I don´t like Finn, but the things that they want to do to him are really harsh. Grounders take things seriously. Well, I´m curious what´s gonna happen, still think it´s too obvious and Finn won´t die, it will be someone we don´t expect.
Um ... yeah. Basically. I mean, I don't love the idea of him getting tortured, but Lincoln's right. Finn is responsible for what he did and it was wrong. And he's my least favorite character. If anyone else dies for him, I won't be okay with that. So yes.
Well. This is going to be harsh. They're not going to hand Finn over. I'm still not sure he is dying. Someone is dying, I'm not convinced it's Finn. If it is him, I imagine they'll try to protect him and he will sacrifice himself, at the last minute. When there is nothing they can do to save him. UNLESS, someone else sacrifice's themselves instead, without the camp knowing. I just can't get inside these writers minds. Normally you can see it or come to a conclusion or theory. With these writers, you don't know a jack until it happens.
There will be a riot if she dies, but she is a favorite of this script's writer and a huge fan/critic favorite. She is "My Goddess Raven" to some. I just don't know about this one.
But then it would only be fair for any grounder who sent the virus that killed 14 to die, after all that's what they wanted and so goes for anyone that survived the attack. How come it's fair for Finn to get held accountable for what he did but not the grounders? Why are we forgetting that they had every intention to kill each and every one of the 100 and would've had they not found a way to deffend themselves? I get not liking the character, but why is it alright for him to pay for things the grounders also did, but never payed for? I mean I've done the whole "if someone has to die it may as well be..." in other shows, but haters seem to feel justifyed by this whole situation, and that I don't get. An since when does Lincoln get the right to judge anyone? he practically killed Finn, so if we're seeing things that way, the 100 should've killed him and he's still alive. I don't know I just don't get it. I'm ok with people saying they don't like him and that he should go, but anything else feels so onesided...
I wonder how would they feel if they were held to the standards? I mean, most of them should die a horrible death since apart from a few they all have killed at one point or another, at least most of those we've been introduced to...
Because the grounders committed an act of war against what they perceived as warriors. Finn attacked innocent people - old people and children - in a village which wasn't in a conflict with him at the time. Not war, not warriors, therefore wrong. There's a reason they don't want Clarke or Raven for incinerating all of their fighters during the battle. Because it was a battle. Because they were fighters. Just like any civilization, there's a difference between peace and war, and soldiers and civilians. You don't have to agree with where the grounders draw their lines - although I'm pretty happy with "don't attack old people and children" as a line, myself - but that's why.
And Lincoln was a reaper at the time. He was chemically altered. It's like being mad at someone for going on rampage because some force injected meth into their system. He wasn't in control of himself and he hardly asked to get turned; when he was in his right mind, he saved Finn's life, if you remember. Finn doesn't have that excuse. Nobody and nothing was making decisions for Finn but Finn.
Basically, you're comparing these things as if they're all the same, and they aren't. Lots of characters on this show have done very bad things, no one is disputing that. The grounders are hardly innocent, and I'm not going to argue that they are justified for their actions, just that I can somewhat understand their logic in this case. But what Finn did - shooting at scared, unarmed people, most of whom were innocent civilians, with no excuse such as encroaching on territory or being at war or even thinking they had his friends, since he already knew they didn't by the time he started shooting - was wrong, plain and simple, and while I don't necessarily want him to die for it, if it's a choice between that or other people dying for his mistakes, then sorry. Down with Finn.
I hope not I really like her character but since this is both Ravens and Finns backstory it leads me to believe this. I hope it's some else I really don't care if its Finn
In his defense he did perceive as a threat, he was sure they were lying and had Clarke, and he had no reason to think different since the grounder that had her watch had told them so and in his experience they haven't been the most truthful. Last season when Clarke killed that grounder to escape she didn't get this heat. He didn't have to die, he didn't really pose a threat, she knew he was taking her as a healer to their village, her life wasn't in danger yet she did it and she showed no remorse because she believed she was justified in her actions. What he did was SO wrong, but he had no reason to believe them, as far as he knew a horde of them was coming armed to the teeth. I guess in his fb we'll see him as an idealistic boy only for them to show as how far he's fallen. Regarding Lincoln, I do not hold him responsible for what he did when he was a reaper, that wasn't him as far as I'm concerned. I was talking about last season when they went to rescue Octavia when he stabbed with poisoned thing and he was going to let him die until Octavia cut herself to find out the which was the antidote. So he was going to let him die, yet he wasn't stabbed with a poisoned something just to get even, as a matter of fact Finn saw him escape and didn't say anything, so you could say he "let" him go in a way. Now regarding Finn making his own decissions I'm not so sure hi was in his right mind. To me he looked too manic, there's was something definitely not right with him, but then again that's my opinion.
I like her too and I don't want her to go, I don't want any of what I call the core five to die (Clarke, Raven, Octavia, Bellamy and Finn), but with all the rumors going around that Finn wasn't the one to take spacewalk but that he actually covered for her going around, it would make sense. I hope we're both wrong and no one diez, but the do like killing people so that highly unlikely. Anyway, I have the feeling that The 100 is going to go to my dl and watch later list after this episode, wethere Finn or Raven dies, and I believe one of them will.
That's what I think! She'll interrupt the ritual Lincoln's talking about. Mercy Kill like she did with Atom. How Anya did with the guy in the cart in Reapercussions. Nyko was going to with Lincoln... It makes sense. Lexa will respect Clarke just like she respected Kane's intentions when he was going to give his life. And talk about how the guilt will follow Clarke as she goes on. This is my theory and I'm sticking with it! May we meet again Finn!!!!
That would touching, but with the state of mind he's already in, if you add the guilt he feels for killing those grounders the guilt of Raven "returning the favor", I'm not sure he'll survive it anyway.
I'm sorry but you are really missing the point. The axe in the head of one of the 100 when he was walking through the woods, the virus, the hordes descending on the 100 -- so, what, NONE of the 100 are innocents? They were just a bunch of kids themselves and yet the grounders wanted to eliminate them. Murder every last one. They were going to kill Finn when he and Clarke were captured. They were going to kill them when the sent the virus. They were going to kill them when they ambushed them in the woods. They were going to kill them when they attacked the camp. They murdered the other unarmed innocent captive right in front of Finn, coating him with his friends blood, simply because he couldn't keep up...why the hell would Finn trust them or believe any of them to be innocent. He's just been through hell, literally. There is no such thing as an innocent grounder because in the grounder's eyes there were no such thing as innocent 100s. The Finn hate is ridiculous.
Well, I'm not sure IMDB is the most trustworthy site when it comes to this information, but he is listed up to episode 16 of this season, which I think is the entire season.
Yep, you got it coming Finn. Im sure something will happen the exact moment they are going to put him on fire and boom he is saved!... Tho take one of his hands!
Thank you, I totally agree with you. The hate is all about shippers and nothing to do with storyline or for that matter the art of acting. The character Finn and his actions are to make emotional points (his deep love for Clarke and finding her before he thought she would die) with the audience not to make you love him or hate him with Clarke. So what lengths would any of us go to find and help the one we love. Shippers are overheated drama freaks. The 100 is one of the best storylines on TV THATS what I'm enjoying.
That's bull sh**!!, and when they throwed the spear to Jasper to then hang him in a tree??, were they in war already??, what Finn did wasn't right, OK, but if you people justify ALL what the grounders have done because they are in war, then what Finn did is also TOTALLY justifiable, because of the grounders can kill kids that are just walking in the woods unarmed and without attacking anyone, then their adversaries can do the same attack and kill people unarmed that's doing nothing.
Maybe the twist isn't the character but the way he dies. Considering all the cruel things the Grounders have prepared for Finn maybe someone from The 100/Ark will kill him instead.
Lincoln is the biggest worry right now for me. The arkers are ready to sacrifice Finn for a crime he's supposed to be pardoned for and if they start feeling ashamed of that, they might lash out to the only enemy they can blame: The Grounders. Lincoln is tied up and vulnerable and I don't want them to kill him because they resent what his people are asking them to do. Lincoln and Octavia are like hope to me. If they can work out, maybe peace is possible too.
They want justice for their dead. That's why they want him tortured. if they just wanted him dead, they would have the sky people execute him. I don't think they would move on even if Clarke put a bullet in his head right in front of them.
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I don´t like Finn, but the things that they want to do to him are really harsh. Grounders take things seriously. Well, I´m curious what´s gonna happen, still think it´s too obvious and Finn won´t die, it will be someone we don´t expect.
ReplyDeleteIs that what you wanted, haters? Will that satisfy you?
ReplyDeleteI don't think Finn will die but if he does then that's gonna hurt.
ReplyDeletePretty much. What about you?
ReplyDeleteI think Raven will die sadly.
ReplyDeleteUm ... yeah. Basically. I mean, I don't love the idea of him getting tortured, but Lincoln's right. Finn is responsible for what he did and it was wrong. And he's my least favorite character. If anyone else dies for him, I won't be okay with that. So yes.
ReplyDeleteKill Finn and everyone can have peace. Except for Mt. Weather
ReplyDeleteBrutal but fair. It's a deal.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they will fake his death? If the Grounders think he's dead, maybe they will move on from it?
ReplyDeleteWell. This is going to be harsh. They're not going to hand Finn over. I'm still not sure he is dying. Someone is dying, I'm not convinced it's Finn. If it is him, I imagine they'll try to protect him and he will sacrifice himself, at the last minute. When there is nothing they can do to save him. UNLESS, someone else sacrifice's themselves instead, without the camp knowing. I just can't get inside these writers minds. Normally you can see it or come to a conclusion or theory. With these writers, you don't know a jack until it happens.
ReplyDeleteThere will be a riot if she dies, but she is a favorite of this script's writer and a huge fan/critic favorite. She is "My Goddess Raven" to some. I just don't know about this one.
ReplyDeleteBut then it would only be fair for any grounder who sent the virus that killed 14 to die, after all that's what they wanted and so goes for anyone that survived the attack. How come it's fair for Finn to get held accountable for what he did but not the grounders? Why are we forgetting that they had every intention to kill each and every one of the 100 and would've had they not found a way to deffend themselves?
ReplyDeleteI get not liking the character, but why is it alright for him to pay for things the grounders also did, but never payed for? I mean I've done the whole "if someone has to die it may as well be..." in other shows, but haters seem to feel justifyed by this whole situation, and that I don't get. An since when does Lincoln get the right to judge anyone? he practically killed Finn, so if we're seeing things that way, the 100 should've killed him and he's still alive.
I don't know I just don't get it. I'm ok with people saying they don't like him and that he should go, but anything else feels so onesided...
I wonder how would they feel if they were held to the standards? I mean, most of them should die a horrible death since apart from a few they all have killed at one point or another, at least most of those we've been introduced to...
ReplyDeleteWell that would get a strong fan reaction since she's so well liked, so if what they are going for is shock value, she's a strong candidate.
ReplyDeleteI'm in favor of everything and anything that keeps him alive, so I'm in for this.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think Clarke should kill Fin, or at least I hope she does. Killing him to spare him from the suffering would make it really interesting.
ReplyDeleteBecause the grounders committed an act of war against what they perceived as warriors. Finn attacked innocent people - old people and children - in a village which wasn't in a conflict with him at the time. Not war, not warriors, therefore wrong. There's a reason they don't want Clarke or Raven for incinerating all of their fighters during the battle. Because it was a battle. Because they were fighters. Just like any civilization, there's a difference between peace and war, and soldiers and civilians. You don't have to agree with where the grounders draw their lines - although I'm pretty happy with "don't attack old people and children" as a line, myself - but that's why.
ReplyDeleteAnd Lincoln was a reaper at the time. He was chemically altered. It's like being mad at someone for going on rampage because some force injected meth into their system. He wasn't in control of himself and he hardly asked to get turned; when he was in his right mind, he saved Finn's life, if you remember. Finn doesn't have that excuse. Nobody and nothing was making decisions for Finn but Finn.
Basically, you're comparing these things as if they're all the same, and they aren't. Lots of characters on this show have done very bad things, no one is disputing that. The grounders are hardly innocent, and I'm not going to argue that they are justified for their actions, just that I can somewhat understand their logic in this case. But what Finn did - shooting at scared, unarmed people, most of whom were innocent civilians, with no excuse such as encroaching on territory or being at war or even thinking they had his friends, since he already knew they didn't by the time he started shooting - was wrong, plain and simple, and while I don't necessarily want him to die for it, if it's a choice between that or other people dying for his mistakes, then sorry. Down with Finn.
I hope not I really like her character but since this is both Ravens and Finns backstory it leads me to believe this. I hope it's some else I really don't care if its Finn
ReplyDeleteI hope not I like her but it's a strong possibility because the back story is about Finn AND Raven. Guess we won't know until wensday.
ReplyDeleteI don't like Finn but woah guys cut the hate.
ReplyDeleteIn his defense he did perceive as a threat, he was sure they were lying and had Clarke, and he had no reason to think different since the grounder that had her watch had told them so and in his experience they haven't been the most truthful. Last season when Clarke killed that grounder to escape she didn't get this heat. He didn't have to die, he didn't really pose a threat, she knew he was taking her as a healer to their village, her life wasn't in danger yet she did it and she showed no remorse because she believed she was justified in her actions. What he did was SO wrong, but he had no reason to believe them, as far as he knew a horde of them was coming armed to the teeth. I guess in his fb we'll see him as an idealistic boy only for them to show as how far he's fallen.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Lincoln, I do not hold him responsible for what he did when he was a reaper, that wasn't him as far as I'm concerned. I was talking about last season when they went to rescue Octavia when he stabbed with poisoned thing and he was going to let him die until Octavia cut herself to find out the which was the antidote. So he was going to let him die, yet he wasn't stabbed with a poisoned something just to get even, as a matter of fact Finn saw him escape and didn't say anything, so you could say he "let" him go in a way.
Now regarding Finn making his own decissions I'm not so sure hi was in his right mind. To me he looked too manic, there's was something definitely not right with him, but then again that's my opinion.
I like her too and I don't want her to go, I don't want any of what I call the core five to die (Clarke, Raven, Octavia, Bellamy and Finn), but with all the rumors going around that Finn wasn't the one to take spacewalk but that he actually covered for her going around, it would make sense. I hope we're both wrong and no one diez, but the do like killing people so that highly unlikely. Anyway, I have the feeling that The 100 is going to go to my dl and watch later list after this episode, wethere Finn or Raven dies, and I believe one of them will.
ReplyDeleteCan you not understand why people are angry at Finn?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking that he took the fall for her and this's time somehow she takes the fall and sacrifices her self
ReplyDeleteNah. It's Finn. I saw that the Raven actress has been filming past the midseason finale.
ReplyDeleteThat would be interesting and shocking to see, but I think the Grounders want to kill him.
ReplyDeleteOh that's good I like her character.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I think! She'll interrupt the ritual Lincoln's talking about. Mercy Kill like she did with Atom. How Anya did with the guy in the cart in Reapercussions. Nyko was going to with Lincoln... It makes sense. Lexa will respect Clarke just like she respected Kane's intentions when he was going to give his life. And talk about how the guilt will follow Clarke as she goes on. This is my theory and I'm sticking with it! May we meet again Finn!!!!
ReplyDeleteFinn dying won't be the shocking the moment for fans BUT.... Clarke killing Finn would be!
ReplyDeletedamnit. if Finn dies I officially hate the Grounders. exterminate them all!
ReplyDeleteThat would touching, but with the state of mind he's already in, if you add the guilt he feels for killing those grounders the guilt of Raven "returning the favor", I'm not sure he'll survive it anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but you are really missing the point. The axe in the head of one of the 100 when he was walking through the woods, the virus, the hordes descending on the 100 -- so, what, NONE of the 100 are innocents? They were just a bunch of kids themselves and yet the grounders wanted to eliminate them. Murder every last one. They were going to kill Finn when he and Clarke were captured. They were going to kill them when the sent the virus. They were going to kill them when they ambushed them in the woods. They were going to kill them when they attacked the camp. They murdered the other unarmed innocent captive right in front of Finn, coating him with his friends blood, simply because he couldn't keep up...why the hell would Finn trust them or believe any of them to be innocent. He's just been through hell, literally. There is no such thing as an innocent grounder because in the grounder's eyes there were no such thing as innocent 100s. The Finn hate is ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm not sure IMDB is the most trustworthy site when it comes to this information, but he is listed up to episode 16 of this season, which I think is the entire season.
ReplyDeleteAmen to you!
ReplyDeleteYep, you got it coming Finn. Im sure something will happen the exact moment they are going to put him on fire and boom he is saved!... Tho take one of his hands!
ReplyDeleteI do understand why people are angry at Finn. Heck, I am angry at Finn and believe he deserves a punishment.
ReplyDeleteThis is more than anger though, is it?
Finn's still my favorite character! Come one writers don't make me fall my to my 2nd if you kill him.
ReplyDeleteThank you, I totally agree with you. The hate is all about shippers and nothing to do with storyline or for that matter the art of acting. The character Finn and his actions are to make emotional points (his deep love for Clarke and finding her before he thought she would die) with the audience not to make you love him or hate him with Clarke. So what lengths would any of us go to find and help the one we love. Shippers are overheated drama freaks. The 100 is one of the best storylines on TV THATS what I'm enjoying.
ReplyDeleteThat's bull sh**!!, and when they throwed the spear to Jasper to then hang him in a tree??, were they in war already??, what Finn did wasn't right, OK, but if you people justify ALL what the grounders have done because they are in war, then what Finn did is also TOTALLY justifiable, because of the grounders can kill kids that are just walking in the woods unarmed and without attacking anyone, then their adversaries can do the same attack and kill people unarmed that's doing nothing.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU!! now you made me wonder...
ReplyDeleteMaybe the twist isn't the character but the way he dies. Considering all the cruel things the Grounders have prepared for Finn maybe someone from The 100/Ark will kill him instead.
ReplyDeleteI'm starting to get a bad feeling about Raven and I DO NOT like it.
ReplyDeleteLincoln is the biggest worry right now for me. The arkers are ready to sacrifice Finn for a crime he's supposed to be pardoned for and if they start feeling ashamed of that, they might lash out to the only enemy they can blame: The Grounders. Lincoln is tied up and vulnerable and I don't want them to kill him because they resent what his people are asking them to do. Lincoln and Octavia are like hope to me. If they can work out, maybe peace is possible too.
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ReplyDeleteThey want justice for their dead. That's why they want him tortured. if they just wanted him dead, they would have the sky people execute him. I don't think they would move on even if Clarke put a bullet in his head right in front of them.
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