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Ratings News - 9th December 2014

Dec 9, 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

Tables being updated live. Please refresh for updates.


Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Monday Ratings
Respectable Return for “Mike & Molly” and “The Great Christmas Night Fight”

Monday 12/08/14

Household
Rating/Share
NBC 6.2/10
CBS 5.9/ 9
ABC 4.6/ 7
Fox 1.3/ 2
CW 1.0/ 2

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Monday 12/09/13:
CW: +67, CBS: +59, ABC: +28, NBC: – 3, Fox: -70

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“The Voice” (NBC), “Scorpion” (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
“2 Broke Girls” (CBS), “Mike & Molly” (CBS), “The Great Christmas Night Fight” (ABC), “NCIS: Los Angeles” (CBS)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Jane the Virgin” (CW), “State of Affairs” (NBC)

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Ratings Breakdown:
Minus “Dancing With the Stars” on ABC in the competitive mix, NBC topped the Monday overnights with a five percent advantage in households over second-place CBS. But all is not rosy in the Monday halls at NBC with episode four of drama “State of Affairs” third in the 10 p.m. hour with a 4.0 rating/6 share. Comparably, this was down by 17 percent from the 4.8/ 8 one week earlier. Overnight retention for “State of Affairs” out of the 9:30 p.m. portion of “The Voice” (7.2/11) was just 56 percent. And this pales in comparison to former time period occupant “The Blacklist.”

“The Voice,” overall, averaged a 7.3/11 from 8-10 p.m., fluctuating by only one-tenth of an overnight rating point in the four half-hours. But, year-to-year, “The Voice” did dip by 13 percent from the 8.4/13 on the year-ago evening.

In season-premiere news, CBS sitcom “Mike & Molly” opened with a second-place 5.4/ 8 at 8:30 p.m., which was perfectly compatible out of the almost identical 5.5/ 8 for lead-in “2 Broke Girls.” And it led into a 6.8/10 for “Scorpion” from 9-10 p.m., which built by 26 percent and remains a bona fide hit new drama. Capping off the night for the Eye net was “NCIS: Los Angeles” at a first-place 5.6/ 9 at 10 p.m., which was 65 percent above failed year-ago occupant “Hostages” (3.4/ 6 on 12/09/13).

Also opening for the season was ABC reality competition “The Great Christmas Light Fight” at a respectable 4.5/ 7 from 8-10 p.m., which was 25 percent above the 3.6/ 6 for the year-ago telecast (from 9-11 p.m.). And that translated into 5.50 million viewers and a 1.4 rating/4 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live Plus Same Day data. Next on ABC was “Castle” at a second-place 4.9/ 8 at 10 p.m., which was 14 percent above the 9:30 p.m. portion of “The Great Christmas Night Fight” (4.3/ 6). But “Castle” minus the lead-in support from “Dancing With the Stars” is not as strong a show.

Elsewhere, The CW was at typical overnight levels for scripted hours “The Originals” (#5: 1.2/ 2) and “Jane the Virgin” (#5: 0.9/ 1), which is clearly worthy of a larger audience from a creative standpoint. And Fox aired encore telecasts of “Gotham” (#4: 1.6/ 2) and sophomore “Sleepy Hollow” (#4: 1.1/ 2).

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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130 comments:

  1. Mark and his love for the virgin is crazy.

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  2. Chill Marc srsly
    Nice for Scorpion

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  3. He doesn't know what "objectively" means

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  4. There's a sentece I bet you never thought you'd say.

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  5. The Originals - 0.7/0.7
    Jane The V. - 0.4/0.3

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  6. Nobody seems to have had a particularly inspiring night based on those top 25, save for The Great Christmas Light Fight. State of Affairs is looking horrible and I was hoping TO could have hit a 0.7 for the midseason finale but this looks like another 0.6, hope to be wrong. CBS did okayish it appears, but I thought Mike and Molly could have helped a bit more. 2 Broke Girls still appears depressed and Scorpion is up but apparently not higher than 2.0/2.1. Hopefully the Voice-less months help it to gain momentum and lock in new viewers.

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  7. At least TO is steady.. hoping that means a 3rd season.

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  8. SofA looks done
    Castle seems to be struggling

    Jane the Virgin seems like an odd fit for the CW it feels more like a show on ABC

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  9. Expected TO to be higher after all the daddy klaus hype they put out, expecting another 0.6 1.3m

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  10. TO only needs other shows on the cw do to worse and well so far so good for them and thats before ratings darlings like batb and hod began ;)

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  11. ABCFamily, maybe. Definitely not ABC.

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  12. CBS should maybe do a marathon for Scorpion

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  13. And I have never expected The Voice to be this low.

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  14. ABC is doing a mini-marathon for Revenge on Jan 8.

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  15. They are probably planning one for Christmas. They've been extremely aggressive in promoting the show since the upfronts, I wouldn't expect them to stop now that it is actually doing well.

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  16. Yup which I guess shows some interest in the show by the network

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  17. I was talking about your comment: Wow, both The Voice and

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  18. Oh, I sent it before completing it. It has been edited now for full comment.

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  19. I heard the talent this season has been bad

    Overexposure is killing it

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  20. It is but NBC is milking this cow for everything that it's worth.

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  21. I could see ABC it has that ugly betty vibe

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  22. They are think too much short term and not long term

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  23. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 2:57 PM

    SOA is below Mysteries of Laura, will last 13 episodes and be replaced by the midseason drama NBC trusts most.


    CBS comedy world crashing and burning, 1.7 is even lower than my worst-case scenario prediction for Mike and Molly.

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  24. That's good given the aging of their other dramas - they need a new hit

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  25. They have no replacements for The Voice right now.

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  26. I think ABC has moved on from its dramedy days.

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  27. It has but it would have been a good fit if they didn't pass on devious maids

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  28. Will CBS take TNF next season again?

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  29. I have always wondered how Devious Maids would do on ABC,

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  30. Most likely but rumor has it that they want the full games.

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  31. Horrible ratings all through the night

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  32. Well, it is a hit and for a freshman, it's doing really well on it's own. I hope it doesn't drop much in Spring.

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  33. Same I could see low 2s

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  34. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    They can't get all of them, TNF on CBS is a plan from the NFL to make people watching their own network and the games they broadcast on thursdays.


    They'll keep at least six games, in my opinion.

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  35. Makes sense which means their thurs nighy line up won't return Til jan

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  36. Like the comment below mine said, it probably won't occur.

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  37. In case your wondering aBC is doing a 3 hr revenge marathon the wk before it returns

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  38. I am aware but other people don't think so.

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  39. How would they even fit that in the schedule?

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  40. No idea... But that's the rumour or so I've heard.

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  41. hmm i wonder if it came down to it - which would cbs renew, 2 broke girls or mike and molly

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  42. Wayward Pines to premiere Thurs May 14 @9

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  43. I doubt TO is in any danger at the moment. I'd be shocked if this doesnt go all the way to 4 seasons given how CW are only bale to produce one new hit a season and have two aging hit shows near to being on their way out.

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  44. 2 Broke Girls has the bigger syndication package - 1.75 million vs 0.750 million - so I think 2 Broke Girls would get renewed over Mike and Molly, even if MM rated a bit higher

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  45. right they already have JTV, Reign, T100 below them and only TVD, SPN, TF, Arrow above them. That keeps them safe for at least another season.

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  46. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    Gang Related 2.0 confirmed.

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  47. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Definitely 2 Broke Girls.


    CBS will renew both, they canceled Millers, they will finish 2.5 Men and they need six comedies for 2016, it'll probably be TBBT, Mom, 2BG, two new comedies (unless their comedy development is poor again) and either Mike and Molly or The Odd Couple.


    They have a problem, however, since Melissa McCarthy's movie career might not help the show.

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  48. Looks like it was a "calm" night...were there any preemptions?

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  49. Nobody knows. It's a big question for us fantasy schedulers as it complicates it a lot .

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  50. And to do so simultaneously in more than 125 freaking countries. That's a lot!

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  51. Not necessarily. Could easily be Under the Dome 2.0.

    And anyway, we probably won't be able to judge it based on FOX's ratings. With all
    this deal about the simultaneous broadcast in more than 125 countries, I
    imagine there are some weird financials behind it. Anyway, I am looking
    forward to the show, it will be nice to have it in June when I usually
    have very little on!

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  52. It's not that hard. Mike and Molly is practically premiering in January, it will only air 2 episodes in December, so that's 20 in the new year alone. If they want to do it they can squeeze in an utility schedule there January-May. But I imagine it would have to be a lot of Mike and Molly, Undercover Boss and other utility players like that, I doubt we would see big bang theory in those conditions.

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  53. I am almost certain that ABC will end the season with a two hour Grey's Anatomy finale leading into the finale of American Crime, otherwise the episode orders of Scandal and GA will be very messed up during the spring and they will be airing original greys into scandal repeats in march or april.

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  54. I don't think they should get the 6 games back honestly. Either go for the whole thing or let it go. It appears to have done little as a promotional platform (unless we attribute Scorpion's success to it, which is a stretch) and I believe the Thursday lineup is bleeding more than it would have done if it premiered in September. Furthermore, they won't keep The Big Bang Theory off the schedule until November so they will have to keep moving it back Monday-Thursday during the season, which is not good for the show (it was already hurt this year), especially as it gets past its peak. I suppose you could argue they could just leave it on Mondays but then I think they will have a very big problem on Thursdays. Yes, they will still have that problem if they get the whole package, but at least it's only from January onwards and they can try to program specifically around that.

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  55. ABC in both Atlanta and Green Bay for football

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  56. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    I agree. CBS shouldn't get the package again.


    They'll inflate their seasonal average but at expense of their scripted options, it's only masking their decline and weakening them as a network, just like NBC ans their awful depth.


    But if they do, they better leave TBBT on mondays and revamp thursdays in january, jerking around with your top show isn't good, NBC has waned The Voice because they have no options, will CBS do the same to TBBT when they could avoid it?

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  57. Ah that explains the very high numbers for The Great Christmas Light Fight

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  58. Yeah, I tought they were a bit high too...and probably a series low for Casle:(

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  59. It's especially hard to come up with a decent schedule for them if they get TNF imo. The best I could do would be a sort of give up Thursdays of second tier comedies (2 Broke Girls, Mike and Molly), dramas (Person of Interest) and reality (Undercover Boss) because I don't see them wanting to hold the first tier shows until that late in the season. But if you put together a night of second tier shows you get a night of second tier ratings as well.

    I also think CBS should let go of one hour of comedy next year until their get their strength back in that department. I would like to see something like this:
    Monday: Scorpion | New Drama | NCIS LA
    Tuesday: NCIS | NCIS NO | POI
    Wednesday: Survivor | Criminal Minds | New Drama
    Thursday: TBBT | New Comedy | 2 Broke Girls | Mom | CSI Cyber or New Drama
    Friday: Undercover Boss | Hawaii Five-0 | Blue Bloods
    Sunday: Madam Secretary | The Good Wife | Elementary

    Backups: Mike and Molly, final season of CSI

    It may seem strange to move broke girls to thursday but with CBS and ABC going with their strongest drama options in the hour, CBS would be wise to counter program with comedy again, I don't see there being an audience for dramas for all three networks (plus FOX, I suppose, I even forget they exist). If the Odd Couple proves renew worthy then I would understand sticking with 3 hours, otherwise I would rather see this.

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  60. interviews with the showrunners in almost every media outlet for one

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  61. Are you back to liking it?

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  62. I wanted to believe that but they are also doing one for Forever the same week and that show is a dead show walking, so I dunno.

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  63. Yeah they do. Celebrity Apprentice, Hollywood Game Night, American Ninja Warrior and Biggest Loser. If NBC can retool Loser and Game Night the can be hits.

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  64. Being from England and not clued in on what a pre emption is It seems to me that only ABC are impacted by pre emptions if so how does that reflect true viewing figures

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  65. Well, I never really "disliked" it.It was my favorite pilot and was kinda disappointed by the later episodes. However, I watched th screener for 1.10 which was really good. I plan on catching up during the winter hiatus.

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  66. Seeing FOX, it's more likely to flop.

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  67. I understand what you mean. I went back and forth during pre-season mostly because I really didn't want another procedural in my rotation of shows but then you and all the positive reviews made me decide to try it and I loved the pilot. Subsequent episodes, while often very good, often also feel like too procedural to me and I find myself struggling to get invested in some of the cases. But sometimes they have some really enjoyable ones so for now I am sticking with the show, I think it's really good at what it does, it's just that I am not entirely sure I want to watch what it does right now lol (if this makes sense?) . And I haven't watched last night's yet but looks great.

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  68. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    I like this schedule, for me, it's hard to see CBS going for 3 hours without The Odd Couple, their only comedy anchor is TBBT, to air six comedies they need at least two to be anchors, because TBBT's audience isn't sticking for 2 full hours (in fact, 40% of it is gone at 8:30).


    About dramas, would you keep POI on a weekday? I can see it being moved since CBS doesn't own it, because of this situation, I'm not sure if there is any weekday drama above it besides Elementary (and this one they can move to sundays at 10). If they decide to premiere two new dramas and renew Cyber, would POI take the spot from H-50 on fridays?

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  69. Castle still going strong even for a Dec showing

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  70. Could be

    Two hour greys means it's gonna be a big finale !!

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  71. Those Castle and ABC numbers include Football from the Atlanta and the Green Bay / Milwaukee area,, so when the Finals ABC and Castle will look worst

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  72. A month ago I thought POI was legitimately in risk of being cancelled when it hit that horrible 1.3 But half a point (or close to it) makes a lot of difference and a 1.7 could be enough to keep it on a weekday IMO. While I agree that it would be the next show in line to move to a weekend night if CBS needed the room on a weekday, I am not sure they do need it. In my proposed schedule above, they are already premiering 2.5/3.5 hours of new programming (depending on Cyber). That's pretty much in line with what they tend to do, excluding this year in which they have programmed an hefty 4.5 hours of new programming. Maybe 2.5 is indeed too little, but 3.5 is okay I think, unless they have a sensational development season (and odds say they are unlikely to have two great development seasons back to back after striking out so many years).

    If Cyber is renewed, maybe I agree that 2.5 is too little. But then again, if they have another year in which Hostages/Intelligence is the best they could do, those 2.5 would still probably be enough. If not, then H50 and POI will fight for the remaining slot. Casual wisdom will favor POI but if the syndication economics are still favorable for H50 I am not sure it's an easy decision. There are also other options such as doing POI/H50/BB, cancelling Madam Secretary or even moving Elementary to Saturdays but in general I tend to think those are more long shots. But I would say let's cross the Cyber bridge when we get there. Right now, precedent about midseason dramas on CBS is not on its side.

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  73. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Then yikes at Castle, ATL is a top 10 market, doesn't get strong ratings for football but its size is enough to create 2+ tenth adjustments.


    Green Bay isn't a top 25 market but its one of the top football markets, I can see castle falling to 1.5 or even 1.4, let's wait.

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  74. Normally if a show is pre-empted for another show/broadcast it normally means that the numbers you see above for those shows will be higher than they actually are, and are likely to be adjusted downwards in the Final Adjusted Ratings that are posted later in the day.

    P.S I'm from England too ;)

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  75. Not really it was preempted in 2 markets and will likely hit lows

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  76. M&M and NCISLA both ran into Scorpion's hour. Maybe might help Scorpion a bit in the finals?

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  77. - CBS had a decent night but I thought Mike and Molly would be higher. But 2 Broke Girls back to a 2.0 are great news for the network. Despite all the bashing that show gets for all the decline it suffered, it's still one of the strongest comedies around IMO. Scorpion is back up above a 2.0 which is good but could be even better and LA is hanging in there .I expect to see the entire lineup increase by multiple ticks in the winter with the voice gone.
    - The Voice is really bleeding. State of Affairs didn't do as bad as the preliminary results suggested but it's not a success either and should be low 1s with the apprentice.
    - ABC looks very good but there were preemptions, so not commenting on that just yet.
    - Pitty that The Originals couldn't reach that 0.7 for the midseason finale, but these are still respectable numbers for the cw.

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  78. The Voice is really bleeding

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  79. The next cycle will either make or break The Voice..

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  80. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    OK numbers for CBS, Mike and Molly could've done better. Let's see what happens in the winter, they'll probably hold until late february when The Voice comes back.


    State of Affairs geting flat out rejected in the top 25 markets but improving in the other ones, I still see it as a long shot for a renewal.


    ABC ratings will probably shed two tenths in the finals and please, keep this 0.5, Jane, you're in life support.

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  81. Jikes TO tying with Jane in that 18-34 0.4!

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  82. Okay for state of affairs :)

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  83. Here are the 1/2 hr Ratings.

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – The Great Christmas Night Flight (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.42 million (#3), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#3)

    CBS – 2 Broke Girls
    Viewers: 7.74 million (#2), A18-49: 2.0/ 6 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 10.55 million (#1), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#1)

    Fox – Gotham (R)
    Viewers: 2.28 million (#4), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#4t)

    CW – The Originals
    Viewers: 1.47 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#4t)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – The Great Christmas Night Flight (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.95 million (#2t), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#2)

    CBS – Mike & Molly (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.95 million (#2t), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#3)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 10.82 million (#1), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)

    Fox – Gotham (R)
    Viewers: 2.05 million (#4), A18-49: 0.5/ 1 (#4t)

    CW – The Originals
    Viewers: 1.35 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 2 (#4t)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – The Great Christmas Night Flight (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.77 million (#3), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#3)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 10.14 million (#2), A18-49: 2.2/ 6 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 10.55 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 7 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow (R)
    Viewers: 1.61 million (#4), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)

    CW – Jane the Virgin
    Viewers: 1.26 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 1 (#4)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – The Great Christmas Night Flight (season premiere)
    Viewers: 7.42 million (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#3)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 9.69 million (#2), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 10.62 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 7 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow (R)
    Viewers: 1.58 million (#4), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)

    CW – Jane the Virgin
    Viewers: 1.21 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 1 (#4)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Castle
    Viewers: 8.21 million (#2), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#1)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles
    Viewers: 8.74 million (#1), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#3)

    NBC – State of Affairs
    Viewers: 6.68 million (#3), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#2)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Castle
    Viewers: 7.88 million (#2), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#2)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles
    Viewers: 8.34 million (#1), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#1)

    NBC – State of Affairs
    Viewers: 586 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#3)

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  84. When I said replacements, it was obviously meant ratings-wise.

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  85. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    Two weeks ago, The Voice's monday edition was the only non-sports show to not fall below a 3.0.


    Now not only it dropped from those numbers but it also didn't come back. Its collapse is slower than Idol's, but I can see it losing 20% next spring compared to 2014.

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  86. TO to adjust up and JTV down?

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  87. Hmm. Looks like Jane will probably keep its 0.5. Hopefully The Originals doesn't adjust down.

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  88. Castle is really low this season.
    Scorpion is back to 2.0+
    Not bad for M&M
    SofA is doing Okay-ish, I guess.

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  89. SOA is still doing ok by NBC standards so its still lokking safe to me.

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  90. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Downward adjustment coming for SOA, 1.7/1.4 is a terrible half-hour breakdown, Blacklist used to lose 3 tenths too but always had higher ratings.

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  91. I will agree with that if it keeps this numbers after the apprentice in January.

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  92. Wait Til it doesn't have TV

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  93. Isn't it already losing more or less that?

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  94. It will be out TV in 2 Wks

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  95. do you really think that Klaus reuiniting with his baby creates hype?
    Only among Klaus fans.

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  96. To be fair, I don't recall the voice ever offering a lead-in of almost 2.5 to the blacklist. I think it was always above a 3.0 or close to it. It doesn't excuse the entirely of SoFa's ratings, but I think it should prevent comparisons with the blacklist.

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  97. not likely with those half hours, 0.6/0.5 and 0.5/0.5 jane will prob hold its 0.5 and same for TO unless it goes down to 0.5 as well

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  98. Last night excluded, the voice is down 15% (both on Monday and Tuesday) compared to where it was last fall. It's not a good trend but it's hardly the disaster people are making it out to be. The average decline this season is 10%, so 5% more than that is bad but still acceptable imo.

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  99. Apart from the mini-marathon last week., M&M got almost zero promotion, though,

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  100. It depends on what failsDecember 9, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    My bet is that NBC is going to renew 6 dramas for next fall, just like in the last two years.


    Three are locks (CF, PD and Blacklsit), Grimm is very likely and SVU only gets canceled because of its costs (I bet it won't get cut now). The final drama is the best newbie, right now is Laura given that SOA has The Voice and midseason competition is going to be huge (Aquarius, Odyssey, Allegiance).


    They might renew seven if they completely pull the plug on comedies, but what I see is NBC keeping just one comedy hour for next season and replacing the other with some unscripted offer, they are a sports/unscripted-fueled network already.

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  101. Half hours have nothing to do with adjustments.

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  102. finally the voice is dying!

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  103. I meant they went out of their way to invite the press to watch it and hype it i´m very aware of the lack of social buzz the recasts as this season ;)

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  104. Alright fine, then they still have Ninja Warrior. And Dateline.

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  105. I just think people comment so heavily on it because NBC depends largely on The Voice's strength.

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  106. None of those rate nearly as well as The Voice.

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  107. Who cares, still replacements.And still enough to keep NBC afloat.

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  108. I don't like the fact that Jane the Virgin is up. It's bad influence for The 100. xD
    But I do like that The 100 matched The Originals this week though.

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  109. Has that actually been confirmed? It seems crazy to me. What will lead into it?

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  110. The Voice doesn't make NBC afloat. Is one of the biggest reasons of its #1 status.

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  111. Or no adjustments...last week its half-hours were also 1.7/1.4 and it kept the 1.6...

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  112. I am not sure it's as easy as you are suggesting.

    1. I don't necessarily think TBL has a place on the fall schedule again after pulling low 1s this year. In addition, with the blacklist on the 9pm slot, I imagine NBC will want something a bit higher helping it out. But we'll know more about that one soon, when they announce what is airing there this spring. But don't count out on them cutting out a reality hour.

    2. I also doubt they go with 4 comedies for the fall again. We are probably looking at 2 comedies (1 hour) only. So that's another hour to cut.

    So while they could still renew the 6 dramas you are suggesting and fill the remaining hours with Dateline+The Voice(x3)+Comedy, that would force them to premiere 3 new dramas in the fall, plus the comedy hour which would probably be all new. That's 4 hours of new programming. It's feasible but the last time NBC did it was when they had the olympics in the summer to help them out (this year SOFA premiered so late that I don't really consider it part of the initial fall schedule). I think it's more likely that they premiere only 3 new hours (2 new dramas + 2 new comedies). That would force them to renew two dramas from this season or to put a 4th hour of reality on the schedule, which I still think is looking difficult. Bottom line? Things are looking up for Laura!

    PS: Grimm is as certain as it gets IMO.

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  113. Scorpion went down from 2.2 to 2.0 that isn't good, right?:( it had a good episode imo, one of my favs. *sigh*

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  114. The Odd Couple is airing after TBBT. It has a very good chance at getting renewed.

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  115. Hopefully it adjusts up.

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  116. Maybe, but it's worth remembering that before the millers, all the rookie comedies placed after the big bang theory died in their freshman seasons, which is why CBS eventually placed 10 year old two and a half men there. How to Be a Gentleman, Shit My Dad Says, Rob all got canned. And while the millers did get renewed, I argued last year that it shouldn't have gotten renewed and the fact that it was pulled after 5 airings this season certainly makes it look like I was right (which would indicate CBS had learned its lesson).

    I have no idea how The Odd Couple will do and I think it has a shot, but the idea that just because it's airing after a big comedy renewal chances improve is iffy at best. Just ask all the MF lead-outs, they too can attest to that. Or the How I Met Your Mother lead-outs that are not called 2 Broke Girls!

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  117. I love it when you say that about 2 Broke Girls! :D

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  118. I agree, it's not certain to be renewed. I was wrong about The Voice fueled comedies as well, so I'm not gonna assume anymore that a big lead-in automatically leads to success.

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