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Supernatural - Episode 10.08 - Hibbing 911 - Sneak Peek

1 Dec 2014

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23 comments:

  1. ivan1 December 2014 at 22:15

    i can't believe that Men of Letters have nothing on the Mark of Cain that's so messed up

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  2. fazziemodo1 December 2014 at 23:05

    So they are basically confirming that Sam last season didn't go through the Men of letters files to look for what the mark meant?

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  3. gabygogo1 December 2014 at 23:52

    My theory is that they probably didn't think it was a thing. Did they have anything on angels? They only had information on things they tested or already "knew" about.

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  4. Why Would I Tell?1 December 2014 at 23:55

    So....they're just NOW going through the Men of Letters files to see if they have anything on the Mark of Cain? What about digging through that library last year, right after Dean got it? Or after Dean started showing symptoms of the MOC? Or after the increasingly scary business with the First Blade? They never once before NOW, thought to look for more information in the MOL about this thing?

    Seems like a bit of an oversight, I mean, when Sam doesn't know everything about something, especially stuff that is concerning his family, he hits the books like a freight train. I would've thought Sam, at least, might've done some hardcore looking before now.

    As for the MOL NOT having any information on this thing, that seems a bit strange. They have keys to OZ and ancient rituals, werewolf transgender tomes, knowledge of the Knights of Hell and magazines of vintage porn, but nothing on the Mark of Cain? My number #1 reason for not really believing that, is Magnus.

    I'm more willing to believe - that they did have MOC and First Blade info and it was stolen by Magnus before he left - then the fact that the MOL had no knowledge of it. Cause Magnus, sure as hell knew a great deal about the MOC, The First Blade and what The Blade did to the holder, the effects of The Blade in combination with the MOC, the powers of it, etc.

    So no info in the MOL and I'm gonna guess nothing on the interweb, though who knows, apparently you can find everything on the Internet nowadays - including spells, rituals and symbols, that were only ever cast by ONE witch a LONG TIME AGO and somehow it got onto the Internet - so here's hoping Google will save the day yet again.

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  5. Why Would I Tell?1 December 2014 at 23:57

    They had ALOT of stuff on angels, or theories at least, that's where Sam and Cas got the Grace tracking spell from. It was only theorized to work, as the MOL had never actually been able to get an angel to try it with.

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  6. Misty Pebworth2 December 2014 at 00:13

    People upset becaus they're 'just now' looking in the files for info on the mark....you don't honestly think they haven't been looking there, do you? I would imagine there is a LOT of info to comb through, and given all those documents were written a while back, it's not like they can search the local Men Of Letters Google site and instantly figure things out. They also had a lot going on last season and didn't realize just how bad things would get with the mark.

    Anyway, enjoyable promo. Like that Dean seems stressed and restless, shows that not all is ok with him.

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  7. percysowner2 December 2014 at 00:22

    Well as far as we know only one person ever had the Mark of Cain and that was Cain. It's hard to have lore on a single symbol that is only used once. Plus, the only time it was given was well before the Men of Letters existed. They may have stuff on the Knights of Hell, because they were active through history, but on one mark, I can understand how it doesn't have anything.

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  8. Why Would I Tell?2 December 2014 at 00:28

    Then how is it Magnus had SO MUCH information on it? He knew what it looked like and what it did and what the First Blade did and the effects on the holder when holding the Blade and everything.


    I'm more willing to believe Magnus stole the info from the MOL bunker before he left, and that's why they have no info about it there, rather than to believe that the MOL had nothing on it at all.

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  9. Ksana2 December 2014 at 02:13

    It doesn't confirm anything. It just confirming that they haven't found anything yet. We don't know how much time Sam (and Dean probably) spent last season going through the files. Considering that they've kind of busy and there is huge archive - not unbelievable at all.

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  10. San Summer2 December 2014 at 04:42

    I think the clip confirms the exact opposite. Sam and Dean have been slowly narrowing down the research that the Men of Letters have done.

    Besides, Dean had wanted to focus on Abaddon.

    9.17 Mother's Little Helper

    Sam: Dean, look. I want to find Abaddon, too, but we've been combing through this stuff for days.
    Dean: Well, maybe we missed something.
    Sam: And maybe there are better ways to spend our time than just spin our --
    Dean: Maybe we don't have time!
    Sam: What's up with you?
    Dean: Nothing.
    Sam: Yeah? See, because ever since you killed Magnus, you've been acting... sort of... obsessed.
    Dean: Well, maybe because I want an end to all this. Maybe because if we find Abaddon, then Crowley ponies up the First Blade, and we kill her and him both. So, what you call being "obsessed," I call doing my job.
    Sam: Okay, um... I get it, Dean. I'm just checking in.
    Dean: I'm fine.
    Sam: All right. Hit me up if you find anything.

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  11. Hellboy2 December 2014 at 04:52

    Technically he didn't all he knew was that you needed the Mark to wield the First Blade. And that seems like basic info that was out there.

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  12. Hellboy2 December 2014 at 05:16

    Sam was also seen researching Cain and Abel.

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  13. Martin Anders2 December 2014 at 05:52

    They did look for the information after Dean got the Mark and after he started showing symptoms. And its not that they are not finding any info on it, they are simply not finding anything useful - like how to get rid of it.

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  14. fazziemodo2 December 2014 at 06:21

    Firstly Dean is not the boss of Sam. Sam is capable of looking into the mark and Abaddon at the same time.

    This part kind of insinuates they were looking more into Abaddon than the mark and it was during a point where Sam wanted to go on a case not look through files.

    In fact there was no real evidence that he looked into the Mark outside one screen cap of Sam looking at a computer screen of Cain and Abel info. No mention that he looked through the files for information on it not even with the time Dean was a demon.

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  15. fazziemodo2 December 2014 at 06:26

    One scene of looking at a computer screen doesn't mean Sam did spent a lot of time researching it in season 9 and he never mentioned looking. They have spent longer on Dean looking up Japanese anime than Sam looking into the Mark by himself and it wasn't the focus of his work.


    Show or tell. Assuming is crap story telling.

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  16. San Summer2 December 2014 at 07:29

    The clip confirms that Sam has been researching the mark of Cain all along. The Men of Letters left a huge collection of books and boxes full of documents. It seems that the archiving hadn’t been done in a manner that would make it easy to find whatever information one needs. For there to be only a little bit left to check now shows that Sam has already combed through the majority of the files. After Dean became human again, Sam and Dean spent some time just relaxing together and then they worked cases back to back. There is no way that they were able to comb through the entire Bunker in the little time they have spent there after Dean was cured.

    When Sam and Dean had been researching a way to find Abaddon, they had also been researching the mark because the Knights of Hell were part of the same mythology. 10.01 Black showed Sam researching into human possession because Dean had gone missing. Again, Sam had known to be on the lookout for information about the mark.

    The shot of Sam reading about Cain and Abel on the computer established that Sam was trying to find out more about the mark. It’s just not the most interesting thing to show Sam and Dean researching over and over again if it doesn’t result in any leads.

    Firstly Dean is not the boss of Sam. Sam is capable of looking into the mark and Abaddon at the same time.

    It’s not about that. They had to prioritize. The decision was made based on the information they had of the situation at the time.

    9.17 Mother's Little Helper

    [Scene changes back to Dean sitting at the table in the bunker. Sam enters]
    Sam: Still plugging away?
    Dean: Like a dog with a bone. You?
    [Sam grabs some files from Dean's table and goes to sit at the other table. He
    starts to read the top file.]
    Sam: You were right.
    Dean: About what?
    Sam: Finding Abaddon ASAP. She's mining souls.
    Dean: Why?
    Sam: To create an army.

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  17. ParadiseHeat2 December 2014 at 08:44

    Yes and Dean is a grown up who took on the MOC because he was feeling guilty and sorry for himself, he is perfectly capable of doing his own research for something that at the time was essentially his own problem of his own doing.

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  18. ParadiseHeat2 December 2014 at 08:47

    Dean really loves to whine doesnt he?!

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  19. sharonally2 December 2014 at 09:06

    Nothing is ever of Dean's own doing not when you have 'scapegoat' Sam around who was just so mean to him last year. It made Dean go and get the MOC don't you know.

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  20. chris6842 December 2014 at 12:26

    I think the show spends enough screen time as it is addressing fandom silliness. The 200th episode is a perfect example. We got a glimpse of Sam looking it up on the computer. We didn't need to spend hours watching Sam read through the archives.

    Btw, in the early seasons when Sam was having visions, Sam wanted to track down answers and Dean wanted to go to Amsterdam and pretend there was no issue. Should we be interpreting this too as Dean not caring about Sam?

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  21. chris6842 December 2014 at 12:37

    There were hints that there was some research, but I think they were both dealing with emotional whiplash over the Gadreel-possession / Kevin murder to be in highly focused problem-solving mode.

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  22. Lisa2 December 2014 at 15:16

    If we assume the MoL are "academics" and have a huge library, it makes perfect sense that it would take longer than a year to comb through all the information there. Writing a PhD takes 3-5 years of hardcore research full-time - and we know they aren't going at this full time... Also, nice slam of academic treatments on Supernatural with the "useless" paper Dean points out... though perhaps over his head? ;) Stinky parchment and all that...

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  23. CyanaT2 December 2014 at 15:57

    I'm more willing to believe Magnus stole the info from the MOL bunker
    before he left, and that's why they have no info about it there, rather
    than to believe that the MOL had nothing on it at all.
    Exactly what I think, too... the MoL had a sparse file on the MoC and Magnus stole it. How else would he know that the FB could be used effectively by someone who also the Mark? Until Dean showed him his Mark, the Winchesters were just Henry's grandson/'legacies' and Hunters.

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