Oh, of course, more Damon and Elena arguing. It's not like anyone is f*cking tired of it or anything. Even a picture of these two make me wanna stab my eyes out.
This is the episode where Damon uses Ric as an unwilling participant and where these two team up with Liv to attempt to get Bonnie back. It's unlikely they're discussing anything personal at this point. These two are going to be in scenes together whether they're together or not. Let's not flip out over nothing.
That's most probably salvatore mansion.Since elena getting trapped in the 1994 purgatory is highly unlikely,we have to assume the anti-magic spell is lifted by some way.
Is it that unlikely??? IDK, I'm just asking bc someone took a pic of Elena and Damon on her old porch. Could just be from the Bonnie flashback ep, but could also be them all somehow going back to 94 to rescue Bonnie.
Actually I think Elena and Damon are gonna go the 1994 dimension to save Bonnie. Based on a BTS picture on twitter they also had a scene in front of the Gilbert house with the guy who plays Luke. I don't think the conversation they're having is again one of their fights or sth...they seem to be on a mission.
The first 4 seasons have a case on you. Besides that, it's clearly not working for most of the audience, to the point that they just can't stand their scenes. The writers should take a hint but instead they're straight up fan servicing twitter hashtags. How ridiculous is that? #DelenaRainKiss was shoved down the writers throat for months and they actually wrote it just to pander. How weak is that? LOL
I'm not a DE fan but I am sick to my back teeth of people complaining about them. Seriously, it's obvious they're not going away. Stop fucking bitching about it! If you hate it that much, stop watching. But please for the love of all that is holy, stop being so fucking annoying!!! 'I hate them, they're so annoying, they're ruining the show, blah blah blah' - UGH! I get it. You're right, sometimes they are really annoying. But you know what else is annoying? People who hate something but won't.let.it.go. That's annoying for the rest of us. So please, shut the fuck up.
So why are you still watching? You can't think the showrunners are going to let DE go. It's pretty obvious they're here to stay. If it makes you want to stab your eyes out, that's pretty extreme and I think it would be better for your stress levels if you stopped watching. It would also help out all the rest of the fans who are a little bit sick to hearing people bitch. It's almost as if you're being forced to watch it against your will. You do know you can switch it off, right? The big button at the top of your remote should do it.
If the writers gave in to your threats and whines and moans, what do you think that would be other than fanservice? What annoys you is that they aren't giving in to what YOU want because they're too busy giving in to the DE people. If I was a writer on the show and one group of fans were quite viciously mean and nasty about how shit the show is, I don't think I'd be falling over myself to give in to what they wanted lol. You catch more flies with honey.
They've almost always been the main ship of the show going right back to S1. They were the big will they/won't they couple who eventually did.
The CW is only in this to make money and they keep promoting Delena and keep allowing the writers to continue foregrounding Delena. I guess the people who do this professionally totally disagree with you that Delena's "not working for most people".
I liked the rain kiss. It was cute, it made a lot of people happy, and it had no impact on the plot. I'm fine with fan service handled in that manner.
They've almost always been the main ship of the show going right back to S1. They were the big will they or won't they couple who eventually did.
The CW is only in this to make money and they keep promoting Delena and allowing the writers to foreground Delena. I guess the people who do this professionally totally disagree with your claim that Delena's not working for most people.
I liked the rain kiss. It was cute, made a lot of people happy and had no impact on the plot. I'm fine with fan service handled in that manner.
TVD's ratings DOES continue to decline and I am fed up with the DE diaries as much as anyone, but I agree with +Bruce-F. Judging by the synopsis, this is nothing personal. It may have romantic overtones, that's inevitable with their history, but I'm guessing the topic of conversation is Bonnie.
Uhm, actually, Mo, after 6x07 - which was full of DE scenes even I as an anti-DE fan thought was sort of cute - I checked out JP's twitter, and while some sweet fans showered her with thanks for the DE kiss, there were also quite a lot of hateful and immature tweets from DE fans who were pissed at the woman because they're not happy that it's taking DE this long to find their way back to each other (an inevitable thing really.) I have to disagree that SE fans are immature. Immature and mature fans exist in both fandoms. In all fandoms.
Except that I haven't been moaning for anything. Nor will I sugar coat things just to get in the writer's good graces and get "what I want" because that would be fan service, something I don't think is fair or good for a show. When the writers write a scene and shove it down an episide just because some fans tweeted them #DelenaRainKiss for months, something is wrong. I'm definitely not alone in this and if the writers want the audience to take the show seriously they just reached a new low with the same recycled scenes for two seasons and a blatant fan service. So me disliking the fan service equals asking for some fan service myself? That makes sense lol.
There are three options:it is a flashback,Elena and Damon are trapped in 1994 or the anti-magic spell is gone. I think it's the last one because a flashback about Damon and Elena in this episode isn't logical and I don't think they are going to travel to 1994. Although it's too soon to get rid of the spell in my opinion.
I still watch it because there's plenty of characters I care about, like Stefan, Bonnie and Caroline. And I think that fans are really more tired ofthe delena diaries than people complaining about it, thats actually a good thing that many viewers are expresing their dislike for poor writing and obvious fan service. The sshow rather makes me laugh instead of making me angry, and no, I won't ignore their bull. You're getting a little too personal with your language, though. I'd be careful calling people who are disatisfied with the show bitchy nasty and whiny, that aint nice. As much as I hate the fan service I dont go around calling delena fans names or do I judge whatever they do or their reasons for liking what they like.
Wasn't Stelena the big ship for the first 4 seasons? Which while annoying at times, at least wasn't created through extreme plot contrivance and hours of annoying toxic crap and out of character moments that make me want to throw my computer across the room. I f*cking hate Delena. It's the worst relationship, of anything I've seen had to endure.
You're saying it like all people in the fandom loved Stelena when they were the main couple. Lots of people were bored to death by them. My own cousin almost dropped the show back in season 1 solely because she couldn't handle seeing stelena scenes but continued because of the plot. Stelena was the main couple for the first 3 or 4 seasons and despite lots of people hating SE, lots of people also liked them and the writers continued writing them as the main couple...now Delena is the main couple and no matter how many haters they have, a good portion of fandom love them. The reason people who disliked SE didn't drop the show? The writing was brilliant. but now?The matter with the latest season isn't DE being together, it is crappy writing and unnecessary focus on romance. Actually this season the way they're handling things is getting better, the story is more interesting than s4 and s5's and honestly DD's romance is being handled better. As far as I see improvement, I'm happy and fine with whatever couple being the main one. Speaking of fanservice, SErs got "resident evil"'s fanfic alt-universe in s5 and klaroliners got theirs in the 100th episode. I guess DErs kinda deserved their own fanservice.
I don't think it's a fan service as much as the writers running out of ideas of how to handle Stefan's character, poor Caroline has been merely a love interest to someone for ages!
Julie Plec have always said that Steroline was always meant to be a friendship,a strong one,just like Stefan and Lexy's friendship,but then people started to see them as a couple and they are pratically begging the writers to make it happen.(and it will happen,eventually,trust me).If this is not fan service...
I know it's a fan service, but isn't that what the writers have been doing for the last 3 seasons? Delena happened, Stebekah, klaroline, and you name it, the last was a damn rain kiss who the writers saw trending on twitter so they used it...we need to face it sooner or later, the old TVD is gone, now it's all about sappy romance, and not so intriguing plot!
What a shame,right? These are the same creatives who gave us episodes like-Lost girls,Miss mystic falls,The turning point,162 candles,Foundation day,The return,Plan B,Katerina,Rose,Masquerade,The sun also rises,The departed,Klaus,Ordinary people! What happened to them,seriously?
voices of reason left! now Caroline Dries calls the shots with her fangirls-filled staff! am livid that they're taking ideas from twitter to implement on the show! I stopped watching TVD this season bc I literally can't take it any more!
Right okay. Whatever you say. Still a lot less awful(and actually made some sense) unlike Delena. To which Plec basically said would never have actually without the ridiculous plot contrivance of the sire bond.
TBH? Yes IMO everyone who doesn't see that is oblivious. It's a teen drama on the CW, they have a formula, it's not rocket science and which ship is the main ship and which ships are roadblock ships is always very obvs. I've loved several CW teen drama roadblock ships (Brucas and Dair fans, represent!) but I was always aware they were what they were.
And it is of course your prerogative to prefer Elena's relationship with one serial killer with a history of stalking, torture and abusive behavior to her relationship with another serial killer with a history of the same.
I was being sarcastic about the oblivious part. I don't care which Salvatore she ends up with. I merely stated my least objection as a relationship to Stelena. As I find it to actually make sense character wise and not ruin two characters for me.
I guess that's why JP and KW said this back in the day: J. Plec: The bottom line is that Elena and Stefan are the true epic love story of the show. Damon is the third point of the triangle. K. Williamson: This show is always going to be about Stefan and Elena. It has to be. They’re soulmates. K. Williamson: One of the most important things Julie and I wanted to do this season is cement the love between Stefan and Elena. It’s that love story that will be the anchor of this entire show. We have to earn that
SE WERE the main couple of the show. DE was going to happen one way or another, sooner or later, but CW and the writers - mistakenly, I might add - thought a bigger portion of the audience wanted DE. IMO, the fandom has always been divided, and some people only liked DE before they got together, in their will they/won't they stage.
But whatever, you know. It's partly like +Sara (the other one, lol) said, IMO, one of the main reasons people dropped the show is crappy writing and needless focus on romance. I can deal with DE. I think Damon is a sicko 80 % of the time, but I can deal, so long as the show remembers to focus on the other characters. And they've been writing Damon much better this season - after his regressing behavior in s5, I'm hoping he stays this way.
Yeah on plot points, twists and mysteries not on the importance of romances. You could just admit that maybe Delena hasn't always been the sun of the Vampire Diaries universe.
I'm sorry of this comes off as insulting but you just seem to be in denial about this a little. It's okay if they weren't it just means a show changed and went a different direction.
Yep. I'm in denial about teen dramas following certain formulas and showrunners lying when expedient, bc my world will shatter if a fictional vampire couple weren't planned as endgame from the the moment the show was greenlit. You've got me.
That's the difference between delena and other fans of the show.The former fans are only seeing things what will support their shipper mind,any other logic won't be sufficient!
You know adult 18-49 demo is what is considered for renewal purpose in which the show is tanking week after week.I love the show as much as u do but don't sugarcoat it.The ratings are plummeting and the reason for it is very obvious.I don't need to spell it out.
Bc it's an aging show and while there are a couple of exceptions that's almost always what happens to aging shows. Ratings significantly decline. Are you really gonna argue that the CW doesn't do research into what makes them $ and what doesn't? Do you really believe they'd be letting Delena go on if they thought it was bad for business?
Joy, you saw the ad rates for the CW just as I did. TVD is making by far the most money per ad this season (and $ is all the CW cares about) on the CW and it's bc it still gets great W18-34. The CW isn't selling ads based on TVD's 18-49 rating, it's selling them based on W18-34.
Despite your points,I am seeing series low numbers and you delena fans are in denial.I'm in no position to argue nor do i have any interest.I can only hope it doesn't fall too much.
I think the main they are letting delena go on coz they understands the miniscule amount of viewership that are still sticking around are in majority delena fans and those of the audiences stuck around for good storytelling,have bailed last season.So,why drive away the only thing that's working at present?Otherwise if they drop delena now,the rest audience will also go away.
What's there to be in denial about?! Ratings ARE down. It's an aging show and a show where except 1 season (S4) ratings have always declined a lot each yr vs the prev yr, meaning each season its hit series low numbers. For a show in it's 6th season TVD is doing fine in 18-49 and better than fine in W18-34 which again is what the CW is gonna sell its ads based on. Ratings will prob do what they always do: decline when it returns after Thanksgiving (esp bc there's that Peter Pan live thing 1 week and Sound of Music live hit TVD's ratings badly last season), rebound in Jan, decline in Spring, rebound a little next Fall. We'll get a full S7 and if we're lucky might get some kind of partial or full S8, which I'm guessing is as much as the leads would ever consider sticking around for anyway and is prob what the CW is aiming for, bc at the end of last season they gave JP a new 3 year contract which would take us thru S4 of TO and S8 of TVD.
Considering all the leads are wanting move on,i'm really doubtful about season 8.But yes,a full season 7 is definitely on cards.I just don't wanna see it go out limpering like GG and 90210 did in their end days!
Idk it's hard to say at this early stage but I wouldn't rule out a S8, partic not a shortened one they can promote in "THE FINAL SEASON" way the CW loves to do, lol. TBH when it comes to contract renewals I always ignore anything leads say bc it's usually a negotiating tactic. I've seen way too many actors go around acting like they can't wait to leave, only to sign back up again and again. If the TVD leads mean it or not, we'll have to wait and see, but it's not like any of their careers are doing well outside of TVD.
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Oh, of course, more Damon and Elena arguing. It's not like anyone is f*cking tired of it or anything. Even a picture of these two make me wanna stab my eyes out.
ReplyDeleteIts the reason this show will die its turned into the elena damon crap drama i just wanna see the 2 of em find there own way away from each other
ReplyDeleteThis is the episode where Damon uses Ric as an unwilling participant and where these two team up with Liv to attempt to get Bonnie back. It's unlikely they're discussing anything personal at this point. These two are going to be in scenes together whether they're together or not. Let's not flip out over nothing.
ReplyDeleteits already getting some of the lowest ratings this season so their already killing it
ReplyDeletei hope elena got her memories back and her and damon are together, who actually likes the Twitches?
ReplyDeleteThat looks like the Salvatore Boarding House.
ReplyDeleteI guess the anti-magic zone over MF is gone?
or they're in 1994 purgatory
ReplyDeleteno flannel so probably not lol, its probably the common room at Whitmore
ReplyDeleteI think it' s a flashback! Pay attention at the photo, it looks like the Salavators house.
ReplyDeleteStefan is not mentioned in the synopsis and there's no sign of him in the promotional photos. Where is he?
ReplyDeletein bed with caroline probably lol
ReplyDeleteProbably contemplating his exit rout after the season ends.He is serving as a doormat in delena sobfest for a long time,why start now?
ReplyDeleteThat's most probably salvatore mansion.Since elena getting trapped in the 1994 purgatory is highly unlikely,we have to assume the anti-magic spell is lifted by some way.
ReplyDeleteIs it that unlikely??? IDK, I'm just asking bc someone took a pic of Elena and Damon on her old porch. Could just be from the Bonnie flashback ep, but could also be them all somehow going back to 94 to rescue Bonnie.
ReplyDeleteThat would be very interesting but i highly doubt this scenario.It's just a gut feeling,can't explain it.
ReplyDeleteTBH I think you're probably right, I just figured I'd throw a different possibility out there :)
ReplyDeleteNot really. In TVD's key demo (W18-34) it's holding steady and continues to tie with The Flash for #1 on the CW in that demo.
ReplyDeleteThey're the main couple on the show. What are you expecting?!
ReplyDeleteI know.TBH sometimes i feel like we commentators are coming up some better ideas than the writing staff of TVD!LOL!
ReplyDeleteActually I think Elena and Damon are gonna go the 1994 dimension to save Bonnie. Based on a BTS picture on twitter they also had a scene in front of the Gilbert house with the guy who plays Luke. I don't think the conversation they're having is again one of their fights or sth...they seem to be on a mission.
ReplyDeleteThe first 4 seasons have a case on you. Besides that, it's clearly not working for most of the audience, to the point that they just can't stand their scenes. The writers should take a hint but instead they're straight up fan servicing twitter hashtags. How ridiculous is that? #DelenaRainKiss was shoved down the writers throat for months and they actually wrote it just to pander. How weak is that? LOL
ReplyDeleteI'm not a DE fan but I am sick to my back teeth of people complaining about them. Seriously, it's obvious they're not going away. Stop fucking bitching about it! If you hate it that much, stop watching. But please for the love of all that is holy, stop being so fucking annoying!!! 'I hate them, they're so annoying, they're ruining the show, blah blah blah' - UGH! I get it. You're right, sometimes they are really annoying. But you know what else is annoying? People who hate something but won't.let.it.go. That's annoying for the rest of us. So please, shut the fuck up.
ReplyDeleteSo why are you still watching? You can't think the showrunners are going to let DE go. It's pretty obvious they're here to stay. If it makes you want to stab your eyes out, that's pretty extreme and I think it would be better for your stress levels if you stopped watching. It would also help out all the rest of the fans who are a little bit sick to hearing people bitch. It's almost as if you're being forced to watch it against your will. You do know you can switch it off, right? The big button at the top of your remote should do it.
ReplyDeleteIf the writers gave in to your threats and whines and moans, what do you think that would be other than fanservice? What annoys you is that they aren't giving in to what YOU want because they're too busy giving in to the DE people. If I was a writer on the show and one group of fans were quite viciously mean and nasty about how shit the show is, I don't think I'd be falling over myself to give in to what they wanted lol. You catch more flies with honey.
ReplyDeleteThey've almost always been the main ship of the show going right back to S1. They were the big will they/won't they couple who eventually did.
ReplyDeleteThe CW is only in this to make money and they keep promoting Delena and keep allowing the writers to continue foregrounding Delena. I guess the people who do this professionally totally disagree with you that Delena's "not working for most people".
I liked the rain kiss. It was cute, it made a lot of people happy, and it had no impact on the plot. I'm fine with fan service handled in that manner.
They've almost always been the main ship of the show going right back
ReplyDeleteto S1. They were the big will they or won't they couple who eventually
did.
The CW is only in this to make money and they keep promoting
Delena and allowing the writers to foreground Delena. I guess the people who do this professionally totally disagree with your claim that Delena's not working for most people.
I liked the rain kiss. It was cute, made a lot of people happy and had no impact on the plot. I'm fine with fan service handled in that manner.
TVD's ratings DOES continue to decline and I am fed up with the DE diaries as much as anyone, but I agree with +Bruce-F. Judging by the synopsis, this is nothing personal. It may have romantic overtones, that's inevitable with their history, but I'm guessing the topic of conversation is Bonnie.
ReplyDeleteUhm, actually, Mo, after 6x07 - which was full of DE scenes even I as an anti-DE fan thought was sort of cute - I checked out JP's twitter, and while some sweet fans showered her with thanks for the DE kiss, there were also quite a lot of hateful and immature tweets from DE fans who were pissed at the woman because they're not happy that it's taking DE this long to find their way back to each other (an inevitable thing really.) I have to disagree that SE fans are immature. Immature and mature fans exist in both fandoms. In all fandoms.
ReplyDeleteI do, actually. I know many people who do. They're certainly more interesting than Markos. XD
ReplyDeleteHahah, I hope not! I hate this Steroline thing.It's just fan service!
ReplyDeleteExcept that I haven't been moaning for anything. Nor will I sugar coat things just to get in the writer's good graces and get "what I want" because that would be fan service, something I don't think is fair or good for a show. When the writers write a scene and shove it down an episide just because some fans tweeted them #DelenaRainKiss for months, something is wrong. I'm definitely not alone in this and if the writers want the audience to take the show seriously they just reached a new low with the same recycled scenes for two seasons and a blatant fan service. So me disliking the fan service equals asking for some fan service myself? That makes sense lol.
ReplyDeleteThat would be better, but I'm still suspicious.
ReplyDeleteThere are three options:it is a flashback,Elena and Damon are trapped in 1994 or the anti-magic spell is gone. I think it's the last one because a flashback about Damon and Elena in this episode isn't logical and I don't think they are going to travel to 1994. Although it's too soon to get rid of the spell in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteI still watch it because there's plenty of characters I care about, like Stefan, Bonnie and Caroline. And I think that fans are really more tired ofthe delena diaries than people complaining about it, thats actually a good thing that many viewers are expresing their dislike for poor writing and obvious fan service. The sshow rather makes me laugh instead of making me angry, and no, I won't ignore their bull. You're getting a little too personal with your language, though. I'd be careful calling people who are disatisfied with the show bitchy nasty and whiny, that aint nice. As much as I hate the fan service I dont go around calling delena fans names or do I judge whatever they do or their reasons for liking what they like.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Stelena the big ship for the first 4 seasons? Which while annoying at times, at least wasn't created through extreme plot contrivance and hours of annoying toxic crap and out of character moments that make me want to throw my computer across the room. I f*cking hate Delena. It's the worst relationship, of anything I've seen had to endure.
ReplyDeleteYou're saying it like all people in the fandom loved Stelena when they were the main couple. Lots of people were bored to death by them. My own cousin almost dropped the show back in season 1 solely because she couldn't handle seeing stelena scenes but continued because of the plot. Stelena was the main couple for the first 3 or 4 seasons and despite lots of people hating SE, lots of people also liked them and the writers continued writing them as the main couple...now Delena is the main couple and no matter how many haters they have, a good portion of fandom love them. The reason people who disliked SE didn't drop the show? The writing was brilliant. but now?The matter with the latest season isn't DE being together, it is crappy writing and unnecessary focus on romance. Actually this season the way they're handling things is getting better, the story is more interesting than s4 and s5's and honestly DD's romance is being handled better. As far as I see improvement, I'm happy and fine with whatever couple being the main one.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of fanservice, SErs got "resident evil"'s fanfic alt-universe in s5 and klaroliners got theirs in the 100th episode. I guess DErs kinda deserved their own fanservice.
If by big ship you mean blatant roadblock to the show's obvs actual main ship, then sure. Stelena was to S1-3 as Liam is to S6.
ReplyDeleteI want more pictures.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's a fan service as much as the writers running out of ideas of how to handle Stefan's character, poor Caroline has been merely a love interest to someone for ages!
ReplyDeleteJulie Plec have always said that Steroline was always meant to be a friendship,a strong one,just like Stefan and Lexy's friendship,but then people started to see them as a couple and they are pratically begging the writers to make it happen.(and it will happen,eventually,trust me).If this is not fan service...
ReplyDeleteI know it's a fan service, but isn't that what the writers have been doing for the last 3 seasons? Delena happened, Stebekah, klaroline, and you name it, the last was a damn rain kiss who the writers saw trending on twitter so they used it...we need to face it sooner or later, the old TVD is gone, now it's all about sappy romance, and not so intriguing plot!
ReplyDeleteWhat a shame,right?
ReplyDeleteThese are the same creatives who gave us episodes like-Lost girls,Miss mystic falls,The turning point,162 candles,Foundation day,The return,Plan B,Katerina,Rose,Masquerade,The sun also rises,The departed,Klaus,Ordinary people! What happened to them,seriously?
voices of reason left! now Caroline Dries calls the shots with her fangirls-filled staff! am livid that they're taking ideas from twitter to implement on the show! I stopped watching TVD this season bc I literally can't take it any more!
ReplyDeletei couldn't agree more!
ReplyDeletemaybe they ARE trapped in the '94 prison but with bonnie
ReplyDeleteRight okay. Whatever you say. Still a lot less awful(and actually made some sense) unlike Delena. To which Plec basically said would never have actually without the ridiculous plot contrivance of the sire bond.
ReplyDeletePlec's said a lot of shit over the years. Wouldn't take her word necessarily.
ReplyDeleteTBH? Yes IMO everyone who doesn't see that is oblivious. It's a teen drama on the CW, they have a formula, it's not rocket science and which ship is the main ship and which ships are roadblock ships is always very obvs. I've loved several CW teen drama roadblock ships (Brucas and Dair fans, represent!) but I was always aware they were what they were.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is of course your prerogative to prefer Elena's relationship with one serial killer with a history of stalking, torture and abusive behavior to her relationship with another serial killer with a history of the same.
I was being sarcastic about the oblivious part. I don't care which Salvatore she ends up with. I merely stated my least objection as a relationship to Stelena. As I find it to actually make sense character wise and not ruin two characters for me.
ReplyDeleteI guess that's why JP and KW said this back in the day:
ReplyDeleteJ. Plec: The bottom line is that Elena and Stefan are the true epic love story of the show. Damon is the third point of the triangle.
K. Williamson: This show is always going to be about Stefan and Elena. It has to be. They’re soulmates.
K. Williamson: One of the most important things Julie and I wanted to do this season is cement the love between Stefan and Elena. It’s that love story that will be the anchor of this entire show. We have to earn that
SE WERE the main couple of the show. DE was going to happen one way or another, sooner or later, but CW and the writers - mistakenly, I might add - thought a bigger portion of the audience wanted DE. IMO, the fandom has always been divided, and some people only liked DE before they got together, in their will they/won't they stage.
But whatever, you know. It's partly like +Sara (the other one, lol) said, IMO, one of the main reasons people dropped the show is crappy writing and needless focus on romance. I can deal with DE. I think Damon is a sicko 80 % of the time, but I can deal, so long as the show remembers to focus on the other characters. And they've been writing Damon much better this season - after his regressing behavior in s5, I'm hoping he stays this way.
I don't want to shock you, but showrunners tend to lie.
ReplyDeleteYeah on plot points, twists and mysteries not on the importance of romances. You could just admit that maybe Delena hasn't always been the sun of the Vampire Diaries universe.
ReplyDeleteLol, of course they lie about the romances. That's prob the main thing showrunners do lie about.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry of this comes off as insulting but you just seem to be in denial about this a little. It's okay if they weren't it just means a show changed and went a different direction.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately i can't quit it even if my brain is telling me to do so.So,i can only hope it improves moving forward or i'm screwed royally!
ReplyDeleteIf that was the case,why is the show at an series low number at present?
ReplyDeleteYep. I'm in denial about teen dramas following certain formulas and showrunners lying when expedient, bc my world will shatter if a fictional vampire couple weren't planned as endgame from the the moment the show was greenlit. You've got me.
ReplyDeleteThat's the difference between delena and other fans of the show.The former fans are only seeing things what will support their shipper mind,any other logic won't be sufficient!
ReplyDeleteYou know adult 18-49 demo is what is considered for renewal purpose in which the show is tanking week after week.I love the show as much as u do but don't sugarcoat it.The ratings are plummeting and the reason for it is very obvious.I don't need to spell it out.
ReplyDeleteBc it's an aging show and while there are a couple of exceptions that's almost always what happens to aging shows. Ratings significantly decline. Are you really gonna argue that the CW doesn't do research into what makes them $ and what doesn't? Do you really believe they'd be letting Delena go on if they thought it was bad for business?
ReplyDeleteJoy, you saw the ad rates for the CW just as I did. TVD is making by far the most money per ad this season (and $ is all the CW cares about) on the CW and it's bc it still gets great W18-34. The CW isn't selling ads based on TVD's 18-49 rating, it's selling them based on W18-34.
ReplyDeleteI just hope ratings rise a bit in the future episodes!That would make me very happy!
ReplyDeleteDespite your points,I am seeing series low numbers and you delena fans are in denial.I'm in no position to argue nor do i have any interest.I can only hope it doesn't fall too much.
ReplyDeleteI think the main they are letting delena go on coz they understands the miniscule amount of viewership that are still sticking around are in majority delena fans and those of the audiences stuck around for good storytelling,have bailed last season.So,why drive away the only thing that's working at present?Otherwise if they drop delena now,the rest audience will also go away.
ReplyDeleteWhat's there to be in denial about?! Ratings ARE down. It's an aging show and a show where except 1 season (S4) ratings have always declined a lot each yr vs the prev yr, meaning each season its hit series low numbers. For a show in it's 6th season TVD is doing fine in 18-49 and better than fine in W18-34 which again is what the CW is gonna sell its ads based on. Ratings will prob do what they always do: decline when it returns after Thanksgiving (esp bc there's that Peter Pan live thing 1 week and Sound of Music live hit TVD's ratings badly last season), rebound in Jan, decline in Spring, rebound a little next Fall. We'll get a full S7 and if we're lucky might get some kind of partial or full S8, which I'm guessing is as much as the leads would ever consider sticking around for anyway and is prob what the CW is aiming for, bc at the end of last season they gave JP a new 3 year contract which would take us thru S4 of TO and S8 of TVD.
ReplyDeleteConsidering all the leads are wanting move on,i'm really doubtful about season 8.But yes,a full season 7 is definitely on cards.I just don't wanna see it go out limpering like GG and 90210 did in their end days!
ReplyDeleteIdk it's hard to say at this early stage but I wouldn't rule out a S8, partic not a shortened one they can promote in "THE FINAL SEASON" way the CW loves to do, lol. TBH when it comes to contract renewals I always ignore anything leads say bc it's usually a negotiating tactic. I've seen way too many actors go around acting like they can't wait to leave, only to sign back up again and again. If the TVD leads mean it or not, we'll have to wait and see, but it's not like any of their careers are doing well outside of TVD.
ReplyDeleteBut I know what you mean about GG/90210.
Ya,let's see what happens.Everything will become clear once the early renewal news breaks on mid-jan.
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