Script Tease 1
Arrow Ep. 3x09 Dialogue Tease: "There's one thing I need to ask you to do." - Felicity to Oliver
— Marc Guggenheim (@mguggenheim) December 9, 2014Script Tease 2
Arrow Ep. 3x09 Dialogue Tease: "I'm envious. You'll see her before I do."
— Marc Guggenheim (@mguggenheim) December 8, 2014Script Tease 3
Arrow Ep. 3x09 Dialogue Tease: "Oh my god, you're cheating on someone." - Felicity
— Marc Guggenheim (@mguggenheim) December 10, 2014Script Tease 4
Arrow Ep. 3x09 Dialogue Tease: "Sara's backpacking in the Andes." - Laurel
— Marc Guggenheim (@mguggenheim) December 10, 2014
Hmmmm...and that is???
ReplyDeleteI guess any other teaser dialogue would consider too much of a spoiler
ReplyDeleteThe other one was most likely Nyssa to Oliver about Sara... He will die first and see her in vigilante heaven xD
ReplyDeleteYou have to admit, the dude really likes that pairing Jajajaja
ReplyDeleteHe could tease about A LOT of more important stuffs, yet he teases Olicity xD
well it's kind a given to get reaction. It would be the "safest" spoiler if there would not be the Asia and NZ promo, which always give away too much.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the heads up, we have updated the post
ReplyDeleteMeh it keeps important plot stuff a secret so I don't see the problem at all. Plus even then it makes some fans happy.
ReplyDeleteit makes sense - I was trying to get my head around who said it to whom.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought was that it was Ra's who says it to Oliver.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought was that it was Ra's who says this to Oliver.
ReplyDelete"Don't die." - Felicity
ReplyDeleteTease 2 is Nyssa to Ollie.
ReplyDeletenyssa talking about Oliver seeing Sara in the afterlife?
ReplyDelete"Come back to me."
ReplyDeleteThe Asia one was super spoilery wasn't it!?!?
ReplyDeleteGah! The Olicity will be the end of me!! I have no clue who is saying the second one. But i will wait til tomorrow. I don't want to theorize on this one. I'm not even going to watch the sneak peek, b/c i was warned it had major spoilers, and i DO NOT want to be spoiled for this episode. I'm gonna be so surprised, it's gonna be crazy. LOL Can't wait for tomorrow!!
ReplyDeleteRemember the mantra to calm down... :D
ReplyDeleteIs it Thursday yet?????
It does sound like Nyssa to Oliver about Sara. And with Oliver going up again Ra's, it makes a lot of sense.
ReplyDeleteHuh. Never thought of that, but that'd be kind of darkly romantic. For some reason I'm thinking its Lance talking to Dinah maybe about Laurel? Followed up by him saying something like 'she's avoiding me'. Now that I think about it your guess makes more sense than mine though.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I mean I love spoilers but some promos just take away the surprise. Don't get why e.g. they showed Maseo being part of the LoA on the pictures...
ReplyDeleteYou mean "it's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a sh.... off to watch the crossover episodes"? That mantra? Hahahahahaha
ReplyDeletesadly not yet :(
Not to die?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Nyssa al Ghul to Oliver about Sara
Oh that too! That would have been a huge WTF moment for me. Oh well. :-)
ReplyDeleteMaybe Ray if he apologized to her and said that he shouldn't have done what he did and tells her that he needs to devote his time to other things (the suit) but she thinks he's married or something and says that so he shows her the suit?
ReplyDeleteThe third sounds like a Ray/Felicity thing... Good to see there's gonna be some comedy here too. The episode was looking way too dark.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Felicity will think he was seeing someone when he kissed her and that's why he stopped?
Yeah the cheating on someone thing is definitely Ray/felicity
ReplyDeleteThe second one is obviously Nyssa to Oliver regarding Sara, and the third one it has to be Felicity/Ray, right?
ReplyDeleteTease 3 is Felicity to Ray, and a slight nod to his comic counterpart's relationship with Jean.
ReplyDeleteHmm.
ReplyDeleteyou mean "woosah, woosah"?
ReplyDeleteFelicity will most likely ask Oliver to kill Ra's if he has the chance. Marc Guggenheim said she will said a thing that may look out of character, but given her emotional state it's fine: She will say to him that she doesn't care if he kills Ra's because she doesn't want him to die...
ReplyDeleteShe will ask him to kill Ra's.
ReplyDeleteoh sorry did I spoil that to you?
ReplyDeletemy torture will be that the earliest I can watch this episode will be in 24 hrs and not beeing tempted to go on spoilertv via app.
I REALLY don't want Quentin to know, at least not until they find the killer.
ReplyDeleteLos Andes? Like in "Cordillera de Los Andes"? She's so close! xD
ReplyDeletePS: Can someone put here the weird intereview in wich Marc Guggenheim clarafies that 3x10-12 ARE NOT a Laurel/Black Canary Trilogy but a Team Arrow trilogy with a lot of focus on Roy(who will have to "step up" acording to the EP).
I mean... What the f**k? How can he say "don't know why they said that"? Seriously, what's the problem with Arrow writers and Laurel? I'm quite pissed off...
Didnt he & AK say it to the cameras during crossover?
ReplyDeleteDon't know... I'm reading that interview right now and it's like he's washing his hands on that matter.
ReplyDeleteThey chose this storyline so they should stick with it. They could have said that we will see Laurel take a step to her comic persona in episodes 10-13. But they said the word centric. So this is bullshit trying to blame someone else.
ReplyDeleteWere they just scouting people's reaction? Seriously... What the hell?! They clearly said a Laurel Centric Trilogy! I leave the segment:
ReplyDeleteGuggenheim: A lot’s been made about how episodes ten, eleven, twelve are a very sort of Canary-centric arc. I don’t know where that idea came about. I really feel like ten, eleven, and twelve are really about Team Arrow. And Roy is a huge part of that. In fact, because of the events of episode nine, Roy is going to really have to step up in episodes ten and beyond. Roy not only does that but Colton [Haynes] anchored that and he delivers some of his finest work on the show including a real gangbuster scene in episode eleven between him and John Barrowman. There’s a lot of good stuff coming up for Roy. Ten, eleven, and twelve is not going to be all Laurel all the time. Certainly it has some pretty big character developments but there’s a lot of stuff for the rest of Team Arrow as well.
I'm actually totally starting to worry that we're going to get 3 episodes of Guilty. It's going to be long break before Oliver comes back.
ReplyDeleteIf the ratings coming back are terrible, what are they going to do? Is it like a testing phase to see how far they can go?
ReplyDeleteBased on the OOC comment you might be right. But I hope not. I don't like any pretense where Felicity asks for death as a favor to her. That makes no sense with her character who asked for death rather than have Oliver kill again. I don't like rewriting really good character moments with bad ones.
ReplyDeleteI could take come back alive whatever it takes, don't hold yourself back kinda thing. But not kill him for me. That is not Felicity, even Felicity using her loud voice.
Oh no, you didn't spoil. I was just agreeing that they shouldn't have released the shot of Maseo, cause it would have been a good surprise.
ReplyDeleteIt's not quite OOC. Because it's most likely her fear of losing him. That was what Mark was trying to say.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is Oliver has no chance... He is walking to death with open arms. In that moment she doesn't care. It's selfish? Yeah, maybe... But again, she doesn't want to lose him.
It might seem OOC but it's not when you put context to her words...
I actually think it was a testing on how people would react to Laurel as the true lead... The truth is that while a lot of people(people here on SpoilerTV was very interested) liked it, one big portion didn't.
ReplyDeleteJohn Campea, when he told Stephen Amell his problems with Laurel said he recieved thousand of re-tweets and favourites cheering for what he said and a a couple of dozens telling him to commit suicide.
They clearly said it was gonna be a Laurel Trilogy so what's the reason to say "no, it's not... It's a Team Arrow/Roy episode with a few Laurel scenes".
There's no way they made a mistake or told a white lie...
That doesn't make it make sense for me. First off, she has never been about walking into death with open arms, she's about finding another way. Secondly, if Oliver is going to his own death, asking a for the favor of Oliver killing Ra's for her, makes no sense. Asking him to not die makes sense. But if the motivator is sense of impending doom, the asking for a big win seems illogical. It's not fear or anger, it's just not her to be concerned with Ra's living or dying instead of Oliver living. Like I said, do anything necessary to come home, that makes sense. Kill the guy you couldn't possibly defeat for me, sounds like a spoiled princess request of a suitor she never wants to see again. And it is selfish, for "me" when does Felicity ever think in those terms? Never before, and Oliver's gone off before. She's asked for "promise me" you'll come back but that's different than a favor of death.
ReplyDeleteWell, they definitely seem to be ratcheting back based on the spoiler crowd, that could just be rhetoric to ensure those guys tune in (although saying it's Roy-centric doesn't help their cause for me). The real test are ratings after a couple of Laurel-centric episodes, if that's what they are. But if they are terrible what can they possibly do? They have to commit to the character, they've thrown so much at her. It just feels like they are trying to prove/disprove a theory: people didn't like Laurel because she wasn't Black Canary yet. When she Black Canary people will like her.
ReplyDeleteBut it almost sounds like they are concerned at what will happen if she becomes Black Canary and people still don't like her. The B plots on Arrow are the weakest points and it feels like we're going to have 3 episodes of B plots. They can't course correct this late in the season and coming back to 3 (potentially) weak episodes after the powerhouse crossover (and hopefully finale) would really be a huge loss of momentum.
I am still clinging vainly to the hope that the will be the introduction of ATOM as a force of light and inspiration, with some team melodrama thrown in. But it is a slight hope.
Well, if he goes against Ra's without the intent of killing him... Then he's pretty much dead already. If he has a moment of doubt, then he's dead. Ra's is no Slade Wilson, no Cyrus Gold, no Malcolm Merlyn; he is like nothing Oliver faced before.
ReplyDeleteIdk if she's gonna use the word "kill", but i think she will imply that. There isn't another way. If he wants to have a glimmer of hope for surviving he needs to forget every human fiber he has left for that fight.
The thing is she believed in him to be capable of defeating Merlyn and Slade... But like i said, Ra's is another thing.
Tonight, the moment you see Ra's playing with Oliver like a sack of potatoes you will understand what i mean.
He once told her "There was no choice to make" when Vertigo was gonna kill her... She is telling him the same, because this time there's not other choice, for real. There's no way to out think Ra's.
Diggle would agree with her on a heartbeat.
For me, and i said it here a lot, the episodes 3x10 to 3x12 are a stand alone trilogy to kill some episodes. They are doing a sort of Lemire's Broken comic book run:
ReplyDeleteOliver is presumed dead so Digg, Naomi and Fyff try to take down the gangs led by Richard Dragon that took over Seattle when Green Arrow wasn't there(3x10). They try and fail(3x11) and finally Oliver returns and he and Digg take down the big bad(3x12).
The thing is except Richard Dragon you have Brick and except of Digg, Naomi and Fyff you have Digg, Felicity, Roy and Laurel... Maybe the Suicide Squad?
They're shooting episode 14 now and Marc Guggenheim said he saw parts of The Atom suit. So it's still not done.
Now, the Season has 23 episodes, right? Minus 9 of the first half you still have 14. Well a villain like Ra's is diferent than Slade.
So you do filler episodes that leave you with a good numer to do a back-to-back serialized story:
Trilogy 10 to 12? Three episodes less. You have 11. The real Laurel centric episode(3x13, "Canaries")? You get 10. The Slade episode? You have 9. A Suicide Squad episode? Still 9. Two more villain-of-the-week episodes? You end up with 7.
Now you bring Ra's to Starling and do an EPIC serialized story back-to-back. And you didn't burn any ideas concerning Ra's.
I think that's what they're doing.
I think we're disagreeing about the language here.
ReplyDeleteI'm fine with Felicity saying "do whatever you have to." Because logically, Oliver is going to lose and he can't go into an explicitly stated fight to the death with one hand tied behind his back. It's a duel to the death, death is implied. I don't think Diggle, Felicity or Roy would disagree with that. These aren't Oliver's terms they are the league's. The no kill rule doesn't apply.
I'm not okay with Felicity saying "There's one thing I need to ask you to do. Kill him." That is making executing Ra's a favor for Felicity, not a plea for Oliver to stay alive. It is the language I have an issue with, even if the final action of the "favor" might be the same.
It is embarassing the way these people act on public platforms. First they called episodes 10 to 12 Laurel's canary centric triology. Then they gave out the title of episode 13 as canaries. People naturally assumed all four episodes are vehicle to develop Laurel into BC and those who followed spoilers already knew Oliver will be almost absent in first 3 episodes. He even said Laurel fans will be happy. Which made people who are not Laurel fans think they will definitely not be happy.
ReplyDeleteNow he is doing damage control with this interview and the interviewer did not even ask about it. People who has seen season 2 has seen how boring the Laurel and Lance family centric episodes are like. I do not think ratings will be terrible but there will certainly be a dip because of this bold statement.
Indeed, the only thing i know is that i lost a lot of respect for them. You want to pursue something creatively? Ok, but stick to it...
ReplyDeleteI was kind of excited to see the epsiodes because it was a bold move and with all the hate the character gets, i tought they might had a big plan, out-of-the-box, to make her rise as Black Canary. You don't promote your weakest link if you don't have a good plan.
Now i'm not sure... Now i think they didn't get the response they wanted: they tought if she became BC all the inconsistences the character did for the past 2 years would be forgiven.
It seems people didn't react that way but the other way around and now they are doing damage control.
To be honest, it's not fair to Katie Cassidy. The girl kills herself on the gym to be ready for the part and the producers are telling us they don't trust her(or what they make for her). I loved her on Supernatural and i followed her to Gossip Girl... Idk how she remains on Arrow after all the crap, if i were her i would have been long gone by now.
I am not a KC fan and I don't like her acting at all but I thought she delivered her best performance in this season. And it's clear she is a hard worker she slaved in the gym and built herself up this season (more than Gal Gadot for Wonder Woman) and last season if the interviews are to be believed she starved to look like a drug addict.
ReplyDeleteAnd one thing I don't understand is why they give too much importance to their online fans. Most of the loyal fans of Arrow might not even come online and also even if these 3 episodes are Laurel centric most of the people will tune in because general population does not drastically change their TV viewing habits. It's always a process. One character's journey does not influence general viewing of a show.
Idiots... They lost the minimum respect I had for them by this stunt..