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Ratings News - 3rd December 2014

3 Dec 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

Tables being updated live. Please refresh for updates.


Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Tuesday Ratings
Quartet of Sitcoms Continue to Lag

Tuesday 12/02/14

Household
Rating/Share
CBS 6.2/10
NBC 5.0/ 8
ABC 3.8/ 6
Fox 2.7/ 4
CW 2.4/ 4

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Tuesday 12/03/13:
CW: +50, ABC: +41, Fox: +35, CBS: -13, NBC: -14

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“The Voice” (NBC), “NCIS” R (CBS), “The Flash” (CW), “NCIS: New Orleans” R (CBS), “Chicago Fire” (NBC)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Marry Me” (NBC), “New Girl” (Fox), “About a Boy” (NBC), “The Mindy Project” (Fox), “Forever” (ABC)

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Ratings Breakdown:
CBS was still the top Tuesday overnight draw despite airing repeats of “NCIS” (#1 for the night: 7.4 rating/11 share), spin-off “NCIS: New Orleans” (#1: 6.4/10) and “Person of Interest” (#2: 4.7/ 8). But a 7.2/11 in the household overnights for “The Voice” from 8-9 p.m. should be more than enough to lead NBC to victory for the night in adults 18-49 (and all the key young adult demographics).

Unfortunately, the solid lead-in support from “The Voice” continues to be wasted on 9-10 p.m. lead-out sitcoms “Marry Me” (#3: 3.2/ 5) and sophomore “About a Boy” (#3: 2.9/ 4). While we certainly understand there is much more than the overnights, household retention of just 44 percent for “Marry Me” out of the 8:30 p.m. portion of “The Voice” (7.3/11) just does not cut it. Question for NBC: Do you really need those five additional episodes of “Marry Me”?

Opposite the aforementioned encore telecast of “Person of Interest,” NBC’s “Chicago Fire” led the 10 p.m. hour with a 4.9/ 8, which was 69 percent above lead-in “About a Boy” and 26 percent above the 3.9/ 6 one week earlier.

On ABC, original animated special “Toy Story That Time Forgot” finished third in the household overnights with a 4.2/ 7 in the 8 p.m. half-hour, which should resonate in the key demos. And it led into the annual airing of 1965 special “A Charlie Brown Christmas” at a 4.0/ 6 at 8:30 p.m. (#3). Next on the alphabet net was sophomore “Marvel’s Agent of SHIELD” at a third-place 3.7/ 6 at 9 p.m., which should also get some mileage demographically. But a similar 3.5/ 6 (#3) for freshman drama “Forever” at 10 p.m. could ultimately dip in the vicinity of 33 percent among adults 18-49 out of “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD.”

On The CW, freshman hit “The Flash” built by 15 percent week-to-week with a 3.0/ 5 in the overnights at 8 p.m. Comparably, that was 76 percent above year-ago occupant “The Originals” (1.7/ 3 on 12/03/13). And it led into a 1.7/ 2 (#5) for “Supernatural” at 9 p.m., which increased by 13 percent from both last week and the year-ago telecast. If it is financially feasible, “Supernatural” could very well be back for an 11th season in 2015-16.

Over at Fox, “MasterChef Junior” scored a 3.3/ 5 (#4) in the overnights from 8-9 p.m., which was 35 percent, on average, above year-ago sitcoms “Dads” (2.4/ 4 on 12/03/13) and “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” (2.5/ 4). But 9-10 p.m. sitcoms “New Girl” (#4: 2.3/ 8) and “The Mindy Project” (#4: 1.8/ 3) continue to underwhelm.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


About the Daily Ratings

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The first item that gets posted (normally around 2pm GMT) is the early overnight analysis based on the early household numbers (these are not the same as the Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers that are posted later).

Next, if available, we will post the Top 25 Market 18-49 Ratings to give you a rough idea of the ratings to following.

Later on (normally between 4pm-5pm GMT) we post the official early overnight Total Viewers and 18-49 Demo numbers in the table above (We also where possible now post the 18-34 and 25-54 Demo Numbers).

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192 comments:

  1. The Flash rose and took Supernatural along. Now I am hoping the same happens with Arrow and The 100 tonight!

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  2. Me too. Keeping my fingers crossed for The 100.

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  3. Yay Chicago Fire apparently bounce it back!

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  4. I hope it hits a 2. Last night was the winter finale.

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  5. Come on SHIELD, please be up!

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  6. Go FLASH! Spread good ratings all over THE CW!
    The episode deserves this and much more.

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  7. Wow at The Flash!! I think Arrow will do great ratings tonight due to the crossover! I hope Chicago Fire hit at least a 2.0.

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  8. Wow amazing job for Flash. The last time it got a 3.0 in HH was for the 2nd episode.

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  9. Chicago Fire seems like it rebounded and thats SHIELD's highest rating since the premiere. Lets see about the demos especially for the ABC cartoons.

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  10. Tomorrow I expect Arrow to get close to whatever Flash gets today. Who knows, maybe non-Arrow fans who'll tune in for tonight for the crossover will like what they see and stick around!


    Never saw Oliver smile as much as last night. Thought his face would crack.

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  11. Wow shield!! Please be up

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  12. The crossover bumped The Flash ratings!
    I hope it does the same for Arrow and the show hits a series high 1.4 or similar :D

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  13. I think none Arrow fans will watch Arrow tonight JUST for the crossover. I don't think they'll stick around. Didn't happen for Chicago Fire, Chicago PD and SVU.

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  14. I want Arrow to hit a 1.4-1.5 and that it could propell The 100 up to 1.0/0.9. I know its a long shot (especially for The 100, which hasn't beneffited much from its lead in this season), but hey! A man can dream

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  15. Who had any doubt that SPN wouldn't be back for 11th season,apparently only marc!

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  16. I'd love to see The Flash being that high again! I hope this boost could stick!

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  17. lol what an idiot.

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  18. Marc and his passive agressive hatred for Supernatural is as old of a tale as Everybody Loves Raymond

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  19. Still,there's hatred & then there's delusion!

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  20. We're talking about the same man who listes The Mysteries of Laura as a winner every Wednesday despite knowing it does exactly the same as Revolution on the demos. I think we knew what we were getting into when we read the overnights

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  21. The flash will most probably score 1.6/1.7!

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  22. I can't wait to see those ratings! I'm really hoping it can go the extra mile and deliver a 1.8!

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  23. I dont watch those shows, but wondered if crossovers had any long term effects.
    Well, maybe we'll get lucky.

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  24. Note also how he gave "winner" classification to both NCIS twins.

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  25. I wouldn't be surprised.I hope Arrow benefits from this cross-over and gets at least 1.3/1.4.It can help the 100 a bit in that case,maybe 0.7/0.8

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  26. Rheinmeister09 .3 December 2014 at 14:44

    Yeah I'd love for Arrow to go above 1.0 comfortably tonight...at least a 1.2!!! Fingers crossed!!

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  27. Arrow and The Flash are closer than Chicago Fire, Chicago PD and SVU. They share the same world, they sometime share the same villains.. so I hope Arrow would benefit from the crossover more than Dick Wolf shows.

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  28. I'd love to see those ratings for both Arrow and The 100! Especially for The 100, since it is the show that needs the boost the most

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  29. Ya,the show is too good to not get a 3rd season.

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  30. So if the flash gets at least a 1.6 hopefully arrow can get at least a 1.3

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  31. I think you are a bit too optimistic, just a tiny little bit ;) But of course, one can dream. I definitely think Arrow can crack a 1.0 tonight, and as for The 100 perhaps an 0.7 but I will already be relieved if it stays at 0.6.

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  32. It would be one of the greatest TV crimes made since ABC cancelled Pushing Daisies

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  33. I loved Pushing Daises!

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  34. Same here, a 0.6 will already be good, but if it goes the extra mile I'll be over the moon!

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  35. I'm just happy CW has come a long way since it's GG and 90210 days!

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  36. It is by far the greatest comedy I've ever seen and I'll never forgive ABC for cancelling it

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  37. Is it me or is it everything above last week?
    Those Shield ratings are very encouraging, I think it hasn't had as high as a HH since the season premiere. Is NCIS:NO hurting it in any way? I find it odd that it airs a repeat and suddenly Shield seems to shoot up

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  38. Christopher DeBono3 December 2014 at 14:53

    I've noticed some people on twitter mentioning they're going to give Arrow another go after enjoying The Flash part of the crossover. So hopefully this will win back some viewers.

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  39. Remember the old days when you could watch a show in peace? Before getting addicted to sites like these and obsessing over numbers?
    Lol, Those were the days!

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  40. I hope so! Arrow is a good player for The CW, but deserves even higher ratings.
    Can't wait to see how it performs tonight!

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  41. Hope it happens!

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  42. It could also be the better lead-in.

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  43. Yeah, but those are the same days when suddenly a show went off the air and you were like "WTF?! Where did that show go?!" It first happened to me with Pushing Daisies, then with FlashForward, and so it began my internet investigation.... and here I am every morning! xD.
    I guess though a addictive, it has the upside that I won't find much surprises when it comes to renewal/cancellations/yanking off the schedule. But on the other hand, sometimes it's a bit too much xD

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  44. True, didn't account for that. It certainly had an effect

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  45. Everything seems to be up, yeah. But last week ABC aired the DWTS finale, which certainly hurt pretty much all the other networks. And I do think that the absence of CBS last night might have helped the other networks to bounce back, including Shield.

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  46. Is there any doubt that Supernatural will be back for an 11th season?

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  47. I took a sigh of relief probably Ncis no is hurting it also AOS is trending thanks to Netflix seriously the number of people who became fas in these two weeks is insane hopefully this momentum stays.

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  48. None at all, only if the creative team and cast decides to call it a quit and it doesn't seem to be the case.
    Should they want to, SPN could run as long as SVU

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  49. I think the CW needs to promote The 100 heavily during Arrow, instead of just the weak last second "coming up next"

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  50. Interesting, and also good. I have to caught up with AoS now that I'm on my summer break, but I remember the show becoming good from episode 15 and onwards last season, so I've been rooting for it.
    If it can improve on the ratings and stick with that improvement that would be great :)

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  51. They should. I'm sure Arrow fans could be intrigued by the premise of The 100, they just need to know what it is about

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  52. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:04

    IKR I used to watxh revenge and did not think about ratings at all. Nor did i know that they exist. Those were the nice days

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  53. When I saw that Tom Welling (Smallville) was producing Hellcats on CW, i decided to check it out. I stumbled on to an article on TVBTN, and been following ratings ever since.

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  54. AOS is a great show for binge watching i did it in the summer after learning it got a second season I'm way to choosy about this stuff which is why the 100 is giving me heartaches these days

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  55. I regularly followed ratings since I first heard Fringe was in danger of cancellation... on season 3. Been a rating junkie ever since!

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  56. Toy Story at a 2.2.

    Not bad, especially if Charlie Brown grew from it.

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  57. Yeah it can get REALLY bad on there!

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  58. This might be ABC's best Tuesday for the season (minus DWTS Finale)

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  59. Christopher DeBono3 December 2014 at 15:14

    Nice one Flash! If it doesn't adjust down then it'll match the season high.

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  60. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:15

    I am still waiting for sunday final ratings

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  61. 2.1 early demos for SHIELD and 1.9 for The Flash!!!!!!!!!!

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  62. LOVE THOSE TOP 25 NUMBER FOR THE FLASH AND AGENTS OF SHIELD!

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  63. Patrick Ausgewahlt3 December 2014 at 15:16

    If you see its season 2 ratings, its hard to blame them. After taking 9 months off for the writer's strike, the entire ABC lineup was in shambles and they chose to save Private Practice out of the bunch. It would have been really cool to see them out Pushing Daisies after Grey's, but obviously the spin off made more sense. That being said, the show was awesome!

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  64. Once 2.1
    Resurrection 0.9
    Revenge 1.0

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  65. Hopefully Arrow gets a big ratings boost for tonight's episode!

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  66. Hope those early top 25 markets stick. How sick it would be to see Flash at a 1.9? And Shield back on 2s? They probably will get down, but so far it is looking pretty good for both.


    Crossing my fingers son tonight Arrow goes high!

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  67. I'm glad OUAT adjusted up! I wish Revenge did too, though

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  68. Me too!!!! Hopefully Arrow hits a season or a series high!!!!

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  69. Yeah, I know, but creatively I think Pushing Daisies deserved the shot more than Private Practice... but well, what can you do? That 9 month break really did kill Pushing Daisies

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  70. My prediction for Arrows and The 100 ratings tonight are:
    Arrow - 1.4 and 3.22 million viewers
    The 100 - 0.8 and 1.95 million viewers
    What about you guys?

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  71. Did Flash spill into SPN by a few minutes or did it end on time?

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  72. I still think ABC should have done
    8- Shark Tank Spinoff
    9- AOS
    10- The Whispers




    Does anyone know where the whispers or fresh off the boat are going?

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  73. I'm aiming for series high here! It deserves it and considering the NBC experiences with crossovers, it is entirely possible

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  74. Not yet but there's a chance - however slim - That this will come to pass.

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  75. So far, is looking good for ABC.

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  76. Keep in mind 1) different networks 2) different type of shows

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  77. I think it was just an off week for OUAT- hopefully it rebounds to 2.4 next week

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  78. it has the same top 25 markets as the 2nd episode, so i am thinking 1.6 or 1.7

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  79. I think it will and i hope it keeps its crossover numbers for the rest of the season.

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  80. I know, I'm just saying it is possible. I think The Flash audience will want to watch part 2 of the crossover and that will boost Arrow greatly. It's just an assumption, we won't until tomorrow, but here's hoping Arrow goes as high as 1.4-1.5!

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  81. Probably, I just tend to dream a lot. Still a 1.6 or 1.7 would be great!

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  82. Yes Forever, If that sticks that is a decent number and a big improvement, it tends to match or drop 1 point from the top 25 but even a 1.2 would be encouraging, might even beat Revenge and Resurrection this week.

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  83. I wonder if ABC would consider a new Marvel show but one based off a character

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  84. Agent Carter? lol

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  85. Daredevil could have been the show if it wasn't developed by Netflix. But considering it got made, maybe there will be a new Marvel superhero show, it is just a matter of which and when

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  86. a popular one I mean sotra like Arrow or Flash but instead a marvel

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  87. I mean Arrow/The Flash and even Gotham have been pretty successful compared to AOS

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  88. If Hawkeye was wrote out of the Avengers I could totally see him getting his own show

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  89. They got Ghost Rider and Blade but they're way too dark for ABC.

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  90. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:26

    No because revenge and resurrection were Counted for last week. Also, Revenge should rise this week since it is airing its Winter finale

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  91. Revenge & Resurrection's ratings are part of last weeks ratings. Nielsen is from Monday-Sunday. Forever is dead either way. It's a first season show. Honestly, all 3 shows are done so there's no point in comparing them.

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  92. Wow shield retained well from its lead in probably a 1.8 pretty damn good I'm happy the show deserves great ratings

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  93. Yep, but to be honest AoS did have the chance to be as succesful, it just blew it with its first episodes.
    Now that it is good again it would be nice if it got a good companion series that could prop it up. It is hard to think of one though, there are too many going to movies to think of a possible one to go to TV

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  94. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:30

    How can dumb resurrection adjust up and not revenge. That makes me so angry! I hope revenge rises to a 1.3 this sunday

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  95. I never said they were part of the weeks ratings? Hence why I said IT MIGHT beat them this week obviously Might implying we don't know the ratings for Res/Rev as they havn't aired yet.

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  96. Off week for ABC mate, wait for next week before panicking.
    And please, do not call Resurrection dumb; I love Revenge and I wish it had adjusted up, but you don't see me calling names on other shows. Please don't do that, it's irritating and disrespectful to Ressurection's fans

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  97. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:32

    Oh i also read your Post wrong. My bad

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  98. You get mad when people bash revenge but your bashing another show

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  99. Christopher DeBono3 December 2014 at 15:33

    It's possible, Marvel and ABC were looking at 4 possible options to bring to TV a few years back. Hulk (with Guillermo del Toro attached), Cloak and Dagger, Jessica Jones and Agents of SHIELD.

    Agents of SHIELD ended up happening while Jessica Jones was included in the Netflix deal. Hulk is apparently on hold last I looked into it while Cloak and Dagger were instead added into the Ultimate Spider-Man animated show.

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  100. I could see Hulk doing pretty well

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  101. Haha I was going to reply to urs before Robs popped up as well, No worries, seeing as 2 people have come to that conclusion maybe I didn't make it as clear as I could have.

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  102. A show that drops to a 0.9 from a 2.1 deserves plenty of bashing.


    A show that dropped from a 3.8 to a 0.9 in 16 episodes deserves it too.

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  103. It annoys me that Resurrection still bleeds into the first minute of Revenge. I'm guessing ABC already pre-sold advertising.

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  104. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:41

    I don't think resurrection is dumb and that is nor how i meant it. I was referring to the ratings

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  105. No it doesn't!
    Its performance may be dreadful, but there's no reason to call the show "dumb". It is disrespectful for people who enjoy it

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  106. Revenge and OUAT3 December 2014 at 15:41

    I was not referring to the show more to the ratings. I have never seen resurrection so i will not judge it

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  107. I figured you meant it like that, but still you have to be careful. "Dumb" is not a word that can be thrown like that, it did seem like you were commenting about the quality of the show instead of its performance

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  108. Oh I didn't notice that. I was just talking about ratings. Calling it "dumb" is just a matter of opinion.

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  109. Alright Flash! Knew you'd rise!! It's Arrow's time now.

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  110. One thing is to comment about its dreadful rating performance, which is pretty dreadful, but the quality of the show is something that is better off left alone, or at least treated more carefully. One can't say "I don't like this show" or "it is doing dreadful", but there's a line with words such as "dumb" or "bashing" which seems to comment on the quality of the show and not its actual ratings. It's something to be careful about

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  111. Top25 confuses me much. What was SPN top25 last week, 0.8? Hopefully it stays at 1.0 . Great numbers for TF! One way or the other it was a strong night for CW ( press release is coming in 1..2..) and tonight is going to be a great night too

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  112. I would love it but unless they recast Hawkeye it won't happen. Jeremy Renner is constantly in demand, has several franchises on the go besides the Avengers (Mission Impossible, Bourne) as well as doing more passion projects and indie films.


    Now Marvel has recast roles before like Hulk and Rhodey so its not completely crazy that they would do it but seems unlikely.

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  113. You can see last weeks early ratings table here

    http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/11/ratings-news-26th-november-2014.html

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  114. Yesssssss! Fingers crossed for an eleventh season for the awesome Supernatural. It just gets better and better.

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  115. Supernatural is a certain renewal

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  116. If they wanted to go the route of doing a superhero without the powers (like Arrow) the could always do a show on the second Hawkeye, Kate Bishop.

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  117. Potential timeslots for FOTB: Tuesday 8, Tuesday 9, Wednesday 8:30, Thursday 9 (Jan only), Thirsday 9:30 (Jan only)

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  118. SHIELD: 1.8
    The Flash: 1.5

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  119. Rest of ABC's line-up:
    Toy Story: 1.9
    Charlie Brown: 2.1
    Forever: 1.2

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  120. Flash 1.5 (half hours 1.5/1.6)
    SPN 0.9 (half hours 1.0/ 0.9

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  121. Ratings are now in the table

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  122. I don't see anything.

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  123. Nvm I see them now.

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  124. Im happy for shield it won the hour and with a little bit of promotion and a good lead it can do very well

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  125. Was hoping for higher for The Flash, but that's still great!

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  126. Pretty damn great for The Flash vs. Arrow! And yay to SHIELD adjusting up two tenths! Almost back in the 2.0 range. I'm happy :)

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  127. Flash has been at 1.4 for a while. 1.5 is good but I thought it'd be higher...

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  128. Nicolás Festa3 December 2014 at 16:11

    I still think The Flash will be adjusted up to 1.6... Fingers Crossed! :D

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  129. The Flash will surely adjust up, I can feel it. Also, 4.22 million! Biggest viewership since the premiere.
    AoS over 5 million and a 1.8. It really did benefit from a much better lead in

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  130. Wow! 1.8 Is great for SHIELD up 2 tenths! Shows what Netflix and an NCIS repeat can do, and a good lead in! I can breathe a sigh of relief for this week, on to next week!

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  131. I think the crossover will help arrow more than it helped the flash since flash's ratings are already a lot higher than arrow. Is still see a 1.3 for arrow

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  132. Why so low for CF it was pretty good! Ughh

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  133. Agreed what a relief ABC needs to take note the show can do great if they use their brains to fix the schedule

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  134. Looks like CF hasn't benefitted from crossover

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  135. Happy to see the Flash jump in viewership. I tend to see big episode events like this one in isolation but I hope the Flash maintains itself like it has prior to last night's episode and if it improves after this even better.

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  136. Yeah, I definitely see it adjusting up. I feel good about the Arrow/The 100 ratings tomorrow. And I feel a lot better about AoS's prospects with these ratings. Clearly it can build off a lead-in, so if we get a good one during the spring, the ratings could maybe start averaging out in the 1.7 - 1.8 range. A girl can hope.

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  137. Ugh! First Castle now CF my shows are not have a good week.

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  138. Half Hours The Flash and Supernatural?

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  139. Toy Story and Chicago Fire did worse than I thought they would. And it's unbelievable how steady Charlie Briwn is from the Thanksgiving episode

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  140. This argument is so done. zZzzZzZz

    The crossover was 3 weeks ago and, also, it is kind hard to someone stick around with a 3 year old heavy serialized show!

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  141. Flash: 1.5/1.6
    SPN: 1.0/0.9

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  142. Damn, I fell so fooled by this early ratings and Top25 numbers.
    This 1.6 for CF now seems even worse :((((

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  143. I was expecting higher numbers for Flash, but a final 1.6 will still be nice. AoS surprised me, looks like it could really use a good lead in.

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  144. CF has two basically canceled and awful sitcoms in front of it. Bad programming by NBC. Need to fix it when CF comes back in January.

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  145. "If it is financially feasible, “Supernatural” could very well be back for an 11th season in 2015-16."

    This is already a given, but thanks anyways, Marc.

    And looks like The Flash/Arrow did some good in the ratings. Hopefully Arrow's numbers rise up tonight too.

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  146. Ugh, SPN , I was hoping you'll crack the 1s. At least it steady, and totally no lead-depended ( which is not good if your lead is TF ). Hopefully it will go back to 1s in midsession finale which looks fantastic from promo perspective

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  147. CF is not that serialized, one could easily catch up with the storyline and enjoy the season.

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  148. Netflix and an NCIS repeat really didnt do anything for it....it was just because of the better lead in.

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  149. In total viewers, it's the third highest episode of the season, so I'd say the numbers look very good.

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  150. AND IT'S ALL NBC FAULT!!!! WHY THEY KEEP THIS COMEDY BLOCK????
    Imagine how well it will be when Parks begin? Poor Chicago Fire.

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  151. Good for Flash and AoS.
    I still say that SPN should be moved to another night come mid-season.

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  152. Yes The Flash. And nothing against Chicago Fire fans, but seeing those ratings not being as high as NBC, the show or the fans would like gives me positive vibes for POI's ratings when it airs originals.

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  153. Well, if you compared with The Blacklist, TMoL, Chicago PD or SVU...
    It is heavy serialized.

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  154. How is it NBC's fault? The show is in its 3rd season, it shouldn't be lead independent

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  155. it is a 3rd year show! it shouldn't need a lead in

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  156. Well, they try to fix it (ruin it) with Parks And Rec / Marry Me / About A Boy!
    CONGRATS NBC! -not

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  157. I didn't say it's bad, I'll just hoping for high 1.0s.

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  158. Blaming CF's rating woes on the lead-in is preposterous. CF, like Chicago PD and SVU have a core audience of about mid-high 1's.

    Last year, CF got a 1.7 from a Growing Up Fisher lead-in of 1.6. Its mid-season finale rating has nothing to do with lead-in problems.

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  159. I agree SPN is not benefitting from lead in but would CW risk his megabit by weakening night with possible flop? Becouse there is absolutely no warranty that TF will make another hit or even show with SPN ratings. TVD couldnt. So TF can be stuck with low rated lead-our in spring what can affect its spring ratings.

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  160. It's more serialized than other shows from NBC, but it doesn't mean it's hard to catch up and enjoy the episodes. It's not like Scandal (and yet it manages to grow every season) or Grey's Anatomy.

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  161. I agree SPN is not benefitting from lead in but would CW risk his megabit by weakening hh night with possible flop? Becouse there is absolutely no warranty that TF will make another hit or even show with SPN ratings. TVD couldnt. So TF can be stuck with low rated lead-our in spring what can affect its spring ratings.

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  162. Yes, it shouldn't but NBC prefer waste TV lead-in with those dead comedies block instead of put CF back after TV (since CF's retention is way better)

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  163. I feel like networks are potentially ruining shows that are able to grow from terrible lead ins by airing them after terrible lead in shows,when they clearly have the ability to grow when given the chance! Can't expect Chicago Fire to grow much more than it did from a 1.0 rating. Same applies to Scorpion for CBs and AOS for ABC.

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  164. CF has had nearly 2 seasons of The Voice lead-in. It should be steady enough to hold its own by now.

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  165. While lead-in can help, if the show is good people will come

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  166. CF should have its own audience by now

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  167. SPN viewers totals is the same as last year but they 18-49 is down. Is it skewing older now I wonder.

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  168. Uh no. Chicago Fire only really had The Voice lead in for half a season, in the fall of 2013. And some weeks here and there.

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  169. I don't want to discuss which series is more serialized, my point is, you can't expect that a crossover between 2 shows that ar lower rated then Chicago Fire (and one of these are actually a spin-off from it) be a 'rating-savior'...

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  170. Yes but it should have found its audience by now

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  171. CW press release

    Last night's epic crossover episode of
    THE FLASH was the series' most watched (4.22M) episode since the second
    week of the season (10/14), and tied for its best A18-49 (1.5/5) rating since week two. It was its highest-rated episode in A18-34 (1.3/5) since its third episode on 10/21.

    THE FLASH had its second best M18-34
    rating (1.6/7) of the season, behind only the series premiere, and its
    best M18-49 (1.9/6) since 10/14.

    THE FLASH was tied for #2 in the hour in A18-34 and ranked #1 in M18-34.

    Week to week, THE FLASH was up +22% in total viewers, +18% in A18-34, and +7% in A18-49.

    At 9pm, Supernatural rose +3% over last week in total viewers (2.36M), and was steady in A18-34 (0.8/3), and A18-49 (0.9/3).

    The CW had its most watched Tuesday night (3.29M)
    since the Flash series premiere on 10/7, and was up +14% over last week
    in total viewers, +10% in A18-34 (1.1/4) and +9% in A18-49 (1.2/4).



    Versus this same week last year, The CW's Tuesday night is up +39% in total viewers, +10% in A18-34 and up +9% in A18-49.

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  172. Well, the bad thing about that is that the Arrow part of the crossover wasn't a good representation of Arrow. No broody Oliver, no whining Laurel, no flipping Roy, etc.


    So if they tune in expecting what they saw on The Flash they might be disappointed.

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  173. Ambar Moreno Candelas3 December 2014 at 17:43

    Yeah, Supernatural!!! :) ♥

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  174. Would Hulk work on a TV budget, though, considering the effects it would require?

    In general, I *am* partial to the idea of ABC adding another Marvel show, if only so they'd have something to pair with AoS.

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  175. I was hoping the Toy Story/Charlie Brown double would help AOS and it did! Yay.

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  176. I would be down for that, I love Kate in the comics and a female lead would fit the ABC model more (assuming Agent Carter does well for them)

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  177. yay AOS up! Chicago Fire still steady :)

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  178. Quality does not do a damn thing for ratings.

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  179. Marvel's shared universe is really a double-edged sword. It's awesome and epic on the one hand, but really limits their TV division on the other hand. All the A-listers are appearing in the films, so they don't have any well-known, popular characters available for their TV series. Meanwhile, gets to use iconic heroes like The Flash or villains like Deathstroke and Ra's al Ghul on TV because it doesn't prevent them from featuring those characters on the big screen as well.

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  180. Christopher DeBono3 December 2014 at 18:06

    That's personally the real reason I think the show was put on hold. The public reason was that they decided to take the Hulk character in a different direction then Guillermo del Toro had planned.

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  181. SHIELDNCISArrowfan3 December 2014 at 19:57

    I think Arrow should rise.......

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  182. How is 1.6 a bounce back?

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  183. Do people honestly think the Toy story/Charlie Brown audience is the same as the AoS one? All this talk about lead-ins acts as if people have no remote. Genre show like AoS depend on a reliable audience; the only kind of lead-in that would work would be a show of the same genre for those, since they don't have universal appeal.


    AoS is more likely getting by on good buzz and Netflix I would think. Especially with its overarching storyline that requires a whole picture view.


    Lead-ins are only really useful from one comedy/procedural to the next or similar audience shows.

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  184. Well it looked like the episode indeed reached 1.6 after the adjusted ratings.

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  185. Supernatural cada vez melhor! #Supernatural Forever

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  186. When I wrote that I only had a 'early ratings' post and if you read it, you'll see that they say "Chicago Fire is up week-to-week" or something like that. :)

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