The Blacklist - The Decembrist (No. 12) - Review: "The Shape Of Things To Come"
14 Nov 2014
GN Reviews The BlacklistThe Blacklist aired its Midseason Finale on Monday Night, concluding a few story lines and beginning many others. There were a few shocking reveals, twists, and turns and overall a great episode to watch before the show goes on almost a three month hiatus until February. The hour played out like a movie with intense moments, gruesome explosions and by the end you could tell there would be a sequel with plot points that will be played out through the remainder of Season Two.
The episode begins with flashbacks from 4 months ago, and the events ending the Season One Finale, leading up to present day. Liz saved Tom's life by having her friend, Ellie, stitch him up only to have him chained and locked on a boat that we have seen since the beginning of this season. We catch a glimpse of several different days since, and learn how Liz came about some of the information she gave Red along the way, such as Berlin hiding his money with Monarch Douglas Bank in Warsaw.
We then come to Red questioning Berlin and his daughter, Zoe, to uncover the truth behind who set him up. Zoe reveals she was aided by a man who called himself The Decembrist, this weeks villain. Number 12 on the blacklist, The Decembrist is someone we have known about since the middle of season one, but not by that unique moniker. The majority of the fast-paced hour is Red and Berlin working together to take down the man responsible for attempting to kill Berlin during the Kursk bombing in 1991, which set off a chain of events leading to the predicament our characters were in leading up to the episode.
Berlin was subsequently imprisoned after the bombing and was sent pieces of what he thought was his daughter. Liz, in another moment of role reversals, is the one to give Red the info he needs by telling him it was Kiryl Morozov who was responsible in the Kursk bombing. Red and Berlin work together to take him out, but not before getting the name of the real Decembrist, Alan Fitch.
Berlin acts in haste and Red realizes at this point that he is on his way to kill Fitch. Red reaches Fitch first, but is unable to convince him of his dire situation. It is in this scene, however, that some questions we have had since season one are revealed. Red explains the origins of the photo of the girl he took from the Stewmaker's book when he comes to the conclusion that Fitch was responsible. It is this girl's bones that were sent to Berlin in prison to trick him into thinking it was his daughter. The story that Red tells is my favorite scene in the episode as James Spader does such an excellent job, as usual, in conveying his character's emotion at the time.
After Fitch leaves he is captured by men we can only assume work for Berlin. Red goes to the Post Office to explain to Liz he knows about Tom and is disappointed she couldn't come to him with her situation. The scene is interesting as it appears that Red is talking to his daughter or scolding her. Liz, in turn, appears as though she has disappointed her father in not telling Red about Tom and the previous 4 months she held him locked in a room. I'm not saying that they are father and daughter, but it was just an interesting scene that made it appear that way. You can never tell with The Blacklist as they are constantly throwing us curve-balls and using misdirection.
Next, we learn that Liz released Tom in exchange for intel on Fitch's whereabouts. They find Fitch only to learn that he has a bomb strapped around his neck and the Task Force brings him in to the box at the Post Office, formerly used to hold Red. Red uses Zoe to locate her father, Berlin, in order to find out how to deactivate the bomb using a code. Zoe asks Berlin to lunch, which Red interrupts to no avail because Berlin cannot save Fitch's life. Alone in the box and the inevitable outcome for him looming, Fitch requests to see Red and gives him seemingly important intel on the shape of things to come (I listed them below in the Thoughts and Discussion section).
The episode ends with Berlin's story line coming to a close when Red shares a bottle of Russian Vodka with him. I was a little disappointed with how that arc ended considering it was built up for some time, but glad we are moving forward in the show with new and exciting information recently gathered. Red had yet another scene acting fatherly to Liz when he confronts her on the boat where she held Tom. Liz opens up to him and they share an embrace that tells us we could see the old relationship the two exhibited late last season, that we enjoyed watching so much, reemerge after the winter break. We then see Tom visit Red in a restaurant where Red hands him an envelope. We learn that Tom has been working for Red for at least the previous 4 months. I imagine Tom has been working for Red since he learned that Liz saved him, but some believe it to be earlier than that. I have no idea and hope we get some clarity on this in the latter half of this season.
Episode nine is months away and it appears that with losing some of the recent major players The Blacklist will reboot and start a new story arc. It will be interesting to see how Tom will factor into everything and where the new information we gathered from Fitch will take our beloved characters. I can't wait for the season to continue and we see a new story arc take shape. It is going to be a long winter.
Red's Quotes
"When you love someone you have no control. That's what love is. Being powerless."
- Red to Liz near the end of the episode
Music from the Episode
- "Great Sky" - Other Lives
Liz tells Red she couldn't kill Tom - Red pays off Tom before telling him to never see Liz again.
Thoughts and Discussion
- I was able to ask Jon Bokenkamp a question during a recent Q&A on Facebook and he revealed Liz & Tom's dog from season 1, Hudson, passed away. That is why we see a different dog this season. Very sad.
- I am still a little upset that Liz, in all that time she had Tom in captivity, did not ask once about her father that Tom told her was still alive back in the Season One Finale.
- On Tom and Red working together - I would be happy to read anyone's comments and theories regarding this. I think that Tom did not work for Red at the time they met outside the hospital in Season One when Red went to visit Sam. The way they acted and spoke to each other just makes me think this way. I could be wrong, but it makes sense that Tom began working for Red after the events of the Season One Finale. Please comment below with your theories.
- What was in the envelope that Red gave Tom at the end of the episode? Was it a new life? Money? Was it the key that Red got from Pepper at the end of the episode, "The Front"?
- Where is that key that Red took from Pepper at the end of the episode, "The Front"? (I know, I am obsessed with that key)
- The Decembrist revolt took place in Imperial Russia on December 26th, 1825. Russian army officers led about 3,000 soldiers in a protest against Nicholas I's assumption of the throne after his elder brother Constantine removed himself from the line of succession. Because these events occurred in December, the rebels were called the Decembrists. Any participant in the conspiracy and insurrection of Nicholas I on his accession in December of 1825 is called a Decembrist. Fitch is The Decembrist because he conspired to take out Red by making Berlin think Red killed his daughter and also responsible for the Kursk bombing.
- Fitch, while in the box, mentioned some very interesting things to Red that I am sure will play a very important role in the future of the series:
---Who are Mitchum, Hobbs and Jasper?
---What is the Fulcrum?
---What is in Fitch's safe? The combination is 8-30-44. It is in St. Petersburg (A location with ties to the Decembrist Revolt; it is where the uprising took place) in the wall, on the second floor...
---And, most importantly, what will happen in 2017?!? Did the creators just reveal that something of significance will happen in three years on the series?
Thank you for checking out my Review! Please comment below so we can discuss the episode and the first arc of this season further! Have a great weekend everyone!
Nice review. Shame that the episode was terrible, imo. It genuinely worries me how The Blackist relies so much on its quality and creating creating suspense in almost every scene by introducing a mystery. The biggest shock that I actually enjoyed was pretty much brushed over as if it was nothing: the fact that Fitch is The Decembrist. Really didn't like this episode.
ReplyDeleteThanks bud!
ReplyDeleteThat stinks you didn't enjoy the episode. I thought it was good overall, but I can't stand when shows can't finish story arcs appropriately. The Berlin arc was so built up and to have it just abruptly end like that was a bit of a letdown. And I agree with you that they brushed over Fitch being The Decembrist. They could have made this episode a two parter like Anslo Garrick last season; that would have made it great instead of good.
Yeah, the abrupt ending to Berlin's story was poor. But the scene where he and Red drank before Red killed him was cool. With Fitch, they should've cut just as Morozov was about to say Fitch's name -> hearing the shot from outside the elevator, continued from there and (perhaps) gone to commercial when Berlin says "Alan Fitch is dead."
ReplyDeleteWow, that would have been much better, I agree. It did feel a bit rushed. Like they just wanted to get the reveal out there.
ReplyDeleteYep. This season The Blacklist has played off its reveals far too much, where in season 1 they played off of Red a lot. Though they couldn't keep using Spader only for the entirety of the show, they picked the wrong thing to focus on instead.
ReplyDeleteI loved it. It sucks that we have to wait till the Super Bowl for the next episode.
ReplyDeleteYeah three months feels like we are waiting in between seasons rather than a break.
ReplyDeleteDid not envy your having to stitch this all together for us but you did an excellent job of it. I had looked up Decembrist wondering about the relationship to the story as The Blacklist seldom throws in unrelated references. I assumed it was about Berlin's group trying to restore the old order/the Kursk bombing/and Fitch foiling the attempt. They seemed to try to build up a teeny tad of sympathy for Fitch towards his end showing he did what he did believing it was to preserve balance. But, yikes, he intentionally set out to murder Red by proxy by so cold bloodedly priming Berlin to launch a revenge mission to kill Red so that I felt no regret after the walls of the chamber ran red. As usual from this show we are getting mixed signals about the length of Tom and Red's deal -- I too thought that scene outside Lizzie's foster dad's hospital indicated that Tom was not working for Red then but then I wondered how Tom became involved with Berlin to begin with. Still not sure why he told Lizzie that he was one of the good guys( which is not holding water after the way he dispatched that poor innocent guy on the boat and if he since he was working for Red by then, that man's death is on Red too). So many questions and so much time to ponder. Thanks for the review.
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure! Thank you for the kind words!
ReplyDeleteIt was fun putting all that together so it made sense. I love how all the pieces fit together now that we know how it all started with Fitch. I love the reference to the Decembrist Revolt. I actually got to ask Jon Bokenkamp about that during a Q&A he did on Facebook the other day.
Now I plan on updating my "Unanswered Questions" post so keep an eye out for that.
I know quite a few people did not like Berlin's arc ending that way ( some did , I see from new comments) but I thought it was fitting that the two enemies ( made intentionally so) sat down to have a bottle of vodka together and when it was empty, one dispatched the other. And Berlin knew what was coming when the bottle was empty.
ReplyDeleteI was actually ok with the Berlin arc ending the way it did. It kind of reminded me of the classic mob deaths. It was very "civilized." Berlin had to die, and he knew it. Plus, I never really thought he was much a match for Reddington. If someone killed Red's daughter in that manner, he would have the guy found and dead in about an hour.
ReplyDeleteWhat Tom said to Red is interesting, but it doesn't tell us much. I never told her about "us." That is kind of ambiguious. It implies that they are working together, but it doesn't go as far as to say that. Notice how easily Red found the boat in this episode. He knew about Tom all along and allowed him to feed her information for some reason. Red's hatred of Tom was pretty clear, and if I am not mistaken, I thought even Dembe gave him a dirty look. I don't think he placed Tom in Lizzie's life, but I think sometime after the hospital, he "paid him offf" to keep something hidden from Lizzy. Tom was obsessed with finding the link between the two of them after all.
I did think that Red and Tom acted very much like father and daughter. I prefer them having that type of relationship instead of Lizzie acting angry at him as she has for much of this season. While he is a criminal, and not a "good" guy, it would be hard to hate him given his undying devotion to her. Even him killing her "father" made sense in a perverse way...
I do think the Blacklist needs to watch out for twists made for twists sake. The best kind of twists are like that of The Sixth Sense when the clues were there all along, and you just miss them the first time through. Sometimes I get the sense that the Blacklist writers are igorning continuity and pulling out the rug for the point of shock value. They need to be careful of this.
I have been thinking a lot about the major question of the show of whether Red is her father... I am starting to believe that he can't be anything but due to the portrayal by Spader. It just won't make sense. I think the whole "question" of this is merely a red herring, and it is what it appears to be. I think the real twist will be what Red is really doing with the Blacklist and why he turned all those years ago. That will be the shock. I keep thinking back to what he said in the Anslo Garrick episode, "You can't judge a book by its cover, but you can by its first few chapters and certainly its last." Somehow I think Red believes this is his redemption (which he also said to Lizzie in episode 1.)
Maybe? haha
The jury is still out on this one. Like you said, it was a fast-paced hour and there were quite some nice twists and reveals. However, it was not near as good as Anslo Garrick. The reveal that The Decembrist was Alan Fitch fell flat as I saw it coming (the episode was previously entitled 'Alan Fitch' acoording to a Raina Reveals). The Red/Tom reveal was more interesting but it still doesn't seem right. Like you, I am wondering since when they have been working together and how Red managed to do that.
ReplyDeleteAs to Liz not asking Tom about her father, I think there are three possibilities:
1. She did ask him but either he couldn't tell her or he didn't want to. So he just told her that he only knew that her father was alive but that he didn't know who it was.
2. She asked him and he told her, only it happened off-screen and she is not telling anyone.
3. Whatever Tom whispered into Liz's ear, wasn't "Your father is still alive" but something else. I would have to rewatch the scene, but I don't remember that we actually heard Tom saying that. Instead, we just heard whispers but no actual text. So Liz told Red that Tom told her that her father is still alive in order to throw Red off or to get him to reveal something about her father. It might be a bit far-fetched but it's just something I thought of.
Something I am wondering about, is how is The Decembrist already on the blacklist while Red just hears about him during this episode. Does that mean that Red already knew about The Decembrist or does Red add names to the blacklist as time goes by? This also counts for Berlin, who was also on the blacklist before Red supposedly heard his name for the first time.
Lol, I think you are right. Very good points all around. I hope that the writers are not just adding shock value to episodes because that could be bad for ratings going forward.
ReplyDeleteI was also thinking of the father/daughter dynamic and the eventual reveal if its true or not and there are going to be a lot of fans disappointed if its not done right, don't you think?
My theory is that at one point Red followed Liz (possibly after the events of episode one) and that is how he discovered her secret and paid Tom off. I could be wrong, but it's tough to believe that Tom was working with Red before the season one finale. They were shooting at each other. Red was going to kill him. And it would also mean that Red had Tom working for him while Liz was married to him, which Liz would never forgive if she found out.
I like your ideas for the father question. We only saw snippets of their conversations the last 4 months. I know that is definitely something she drilled him on. We just aren't seeing it yet. In the real world, Tom wouldn't have said your "Father is still alive." He would have said, "Your father is ________". But, of course, they have to drag this out... ;-)
ReplyDeleteGood point Ashley!
ReplyDeleteI saw that too on 'Raina Reveals'. And I am going to go with option two. It happened off screen and Liz knows who her father is. Which, I am saying it here now that if it's not Red is going to be a huge disappointment. The only other plausible option would be he adopted her when she was a fetus.
ReplyDeleteAnd about your last paragraph....Which is an awesome question, so I will give you a theory. Berlin was always number eight on the blacklist, but Red never knew it was Berlin that was after him until much later. So he knew OF Berlin just not that he was the bad guy that was looking for him at that time. And about The Decembrist... I always thought of the blacklist as something organic...something always changing and in a state of flux. Red adds and deletes as the days pass. If it wasn't like that then that would mean that all criminals are accounted for now.
I agree. Berlin knew it was coming and possibly a little before it was empty.
ReplyDeleteInteresting theory about the blacklist and I can agree on it. Red didn't know his enemy was called Berlin but he did know of his enemy so he just added him to the list as #8.
ReplyDeleteLiz sure is a bit naive at times, but there is absolutely no way she did not ask Tom about her father, I agree with Ashley on that. So I am just going to assume she knows who her father is. And I too think they should just go with the Red is Liz's father reveal. It would make the entire puzzle complete and I would be totally fine with it. Red could have adopted her but then she basically would have been adopted twice: one by Red and one by Sam. Double adoption lol. Can Mary-Louise Parker just return to the show and give us all the answers we want please?
I was initially a bit let down by the episode, but after watching it a second I realized just how good it was. So much better than I first thought!
ReplyDeleteNot only the confirmations to many of the theories put out there, but so many stellar performances! Old Tom was back, Alda was amazing in his final moments as Fitch, Spader was amazing as usual... It was really a strong episode of acting!
I can't speak for others, but nothing surprised me in the first 45 minutes or so, but the last scene was a shocker to me! I still do not know how to take the revelation that Tom and Red have a history of some kind and that Red paid Tom for something!
In regards to who are Mitchum, Hobbs, and Jasper I made a collage of The Alliance from The Kingmaker episode. I assume they are three of the unnamed Alliance members seen in the collage.
I wondered about if Red was aware of Berlin or not as well. I tend to believe him when he said he had no idea who was coming after him or why. Which would mean he did not know Berlin's name at least. Perhaps he was on the list aunder some alias or other desgination, but I don't think so!
ReplyDeleteI think the numbers for the Blacklist are more for the viewers than anything Red literally made. I don't think Red has an actual list. I think he just has a loose collection of names of people he has worked with... or names of people he needs eliminated or needs to get information from.
That I am also wondering about: does Red actually have a written blacklist or is it just in his head? It's likely the latter as having a written list would kind of make him redundant and he would just be arrested. I think Berlin was on the blacklist as some unknown enemy of Red. He did not know his name but he did know of him so he just had him on there under a different name.
ReplyDeleteTho i feel it was a great episode, the action, the fast paced and all that kept you bitting your nails. I'm dissapointed on the way the Berlin and his daugther ended, tho i wasnt expecting a heartwarming reunion, I expected more than just a few words and a dinner where nothing came to a closure and then we see Red killing Berlin just to prove something, Im here asking myself id Red would've killed Berlin if this one would've saved Alan which we learn was the only one that was "protecting" Red from the people he works with.
ReplyDeleteTom reveal was really the big surprise for me and it is something got me and one of my friends talking about... Since when was Tom working for Red? He says he has always worked for Red as a way to take care of Liz, he says he was doing a double play like Navabi is doing and Red didnt know Tom was working for Berlin until it was too late.
I say it has to be after the reunion (when they talked in the hospital) way before the events of the season finale and he actually thought he was dead.
You know i thought the guy that found Tom was one of Red's associates, Red is everywhere and I was not gonna be surprised if that guy ended up being someone working for Red. It also give us some sort of answer regarding Liz and the "warrior gene" (was it called that way? i forgot, sorry). Tom told to her that she will never kill in cold blood and she couldnt in the end.
Red talking to her was a sweet moment. She still loves Tom and that's her "weakness" and i feel Tom really loves her too.
I hope this is not the last we see of Tom, Im sure he will be played later in the season. He didnt say anything to Liz about Red knowing he has all the cards to change Red's world regarding Liz, because he is not stupd and he knows Red is better as an ally than an enemy.
I do believe she asked about her father but they didnt show it. Maybe they are showing it up later in the season Cause this episode wasnt about that. It was about Berlin and how to find him.
There are other options though, one in particular I've considered...
ReplyDeleteRed could have put Tom in Liz's life to protect her or spy on her and at some point was recruited by Berlin. Maybe he turned on Red? I'm not sure Red would let him live in that case, but maybe Tom bought his life by promising to not reveal information to Liz.
Like you I think it's most likely whatever Red paid Tom for was after the Season 1 finale. Although I do think Tom's comment in the episode suggests they have some history together prior to Tom being held captive by Liz. Maybe Red hired Tom for some job in the past?
Definitely possible.
ReplyDeleteGoing by what we think Red knew...
Berlin and Fitch could or maybe should have been one number on the list... Red thought he had one adversary that was causing all the problems. So maybe Berlin was that number under some other alias.....
That said, I do not see a way the Decmeberist could have even been on the list since Red learned of him during the episode. By all appearances Red thought Fitch had been playing by their agreed rules for longer than he had. He did not seem to suspect Fitch of being involved in his issues as far as I could tell...
That's why I think the list does not exist in any form. Like you said, Red is to osmart ot have a physical list of any kind. I doubt we will ever know.
I liked that scene. What annoyed me was the fact that they spent a lot of season 1 building up Berlin as if he was this major villain only to include him in two S2 episodes, leave him out for a while then bring him back just in time to kill him.
ReplyDeleteI was fine with it too.
ReplyDeleteI expected Berlin to die at Red's hand at some point. Once he met with the daughter it was obvious the meeting she set up would be the end of Berlin.
Plus I think it was almost fated for Berlin to die at that point. He had survived on revenge fueled rage after discovering his daughter was alive what was he going to do next? HE knew he could never be part of her life, but he still was at peace since the daughter he thought long dead was alive and well. I think he was almost okay with dying.
I agree that the Berlin arc is a bit underwhelming. Red even said at the end of one episode in season 1 that a war was coming, but honestly I haven't really felt the threat of that. Of course Meera died and Cooper was nearly killed but that was about it.
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if The Decemberist was also a reference to Fitch.
ReplyDeleteThe Alliance is basically a silent revolt against the US government, and governments in general. A group without any regional borders concerned more about power and money than protecting any one nation.
And the show didn't make Meera into enough of a character for anyone to even care about her dying.
ReplyDeleteI was luke warm about it, but I watched it again and really loved it!
ReplyDeleteIt went from a good to a great at least as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe you will like it more on second watch, but your opinion may not change since you seem to be fairly passionate about the things you considered negative...
I think war may be coming, but from a direction Red did not expect!
ReplyDeleteNow that Fitch is dead The Alliance has no one to hold them back o they could be coming after Red. That's certainly what Fitch suggested would happen anyway...
I went the opposite way. First watch I was kinda meh, second watch just pushed it right into the negative side.
ReplyDeleteI'm still not sure how I feel about the Berlin arc I guess....
ReplyDeleteI know I think the Berlin character was a bit of a let down in the end, but if I add in the mysterious girl from the Stewmaker photo turning out to be his daughter, Red's hunt for her, and Red being able to use Zoe to his advantage to not only stop Berlin from going after him but to actually have Berlin work with him... Then top that ll off with Fitch being the man who sent Berlin after Red and I think the Berlin arc was very successful overall!
That is true, but there are other facets that we have not had the ability to explore yet. Such as the Fulcrum and whatever is in Fitch's safe and whatever is planned or will happen in 2017.
ReplyDeleteGood point...maybe it's a hybrid of some of those theories! Maybe they knew each other before all of the events we have seen?
ReplyDeleteThat is Awesome! Thank you for that photo!
ReplyDeleteI completely understand what you are saying but know we know Berlin was just a pawn in a bigger game which we are now moving on into. Sigh, I am finding more and more I should not be overthinking The Blacklist too much as there are so many missing parts but it is fun to speculate anyway.
ReplyDeleteOh absolutely!
ReplyDeleteI'm just not sure any of those possibilities are mutually exclusive with a Red vs the Alliance war coming.
It doesn't matter if Red has Fulcrum or not if The Alliance thinks he does not or is willing to take the risk. I suppose the contents of Fitch's safe could help Red keep the Alliance under control, but I'm not willing to go there yet without supporting evidence.
I do find the 2017 date interesting,..
That would be the year the next US President is sworn in,, Coincidence or not? Regardless... That looming date may not come into play as far as the Alliance deciding whether or not to go after Red...
Yeah. The show wants you to overthink things by not including answers to certain questions.
ReplyDeleteAnd we just heard in news today that Red does not really have the Fulcrum but Lizzie is connected to it. Extra thought : would you trust anything Fitch just told you about anything when you know he executed an elaborate plot to have you killed ?
ReplyDeleteHe seemed resigned -- reminiscing and smiling . After all, the daughter he had moved heaven and earth to avenge had just basically turned him over to Red to be killed , whether she knew it or not.( Maybe she did realize what would happen to him and she wanted revenge for what she said he did to her and her friends).
ReplyDeleteOnly two or three of them spoke as I recall...
ReplyDeleteThe three played by the actors Alok Tewari, Takeo Lee Wong and Ylfa Edelstein.
(The bald man, the Chinese man and the blonde woman respectively))
It's very possible that the others or even those three were just featured extras and could be replaced by newly cast actors later this season.
We??
ReplyDeleteI did not her that!
SPOILERS!!!!
Ack! XD
Ok, now that I know...
I wondered if Liz may in fact be Fulcrum... That is why she is important to Red. She is his leverage over The Alliance. Perhaps her dad was a past member (if Red is not her dad of course). I'm not sure I'm ready to go down the brainwashed route, but Liz being Fulcrum or at least tied to it makes me wonder... Many things! XD
It is just such an interesting question because we have no idea at this point! We cannot prove anything or disprove anything with the limited information we have.
ReplyDeleteAll we know is that Red did not let on he knew Tom at the hospital, but in fairness, Tom did not let on he knew Red as well! XD
We know has told Liz from the beginning to not trust Tom and Tom has told Liz not to trust Red. That suggests that they both at least knew about each other indirectly if they did not already know one another directly.
And that is about it!
Not much to go on.....
Reminds me of those Spy vs. Spy comics, Lol
ReplyDeleteI did not know about this at all, how cool?!? Can I get a link if it's no trouble?
ReplyDeleteIn as few words as possible, what do you all think the 'Fulcrum' is? A machine? A document? A weapon? A person? A group? Anything... maybe a compilation of things?
ReplyDeleteI think it absolutely was-- remember we had heard that the episode was originally titled Alan Fitch.
ReplyDeleteIt is right here on Spoiler TV under heading Latest from EW or you can see it on EW's site. Short but informative.
ReplyDeleteSorry I did not mean to spoil anything for you--- it was on this site Spoiler TV under Latest from EW so I thought everyone had already seen it. Brief but it was new info.
ReplyDeleteNo worries..
ReplyDeleteI rarely watch promos for or read spoilers for The Blacklist.
I prefer to go into episodes unspoiled. Realistically the show works on misdirection so much it is not even worth paying attention to promos and what they want you to think anyway! XD
To me it sounds like information, a document, a disc, whatever. If it is information, maybe it's about this plan Fitch and Co have for the future, 2017? But I'm open to other ideas.
ReplyDeleteI think it is information. I am really hoping the fulcrum is NOT Liz because, to be honest, Megan Boone's acting leaves a lot to be desired, and I don't want her being that central to the over-arching mythology. HAHA....
ReplyDeleteSomething that is interesting that I didn't think of earlier... Since Liz's scar resembles the scar on the box Tom had... and now Tom may have been working for Red, maybe the symbol is Red's? I still have a hard time digesting that he could have been working for Red all along, but the symbol couldn't be Berlin's unless Berlin was the cause of the fire all those years ago... (Isn't that when she got it?)
ReplyDeleteLol, thats funny. I don't want it to be a person either. A document or weapon would be a lot cooler.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much! I really appreciate that!
ReplyDeleteI think its a document also. I've seen other sites that claim it could be a person, but I don't like that idea very much.
Yes that is when Liz got the scar. In the pilot she states she was 14, but I think that was a production mistake possibly. She later says she was 4 years old which makes a lot more sense. Other possibilities is that she lied to Red in S1E1 to throw him off and see what he knew.
ReplyDeleteAbout Red & Tom working together... I think Red asked Tom to work for him AFTER Liz saved Tom after the events of the Season 1 Finale. Red and Tom were trying to kill each other also. I think after Red first suspected Liz of having some secret informant that is when Red had her tailed (possibly a few days after Liz saved Tom and put him on the boat), and then told Tom to work for him. I think before that episode they knew of each other, obviously because they mention each other, but they did not have a work relationship. Red would never let Tom be with Liz (whom he loves dearly and wants to protect at all costs) romantically while under his employ. That is just my theory.
That makes the most sense to me too. Plus, notice how Tom kept telling Liz to call Reddington, then killed someone trying to force her to. Tom and Ted probably had some sort of deal that he would let him live if he told nothing to Liz. That would explain why Red grudgingly allowed him to live in the last episode.
ReplyDeleteI mean why else would Tom try to encourage her to contact Red who, if they weren't working together at that point would kill him quickly.
*Nods*
ReplyDeleteI had that same thought...
I think Fulcrum is connected to Liz's father.. or Liz's past.
ReplyDeleteIf Red did in fact hire Tom to keep tabs on Liz one of the reasons may have been to see if she knew anything about Fulcrum or its location. Like Red knows she has some knowledge that will lead to the location of Fulcrum etc
Very good point!
ReplyDeleteVery Good points Ron! Quite a few people were disappointed with the ending of Berlin and Fitch's arc.
ReplyDeleteI think Tom was working for Red after Liz saved Tom form the bullet wounds, but that is a polarizing question. Some fans think Tom was working for Red since before the events of series take place and some think since after Liz discovers Tom is not who she thought he was. I think it was after Liz saved him because before that would mean that Red was aiding Tom in tricking Liz to be her husband and I can't see Red allowing that. Plus, why would Red continue to warn Liz about Tom since episode 1? Then Red and Tom try and kill each other in the Season One Finale. Doesn't make sense if it's before. What do you think?
I hope it's not the last we see of Tom either.
Great post Ron, have a great Winter Break!
I read an spoiler that says it is connected to Liz so maybe it's a person a code name for someone?.. If not it ahs to be some sorts of documents with peoples name that works ins ecret agencies and all that stuff
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