THEA PLEASE FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT MERLYN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, it's gotta be Maseo finding Oliver, so merlyn is the one that tells them about Oliver
I'm a proud New Zealander but not a proud New Zealand TV viewer. We consider a series being 9 months late a bloody good turnaround. Very, very frustrating.
OMG is Felicity alone in the foundry when Malcolm tells her? Poor baby, this is going to hurt so freaking much, not only is she alone and there is no one to support her but she has to tell everyone else? :'( Malcolm seriously I despise you. I can't wait until you die :\ I wonder who is going to find Oliver, he doesn't look like Maseo, mmmmm this should be interesting. This hiatus is killing me!!!!!
He doesn't look like Maseo to me but I could be wrong, we have to wait to find out :\ I hate waiting! I never liked Malcolm. I don't like killing but seriously that man needs to disappear from earth. The phantom zone could be really helpful right about now lol
Arrow cave has become the villains hang out lounge now. Be it Slade, Malcolm, Boomerang, Cupid or the whole LoA all of them just waltz in and have a good time. But Thea the one who spends most time over the Arrow cave have no idea. It's just funny.
I wonder if Malcolm reveal Oliver's death to Thea? Also what is his end game? I hope he has a huge role when Oliver is away and we see some movement to Thea's story.
"Arrow cave has become the villains hang out lounge now. Be it Slade, Malcolm, Boomerang, Cupid or the whole LoA all of them just waltz in and have a good time. But Thea the one who spends most time over the Arrow cave have no idea. It's just funny." hahahahahahahahahahaha I was thinking the same thing lol pretty much every big villain has been there, it's becoming a social club lol
Yay, thanks for posting! Really wonder what Merlyn's motivation and endgame is. Also, surely Team Arrow won't believe him, I mean it's Malcolm. I'm still not sure if Malcolm is the one to save Ollie though.
The scene of Roy running in the tunnel looks cool. I wonder what he's doing.
Me too, I would have to see the body, this is Oliver Queen after all the man who was presumed dead for five years then came back. So unless you see a body with your own two eyes; you can't believe that he is really dead, and even then don't be so sure lol
But Team Arrow doesnt know that. Merlyn can tell them anything. Unless they have a way of contacting Nyssa, they only have his word or the evidence he presents.
So this is going to be our life for the next 5 weeks? Speculating and driving ourselves crazy? We barely survived the one week hiatus before the crossover and the mystery of Felicity's shirt catching fire lol
nice on the Phantom Zone but you know he'd figure a way out and yeah i guess i'm just HOPING it's Maseo since they were friends and he has to be in there somewhere
i've been saying since season 2 that they need tho get the hell out of there ever since Slade attacked but nope they keep staying there like nothing happened, it's actually annoying
oh that IS Roy i was trying to figure out who that was, cool, well he IS stepping up as the main protector of Starling until Oliver comes back maybe he's fighting a baddie?
My guess, too. One of them. I think there are three reasons Oliver would work for or together with Malcolm: Malcolm threatens Thea (in his own weird way of actually wanting to protect her) or his friends; or he's been drugged; or he enters into a partnership of convenience with Malcolm to eventually defeat Ra's al Ghul. To be honest, I'd prefer none of this. The last one not yet at least. I hope it's Maseo finding him... A month to wait. Damn! :(
Second that, the only shows we get express are Arrow, The Flash and The Blacklist. Premiering the best new drama (HTGAWM), halfway through the season is just stupid.
It is, especially in the beginning of this season. Oliver didn't own it anymore so it wasn't safe, anyone could've went there and inspected it. And it was abandoned so there was no reason for them to be there a lot so anyone paying attention would've noticed a group of people always going there for no apparent reason. And by the way didn't Thea ever wonder where Oliver was living before 3x05?!!!!!
yeah he's said that before but i don't see it, all he cares about is his own life he can't keep saying he's protecting Thea when made her a killer, damn it she was the purest of the Queens and he destroyed that i want him dead for that and killing Sara
In Germany we're about 6 months, sometimes a year behind the original air dates, due to synchronisation. Wouldn't have thought some shows would be that behind in an english speaking country.
I never said that he "loves" him as a son I said he "sees" him as a son. I don't think that man is capable of loving anyone, not even his children. I never believed that he truly loved Thea and the last episode proved that. He thinks of his children as chess pieces that he uses to achieve his goals. Just heirs to his sick kingdom. He wants them to be powerful and ruthless like him so he can proudly say that they are his children, not because he will be proud of them but because he will be proud that they came from him.
Yeah, I agree. Though, I still worry for the amount of digging his nails even more into Thea... I mean, she loves him so much already, so if she thinks he's the only one, even when Oliver returns... I'm just even more worried now with Malcolm, just because of how they keep letting his plans be the main thing to succeed no matter what.
I just hope that at least at the end of the season, they'll make Malcolm at least go away for the next season, because it's getting a little overwhelming again.
Let's keep in mind that it's going to be multiple episodes with only his SICK mind to play in on her more and more, and DJ douche. It's still realistically speaking going more and more toward the point of no return with how much she loves him and blindly trusts him.
Yeah, can I just say that the whole thing with Malcolm is making this show more about him, then about Oliver? Let's recap that Malcolm's plans are the ones that always succeed, even if it seems like he died in the process. And now with only five months he's completely ruined Thea to the core, without her knowing it, and is going to get to do that even more...
And not to mention, the whole instantly letting Oliver say that Malcolm was under his protection, was the most lame ass way of the writers and producers just giving into their John Barrowman crushes again and not caring if it's just unrealistic in every way.
The whole thing of Oliver working even more with his NEMESIS, let's not forget this even mroe than this show is just forgetting it every episode lately, that Malcolm is supposed to be his nemesis, and Slade is supposed to the the anti-hero? But instead, they're making Malcolm the utter mastermind of the show that rules over everyone, and that him "seeing" Oliver as his son and "thinking" he gives even the slightest crap about Thea should just be a good enough motivation for the viewers to love him just as much as the crew of the show obviously does.
I'm just saying, I'm going to be pretty done with this show slowly but sure if it is actually Malcolm coming to save him. It would again be such a lame and weak thing to let happen.
The safest bet is still Ra's. He was impressed with Oliver a few times actually, and his last rites to Oliver were pretty showing of him not really planning on letting him die. Ra's was supposed to be the villain this season, putting Malcom even more on the foreground would be just... Ugh, it's just annoying. Who knows how long he's going to keep getting exactly what he wants, how long it's going to take for Thea to finally see the freaking light about him and actually be Oliver's sister again instead of his freaking pet-plaything even.
I get that next to Oliver, Malcolm is by blood the only family she has left, but I still think the whole loving and trusting him the most of everybody, even obviously more than Oliver, is also really lame and only even more backward character-development time and time again for Thea. They've been making her less toward what she could be as much as they possibly could, so I still wonder how much most people are just gonna hate her guts as much as possible by the time they finally stop this BS of wanting to prolong making her Speedy as logn as possible or whatever, and instead almost going toward making Malcolm Oliver's partner, that is better and just obviously so much smarter than Oliver in every way..
as much as i hate it, isn't Merlyn sort of the Lex Luthor to Oliver's Clark? as in he'll always be here and i need him to stay away from Thea and Thea needs to join Team Arrow so they can protect her from Merlyn
No! That's the thing! Okay, my knowledge of the thing between Superman and Lex Luthor isn't the best, but again, I'm pretty sure they used to be best friends and all that. Oliver and Slade used to call each other brothers! If anyone has always been the Lex Luthor to Oliver, than it's Deathstroke and Slade, NOT The Dark Archer who is his biggest enemy.
BUT, obviously the writers and producers are confused about this too, since Slade unrealistically hates Oliver even without the Mirakuru, and Malcolm is for some reason some super honorable guy that is just smarter than everyone, and I'm really starting to freaking hate it.
And she should! She should finally join them, have them protect her from further ruining her character by "dad" >.< And finally become Speedy, instead of halfly conituing to refer to Roy as Speedy. Again, just them being desperate because they regret calling Thea Speedy from the start and being obvious about it, and now? Now they're just doing every desperate act to go in against that, even if it means, as it already kind of does, ruining her absolutely completely, while in the meantime still making Malcolm the center of this show, and not Oliver.
And now they're already pointing out, just with John Barrowman who is in my opnion getting a little TOO full of himself, are hinting at how Merlyn is going to be the epic savoir of Oliver, even if he is the one that put Oliver and Thea in this position, with again, his absolutely perfect devious plan that no one ever saw coming... And how there's going to be SO much Malcolm when the show returns, so I take it on their word that Thea is going to be ruined even more instead of finally having her join team Arrow and being made the person she should be? Because if for episodes without Oliver being presumed alive again, and DJ-douche showing his stupid face again too... I have less and less hope for Thea's actual fate, and it's really pissing me off.
Specially since I still feel like the bond, and the way Thea looks at Malcolm, is utterly and utterly unrealistic to the core.
So I really hope the writers and producers and everythign are going to stop being such wussies about having made it so obvious about THea, get over their crush on John Barrowman, and just make things awesome and realistic again. And make Thea Speedy!!
actually Lex Luthor and Clark Kent being best friends was only in Smallville because it was an origin story and i don't remember Team Arrow calling Roy Speedy and yeah you're right i need Thea to officially become Speedy and be with the team and Thea to be with her brother, they're all they have left and i need them to be safe with each other (God i miss the scenes they had in season 1 and early season 2, i haven't seen such a brother-sister relationship that i've loved in a while and i loved them so much and now that they're living together i'm hoping for more scenes like that instead of them lying to each other)and to finally destroy Malcolm Merlyn
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THEA PLEASE FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT MERLYN PLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, it's gotta be Maseo finding Oliver, so merlyn is the one that tells them about Oliver
ReplyDeleteI'm a proud New Zealander but not a proud New Zealand TV viewer. We consider a series being 9 months late a bloody good turnaround. Very, very frustrating.
ReplyDeleteOMG is Felicity alone in the foundry when Malcolm tells her? Poor baby, this is going to hurt so freaking much, not only is she alone and there is no one to support her but she has to tell everyone else? :'(
ReplyDeleteMalcolm seriously I despise you. I can't wait until you die :\
I wonder who is going to find Oliver, he doesn't look like Maseo, mmmmm this should be interesting.
This hiatus is killing me!!!!!
really? i thought he WAS Maseo, who else would rescue him:Bruce Wayne? LOL, so you're officially in the train of wanting Merlyn dead?
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't look like Maseo to me but I could be wrong, we have to wait to find out :\
ReplyDeleteI hate waiting!
I never liked Malcolm. I don't like killing but seriously that man needs to disappear from earth. The phantom zone could be really helpful right about now lol
Arrow cave has become the villains hang out lounge now. Be it Slade, Malcolm, Boomerang, Cupid or the whole LoA all of them just waltz in and have a good time. But Thea the one who spends most time over the Arrow cave have no idea. It's just funny.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Malcolm reveal Oliver's death to Thea? Also what is his end game? I hope he has a huge role when Oliver is away and we see some movement to Thea's story.
"Arrow cave has become the villains hang out lounge now. Be it Slade, Malcolm, Boomerang, Cupid or the whole LoA all of them just waltz in and have a good time. But Thea the one who spends most time over the Arrow cave have no idea. It's just funny."
ReplyDeletehahahahahahahahahahaha I was thinking the same thing lol pretty much every big villain has been there, it's becoming a social club lol
Yay, thanks for posting! Really wonder what Merlyn's motivation and endgame is. Also, surely Team Arrow won't believe him, I mean it's Malcolm. I'm still not sure if Malcolm is the one to save Ollie though.
ReplyDeleteThe scene of Roy running in the tunnel looks cool. I wonder what he's doing.
I think that's why he brought the sword, so they can analyze the blood and know that Oliver was stabbed with it.
ReplyDeleteHaha true. But I mean if it were me I would probably demand more proof.
ReplyDeleteMe too, I would have to see the body, this is Oliver Queen after all the man who was presumed dead for five years then came back. So unless you see a body with your own two eyes; you can't believe that he is really dead, and even then don't be so sure lol
ReplyDeleteMaybe LOA/Ra wants to keep is as trophy.
ReplyDeleteGreat promo.
ReplyDeleteWill Felicity believe Malcolm?? Does he tell Thea??? C'mon 21 Jan...
ReplyDeleteThat's a really nicely done promo !
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if the man on the phone halfway the promo saying I
want you to come back... is that Ray Palmer ?
I don't think so, it's probably because he fell off the mountain so it would be difficult to retrieve the body.
ReplyDeleteits from Gotham.
ReplyDeletewoah, woah, Merlyn is a dick but he's the one character I actually still enjoy without issues :P
ReplyDeleteHowever I'm sure it's Merlyn who save Oliver, he hands over the sword that killed Oliver to Felicity and the guy finding Oliver wears a hood
But Team Arrow doesnt know that. Merlyn can tell them anything. Unless they have a way of contacting Nyssa, they only have his word or the evidence he presents.
ReplyDeleteAh okay ! I don't watch that show so didn't know !! Thank you !!
ReplyDeleteI hate that word but I agree he is what you said and I HATE him SO MUCH! :P
ReplyDeleteI was just saying if he has the sword then he is probably the one who saved Oliver. But why would he tell them that Oliver died?
I just love to hate Merlyn. He is so devious, loving it. He just plays the game as an evil guy and I hope we get much morr from him along season 3.
ReplyDeleteSo this is going to be our life for the next 5 weeks? Speculating and driving ourselves crazy? We barely survived the one week hiatus before the crossover and the mystery of Felicity's shirt catching fire lol
ReplyDeleteI wish they would have waited after Christmas with this promo. Its gonna be too much.
ReplyDeleteIt was already too much for me :(
ReplyDeleteI know, right? ^^
ReplyDeleteThey would obviously look for Ollie after a while, if he tells them that he's dead he can take Ollie in, train him...make him his Thea 2.0
Maybe his plan was to break Oliver to a point without repair
hopefully beyond season 3
ReplyDeletenice on the Phantom Zone but you know he'd figure a way out and yeah i guess i'm just HOPING it's Maseo since they were friends and he has to be in there somewhere
ReplyDeletebut why Oliver would never join him
ReplyDeleteNow Oliver knows that he's no match for Ra's
ReplyDeletei've been saying since season 2 that they need tho get the hell out of there ever since Slade attacked but nope they keep staying there like nothing happened, it's actually annoying
ReplyDeleteand i doubt Merlyn is too honestly no one could take down Ra's, except maybe Nyssa
ReplyDeleteLOL it's what the show does to us
ReplyDeleteMerlyn beat Nyssa, if he can't, she can't either.
ReplyDeleteyeah then they're all in deep doody LOL
ReplyDeleteoh that IS Roy i was trying to figure out who that was, cool, well he IS stepping up as the main protector of Starling until Oliver comes back maybe he's fighting a baddie?
ReplyDeletetotally, I'm so excited for the next Ra's-Oliver confrontation
ReplyDeleteI would guess it might have something to do with that drug he gave Thea more than a psychological thing. But that's just my guess.
ReplyDeleteheartbreaking
ReplyDeletewhat
ReplyDeleteFelicity's face is heartbreaking
ReplyDeleteBut you guys are on point with Arrow and The flash?
ReplyDeleteMy guess, too. One of them. I think there are three reasons Oliver would work for or together with Malcolm: Malcolm threatens Thea (in his own weird way of actually wanting to protect her) or his friends; or he's been drugged; or he enters into a partnership of convenience with Malcolm to eventually defeat Ra's al Ghul. To be honest, I'd prefer none of this. The last one not yet at least. I hope it's Maseo finding him... A month to wait. Damn! :(
ReplyDeleteIt's a night club. Bad guys need one, too...
ReplyDeleteLMAO THE SOURCE!!!
ReplyDeleteSecond that, the only shows we get express are Arrow, The Flash and The Blacklist. Premiering the best new drama (HTGAWM), halfway through the season is just stupid.
ReplyDeleteIt must be exhausting to be evil, all that plotting and thinking. They need to unwind.
ReplyDeleteIt is, especially in the beginning of this season. Oliver didn't own it anymore so it wasn't safe, anyone could've went there and inspected it. And it was abandoned so there was no reason for them to be there a lot so anyone paying attention would've noticed a group of people always going there for no apparent reason. And by the way didn't Thea ever wonder where Oliver was living before 3x05?!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIt could be, I think in a weird way he actually sees Oliver as a son. I think he sees the man he wanted Tommy to become.
ReplyDeleteI HATE WAITING. Why do we have to wait that long to find out :\
ReplyDeletehahahahahahaha congrats
ReplyDeleteI literally can't hide from this fandom LMAO
ReplyDeleteI've noticed lol
ReplyDeleteThere are 7 different shows in the promo but all the comments are about Arrow :D
ReplyDeleteLOL but maybe they should literally go undeground or a Watchtower LOL
ReplyDeleteweird right? LOL Arrow IS showing more scenes than than the rest though so it makes sense
ReplyDeleteBut around a year behind everything else. Being on point with 2 shows (that I don't watch) is a copout.
ReplyDeleteyeah he's said that before but i don't see it, all he cares about is his own life he can't keep saying he's protecting Thea when made her a killer, damn it she was the purest of the Queens and he destroyed that i want him dead for that and killing Sara
ReplyDeleteOh but I thought I saw some other shows like how to get away with murder that looked like they were on the schedule.
ReplyDeleteIn Germany we're about 6 months, sometimes a year behind the original air dates, due to synchronisation. Wouldn't have thought some shows would be that behind in an english speaking country.
ReplyDeletePlus it had one of the best midseason finales ever, so people want to talk about it.
ReplyDeleteI never said that he "loves" him as a son I said he "sees" him as a son. I don't think that man is capable of loving anyone, not even his children. I never believed that he truly loved Thea and the last episode proved that. He thinks of his children as chess pieces that he uses to achieve his goals. Just heirs to his sick kingdom. He wants them to be powerful and ruthless like him so he can proudly say that they are his children, not because he will be proud of them but because he will be proud that they came from him.
ReplyDeleteHigh Exemptions(2014) sneak peak
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Yeah, I agree. Though, I still worry for the amount of digging his nails even more into Thea... I mean, she loves him so much already, so if she thinks he's the only one, even when Oliver returns... I'm just even more worried now with Malcolm, just because of how they keep letting his plans be the main thing to succeed no matter what.
ReplyDeleteI just hope that at least at the end of the season, they'll make Malcolm at least go away for the next season, because it's getting a little overwhelming again.
Let's keep in mind that it's going to be multiple episodes with only his SICK mind to play in on her more and more, and DJ douche. It's still realistically speaking going more and more toward the point of no return with how much she loves him and blindly trusts him.
Yeah, can I just say that the whole thing with Malcolm is making this show more about him, then about Oliver? Let's recap that Malcolm's plans are the ones that always succeed, even if it seems like he died in the process. And now with only five months he's completely ruined Thea to the core, without her knowing it, and is going to get to do that even more...
ReplyDeleteAnd not to mention, the whole instantly letting Oliver say that Malcolm was under his protection, was the most lame ass way of the writers and producers just giving into their John Barrowman crushes again and not caring if it's just unrealistic in every way.
The whole thing of Oliver working even more with his NEMESIS, let's not forget this even mroe than this show is just forgetting it every episode lately, that Malcolm is supposed to be his nemesis, and Slade is supposed to the the anti-hero? But instead, they're making Malcolm the utter mastermind of the show that rules over everyone, and that him "seeing" Oliver as his son and "thinking" he gives even the slightest crap about Thea should just be a good enough motivation for the viewers to love him just as much as the crew of the show obviously does.
I'm just saying, I'm going to be pretty done with this show slowly but sure if it is actually Malcolm coming to save him. It would again be such a lame and weak thing to let happen.
The safest bet is still Ra's. He was impressed with Oliver a few times actually, and his last rites to Oliver were pretty showing of him not really planning on letting him die. Ra's was supposed to be the villain this season, putting Malcom even more on the foreground would be just... Ugh, it's just annoying. Who knows how long he's going to keep getting exactly what he wants, how long it's going to take for Thea to finally see the freaking light about him and actually be Oliver's sister again instead of his freaking pet-plaything even.
I get that next to Oliver, Malcolm is by blood the only family she has left, but I still think the whole loving and trusting him the most of everybody, even obviously more than Oliver, is also really lame and only even more backward character-development time and time again for Thea. They've been making her less toward what she could be as much as they possibly could, so I still wonder how much most people are just gonna hate her guts as much as possible by the time they finally stop this BS of wanting to prolong making her Speedy as logn as possible or whatever, and instead almost going toward making Malcolm Oliver's partner, that is better and just obviously so much smarter than Oliver in every way..
as much as i hate it, isn't Merlyn sort of the Lex Luthor to Oliver's Clark? as in he'll always be here and i need him to stay away from Thea and Thea needs to join Team Arrow so they can protect her from Merlyn
ReplyDeletetrue that, i've never seen a show that's done that before
ReplyDeleteNo! That's the thing! Okay, my knowledge of the thing between Superman and Lex Luthor isn't the best, but again, I'm pretty sure they used to be best friends and all that. Oliver and Slade used to call each other brothers! If anyone has always been the Lex Luthor to Oliver, than it's Deathstroke and Slade, NOT The Dark Archer who is his biggest enemy.
ReplyDeleteBUT, obviously the writers and producers are confused about this too, since Slade unrealistically hates Oliver even without the Mirakuru, and Malcolm is for some reason some super honorable guy that is just smarter than everyone, and I'm really starting to freaking hate it.
And she should! She should finally join them, have them protect her from further ruining her character by "dad" >.< And finally become Speedy, instead of halfly conituing to refer to Roy as Speedy. Again, just them being desperate because they regret calling Thea Speedy from the start and being obvious about it, and now? Now they're just doing every desperate act to go in against that, even if it means, as it already kind of does, ruining her absolutely completely, while in the meantime still making Malcolm the center of this show, and not Oliver.
And now they're already pointing out, just with John Barrowman who is in my opnion getting a little TOO full of himself, are hinting at how Merlyn is going to be the epic savoir of Oliver, even if he is the one that put Oliver and Thea in this position, with again, his absolutely perfect devious plan that no one ever saw coming... And how there's going to be SO much Malcolm when the show returns, so I take it on their word that Thea is going to be ruined even more instead of finally having her join team Arrow and being made the person she should be? Because if for episodes without Oliver being presumed alive again, and DJ-douche showing his stupid face again too... I have less and less hope for Thea's actual fate, and it's really pissing me off.
Specially since I still feel like the bond, and the way Thea looks at Malcolm, is utterly and utterly unrealistic to the core.
So I really hope the writers and producers and everythign are going to stop being such wussies about having made it so obvious about THea, get over their crush on John Barrowman, and just make things awesome and realistic again. And make Thea Speedy!!
actually Lex Luthor and Clark Kent being best friends was only in Smallville because it was an origin story and i don't remember Team Arrow calling Roy Speedy and yeah you're right i need Thea to officially become Speedy and be with the team and Thea to be with her brother, they're all they have left and i need them to be safe with each other (God i miss the scenes they had in season 1 and early season 2, i haven't seen such a brother-sister relationship that i've loved in a while and i loved them so much and now that they're living together i'm hoping for more scenes like that instead of them lying to each other)and to finally destroy Malcolm Merlyn
ReplyDeleteNot enjoying tv programs in new Zealand to many DIY shows not to mention NCIS plus a lot of other crappy shows. I am really enjoying Vikings though awesome show wish they would screen it on tv.
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