Thanks to Elena for the heads up.
#Supernatural "Theres No Place Like Home" will air Jan 27th. "The Hunter Games" will air Jan 20th. we shot them out of order
— Todd Aronauer (@TAronauer) December 10, 2014Remember you can see all known episode titles and dates in the Episode Database.
Loving The Hunter Games title. i just wonder how its going to apply....
ReplyDeleteI don't know why they would bother to bump Charlie's episode back a week, since every episode we have seen since DDean was cured has starred some obscure character -- all girls and mostly teenagers. Why not just continue with Charlie? It's not like the J2s actually have a story anyway.
ReplyDeleteThe Hunter Games...omg I love these writers.
ReplyDeleteThey have story it's just a little lighter. We have to remember they've been doing this for 10 years and they have families now. Most shows have like 8 main characters and this one has two and now four with Misha and Mark. Although I love the brothers, I'm okay with the addition of other characters if it gives J2 time to breathe.
ReplyDeleteExcept that she isn't a teenager, she just acts like one...
ReplyDeleteWell that explains it. I was wondering why it was called "There's No Place Like Home", but of course, it's a Charlie-centric episode...
ReplyDeleteI am not okay with dedicating an episode and backstory to obscure characters while the J2s play support, bookends, or stage furniture. I know they have been bumped down to regulars now and only want to work part-time, so rotate episodes between the four leads and I can pick and choose which to watch, but use deceptive marketing to promo MoC Dean all over the media and the episode end up being the Cas/Claire and Crowley/Rowena episode.
ReplyDeletethat be better.
ReplyDeleteSnow? Who's Snow?
ReplyDeleteI see your point but then you have people complaining that they weren't in the episode. There is no way to make everyone happy and since the show still focuses on the brothers, they at least need to be there, even if they are "stage furniture". I mean, who wants to watch an episode totally focused on Cas or Crowley and not have Sam or Dean present at all in the episode? Maybe some do, but I know I personally don't...
ReplyDeleteAlso, Supernatural doesn't make the promos, CW does so that's not entirely their fault. Like how 10.07 focused on the "sex" in the episode but there wasn't anything, it was CW trying to pull in their freaky horny teenage audience.
ReplyDeleteJust a reference to president Snow, villain of the Hunger Games book series.
ReplyDeleteGreat!!! :D The Hunter Games hahaha awesome lol :P I can´t wait!! :) ♥
ReplyDeleteI make two points:
ReplyDelete1. This season, the show has NOT focused on the brothers. Every episode since DDean ended has been episodes focused on some obscure character or brothers taking a road trip to deal with a random, one-off MotW where the Winchesters had nothing at stake. This episode saw the Winchesters helping Cas find Claire, but just like Hannah/Cas was a Hannah story, this episode was a Claire story. Claire is a Cas story, and it is completely removed from the Winchesters. Rowena, so far, has been a Crowley story, but I am expecting the Winchesters to get involved in it in some way, and I don't know yet if that means the Winchesters will play background noise to Crowley's story or not.
2. It could not have been clearer that based on the promo and the sneak peak for this episode, MoC Dean was used as viewer bait. This episode was all about Cas/Claire, with a little Crowley/Rowena thrown in, and then...right at the end...what? two minutes worth of MoC Dean.
As far as I am concerned, that is viewer bait and unethical business practices. Based on what was promoted, I was promised a MoC story. That didn't happen, and that is disrespectful to fans like me who have never missed a live airing of the show beginning with the pilot. As far as I am concerned, honesty is built on a valued trust. If the show lies, that trust is broken...and that lie was told to a viewing audience that has showed extreme loyalty to this show, even to the point of keeping it on the air when that was in doubt.
Yes, you are not wrong in thinking that the J2s ARE the show and if they were not in episodes, viewership will drop. Misha and Mark cannot carry an episode by themselves (because -- again -- in this show, the J2s are the show). Neither can obscure characters or a string of TV trope teenagers. That has not, however, kept the show from reducing the J2s to a regular status and claiming they are still leads, and writing stories for every obscure character that has every appeared on the show and separate stories (exceedingly boring stories) for the other two regulars while the Winchesters have done a cameo or acted as stage furniture.
The caveat here is that I am speaking only to what I have seen so far. Perhaps, and hopefully, after the winter break, there will be something about the Winchesters.
My point is that if the writers have lost interest in telling a Winchester story and the J2s only want to work part-time as they have up to this point, then the show should think about ending instead of using viewer bait to up their viewer numbers (or make short-term gains in numbers for such things as a winter finale).
I understand what you are saying, but again, the show doesn't make the promos, the network does, so don't blame the show for baiting, blame CW. That's all I ask. Everyone has their own opinions on the writing and the direction the show is going in so I won't dispute that. I am impressed that you've seen every live showing since the pilot (I was 10 when the show started and would have avoided it like the plague at that age and didn't start til Season 8 when I found the first 7 seasons on Netflix and have only seen a few during a live airing). I understand your dedication and your frustration, but personally I trust the writers, maybe I shouldn't but I do. I think like I said they are just giving J2 a break and using subtext to tell their story using the other characters. I believe it's just a reprieve from the drama that happened at the beginning of the season and what will most likely happen from 10.10 to 10.23. They've done similar things in past seasons where the first half of the season (minus the first three or four episodes) was very lighthearted and a MoW stuff. But back to my first point, yes I agree with you, there is a trust formed between show and viewers but when it comes to CW don't ever watch the promos because they lie and it's not just Supernatural, it was shows like Star-Crossed and The Tomorrow People, where they showed teens partying and making out instead of what the show was actually about like terrorism and prejudices and other deeper things. CW is aimed towards a teenage audience and they need to realize that the shows they have on, like Supernatural, Arrow, The 100, The Flash, etc. are attracting older audiences not the teens and should start making more serious promos that actually display what the episode is about.
ReplyDeleteI do not trust the writers or the showrunner at all, and I will say the show is an agent of the network and WB, so everything reflects on everything else.
ReplyDeleteI do get that the decision to end DDean so quickly was because there was a big deal made about reaching a 200th episode and all decisions were based around that timeline. I get that. What I don't get is why everything else in the season has been one-off characters whose stories have nothing to do with the Winchesters. These are writers on a network level -- the top of their careers outside of developing their own show and selling it to a network. It should not be difficult for them to have stories that reflect on the Winchesters in some way, and it should not be too difficult to have the Winchesters have something at stake for the season.
I am glad you are optimistic that things will get better in the second half and there will actually be some supernatural and some drama involved. Based on my experience, I don't believe that at this time. I see more episodes dedicated to other characters, with a few sprinkled here and there about the MoC. I expect more teenagers (probably in every episode, and I don't get that new fad at all).
The one positive thing I can say is that the J2s continue to bring a high level of talent to their performances. I think JA has done a brilliant job in his limited screen-time of showing an increasingly "off" Dean, and I am really liking Sam this season. I do hope to see more of them.