Malcolm Merlyn filmed scenes where it was 'cold', 'wet' and 'high up'. He also mentions that he was on 'a mountain'. So most likely Malcolm was either watching or will be the one who saves Oliver.
that's wrong. He said they're still shooting episode 3.09 and he was in the mountain (I guess the scene was cut?) and that he hasn't even read 3.10 yet.
Or Ra's is a title that originally belonged to Merlyn but lost it after being defeated by the "new" Ra's and it's all a means to an end to get his title and position back?
on-location shoots are often shot back to back, at times you'll see scenes that were shot months ago alongside other scenes that happened earlier on simply because it's cheaper and easier to do so.
to further elaborate: if I write a feature I first split it up into locations. That way I know where to shoot what and can wrap my feature quicker than usual.
For example: Saw 2 only took a few weeks to film. Why? Because there were only two main locations
If Malcolm saves Oliver, I must say that the writers did a good job then because he would be the last person I would think of saving Oliver. Or maybe he DOES care about Thea and doesn't want her to lose her brother also ??? Just an idea ....
Malcom wasn't stabbed in the heart lol only way for that was if oliver stabbed himself in the heart too lol. Ollie stabbed himself in the shoulder and then slightly adjusted it making him believe he killed him when in his mind he wounded him and knew he would die bleeding out.
I think the spoiler is his description of where he will be: very cold and wet on a mountain. Guess how Oliver survives being kicked off the cliff? Malcolm comes and saves him. Major spoiler indeed.
i doubt thta if you care about your daughter you drug her and make her kill someone, but it's Malcolms mind so he could definetlly go fr that kind of twisted reasoning xD
Yeah, they could make him go for that kind of twisted reasoning, specially if they want to ruin the show... Malcolm finally showed what a heartless monster he is, so it would be REALLY dumb if they shift it AGAIN and make him save Oliver, even if he doesn't bring him back to Star City.
It was already one of the biggest and unrealistic things of the entire show that Oliver SO easily believed Malcolm and let him stay around, further manipulating and mind-controlling Thea if he wanted. So yeah, I'll be really pissed off if they make Malcolm be that semi-good guy which they annoyingly keep making him out to be and svaes him. I'd even rather hav3e Oliver just being completely dead than Malcolm doing something like that again... Just let that guy come out as the villain and nemesis that he's supposed to be, not that twisted logic in your heads of: 'Our villains are the heroes of their own stories.' That DOES NOT count for Malcolm anymore! Not after you made him ruin Thea this much already, so just fuck off with Malcolm, or give him his own show or something, he's been ruining this one long enough already.
Even without her knowing it, I still can't remember Speedy being a killer, so I still don't know how they're planning on doinb that, or when they plan on FINALLY letting Thea realize what Malcolm is NOT her father but that Robert Queen was her father, with how he raised her and actually took care of her instead of mind-controlling her like a freaking pet or something.
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Barrowman is a great actor, he can make me hate his character Malcolm but in real life he comes off as really likeable.
ReplyDeleteTranscript anyone?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the spoiler?
I just watched the video and I dont see any major spoilers... I dont really get it.
ReplyDeletecold and wet
ReplyDeleteHe's said he's about to film 3.10 at midnight and it's on a mountain top so I guess Malcolm will rescue Oliver or be the one to declare he's "dead"?
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ReplyDeleteMalcolm Merlyn filmed scenes where it was 'cold', 'wet' and 'high up'. He also mentions that he was on 'a mountain'. So most likely Malcolm was either watching or will be the one who saves Oliver.
that's wrong. He said they're still shooting episode 3.09 and he was in the mountain (I guess the scene was cut?) and that he hasn't even read 3.10 yet.
ReplyDeleteIts possible that the scene was cut in 3.09 in favor for 3.10 bc MM was nowhere during the fight.
ReplyDeleteThanks everyone.
ReplyDeleteMalcolm saves you know who.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od5dBodc_90#t=15
ReplyDeleteThey would have filmed the rescue scene for 3x10 at that time as they already had the set in use..
ReplyDeleteSo Merlyn saves Ollie...didn't see that coming
ReplyDeleteYep, it could be just a matter of logistic... They had the whole set ready.
ReplyDeleteNo, what makes me wonder... What's Merlyn's end goal?
ReplyDeleteHe could not posibly believe for a second that Oliver would kill Ra's... I'm still thinking Ra's isn't the big bad but Malcolm is.
Could this all be for the sake of reviving Tommy? Idk, i'm pretty damn lost...
maybe he want access to the Pit......
ReplyDeleteOr Ra's is a title that originally belonged to Merlyn but lost it after being defeated by the "new" Ra's and it's all a means to an end to get his title and position back?
ReplyDeleteon-location shoots are often shot back to back, at times you'll see scenes that were shot months ago alongside other scenes that happened earlier on simply because it's cheaper and easier to do so.
ReplyDeletei was thinking something like it, Malcom might possibly be aiming at the leadership of the league using Ollie to obtain it.
ReplyDeleteHe was filming 3x09 though. The scene might be deleted
ReplyDeletenot deleted, they wrapped all their location scenes in a row. Who knows, we may get to see more scenes from there in the next few episodes
ReplyDeleteagain: usually you wrap your on location shots up quicker and back to back.
ReplyDeleteYou won't come back to a hard location to shoot at, you'll wrap all of it in one go
But I think merlyn is inStatling city. There was a spoilers about Roy having a confrontation with him. (Don't know which episode though)
ReplyDeleteto further elaborate: if I write a feature I first split it up into locations. That way I know where to shoot what and can wrap my feature quicker than usual.
ReplyDeleteFor example: Saw 2 only took a few weeks to film. Why? Because there were only two main locations
Episode 11.....still have time to go rescue or spy on where Oliver went
ReplyDeleteWhere was that spoiler? He might just be there, if Barrowman already says that it's cold and wet and on a mountain it clearly suggests where he is.
ReplyDeleteDoubt they'd cut him out of the scene entirely
or save him, take him to someone to heal him up and go back to Starling
ReplyDeleteMalcolm somehow survive an arrow to the heart? so I sure Oliver can survive his injuries.....somehow
ReplyDeletewell...Oliver was stabbed into his liver, his lungs and thrown off a mountain. The crash might at least have shattered most of his bones
ReplyDeleteIf Malcolm saves Oliver, I must say that the writers did a good job then because he would be the last person I would think of saving Oliver. Or maybe he DOES care about Thea and doesn't want her to lose her brother also ??? Just an idea ....
ReplyDeletethat would be reverse batman begins scene.......villain save hero......
ReplyDeleteThat's a good theory ! Although it sound unreal because Ra's said that it has been 68?? years since he was challenged to a fight...
ReplyDeleteGoing by context Oliver won't be back to Star City until episode 14. So if Merlyn is the one that he doesn't immediately bring him back to Star City.
ReplyDeleteIt could be a technicality. Ra's wasn't challenged, Ra's challenged Merlyn and took his place.
ReplyDeleteit's 67 lol
ReplyDeleteStephen posted a photo on facebook where all of them with a crew member together in jackets and Nyssa is holding a starbuck coffee lol
ReplyDeleteMalcom wasn't stabbed in the heart lol only way for that was if oliver stabbed himself in the heart too lol. Ollie stabbed himself in the shoulder and then slightly adjusted it making him believe he killed him when in his mind he wounded him and knew he would die bleeding out.
ReplyDeleteI think the spoiler is his description of where he will be: very cold and wet on a mountain. Guess how Oliver survives being kicked off the cliff? Malcolm comes and saves him. Major spoiler indeed.
ReplyDeleteFrom the promo the chinese guy says Oliver Queen is dead like he is standing over his body and announcing it.
ReplyDeletei doubt thta if you care about your daughter you drug her and make her kill someone, but it's Malcolms mind so he could definetlly go fr that kind of twisted reasoning xD
ReplyDeleteSo they leave Oliver apart from team Arrow for 5 episodes? seems unlikely.
ReplyDeleteOliver is back at the end of episode 12....I think in the dying minutes of the episodes he turns up. He's definitely not gone for 5
ReplyDeleteI doubt Malcolm will save Oliver........I don't think John would spoiler a major plot element
ReplyDeleteYeah, they could make him go for that kind of twisted reasoning, specially if they want to ruin the show... Malcolm finally showed what a heartless monster he is, so it would be REALLY dumb if they shift it AGAIN and make him save Oliver, even if he doesn't bring him back to Star City.
ReplyDeleteIt was already one of the biggest and unrealistic things of the entire show that Oliver SO easily believed Malcolm and let him stay around, further manipulating and mind-controlling Thea if he wanted. So yeah, I'll be really pissed off if they make Malcolm be that semi-good guy which they annoyingly keep making him out to be and svaes him. I'd even rather hav3e Oliver just being completely dead than Malcolm doing something like that again... Just let that guy come out as the villain and nemesis that he's supposed to be, not that twisted logic in your heads of: 'Our villains are the heroes of their own stories.' That DOES NOT count for Malcolm anymore! Not after you made him ruin Thea this much already, so just fuck off with Malcolm, or give him his own show or something, he's been ruining this one long enough already.
Even without her knowing it, I still can't remember Speedy being a killer, so I still don't know how they're planning on doinb that, or when they plan on FINALLY letting Thea realize what Malcolm is NOT her father but that Robert Queen was her father, with how he raised her and actually took care of her instead of mind-controlling her like a freaking pet or something.
oh i agree, half-good half-bad doesn't work, i am convinced Malcolm has a bigger plan, even if he's the one that saves Oliver.
ReplyDeleteIt's going to be interesting to see how the characters are going to adapt to Ollie absence, and im also curious to see how Oliver is going to be used.
ReplyDeleteYes . That could be true !
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