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Castle - Episode 7.10 - Bad Santa - Sneak Peek

5 Dec 2014

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19 comments:

  1. WOW, that's terrible, you just got married, and in front of your wife, a cop? The subtle line between comedy and bad taste was crossed too many time by Castle writers, it's pretty insulting to women in general actually.

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  2. "For you Rick I'm happy to help and the boys are too?" Too Funny.

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  3. Didn't see nearly as much judgment for Kate nearly kissing another guy.

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  4. This sp is à real test of hoe much credit the creaseys have build up too the shippers while in sitting on the couch going /popcorn

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  5. But but... The creaseys know how too write à couple?!?!?

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  6. So looking forward to this episode. It looks like it's going to be another great episode.

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  7. Actually you need to let that go too. Castle has had encounters with women since then and Kate got those situations just as Castle got that one.

    This is just ogling at members of the opposite sex other than your SOs. Castle is doing it here, Beckett has done it too in the past. They just aren't that couple who make a big deal of these things.
    How the viewers judge these depends on their own values and principles and they project that on these characters. We all do that when judging a situation even if it's none of our concern, but it's better to realise not everyone has the same take on these things. To you Beckett getting kissed by a guy is worse but to the above commenter Castle staring these women is worse. Clearly Castle and Beckett (the characters) have a different view on both these things, thus they either forgive or understand and let it go and move on.

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  8. The fact that we have different opinions doesn't mean we should express them less.

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  9. Okay so here are my thoughts on both issues:
    Here we have Castle ogling other women (and hey if those women chose to be strippers then all the power to them), shortly after they got married. Marriage is a commitment.
    Then we have Beckett's almost-kiss in Season 5, when she was still insecure about their relationship and whether or not Castle appreciated her.
    The difference being that Castle's openly ogling women after promising a commitment to Beckett whereas she almost kissed a guy during a time she felt insecure and annoyed.

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  10. Kate's insecurity doesn't invalidate the committed relationship they were in. Besides, she was openly ogling that guy she almost kissed as well. Pretty much throughout the entire episode, sometimes right in front of Castle.

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  11. My parents have been married for 40 years. You know what? They both oogling the opposite sex. The difference is? They know they are committed to each other and love each other. The same thing both Beckett and Castle understand. That's what grown ups in grown up relationships do. I'm not saying you have to like it, but a lot of relationships aren't like, "OMG! You looked at her/him! We're through!" because they understand the love and committment to one another. And I'm glad that Castle has shown that a relationship can be as open as this one and involve nothing other than oogling, and that a strong woman doesn't have to be jealous because she's confident in her man and in herself!

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  12. Problem is we are all judging these situations according to our own principles. What's better to get is that different people in different relationships have different views and principles.

    This is why this is an issue for some people whereas it CLEARLY isn't one for Castle and Beckett at all. I tend to agree with how they are seeing it as no big deal.
    If Beckett has no issue with it (because she knows they are completely committed to each other even if occasionally they appreciate other hot people) who are we to say anything. We all ogle at hot celebs/models all the time in spite of our relationship status but a fictional character doing it makes him/her less commited. *eyeroll*

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  13. I think you have forgotten the part where Castle actually understood that mistake and they moved on. Just like Kate understood and forgave Castle for his encounters with the reporter then the geisha even the Gates kiss was no big deal to her. She let them go and they both moved on instead of making a big issue out of. Clearly these are two very different people from you with different relationship from what you want. Just like you are entitled to yours, they are entitled to be able to forgive/forget and move on. You don't have to like it, but you can acknowledge that this is about two different people with different views from you.

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  14. And you can't seem to grasp the concept that the viewers aren't Castle and Beckett. Just because the characters feel a certain way about a situation doesn't mean the viewers need to feel the same way.


    And besides that, they're not the same thing. Castle tried everything he could to keep that reporter off of him without blowing his cover at the same time, Kate only had their relationship to ruin and she game within half an inch of doing so of her own free will.


    She stopped the kiss at the VERY last second, and she was about to kiss him because she wanted to. Castle didn't want to kiss that reporter, he was trying to get away from her.


    There's a huge difference between Castle trying to stop someone from kissing him, and Kate WANTING to kiss someone else so much that their lips were half an inch apart. If you can't understand that then I agree, we're not going to see eye to eye on this.

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  15. Agreed. Which is why I had to point out what a healthy, loving relationship looks like. My parents met on a blind date, got married 3 months later, and have been married for 40 years and still love each other. And life was never perfect for our family, my brother even passed away, and they're still together where a lot of relationships have fallen apart with something like that happening. I'm so glad that the Castle writers can show that you can be in a loving, committed relationship, and do things like this without the other resorting to jealousy or having issue with it (as my mom says, "just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't look at the menu"). It's refreshing because TV doesn't always depict great relationships like that.

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  16. Kate pushing him away totally said she wanted to kiss him. She acted and that's what matters and that's what castle accepted. Just like Kate accepted Castle with the geisha and the reporter or gates.

    If the characters are can forgive and forget so can we or at least we can accept that they and the writers have different views than us. Both being equally valid and respectful. To each his own at the end of the day.

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  17. True. Also no person stops looking at the members of the opposite sex ever after they get married. Nothing wrong with even appreciating other people's beauty. Esp if your SOs does the same occasionally and is fine doing itjust like Castle and Beckett are. If relationships ended every time sth like this happened people wouldn't remain together ever.

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  18. I don't find this a problem. The problem is that Castle is still the goofy sidekick to Kate. I thought we've moved passed that.

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  19. I have only one thing to say to those who have commented here that Rick ogling at the ladies in this clip (or Kate almost kissing another man in a different episode) are a "crime" because they are married/in a committed relationship:

    A friend of mine once told me these wise words (he had just recently been married): It is okay to look at other women/men, even if you are in a relationship. If LOOKING (or THINKING ABOUT) other people is a crime/considered cheating, then we are all "guilty"/have all cheated. There is nothing wrong in looking.

    He has been happily married (all marriages have ups and downs, but generally speaking happily) now for 20 years. But whenever I read articles or comments on this topic, I always remember his words. Because I agree with him.

    The question here really IS what are each viewers personal views on this, and what values and principles we all have. And also "jealousy level". A little bit of jealousy is healthy and good, but feeling jealous and insecure whenever your partner even looks at another person means there is no trust in the relationship, and hence the relationship cant work because there is no foundation to make it work. Strong relationships built on trust and commitment do not crumble when the people in the relationship look at others...as long as it is just looking and appreciating a look/a body. There is no need to feel jealous or insecure if this happens if you know and trust your partner. And I believe in Castle & Becketts case there is no doubt they have a strong relationship. And I personally do not believe either one of them would cheat on each other. Each couple is different, and if these two are okay with the other "flirting" with strangers in front of their life partner, then that is cool.



    I also do not think this scene is anything else than "a comedic relief" moment. Just for fun/comedy. So I do not take it very seriously.

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