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TVD - I'm hoping. I want it to end this year, which is highly unlikely.
Don't get me wrong, i like of of those four shows. TVD has gotten really boring. Both Reign and The Originals are in their 2nd seasons, so giving them a third season would mean a fourth season as well (syndication) Dixie is 99% confirmed.
Beauty and The Beast, Hart of Dixie, Jane The Virgin. And it might cancel : The 100 and Reign ( I hope not, there are my favorite on this network ) And please, give The Messengers a chance.
I think one of the new shows between iZombie and The Messengers might be cancelled - although I hope not ... they look good so far. Jane the Virgin may def get cancelled, a pity really, it's enjoyable. BatB might finally get cancelled, but I'm not sure and it seems as though it is the final season for Hart of Dixie ... Other than that it's a toss up between Reign and The 100 ... and I hope The 100 makes it through.
I'm starting to think that CW should start bidding goodbye to the vampire shows ... as much as I've been a fan of both The Vampire Diaries and The Originals - one has to admit that they are getting tiresome and newer shows are far more interesting and deserving of the slots!
Since I'm still shaking my head at their BaTB renewal from last season, I don't trust them to do the right thing. So I'll say the shows that SHOULD be canceled are: BaTB and HoD. The rest depends on mid-season performances.
Beauty and The Beast love the show but having been good in rating Hart of Dixie same reason Supernatural because to me been on too long Vampire Diaries because to me lost it's appeal doesn't have it's wow moments like that anymore and because I hate that Bonnie always put everyone first before her own needs
I believe Jane The Virgin and The Flash will survive because they are breath of fresh air others new two shows I have to see before I know which one will get cancel
Jane, HoD, iZombie, and then whichever out of The 100/The Messengers is doing worse, probably The 100. Reign and BATB get saved bc of syndication. Everything else is doing ok for the CW and gets renewed.
Not Reign, please. The previous episode was one of the best so far. I want the show to continue. BATB, Hart of Dixie, IZombie, Jane the Virgin, and I'm not even sure about The Messengers.
The problem with CW is that it is the only network where ratings are not the only reason to cancel a show. Mr Pedowitz explained that BatB got renewed because of the online streaming and hughe social network activity. So is this gonna change this year ! I don't see them cancel Jane because they finally have a highly critical acclaimed show -even if the ratings are 0 4- they are so proud to get rid of the "teeny scifi show network with handsome actors but bad acting" image. But I guess HoD will get cancelled as some actors already moved on to other projects and tweeted their goodbyes.
Oh so sorry. I thought "The 100" was included in the "get saved because of syndication" my bad.. I should've read your comment twice before writing anything! Now that I've understood your comment ; yes, I agree with you on that. + The 100 is expensive so...
Hopefully Beaut and The Beast. But i think Regin and Hart of Dixie can fall before that.
I hope iZbombie ends up being good and if so good in the ratings. The Flash will stick for sure. Jane the Virigin is a good show, and deservere as spot.
Hart of Dixie, The Messengers, The 100, and Jane the Virgin. Everything is pointing to Hart of Dixie being done. The Messengers is a mess (I've read the script and a friend of mine has seen the pilot) that I can't see a mass audience going for. The 100 is low man on the WB totem pole, so it's gone bar horrible development or iZombie being DOA. Jane the Virgin is at a 0.4 less than 10 episodes into its run, meaning that it should drop to un-renewable numbers between now and spring. I think BATB has such an advantageous financial arrangement (and international presence) that it'll be saved, especially since The CW made a big stink about renewing it for season three. I picked iZombie as the midseason show that they'll renew due to Rob Thomas + likely getting a good time slot come January. Reign is the CBS show with the most banked episodes, so it'll get a renewal; I could see season three being shortened, though.
Beauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Reign, Jane the Virgin and iZombie. Maybe it's more wishful thinking though. I hope The 100 is renewed, but I'm still optimistic about its future. It might rise to a 0.6 in a couple of weeks. I'll be so extremely pissed if we get another TTP/BatB situation this year.
There is also a possibility that The Vampire Diaries will be canceled (or announced as a final season), because it seems one of the three leads doesn't want to continue. And even though I don't watch the show, I can't see it going on without the core trio.
How long do you see this alleged "advantageous financial arrangement" and international presence "saving" this show? Especially over other shows that are making them money here and now, in the US and Canada? Some getting critical acclaim, some with large fanbases, some with their own international presence, some just very good TV shows etc...
Renewed: Arrow, TVD, SPN (though I wish it would end already..), and The Flash Probably renewed: The Originals On the fence: Reign and The 100. I prefer The 100 to Reign and hope to see The 100 renewed, but The 100 has the better lead-in and I think the CW are taking this into consideration. Also, if the CW decide to renew any CBS show Reign has the highest chances of getting renewed from the CBS productions. Cancelled: B&tB, HoD, Jane Too early to tell because they have yet to be premiered: The Messengers and iZombie.
HOD-it would only need 12 more episodes to get it to 88 yes it can be syndicated with less but there is no reason to assume that it wont be renewed for a final short season esp since this coming season is not being marketed as the last and the cast and crew have given no indication that it wont be back. 60%
Beauty and the Beast-no clue, it will still be a season and a half of the magical 88 with the worst ratings on network tv but talk of international deals and the fact that its renewal this time round made no sense makes me unsure what will happen. 30%
SPN-ratings still warrant renewal even if quality doesn't. Cast are still up for it so I dont see this one being cancelled this season but the jury is still out as to whether season 11 will be announced as the last. I guess it comes down to Jared and Jensen. 100%
TVD-this wont be the last season, its still one of the nets top earners even with its ratings decline. Again whether next season will be the last comes down to the 3 main cast members. 100%
TO-the ratings decline should be something to worry about but its hard to say whether thats down to the show or the day it airs. At the end of the season it will have 44 episodes, half way to syndication with ok ratings. I see this one going for a full 4 seasons. 100%
The Flash-100% chance of renewal
Arrow-could drop drastically between now and the end of the season and still be renewed for a 4th season. I see this one around for a long time yet 100%
Reign-ratings arent great but its on a par with T100 which has fewer episodes and this is a CBS production which gives it a huge advantage over the other shows with similar ratings. At the moment I'm giving it a 70% chance of renewal
T100-ratings not great, fewer episodes than Reign at the end of season 2 but has proved it can do well late spring/summer. Could depend on how the 2 mid season shows do. My personal view is that they should renew it and air it late spring/summer like season 1. At the moment I'd give it a 50% chance of renewal
JTV-ratings dont warrant a renewal, unless its bringing in masses of previously untapped latino viewers for the CW then I dont see this one being renewed at all. 20% chance of renewal.
The Messengers and iZombie-if these two are even half decent shows than a bit of decent scheduling could see one or both coming back. At the moment I'd give both a 50% chance of renewal.
Am I the only one who really misses the @CancellationBear account? There was much hilarity in the threads whenever cancellations happened or were predicted to happen.
Reign will only have 44 episodes, 44 episodes away from syndication. Also it's heavily serialized, barely got a shot at syndication at that. (TVD still hasn't found a syndication partner because of the same issue). BatB looks better with 56 episodes then but still a LONG shot
not a huge fan of the show myself (moderate fits better) but considering that show for cancelation is pretty odd. I don't think that it will last 7 or 6 years (for that the drops are too huge lately, it's actually close to CW average soon) but it's the only show I'm 100% sure could pull a 2 season renewal on theCW
Not true.Nikta will be syndicated on Pivot in Jan.Several shows have been syndicated with less than 88 episodes-Reaper,Veronica Mars,Til Death,Flashpoint,Leverage,The Unit to name a few.
Hart of Dixie, Jane the Virgin and either The Messengers or iZombie, whichever fails the most. BatB and Reign depend on how many CBS-owned pilots are picked up.
or renewed (Messengers and JtV are CBS owned property). I do think that theCW will heavily pilot CBS owned programs this pilot season though, as much as I hate to say it but they're heavily working to keep CBS satisfyed, Warner really doesen't want to let go of the joint venture
I'm gonna say HoD,BatB,Jane,The 100& one or both of the Midseason shows.This will leave enough room on the schedule for four to five new shows as usual and they'll cancel the usual four to five shows.
Not unlikely though, CBS could still have a huge pile of pilots. IMO I don't see another season of BatB and Reign. The one is falling while the other is just a way too pricey investment (also for CBS, I'd actually say that CBS pulls the plug on that show before theCW can)
Certainly leaving: BatB and HoD, both were given limited episode renewals wich points heavily to a final season treatment for both.
Not sure about being canned but likely: Jane the Virgin and Reign. Both perform equally bad, with one being new but in a terrible timeslot and the other being sophomore but in a solid timeslot. Also The 100, a critical darling but incredibly weak given the lead in, not lead in dependant and performing badly? Not a good combo at all. Arrow and 100 should benefit each other, they don't though
Not sure about the axe but likely to return: The Originals, on the one hand it's dropping. On the other it's cheap to produce due to being produced right next to TVD and being able to draw crewmembers and sets from there and the expectations for that timeslot were low to begin with
Sure about being renewed: Arrow, SPN, Flash, TVD
not going to comment about iZombie or Messengers, I don't think that Rob Thomas producing iZombie is benefiting it though. Veronica Mars had quite the popularity hype this year, theCW probably wants him back for a VM project
CBS pilots have notoriously failed which is why I don't see them putting all their eggs in one basket. BatB getting renewed last season makes me iffy on predicting its demise when they clearly use it as schedule spackle. It cuts down on reruns and is placed only in trouble spots so I could see it being renewed for short seasons for a couple more years, even if it does make the network a laughing stock.
Reign depends on history and what backend they think they can get for it. My guess is that they are getting a pretty penny for it on Netflix and there may be more behind the scene deals. However the strongest factor in Reign's favor is that the CW simply does not cancel sophomore shows as a general rule. They did cancel Carrie Diaries after 2 seasons but both were short and ended up having only 26 episodes altogether, so basically 1 season. Before that only Life Unexplained (again only 26 episodes) and Reaper (31 episodes) were cancelled in season 2. Reign would be the first scripted show in the network's history to be cancelled after 2 full seasons. I just do not see that happening.
It is hart to choose from shows which have not aired yet. I would like to see renewed Arrow, The 100, TVD and The Originals, all the other shows I don't care about, but SN and The Flash will be renewed - that is for sure.
If The Messengers is a winner, then all bets are off but if it is a middling to woeful player then I think both Reign and BatB are safe. Reign for sure. Jane the Virgin is the most likely to be tossed at this point.
BatB - more like because it's schedule spackle and CBS owned but neither of those things change for next year either.
I am surprised that Jane the Virgin is still getting good reviews. I'm not sure how much that will factor into scheduling though since it is somewhat unprecedented on the CW. The last time a low rated show got good overall reviews that I can remember was Life Unexpected.
I also would like to see The 100 renewed, I think it depends on how the new shows are doing, and what the CW's plans are for Wednesdays. The 100 is an awesome show but hard to combine with any other CW show. It will die on a Friday or Monday, the only other pairing other than Arrow could be SN but I don't think they move The Flash from Tuesday.
The CW has never cancelled a show with 2 full seasons and I don't expect them to start now. I don't watch Reign or BATB so IDC one way or the other, but my bet is they both get renewed.
No, no. I seem to remember reading a post saying that he/she/it had been banned because of complaints made against him/her/it. I was quite surprised and a but sad. That account was hilarious.
No one but the brass at the CW can answer this question but my guess is the answer is it is not more profitable in itself, at least not in the usual fan argument way. It is however schedule spackle with a decent number of episodes which automatically makes it more profitable on Netflix given the nature of their contract. The more episodes a show has, the more Netflix pays. Mostly though, it is a CBS produced show in a landscape of WB "hits" and I think that gives it the additional boost it needs. It may be the first CBS-produced show on the WB to hit an acceptable amount of syndication episodes. For the record, I think Reign will join it in that as well. When your company is a merge between 2 different media giants, both have to be given as much room to create money as possible to keep the relationship afloat.
they could have given it a full season if Rachel Bilson wasnt pregnant and wanting to spend time with her baby after it was born instead of working. A full season would have meant shutting down production to accommodate her and that costs money.
Good question. iZombie has Rob Thomas who is riding the Veronica Mars high right now and I've heard mixed things about The Messengers. My guess is iZombie takes the coveted position.
Either Reign OR BatB are safe, both are Take5 co-productions, at least one of these will have to go. CBS doesen't take as much from these productions as they do from CBS Television only productions (only WB takes a small percentage of these shows as well and vice versa for WB Television productions). Can't see both being renewed and a pure CBS product being let go.
I agree. I see both Reign and BatB saved way more than both being cancelled. I was being unclear. If The Messengers is a hit than one or the other could go. If it is not, then I think both will be spared.
no clue if it is actually bringing in those new viewers but if it eeks out a surprise renewal with those poor ratings I think we'll be able to assume why?
Both are certainly not in the cards, CBS probably still profits more from JtV, Messengers or whatever than from Reign/BatB. They have to share quite a cut with Take5. One lives, one falls. As easy as that
Sorry, misunderstood again. Let me seek to clarify. You think Jane the Virgin or The Messengers will replace either Reign or BatB because the later are co-produced with Take 5. Is that right? If so, I disagree because Take 5 also absorbs much of the cost of producing those two. I think Take 5 is actually a plus in Reign's case at least. My guess is the amount put in and the amount taken out by Take 5 balances each other.
Take 5 will certainly NOT opperate at a loss Dahne, this studio is pretty big these days and if anything will only demand to take more out of what they make from both shows.
I really don't think HoD would've gotten a full season even if Rachel wasn't pregnant, it's ratings we're too low just like Nikita's though HoD is cheap & Nikita was exspensive
the issue is that Take5 opperates at other budgetary standards, standards CBS certainly has not in plan for Reign. And standards that can't be financed for a show with Reigns ratings. Budget is everything
I find it very hard to believe that Take 5 is a bigger company than CBS, especially since half of their shows are currently off the air. Penny Dreadful and Vikings are the only ones that even have good word of mouth and neither of those are ratings giants either. Yes, they might be an up and coming production company, but they aren't going to push CBS at this point. Now if they back out of either show, increasing the cost to CBS then it might effect these shows. Otherwise, no way.
The hate for bath is hilarious here. Its does extremely well online AND is one of the more popular shows internationally. Its already been stated cw doesn't just look at viewership.
I agree with that but I also agree with Toni. 90210 Wasnt kept on with similar ratings despite being CBzs and BatB being finically profitable overseas,BaTB sold for three seasons and that will dine with its upcoming season and good international sales can and will save a show only so long when it's still aways from syndication and not making much ad rvune with 0.2-0.3 demo, no critical acclaim ect..90210 was CzbS and has enough episodes for syndication
I think Jane, Izombie, Messengers and Hart of Dixie will be canceled. Maybe the 100 depending on how things go. I can't see Reign or BATB canceled just yet. There's just too many unknowns when it comes to those CBS-Canadian co-productions.
It depends on how much the CW is willing to pay them for it. By partnering with CBS there is going to be plenty of behind the scenes dealings, none of which we get to see sadly. I agree that the CW operates on a much different playing field when it comes to renewals and ratings. That's what makes it so much fun to produce. However, I do not see the CW letting Reign go if they can at all help it. It could very well get a shortened season but I am betting it gets a season 3 all the same. Both Reign and BatB make more for the CW on the Netflix deal, which I believe is the only thing keeping the network afloat, than either Jane the Virgin or The Messengers will.
Yes, which doesn't contradict anything I've said. If The Messengers does really well, it won't matter how many episodes it has. If it doesn't then, Reign and BatB have the advantage. Either way, one if not both will likely return.
Enough with the negativy people, you don't know what you are doing by saying cancel that show cancel that other one- You are hurting fandoms all over the world. We all have our fandoms that are unique and powerful when they work together but most of all we like different thinks Don't hate other shows and praise or hope or wish for them to get cancelled because they might only because YOU don't like it, well then I'll do the same for the show you like....please!! . Let's be a little bit more mature than that and stop trashing other shows. In the past we all had one of our favourite show cancelled EVERYONE and if you haven't well you don't know how lucky you are. but remember that FEELING when your show was never going to be on TV again and it's worst when they leave us with cliffhangers. To each their own.
What I think will be cancelled and what I want to be cancelled are often 2 totally separate things. I am not bashing anyone by thinking that a show will be cancelled. TV is a business and as such can be analyzed as one. That's nothing personal to any show nor does it suggest anything about the quality of a show or its fans. If people in fandoms are hurt by the realization that their show might end, then it is best that they not participate in a logical discussion of TV business. All TV shows end and discussing the prospects of this is not an attack on anyone. I have seen very little "trashing" of shows on this thread so far and more of an intelligent discussion on why shows get cancelled.
I think that Hart of Dixie, The 100, and The Messengers will be canceled along with either Jane the Virgin or iZombie. I think Beauty and the Beast and Reign survive because they are closest to syndication. At the end of the season Beauty and the Beast will have 57 episodes and Reign will have 44 episodes.
Hart of Dixie will have 76 episodes at the end of the season, and that's already enough for a short syndication deal. Nikita was syndicated at 73 episodes.
No one is hating on BatB.Also it's not hating to say from a ratings standpoint that BatB with very very low ratings might be cancelled.Yes mits profitable but last season CW didn't have two soohmore shows halfway to syndication and a true hit show(this seasons TO,Reign & Flash,which put BatB in a tighter spot this season than last.All shows end sometime and BatB will have finished its "sold for three seasons internationally" commitment .CW has to cancel some shows and BatB,HoD will be the lowest rated besides Jane,Reign .I say this as a fan of the show.But no critical acclaim,low US ratings/ad revunue ect don't help it's case and if it wins a PCA again that won't be a consideration.
Renewed: Arrow, Supernatural, The Flash, The Originals. The Vampire Diaries, The 100, and Jane the Virgin Now Summer Shows: Beauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Reign, and The Messengers Cancelled: iZombie
Czw has a rich multi year muti million doaakr deal with Hulu & Netflxso shows that do well make Czw money and CW said last season they care very much about online,DVr,onDemand viewing because they target a younger audience more Likley to watch those ways.
CW dosent scripted during summer except burnoff or very very cheap shows(Candian shows or CW Seed shows) which leaves out Messengers.BatB was only moved to summer due to overfill schedule & no room during the regular season.Summer means lower ad revunue,lower ratings,lower international liscenseing fees.
VD,SPN,Arrow,Flash renewed,VD for a final season TO:renewed -it has book,DVD sales,is halfway to syndication,it's the fifth highest rated show and I doubt CW gave it a web series and books just to cancel it.With VD Likley ending next season,I think they'll keep the spinoff around, Reign :renewed-halfway to syndication,CBS and book,DVD sales.
I agree one Reign,BatB,Jane gets renewd and Reign,BatB are closer to syndication and didn't do as badly so early in thier first season as Jane is so one if Reign,BatB gets Renewdd and they pick up a couple CBS pilots.Though Messengers has to be considere but CW hasn't had good luch with Midseason shows,
They have Arrow, the Flash, both of which are obviously CW's prized possessions, and are developing a new superhero show. And I meant for the future. Back then after Twilight it was all about vampires. Now with DC and Marvel's line-up and all of these shows coming out based around both universes, it's obvious the future is gonna be jam-packed with superhero shows. They work well for CW (see: Flash breaking all-time records) and it's their way forward.
I definitely think Supernatural will run to twelve seasons. I have a feeling that Carver is trying to map out his five season arc as Eric Kripke did. And just like Kripke, Carver only had three seasons plan which has obviously been expanded since Carver doesn't see S10 being the last season.
Gamble's run was obviously the true intermission between Kripke's years and Carver's years.
pedowitz has said more than once there's getting to be too much genre shows on the network and they would move back to family programming, and that the "network must avoid slipping down an entirely genre rabbit hole" ( his actual quote from an interview last month,
Well, I think we can say for sure that all The 100's 16 episodes will all air on Wednesdays this year. The CW can wait until March to debut a new show in this timeslot, and from then, I suppose it depends on what that new show (either The Messengers or iZombie) would do in this timeslot vs. The 100. As for Tuesdays, they will move SPN before they move The Flash.. there will likely be a new show in the timeslot of Tuesdays at 9PM next year.
BaTB, IZombie, Reign, JTV, HoD.. tho i enjoy both JTV and Reign i would love to see one of those saved maybe they pull a BaTB on any of those two shows lol... I dunno but i dont IZombie doing much...
If they have a formula that works then they'll continue with shows of that formula. I'm not saying CW will have more than 3 superhero shows, or even 2, but they never had more than 2 vampire shows anyway when the genre was in its prime. My point was that superhero shows are quickly taking over similarly to the vampire boom back then.
Flash already is a 'super-hit' to CW considering it broke records. Just because it's not performing on the standard of all the great networks doesn't mean it isn't doing the CW wonders. Look at all of CW's other new shows. Look at the shows even in their second season. Like I said above, superhero craze is happening just like vampires did back then with all the new shows across the various networks. My original comment wasn't just restricted to CW, just a general statement. Good luck to anyone who feels like coming up with a new vampire show.
I agree that vampires are getting out of fashion and superheroes are hot right now. I am comparing hit with hit, Flash with TVD (not even in its best years, but last year). Flash has to prove itself yet to be pronounced a super-hit. Yes, it has broke some records on entry which is nice for CW PR but means nothing if it wont be able to keep up with an expectations . It has a long run ahead .
Yes to BatB, yes to HoD (their star is leaving...the writing is on the wall), yes to Reign. JtV, I hope not. The critical acclaim it's received + the people's choice nom may & hopefully help it's chances, but it's definitely in danger.
The Bethel and Porter of HOD did say goodbye on Twitter (and it caused a ruckus). They dialed back, but apparently they wrapped up the story in a good place to call an ending. So I won't say the "Cast and crew have given no indication it won't be back."
I think HoD and BATB are the most likely gone--shortened seasons, moved timeslots, bad ratings, and at least HoD is probably creatively done. Reign and the 100 seem to be struggling, but I think it's going to come down to how the iZombie and the Messengers do. Midseason shows have such a hard time finding an audience, so I don't have high hopes, but who can say without having seen them at all. I think one of them and Jane are done for.
BATB will have 57 episodes at the end of its current season which makes it the closest CBS distributed CW show to syndication. While 88 is preferred, another 13 could be enough to try selling it. Nikita was sold with 73 episodes so they may try BATB with 70.
I hope they don't but I wouldn't completely rule it out.
It's just that both Arrow and The Flash are fresher shows in respect of their content and story telling - I'm just finding the conflicts within stories on TVD, TO and the SPN to be the same ... just presented in a new way - there are just so many seasons of the same thing that anyone can watch!
Haven't Beauty and the Beast and Hart of Dixie been announced as in their final season. (My memory is spotty though...) iZombie. I know nothing about The Messengers.
I just started watching Reign and really really like it so I hope it won't get cancelled XD I really really love Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries, but like some other stated already, I feel like they should make way for some new shows ... or make way for some newer shows to finish a bigger story arch. (I would miss Stefan and Caroline, though ... not as a couple, but just the characters themselves.) I never got into The 100, Heart of Dixie and Beauty and the Beast, so that's who I voted for... even though I know that The 100 has a slight chance of survival. I didn't want to vote for any of the shows that haven't aired yet, because I won't just judge from preview posts or short clips, though I have to say The Messengers looked pretty good so far and I'm hoping the show meets my expectations.
Normally I would vote on a poll for this site but I don't vote for polls that encourages negativity from fans of other shows poo pooing other fans shows. That's not the way I was raised and it's a sad reflection on our society when we trample the underdog instead of cheering it on. VERY SAD and I WON'T participate in negative polls such as this one
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Beauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, iZombie, Jane the Virgin, Reign
ReplyDeleteI think and hope for Beauty and the Beast, then I think Hart of Dixie and Jane the Virgin. I don´t want them to cancel anything else :D
ReplyDeleteFor my poor heart, take The 100 out of this list.
ReplyDeleteDixie for sure.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Reign and The Originals.
TVD - I'm hoping. I want it to end this year, which is highly unlikely.
Don't get me wrong, i like of of those four shows. TVD has gotten really boring. Both Reign and The Originals are in their 2nd seasons, so giving them a third season would mean a fourth season as well (syndication)
Dixie is 99% confirmed.
BATB, JTV, iZombie & HOD.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't mind BatB getting cancelled
ReplyDeleteI would like to say BatB but after last year, I just can't pick it anymore...
ReplyDeleteJane the Virgin, Hart of Dixie, IZombie I think will get cancelled Reign and Beauty and the Beast might as well.
ReplyDeleteI didnt answer truthfully, because I'm in denial that the 100 has a chance of getting cancelled.
ReplyDeleteBeauty and The Beast, Hart of Dixie, Jane The Virgin.
ReplyDeleteAnd it might cancel : The 100 and Reign ( I hope not, there are my favorite on this network )
And please, give The Messengers a chance.
I think one of the new shows between iZombie and The Messengers might be cancelled - although I hope not ... they look good so far.
ReplyDeleteJane the Virgin may def get cancelled, a pity really, it's enjoyable.
BatB might finally get cancelled, but I'm not sure and it seems as though it is the final season for Hart of Dixie ...
Other than that it's a toss up between Reign and The 100 ... and I hope The 100 makes it through.
I'm starting to think that CW should start bidding goodbye to the vampire shows ... as much as I've been a fan of both The Vampire Diaries and The Originals - one has to admit that they are getting tiresome and newer shows are far more interesting and deserving of the slots!
Reign, BATB, JtV, HoD (should just announce season 4 as final season) and either one of the 2 new midseason shows.
ReplyDeleteOh, and I had a dream last night that CW renewed Supernatural for 12th and final season.
I think they will cancel 4 shows again, so :
ReplyDeleteBatB + HoD + JtV
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The Messengers/iZombie/The 100/Reign
Beauty and the Beast & Hart of Dixie (I wish)
ReplyDeleteBATB, HOD, The 100, Reign or iZombie
ReplyDeleteI think they will cancel at least 3 shows among BATB, HOD, Reign, Jane The Virgin, The 100.
ReplyDeleteSince I'm still shaking my head at their BaTB renewal from last season, I don't trust them to do the right thing. So I'll say the shows that SHOULD be canceled are: BaTB and HoD. The rest depends on mid-season performances.
ReplyDeleteBeauty and The Beast love the show but having been good in rating
ReplyDeleteHart of Dixie same reason
Supernatural because to me been on too long
Vampire Diaries because to me lost it's appeal doesn't have it's wow moments like that anymore and because I hate that Bonnie always put everyone first before her own needs
I believe Jane The Virgin and The Flash will survive because they are breath of fresh air others new two shows I have to see before I know which one will get cancel
Jane, HoD, iZombie, and then whichever out of The 100/The Messengers is doing worse, probably The 100. Reign and BATB get saved bc of syndication. Everything else is doing ok for the CW and gets renewed.
ReplyDeleteThe 100 will have 29 episodes by the end of its second season so I don't think they'll renew it because of syndication. If it gets renewed.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I'm confused. I don't think they'll renew The 100 either, I'm saying I think it'll probably be cancelled. Or were you agreeing with me?
ReplyDeleteBaTB, Hart of Dixie, Jane the Virgin, Reign, The 100
ReplyDeleteNot Reign, please. The previous episode was one of the best so far. I want the show to continue.
ReplyDeleteBATB, Hart of Dixie, IZombie, Jane the Virgin, and I'm not even sure about The Messengers.
The problem with CW is that it is the only network where ratings are not the only reason to cancel a show. Mr Pedowitz explained that BatB got renewed because of the online streaming and hughe social network activity. So is this gonna change this year ! I don't see them cancel Jane because they finally have a highly critical acclaimed show -even if the ratings are 0 4- they are so proud to get rid of the "teeny scifi show network with handsome actors but bad acting" image. But I guess HoD will get cancelled as some actors already moved on to other projects and tweeted their goodbyes.
ReplyDeleteOh so sorry. I thought "The 100" was included in the "get saved because of syndication" my bad.. I should've read your comment twice before writing anything!
ReplyDeleteNow that I've understood your comment ; yes, I agree with you on that. + The 100 is expensive so...
I'm not so silently judging those 10 who voted for The Flash.
ReplyDeleteExactly my guesses. Or it might be more wishful thinking.
ReplyDeleteHopefully Beaut and The Beast. But i think Regin and Hart of Dixie can fall before that.
ReplyDeleteI hope iZbombie ends up being good and if so good in the ratings. The Flash will stick for sure. Jane the Virigin is a good show, and deservere as spot.
Superheroes are definitely taking over vampires.
ReplyDeleteHart of Dixie, The Messengers, The 100, and Jane the Virgin.
ReplyDeleteEverything is pointing to Hart of Dixie being done. The Messengers is a mess (I've read the script and a friend of mine has seen the pilot) that I can't see a mass audience going for. The 100 is low man on the WB totem pole, so it's gone bar horrible development or iZombie being DOA. Jane the Virgin is at a 0.4 less than 10 episodes into its run, meaning that it should drop to un-renewable numbers between now and spring.
I think BATB has such an advantageous financial arrangement (and international presence) that it'll be saved, especially since The CW made a big stink about renewing it for season three. I picked iZombie as the midseason show that they'll renew due to Rob Thomas + likely getting a good time slot come January. Reign is the CBS show with the most banked episodes, so it'll get a renewal; I could see season three being shortened, though.
It's up to 12 now!
ReplyDeletehmmm and let heads roll.
ReplyDeleteRealistic: HoD, JtV, Reign, The100, Reign and most likely BatB( but this bitch is hard to kill)
My wish: HoD, JtV and BatB
Beauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Reign, Jane the Virgin and iZombie. Maybe it's more wishful thinking though. I hope The 100 is renewed, but I'm still optimistic about its future. It might rise to a 0.6 in a couple of weeks. I'll be so extremely pissed if we get another TTP/BatB situation this year.
ReplyDeleteThere is also a possibility that The Vampire Diaries will be canceled (or announced as a final season), because it seems one of the three leads doesn't want to continue. And even though I don't watch the show, I can't see it going on without the core trio.
No problem :)
ReplyDeleteWait Reign really is part of CBS? Then why is it airing on The CW?
ReplyDeletebecause CW is a joint venture between CBS and WB.
ReplyDeleteHow long do you see this alleged "advantageous financial arrangement" and international presence "saving" this show? Especially over other shows that are making them money here and now, in the US and Canada? Some getting critical acclaim, some with large fanbases, some with their own international presence, some just very good TV shows etc...
ReplyDeleteI think Beauty and The Beast, Reign, Jane the Virgin and iZombie.
ReplyDeleteRenewed: Arrow, TVD, SPN (though I wish it would end already..), and The Flash
ReplyDeleteProbably renewed: The Originals
On the fence: Reign and The 100. I prefer The 100 to Reign and hope to see The 100 renewed, but The 100 has the better lead-in and I think the CW are taking this into consideration. Also, if the CW
decide to renew any CBS show Reign has the highest chances of getting renewed from the CBS productions.
Cancelled: B&tB, HoD, Jane
Too early to tell because they have yet to be premiered: The Messengers and iZombie.
Super hard to say with the CW
ReplyDeleteHOD-it would only need 12 more episodes to get it to 88 yes it can be syndicated with less but there is no reason to assume that it wont be renewed for a final short season esp since this coming season is not being marketed as the last and the cast and crew have given no indication that it wont be back. 60%
Beauty and the Beast-no clue, it will still be a season and a half of the magical 88 with the worst ratings on network tv but talk of international deals and the fact that its renewal this time round made no sense makes me unsure what will happen. 30%
SPN-ratings still warrant renewal even if quality doesn't. Cast are still up for it so I dont see this one being cancelled this season but the jury is still out as to whether season 11 will be announced as the last. I guess it comes down to Jared and Jensen. 100%
TVD-this wont be the last season, its still one of the nets top earners even with its ratings decline. Again whether next season will be the last comes down to the 3 main cast members. 100%
TO-the ratings decline should be something to worry about but its hard to say whether thats down to the show or the day it airs. At the end of the season it will have 44 episodes, half way to syndication with ok ratings. I see this one going for a full 4 seasons. 100%
The Flash-100% chance of renewal
Arrow-could drop drastically between now and the end of the season and still be renewed for a 4th season. I see this one around for a long time yet 100%
Reign-ratings arent great but its on a par with T100 which has fewer episodes and this is a CBS production which gives it a huge advantage over the other shows with similar ratings. At the moment I'm giving it a 70% chance of renewal
T100-ratings not great, fewer episodes than Reign at the end of season 2 but has proved it can do well late spring/summer. Could depend on how the 2 mid season shows do. My personal view is that they should renew it and air it late spring/summer like season 1. At the moment I'd give it a 50% chance of renewal
JTV-ratings dont warrant a renewal, unless its bringing in masses of previously untapped latino viewers for the CW then I dont see this one being renewed at all. 20% chance of renewal.
The Messengers and iZombie-if these two are even half decent shows than a bit of decent scheduling could see one or both coming back. At the moment I'd give both a 50% chance of renewal.
If they were gonna get HoD to syndication they'd have given it a full season this year.
ReplyDeleteBeauty first, then HoD, Reign, I am enjoying Jane and never thought I would say that, but it is funny.
ReplyDeleteI'd pay money for The Originals to get cancelled. That show is the worst on the network.
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna pray for Reign. It's getting better.
I would like to meet those 15 people who voted for The Flash or those 11 people who voted for Arrow lmao.
ReplyDeleteMaybe they thought this poll was for which show is getting renewed instead of cancelled, lol.
ReplyDeleteI m betting my money on JTV and most likely hod. Batb hasn't aired yet so I m not sure what they r doing.
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one who really misses the @CancellationBear account? There was much hilarity in the threads whenever cancellations happened or were predicted to happen.
ReplyDeleteYou may have had a prohetical dream :P
ReplyDeleteReign will only have 44 episodes, 44 episodes away from syndication. Also it's heavily serialized, barely got a shot at syndication at that. (TVD still hasn't found a syndication partner because of the same issue).
ReplyDeleteBatB looks better with 56 episodes then but still a LONG shot
not a huge fan of the show myself (moderate fits better) but considering that show for cancelation is pretty odd. I don't think that it will last 7 or 6 years (for that the drops are too huge lately, it's actually close to CW average soon) but it's the only show I'm 100% sure could pull a 2 season renewal on theCW
ReplyDeleteNot true.Nikta will be syndicated on Pivot in Jan.Several shows have been syndicated with less than 88 episodes-Reaper,Veronica Mars,Til Death,Flashpoint,Leverage,The Unit to name a few.
ReplyDeleteI think Hart of Dixie... If The 100 gets cancelled I'm going to be so sad!
ReplyDeleteHart of Dixie, Jane the Virgin and either The Messengers or iZombie, whichever fails the most. BatB and Reign depend on how many CBS-owned pilots are picked up.
ReplyDeleteI would say the same only reversed, Reign is the worst while Originals is getting better
ReplyDeleteIf it gets syndicated after this 13 ep season (I don't follow HoD so don't know if this is the case) then there is still no point renewing it further.
ReplyDeleteYou should look up the "Unrealistic Expectations" club down the hall right next to "Macs pessimistic corner"
ReplyDeleteI think he only shows up when actual cancellations are made :(
ReplyDeleteThat is all 3 of the CBS show. Not going to happen unless CBS pulls out of the deal altogether, which would be a contract violation I believe.
ReplyDeleteor renewed (Messengers and JtV are CBS owned property). I do think that theCW will heavily pilot CBS owned programs this pilot season though, as much as I hate to say it but they're heavily working to keep CBS satisfyed, Warner really doesen't want to let go of the joint venture
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna say HoD,BatB,Jane,The 100& one or both of the Midseason shows.This will leave enough room on the schedule for four to five new shows as usual and they'll cancel the usual four to five shows.
ReplyDeleteCould they not just bring 3 more CBS shows through?
ReplyDeleteNot unlikely though, CBS could still have a huge pile of pilots. IMO I don't see another season of BatB and Reign. The one is falling while the other is just a way too pricey investment (also for CBS, I'd actually say that CBS pulls the plug on that show before theCW can)
ReplyDeleteI don't think they would risk it. I'd say at least one stays and they pick up 2 new ones.
ReplyDeleteCertainly leaving: BatB and HoD, both were given limited episode renewals wich points heavily to a final season treatment for both.
ReplyDeleteNot sure about being canned but likely: Jane the Virgin and Reign. Both perform equally bad, with one being new but in a terrible timeslot and the other being sophomore but in a solid timeslot. Also The 100, a critical darling but incredibly weak given the lead in, not lead in dependant and performing badly? Not a good combo at all. Arrow and 100 should benefit each other, they don't though
Not sure about the axe but likely to return: The Originals, on the one hand it's dropping. On the other it's cheap to produce due to being produced right next to TVD and being able to draw crewmembers and sets from there and the expectations for that timeslot were low to begin with
Sure about being renewed: Arrow, SPN, Flash, TVD
not going to comment about iZombie or Messengers, I don't think that Rob Thomas producing iZombie is benefiting it though. Veronica Mars had quite the popularity hype this year, theCW probably wants him back for a VM project
In which case, I guess (or at least I hope) Reign or JtV stays.
ReplyDeleteCBS pilots have notoriously failed which is why I don't see them putting all their eggs in one basket. BatB getting renewed last season makes me iffy on predicting its demise when they clearly use it as schedule spackle. It cuts down on reruns and is placed only in trouble spots so I could see it being renewed for short seasons for a couple more years, even if it does make the network a laughing stock.
ReplyDeleteReign depends on history and what backend they think they can get for it. My guess is that they are getting a pretty penny for it on Netflix and there may be more behind the scene deals. However the strongest factor in Reign's favor is that the CW simply does not cancel sophomore shows as a general rule. They did cancel Carrie Diaries after 2 seasons but both were short and ended up having only 26 episodes altogether, so basically 1 season. Before that only Life Unexplained (again only 26 episodes) and Reaper (31 episodes) were cancelled in season 2. Reign would be the first scripted show in the network's history to be cancelled after 2 full seasons. I just do not see that happening.
It is hart to choose from shows which have not aired yet. I would like to see renewed Arrow, The 100, TVD and The Originals, all the other shows I don't care about, but SN and The Flash will be renewed - that is for sure.
ReplyDeleteIf The Messengers is a winner, then all bets are off but if it is a middling to woeful player then I think both Reign and BatB are safe. Reign for sure. Jane the Virgin is the most likely to be tossed at this point.
ReplyDeleteWhat did they cancel last year, the year before that, and the year before that again ?
ReplyDelete( 2013/2014, 2012/2013, and 2011/2012 seasons )
History says no about cancelling Reign. The CW tends to have a 2 and renew policy the way other networks have the syndcation gods save 3 season shows.
ReplyDeleteBatB - more like because it's schedule spackle and CBS owned but neither of those things change for next year either.
ReplyDeleteI am surprised that Jane the Virgin is still getting good reviews. I'm not sure how much that will factor into scheduling though since it is somewhat unprecedented on the CW. The last time a low rated show got good overall reviews that I can remember was Life Unexpected.
I also would like to see The 100 renewed, I think it depends on how the new shows are doing, and what the CW's plans are for Wednesdays. The 100 is an awesome show but hard to combine with any other CW show. It will die on a Friday or Monday, the only other pairing
ReplyDeleteother than Arrow could be SN but I don't think they move The Flash from Tuesday.
As always, these polls are usually more what people wish for instead of what they think will really happen. The Flash is not going anywhere.
ReplyDeleteThe CW has never cancelled a show with 2 full seasons and I don't expect them to start now. I don't watch Reign or BATB so IDC one way or the other, but my bet is they both get renewed.
ReplyDeleteYep, this.
ReplyDeleteNo, no. I seem to remember reading a post saying that he/she/it had been banned because of complaints made against him/her/it. I was quite surprised and a but sad. That account was hilarious.
ReplyDeleteWhich of the new shows will replace the 100 on Wednesday?
ReplyDeleteI'd add the ones who voted SPN and TVD as well, not going to happen people next season maybe but not at the end of this current one.
ReplyDeletejust dont watch the one you dont like instead of wishing it to get cancelled.
ReplyDeleteI'd put money on TO going a full 4 seasons.
No one but the brass at the CW can answer this question but my guess is the answer is it is not more profitable in itself, at least not in the usual fan argument way. It is however schedule spackle with a decent number of episodes which automatically makes it more profitable on Netflix given the nature of their contract. The more episodes a show has, the more Netflix pays. Mostly though, it is a CBS produced show in a landscape of WB "hits" and I think that gives it the additional boost it needs. It may be the first CBS-produced show on the WB to hit an acceptable amount of syndication episodes. For the record, I think Reign will join it in that as well. When your company is a merge between 2 different media giants, both have to be given as much room to create money as possible to keep the relationship afloat.
ReplyDeletethey could have given it a full season if Rachel Bilson wasnt pregnant and wanting to spend time with her baby after it was born instead of working. A full season would have meant shutting down production to accommodate her and that costs money.
ReplyDeleteI also think Jane's renewal depends on if it is bringing in new viewers for the CW.
ReplyDeletethis would require both mid season shows being hits or there will be gaps in next seasons schedule.
ReplyDeleteit both mid seasons shows flop they might renew as schedule spackle?
ReplyDeletebe realistic, the question is which shows will be cancelled not which ones you want to be cancelled.
ReplyDeleteGood question. iZombie has Rob Thomas who is riding the Veronica Mars high right now and I've heard mixed things about The Messengers. My guess is iZombie takes the coveted position.
ReplyDeleteyou forgot T100, its ratings dont warrant a renewal esp considering it only has 29 episodes at the end of this season.
ReplyDelete12/13 - 90210, Emily Owen, Cult, final season of Gossip Girl
ReplyDelete11/12 - The Secret Circle, Ringer, LA Complex, final season of OTH
Nikita also ended in 13/14.
2013/2014 - The Tomorrow People, Star-Crossed, Carrie Diaries, Nikita
ReplyDeleteEither Reign OR BatB are safe, both are Take5 co-productions, at least one of these will have to go. CBS doesen't take as much from these productions as they do from CBS Television only productions (only WB takes a small percentage of these shows as well and vice versa for WB Television productions).
ReplyDeleteCan't see both being renewed and a pure CBS product being let go.
I think they'd pick Reign over T100 it has more episodes
ReplyDeleteI agree. I see both Reign and BatB saved way more than both being cancelled. I was being unclear. If The Messengers is a hit than one or the other could go. If it is not, then I think both will be spared.
ReplyDeleteno clue if it is actually bringing in those new viewers but if it eeks out a surprise renewal with those poor ratings I think we'll be able to assume why?
ReplyDeleteBoth are certainly not in the cards, CBS probably still profits more from JtV, Messengers or whatever than from Reign/BatB. They have to share quite a cut with Take5. One lives, one falls. As easy as that
ReplyDeletethese guys: http://www.take5productions.ca/
ReplyDeletetake a lot of the earnings Reign and BatB make, CBS is not big on sharing
Sorry, misunderstood again. Let me seek to clarify. You think Jane the Virgin or The Messengers will replace either Reign or BatB because the later are co-produced with Take 5. Is that right? If so, I disagree because Take 5 also absorbs much of the cost of producing those two. I think Take 5 is actually a plus in Reign's case at least. My guess is the amount put in and the amount taken out by Take 5 balances each other.
ReplyDeleteTake 5 will certainly NOT opperate at a loss Dahne, this studio is pretty big these days and if anything will only demand to take more out of what they make from both shows.
ReplyDeleteI disagree because having another production company share the costs of producing the show should make up for any backend they take.
ReplyDeleteI really don't think HoD would've gotten a full season even if Rachel wasn't pregnant, it's ratings we're too low just like Nikita's though HoD is cheap & Nikita was exspensive
ReplyDeletethe issue is that Take5 opperates at other budgetary standards, standards CBS certainly has not in plan for Reign. And standards that can't be financed for a show with Reigns ratings. Budget is everything
ReplyDeleteI find it very hard to believe that Take 5 is a bigger company than CBS, especially since half of their shows are currently off the air. Penny Dreadful and Vikings are the only ones that even have good word of mouth and neither of those are ratings giants either. Yes, they might be an up and coming production company, but they aren't going to push CBS at this point. Now if they back out of either show, increasing the cost to CBS then it might effect these shows. Otherwise, no way.
ReplyDeleteThe hate for bath is hilarious here. Its does extremely well online AND is one of the more popular shows internationally. Its already been stated cw doesn't just look at viewership.
ReplyDeleteI agree with that but I also agree with Toni. 90210 Wasnt kept on with similar ratings despite being CBzs and BatB being finically profitable overseas,BaTB sold for three seasons and that will dine with its upcoming season and good international sales can and will save a show only so long when it's still aways from syndication and not making much ad rvune with 0.2-0.3 demo, no critical acclaim ect..90210 was CzbS and has enough episodes for syndication
ReplyDeleteI think Jane, Izombie, Messengers and Hart of Dixie will be canceled. Maybe the 100 depending on how things go.
ReplyDeleteI can't see Reign or BATB canceled just yet. There's just too many unknowns when it comes to those CBS-Canadian co-productions.
CW can't a keep a show like Jane around when it's 0.4. Three/four episodes in its first season ,it's ratings will Likley be 0.2-0.3 in spring
ReplyDeleteIt depends on how much the CW is willing to pay them for it. By partnering with CBS there is going to be plenty of behind the scenes dealings, none of which we get to see sadly. I agree that the CW operates on a much different playing field when it comes to renewals and ratings. That's what makes it so much fun to produce. However, I do not see the CW letting Reign go if they can at all help it. It could very well get a shortened season but I am betting it gets a season 3 all the same. Both Reign and BatB make more for the CW on the Netflix deal, which I believe is the only thing keeping the network afloat, than either Jane the Virgin or The Messengers will.
ReplyDeleteI was about to write a long ass reply about how online figures don't exist and theCW uses them as an excuse. But it would be lost on you anyway
ReplyDeleteBATB, HOD, iZombie, Jane The Virgin and The 100.
ReplyDeleteReign,BatB are closer to syndication than Messengers will be
ReplyDeleteYes, which doesn't contradict anything I've said. If The Messengers does really well, it won't matter how many episodes it has. If it doesn't then, Reign and BatB have the advantage. Either way, one if not both will likely return.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, because it won't be for good critical reviews.
ReplyDeleteEnough with the negativy people, you don't know what you are doing by saying cancel that show cancel that other one- You are hurting fandoms all over the world. We all have our fandoms that are unique and powerful when they work together but most of all we like different thinks Don't hate other shows and praise or hope or wish for them to get cancelled because they might only because YOU don't like it, well then I'll do the same for the show you like....please!! . Let's be a little bit more mature than that and stop trashing other shows. In the past we all had one of our favourite show cancelled EVERYONE and if you haven't well you don't know how lucky you are. but remember that FEELING when your show was never going to be on TV again and it's worst when they leave us with cliffhangers. To each their own.
ReplyDeleteWhat I think will be cancelled and what I want to be cancelled are often 2 totally separate things. I am not bashing anyone by thinking that a show will be cancelled. TV is a business and as such can be analyzed as one. That's nothing personal to any show nor does it suggest anything about the quality of a show or its fans. If people in fandoms are hurt by the realization that their show might end, then it is best that they not participate in a logical discussion of TV business. All TV shows end and discussing the prospects of this is not an attack on anyone. I have seen very little "trashing" of shows on this thread so far and more of an intelligent discussion on why shows get cancelled.
ReplyDeleteI think that Hart of Dixie, The 100, and The Messengers will be canceled along with either Jane the Virgin or iZombie. I think Beauty and the Beast and Reign survive because they are closest to syndication. At the end of the season Beauty and the Beast will have 57 episodes and Reign will have 44 episodes.
ReplyDeleteHoD is closer to syndication than either BatB or Reign yet you they will be renewed cause they're care to syndication,
ReplyDeleteHart of Dixie will have 76 episodes at the end of the season, and that's already enough for a short syndication deal. Nikita was syndicated at 73 episodes.
ReplyDeleteHoD,BatB,JtV,Reign & iZombie.
ReplyDeleteNo one is hating on BatB.Also it's not hating to say from a ratings standpoint that BatB with very very low ratings might be cancelled.Yes mits profitable but last season CW didn't have two soohmore shows halfway to syndication and a true hit show(this seasons TO,Reign & Flash,which put BatB in a tighter spot this season than last.All shows end sometime and BatB will have finished its "sold for three seasons internationally" commitment .CW has to cancel some shows and BatB,HoD will be the lowest rated besides Jane,Reign .I say this as a fan of the show.But no critical acclaim,low US ratings/ad revunue ect don't help it's case and if it wins a PCA again that won't be a consideration.
ReplyDeleteRenewed: Arrow, Supernatural, The Flash, The Originals. The Vampire Diaries, The 100, and Jane the Virgin
ReplyDeleteNow Summer Shows: Beauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Reign, and The Messengers
Cancelled: iZombie
Czw has a rich multi year muti million doaakr deal with Hulu & Netflxso shows that do well make Czw money and CW said last season they care very much about online,DVr,onDemand viewing because they target a younger audience more Likley to watch those ways.
ReplyDeleteI don't even want to think about The 100 getting cancelled :/ Voted for Beauty and the Beast, Reign, and Hart of Dixie.
ReplyDeleteCW dosent scripted during summer except burnoff or very very cheap shows(Candian shows or CW Seed shows) which leaves out Messengers.BatB was only moved to summer due to overfill schedule & no room during the regular season.Summer means lower ad revunue,lower ratings,lower international liscenseing fees.
ReplyDeleteAs long as they keep Originals. This is my addiction
ReplyDeleteVD,SPN,Arrow,Flash renewed,VD for a final season
ReplyDeleteTO:renewed -it has book,DVD sales,is halfway to syndication,it's the fifth highest rated show and I doubt CW gave it a web series and books just to cancel it.With VD Likley ending next season,I think they'll keep the spinoff around,
Reign :renewed-halfway to syndication,CBS and book,DVD sales.
Not if Arrow,Flash,SPN,VD,TO are renewed and CW pick up the usual four to five new shows
ReplyDeleteI agree one Reign,BatB,Jane gets renewd and Reign,BatB are closer to syndication and didn't do as badly so early in thier first season as Jane is so one if Reign,BatB gets Renewdd and they pick up a couple CBS pilots.Though Messengers has to be considere but CW hasn't had good luch with Midseason shows,
ReplyDeleteThey have Arrow, the Flash, both of which are obviously CW's prized possessions, and are developing a new superhero show. And I meant for the future. Back then after Twilight it was all about vampires. Now with DC and Marvel's line-up and all of these shows coming out based around both universes, it's obvious the future is gonna be jam-packed with superhero shows. They work well for CW (see: Flash breaking all-time records) and it's their way forward.
ReplyDeleteThe five-show choice was spot on since I picked five shows.
ReplyDeleteBeauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, The 100, iZombie and The Messengers. I see those shows going.
I would say Jane the Virgin or Reign, but it seems like The CW's proud of those shows regardless their respective ratings.
Thanks Dahne. I am just really trying to understand, from a business standpoint, what CBS and The CW get out of renewing BaTB this season. This helps.
ReplyDeleteAnd on a sidenote, I'm glad the shows I only pay attention to on The CW are on the very last of the poll results(Supernatural, The Flash and Arrow).
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm bragging about it, lol.
I definitely think Supernatural will run to twelve seasons. I have a feeling that Carver is trying to map out his five season arc as Eric Kripke did. And just like Kripke, Carver only had three seasons plan which has obviously been expanded since Carver doesn't see S10 being the last season.
ReplyDeleteGamble's run was obviously the true intermission between Kripke's years and Carver's years.
pedowitz has said more than once there's getting to be too much genre shows on the network and they would move back to family programming, and that the "network must avoid slipping down an entirely genre rabbit hole" ( his actual quote from an interview last month,
ReplyDeleteWell, I think we can say for sure that all The 100's 16 episodes will all air on Wednesdays this year. The CW can wait until March to debut a new show in this timeslot, and from then, I suppose it depends on what that new show (either The Messengers or iZombie) would do in this timeslot vs. The 100.
ReplyDeleteAs for Tuesdays, they will move SPN before they move The Flash.. there will likely be a new show in the timeslot of Tuesdays at 9PM next year.
Totally agreed with you! :)
ReplyDeleteThe last episode was really cool and funny I really like Catherine and Mary together...
BaTB, IZombie, Reign, JTV, HoD.. tho i enjoy both JTV and Reign i would love to see one of those saved maybe they pull a BaTB on any of those two shows lol... I dunno but i dont IZombie doing much...
ReplyDeleteno no no, they are not going to cancell The 100, no no no. No.
ReplyDeletethose are my predictions as well
ReplyDeleteIf they have a formula that works then they'll continue with shows of that formula. I'm not saying CW will have more than 3 superhero shows, or even 2, but they never had more than 2 vampire shows anyway when the genre was in its prime. My point was that superhero shows are quickly taking over similarly to the vampire boom back then.
ReplyDeleteFlash already is a 'super-hit' to CW considering it broke records. Just because it's not performing on the standard of all the great networks doesn't mean it isn't doing the CW wonders. Look at all of CW's other new shows. Look at the shows even in their second season. Like I said above, superhero craze is happening just like vampires did back then with all the new shows across the various networks. My original comment wasn't just restricted to CW, just a general statement. Good luck to anyone who feels like coming up with a new vampire show.
ReplyDeleteI agree that vampires are getting out of fashion and superheroes are hot right now. I am comparing hit with hit, Flash with TVD (not even in its best years, but last year). Flash has to prove itself yet to be pronounced a super-hit. Yes, it has broke some records on entry which is nice for CW PR but means nothing if it wont be able to keep up with an expectations . It has a long run ahead .
ReplyDeleteFirst time I'm happy to see Beauty and the Beast winning a poll on this site.
ReplyDeleteBeauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Jane the Virgin, MAYBE THE VAMPIRE DIARIES.
ReplyDeleteNOT ARROW THE FLASH OR THE ORIGINALS!!!
I agree
ReplyDeleteI agree but I still loved The Originals!!
ReplyDeleteArrow ROCKS!!!
I think TVD has a better shot as getting another season than TO does.
ReplyDeleteI think Beauty & The Beast, Reign, Hart of Dixie & The Originals (esp. if the ratings continue to be low and slide down).
i don´t get the syndication argument at all? i mean somebody has to buy the rights and well thats not a forgone conclusion
ReplyDeleteJust not the 100 pls
ReplyDeleteBeauty and the Beast, Hart of Dixie, Jane the Virgin, and possibly Reign if the ratings continue to drop.
ReplyDeleteAs for one I wish would get canceled but likely won't because for some mind-boggling reason people still watch: The Vampire Diaries
Won't say either way on iZombie as I haven't even seen an episode or even a proper preview yet.
Yes to BatB, yes to HoD (their star is leaving...the writing is on the wall), yes to Reign. JtV, I hope not. The critical acclaim it's received + the people's choice nom may & hopefully help it's chances, but it's definitely in danger.
ReplyDelete12 sounds good to me
ReplyDeleteThe Bethel and Porter of HOD did say goodbye on Twitter (and it caused a ruckus). They dialed back, but apparently they wrapped up the story in a good place to call an ending. So I won't say the "Cast and crew have given no indication it won't be back."
ReplyDeleteI think HoD and BATB are the most likely gone--shortened seasons, moved timeslots, bad ratings, and at least HoD is probably creatively done. Reign and the 100 seem to be struggling, but I think it's going to come down to how the iZombie and the Messengers do. Midseason shows have such a hard time finding an audience, so I don't have high hopes, but who can say without having seen them at all. I think one of them and Jane are done for.
ReplyDeleteBATB will have 57 episodes at the end of its current season which makes it the closest CBS distributed CW show to syndication. While 88 is preferred, another 13 could be enough to try selling it. Nikita was sold with 73 episodes so they may try BATB with 70.
ReplyDeleteI hope they don't but I wouldn't completely rule it out.
I know that, but doesn't mean I have to agree with that choice.
ReplyDeleteIt's just that both Arrow and The Flash are fresher shows in respect of their content and story telling - I'm just finding the conflicts within stories on TVD, TO and the SPN to be the same ... just presented in a new way - there are just so many seasons of the same thing that anyone can watch!
ReplyDeleteHaven't Beauty and the Beast and Hart of Dixie been announced as in their final season. (My memory is spotty though...) iZombie. I know nothing about The Messengers.
ReplyDeleteJane the Virgin is pretty good though & it's still too early to tell about iZombie
ReplyDeleteI AGREE
ReplyDeleteI just started watching Reign and really really like it so I hope it won't get cancelled XD
ReplyDeleteI really really love Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries, but like some other stated already, I feel like they should make way for some new shows ... or make way for some newer shows to finish a bigger story arch. (I would miss Stefan and Caroline, though ... not as a couple, but just the characters themselves.)
I never got into The 100, Heart of Dixie and Beauty and the Beast, so that's who I voted for... even though I know that The 100 has a slight chance of survival.
I didn't want to vote for any of the shows that haven't aired yet, because I won't just judge from preview posts or short clips, though I have to say The Messengers looked pretty good so far and I'm hoping the show meets my expectations.
good point
ReplyDeleteGood point too
ReplyDeleteNormally I would vote on a poll for this site but I don't vote for polls that encourages negativity from fans of other shows poo pooing other fans shows. That's not the way I was raised and it's a sad reflection on our society when we trample the underdog instead of cheering it on.
ReplyDeleteVERY SAD and I WON'T participate in negative polls such as this one