made Oliver die to Thea during his absence and to try and take her away from him. Nothing like that happened. Anyway none of my predictions ever work on this show.
ReplyDeletewhen she finds out i just hope she has Nyssa kill him
ReplyDeleteHonestly I am just getting so fed up with this nonsense. The writers don't even have to try and fans will just eat it up.
ReplyDeleteBetter kill him herself.
ReplyDeleteits just if u r going to go to war with LOA
ReplyDeleteu cant possibly think they will all come out victorious
k.
ReplyDeletethey need everyone and by everyone i mean everyone, Barry need to help them STAT!
ReplyDeleteI don't mind a team up against Ra's when Oliver is back. Because let's face it Oliver no way can beat Ra's on his own even with ATOM and ARGUS. He needs someone with inside knowledge. But now when just last week he orchestrated this situation that lead to Oliver's death they even consider him an option annoys the heck out of me.
ReplyDeleteAlmost everything bad that has happened to Oliver, Thea, Laurel and other character's on the show can be linked back to Merlyn. Even Slade coming to Starling City can be linked back to Merlyn.
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't have to join the fight. I am actually starting to loathe Thea and I don't care what happens to her; I just don't want that to happen to Oliver.
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell? Why doesn't Felicity dedect that Merlyn is spying on them? Always shown as genius hacker and then that...
ReplyDeleteno she doesnt but she also had a hand in killing sarah in LOA pov.
ReplyDeleteso LOA might go for thea and malcolm.
Oliver would be devastated. Otherwise I would have got into the screen and killed Thea. I feel sorry for Willa. I love her.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious to see them solving that issue.
ReplyDeleteMerlyn could simply be hacking to a camera Felicity already has installed.. We don't know from this sneak peak if he installed any secret cameras on his own.
ReplyDeleteI think they will all come up with some kind of compromise to it at the end. Or Thea would betray Malcolm in the end and hand him over to LoA.
ReplyDeleteNeither do I but let's face she already is technically.
ReplyDeleteshe's like Roy she wasn't in control
ReplyDeletewell ,now that i can agree with you.
ReplyDeleteand he said that they're way off right about becoming a villain?
ReplyDeleteI really don't want her to be a killer. One of the reasons I was refusing to believe that she was the killer at the beginning of the season was because I didn't want her to be a killer. It might be the anger talking. I just hate the two of them with the burning passion of a thousand suns right now. Their talk at the end of last episode made me livid. Are we supposed to say "Awww what a beautiful father/daughter moment. Look at her proud of what daddy dearest taught her"?????
ReplyDeleteshe's the purest of them all and i don't want her to lose that
ReplyDeleteYES PLZZZ!
ReplyDeletei really really hope so
ReplyDeleteThat scene just made me so mad. Ugh!!! But I am excited for ep 14 when Thea and Oliver are stuck in Lian Yu with Slade because of Malcolm. She will know Oliver's secret then. That episode will decide if I will hate Thea forever or not.
ReplyDeleteWell it's not GUARANTEED that she will know Oliver's secret, just saying lol
ReplyDeleteI was wondering last day how come the show is getting steady 1+ ratings this season? Not that I am not happy. Last season was so much better but we had such fluctuating ratings.
ReplyDeleteIf she doesn't figure it out I will climb into the screen and beat her head with a rock!!!!
ReplyDeleteAs much as I like Felcity's dresses I would love to see her in jeans. I actually like some of her office clothes this season with the jackets.
ReplyDeleteNow someone's wardrobe that I want to change immediately is Thea 's. All the crop tops has to go. She is already small. Those dresses make her look more fragile. Give her a wardrobe like Sara's. Some jeans, long t shirts and leather jackets. It will make her look like a warrior.
Agreed and the who's dunnit with Sara's murder was done very poorly. Undertaking was such an interesting mystery. We already knew only a handful of people can kill Sara. It was annoying.
ReplyDeleteHey, it's a respectable business I'm running Koky. You don't know how many pre-orders I have coming in for the upcoming "Felicity-under-skirt-cam"
ReplyDeletebetter than the season premiere and episode 5, don't chew down on that lemon, you sound a tad bitter
ReplyDeleteNo. No landmines (you know for reasons lol); the rocks will suffice.
ReplyDeleteYou just love starting wars.
ReplyDeleteStop living in the gutter mac lol. Normal Jeans.
ReplyDeletePsssshhh, don't spill my secret
ReplyDeleteand landmines. Just strategically place her over one.
ReplyDeleteBetter? Nah. Equal on lack of quality? Yes.
ReplyDelete*tight leather pants
ReplyDeleteHey but at least no one's complaining about Laurels skills being forgotten
ReplyDeletePlenty of rocks on the island. Just saying!
ReplyDeleteThey most probably would have forgotten all about that by now. Like Laurel's photo on the island, Laurel's basic but above average fighting skills etc etc.
ReplyDeleteI was over all happy with Laurel in last two episodes so I didn't comment on how bad they made her look in the first fight scene. I had more issues with other parts of the episode LOL.
ReplyDeleteMy prediction is by the end of hallucination in the canaries Laurel understands she is not yet vigilante material and current training is not enough (especially since wild cat is not returning after next episode). Also in Canaries she will learn Thea was the killer and forgive her. So she will decide to put a pause on her vigilante business until she is ready. Then in next episode she will reach out to Nyssa for help in training. That might be when the new female league member will be introduced. Laurel will start training with her and at the season's end she will help team Arrow as more competent BC in fighting LoA
I have no idea. The writing this season is so damn convoluted.
ReplyDelete"My job is to get close to a girl, so I'll audition for a job for her. Except I'll not actually audition and I'll demand a ridiculous fee and obviously get turned down. Then my entire mission will hinge on whoever she does hire actually sucking, and her being willing to fire the guy that night and hire me as a replacement. This is so solid of a plan, I see absolutely no holes where this thing could fall apart!"
I read that somewhere else but for me it perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with this season.
A shorter skirt maybe?
ReplyDeleteAye, you gals get Oliver shirtless all the time, we guys have a dead girls cleavage, a covered up butt and Laurels BDSM suit.
actually they did call her "Thea Merlyn" in the bts clip about a fight scene she was involved in
ReplyDeleteAnd it wasn't even as if the resolution to Sara's death was good. Thea on a mind-control drug? Really?
ReplyDeleteI mean seriously, you expect me not to chime in while you guys bash episodes I enjoyed? You'd do the same
ReplyDeleteThe season isn't convoluted, it's just ridiculously nonsensical with giant plot holes that the writers expect us to go along with. Last episode was terrible as it dumbed down almost every character and wrote some of them to be extremely OOC to make other characters happen. It's becoming increasingly frustrating
ReplyDeleteFelicity is being damned with every plot to make the new superheroes Laurel and Ray shine.
ReplyDeleteInstead of liking Ray and Laurel more, I'm liking Felicity and Diggle less for being stupid.
Seriously? That's so stupid. That makes all 3, Oliver, Diggle and Felicity getting stupid for plot purposes.
ReplyDeleteHow is Thea going to feel when she finds out Malcolm brainwashed into killing Sara?
I guess that explains why he made all those trips to the cave to express "concern" over Oliver.
ReplyDeleteI would like to believe that there's something else going on that will be explained in the episode, but after last week when we had combat veteran Diggle stay in the lair so that Laurel could go out in the field and deal with a hostage situation, I'm afraid they really are going to make Felicity that stupid.
ReplyDeleteHe doesen't need a reason to keep him alive, Barrowman is a fantastic entertainer I can't see the writers get rid off. No in-show reason is needed except "I can't kill the guy because he's stronger than me"
ReplyDeleteI don't follow MG anymore, I really dislike his way of baiting fans with half-true promises.
ReplyDeleteI feel bad for every fan/shipper base that follows a writer like him, because he loves playing the fandom (wich my diabolical side has to admire)
And her computer doesn't have to be hacked to get access to the camera. The servers of said camera's company can be hacked as well to get remote access to her camera.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, a company like Sony with all its security measures got easily hacked and so did many others. Felicity is just one person and anyone can be hacked.
I don't think they're ever going to get a new lair - if they were going to they would've done it this season considering Oliver's running his base of operations out of a building he doesn't even own. IIRC, the EPs addressed that it was kind of a running joke with the writers how accessible the lair is to criminals, so I don't think that's something that's going to change anytime soon.
ReplyDeleteRoy's dream where he had perfect recall of Sara's death, despite not being there, made me throw my hands in the air. And, like you said, the writers expect us to ignore that and move on.
ReplyDeleteThe worst part is it was done to manufacture weak drama within the team. Diggle acted completely out of character that episode and it was forgotten in the next one.
What I don't understand is how Thea has never noticed it!
ReplyDeleteIt was an interview and the word epic was thrown all over.
ReplyDeleteWell MG didnt go out saying they were the best episodes ever made.
ReplyDeleteThe plot contrivances get worse and worse.
ReplyDeleteLol. That is just. I don't even bother with DJ Douchebag and his methods because he is nothing. But when they write stupid things like Oliver letting Malcolm go and protect him, Diggle staying back and letting Laurel fight with Roy and now Felicity being so dumb the lair computers are hacked.
ReplyDeleteI wish they had shown Malcolm get himself off from Oliver's clutches because of some nefarious scheme like bombs in the city or something like that instead of Oliver letting him go just because Malcolm said no prison can hold me. Also Oliver's protection instead of Oliver offering it if Malcolm had made Oliver do it for him that would have been brilliant. I don't want them to kill Malcolm. I want them to treat Malcolm like the terrorist that he is.
ReplyDeleteThis whole thing of Malcolm story line, Sara's death, this elaborate scheme that lead to Oliver's death nothing makes sense.
While Malcolm is my favourite I have to agree, he's a magnficent bastard but still has quite the confusing track record with planning sh*t :P
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