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Quick question
ReplyDeleteAnyone letdown by Berlin being thr big bad?
NBC aired a promo during The Voice and... there's a scene between Tom and Red. Good God, this is heating up.
ReplyDeleteBerlin? I thought Alan Fitch was the big big big bad. Apparently he's the one who told Berlin what Raymond -allegedly- did, and now that they both know, we're supposed to see how they handle it tonight.
ReplyDeletePS- During The Voice they aired a-nother- promo, Alan Fitch is inside a box (like the one on Anslo Garrick) with a bomb around his neck.
I've been saying he's probably not the big bad since last year I guess, so no.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I will admit I am a little let down by the character after all the build up.....
I agree with that. After all the build-up, you'd think Berlin is a mastermind even worse than Red, but all we've seen is an old man with a weirdly pronounced accent and the lack of one hand.
ReplyDeleteSO excited for tonight's midseason finale! Bring it on!
ReplyDeleteIT'S ****ING ON!!!!
ReplyDeleteWell, at least we now know HOW she has him...
ReplyDeleteHello Everyone! Welcome to The Blacklist Live Discussion!!
ReplyDeleteI think part of that is the issue with bait and switch and misdirection!
ReplyDeleteSometimes the bait seems more dangerous or brilliant than whatever they switch too. In this case they built up Red's opponent (his true adversary) and Berlin automatically took on that characterization... Then the character did not live up to it.
It does feel like it fits a little better if you still think of that build up all for someone else (Red's yet to be revealed true adversary) and only look at Berlin as the man who escaped from prison on a mission.
No way does she kill him...
ReplyDeleteHe's escaping. Don't know how, but he will be out.
ReplyDeleteAlan Dala as a guest star...
ReplyDeleteI don't watch promos, but I think you're right...he'll escape..
ReplyDeleteAlda?
ReplyDeleteOhhh Alon Aboutboul is guest starring as well.. He would make a great new big bad!
ReplyDeleteLol, sorry :P
ReplyDeleteLol, I love that character that works for Red...
ReplyDeleteHahaha, love the old man.
ReplyDeleteI'm only let down by the fact that he is soooo old....where are all the cute super villains!
ReplyDeleteHis interrogator/ truth finder?
ReplyDeleteHe is awesome and so against type!!
Yeah that old man is hilarious, Lol
ReplyDeleteWell, you still got Tom... for now.
ReplyDeleteIt kinda stinks this is the last Blacklist until February.. :/
ReplyDeleteARE YOU KIDDING ME!!
ReplyDeleteThis is horrible!
NBC should be shot!
So over the Tom storyline they just need to kill him & be done with it but i fear there gonna drag it on and on
ReplyDeleteGood start but not caring fort the fact that this was so much set up for Berlin and now its like all is forgiven
ReplyDeleteI know but I watch abc live so now TBL goes to Friday
ReplyDeleteI kinda like him, it would be interesting to see what they do to him. There's still a whole lot we don't know about him.
ReplyDeleteI don't know, there's a lot about him that we don't know yet.
ReplyDeletehopefully not, and it's just a temporary truce.
ReplyDeletewe know Berlin was behind sending him into Liz's live what else is there really left to explore with him ??
ReplyDelete... Everything else?
ReplyDeleteLike what in terms of whats important to the show ??
ReplyDeleteI agree I was preparing for a war...
ReplyDeleteWell, prepared to SEE a war...
ReplyDeleteSo... the owner of the boat is the one who releases Tom... underwhelming, to be quite honest.
ReplyDeleteSeems like a prudent move by Red to not kil Berlin.
ReplyDeleteKeeping him alive to use later seems like a better choice to me. Afterall Berlin wants to kill this Decemberist as much or more than Red.
Well, The Blacklist likes to tease us...A LOT :)
ReplyDeleteI was expecting them to team up and go against the man who told Berlin Red killed his daughter.
ReplyDelete*Shrug*
Soon as Jennifer/ Zoe was named and I assumed she was Berlin's it jsut made sense to me.
Whoa...did not see that coming...
ReplyDeleteDamn you, Tom.
ReplyDeleteNow that is the Tom I missed from last year!
ReplyDeleteEve nin dire circumstances he found a way out!
Lol, that's an understatement...
ReplyDeleteThat's what they're going to do...
ReplyDeleteCall Mr Kaplan...good one Tom
ReplyDeleteLol, I laughed
ReplyDeleteThose one-liners are gold.
ReplyDeleteDid everyone see that commercial for the Prius? Or just me?
ReplyDeleteHahaha.
ReplyDeleteLol, ridiculous
ReplyDeletePARKS!!!
ReplyDeleteBerlin is on Red's plane?
ReplyDeleteCan we please go back to calling him Berlin?
ReplyDeleteAck!
ReplyDeleteThe old guy's name is Mr. Brimley!
I had to look it up in the Cyprus Agency IMDB page.
And ready they were!
ReplyDeleteHe looked familiar
ReplyDeleteAlan Fitch.
ReplyDeleteTold y'all.
Finch is back
ReplyDeleteI mean Red's interrogator...
ReplyDeleteGood one
ReplyDeletethat comment wasnt meant to respond to you, lol, sorry... I meant that old guy in the elevator looks familiar
ReplyDeleteSaw the promo photos with Finch so I expected to get blamed somehow! XD
ReplyDeleteI think Red has more allies than Fitch thinks he does? What do you all think?...
ReplyDeleteIs it me or does this episode have the qualities of a movie? It looks very well put together and well written
ReplyDeletePromos spoiled this.
ReplyDeleteFitch does not know Berlin is playing on Red's side.
ReplyDeleteI love Stephen Colbert but do Pistachios really need that kind of air time?
ReplyDeleteAlon Aboutboul.. Homeland, Low Witner Sun, Legends etc..
ReplyDeletetrue...Also I think some of Fitch's 'people' would side with Red
ReplyDeleteIs he though?
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to revenge I think Berlin is on only his own side!
His working with Red only goes so far I think.
Laughing really loud right now :D
ReplyDeleteThat would be interesting, but from what we saw last year most of the Alliance wants to kill Red and risk whatever Red has on them coming into public light...
ReplyDeleteHow much does he know about Red. Why did he tell Liz her father was alive. What did he do with Gina Zanetakos. What intel does he have on Berlin.
ReplyDeleteBesides, he could be way more than we think he is.
Looks very good. AND we are getting tons of answers! Finally!
ReplyDeleteYou're right, but I always though they show support to Fitch just because he was in the room. I'll bet a lot of them would jump ship to Red given the opportunity
ReplyDeleteWith Fitch down, will they?
ReplyDeleteRight! I love it!
ReplyDeleteAhh, true...
ReplyDeletePlus alliances change as the wind blows...
What's the expression...
Where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit?
It sounds like he is scolding a daughter...and she sounds like she is being scolded by her father......just sayin....
ReplyDeleteYAS, CONFRONT HER!
ReplyDeleteThere we go Red pretty much confirmed he has known from the beginning
ReplyDeleteHe's schooling her. Hard.
ReplyDeleteups Liz...
ReplyDeleteOh they always play up that dynamic!
ReplyDeletePart of why I think they are not blood related and the show is using more misdirection! XD
I keep going back to them being father and daughter,but...
But...
Lol...she could have said that out loud and it would have been perfect
ReplyDeleteHer face sort of said it ;)
ReplyDeleteso its ok for Red to keep information from red but its not ok for liz ?? wish Liz would stand up to him more
ReplyDeleteRessler could take Tom...especially now that Tom has been chained up for four months...COLD because Liz didn't bring him enough blankets
ReplyDeleteis it just me or has it been an underwhelming episode so far considering its going on a break for like 3 months or so
ReplyDeleteI know, after hiding him for months, she just lets him go? WTH!
ReplyDeleteGMTA.. see above. XD
ReplyDeleteRessler did act a little bit boyfriend-ly there...
ReplyDeleteTom is malnourished...definitely has Vitamin D deficiency...He goes down before Ressler even touches him...
ReplyDeleteVery it like same old stuff recycle
ReplyDeleteIT is only half over, but so far yes.
ReplyDeleteAll the answers given are things that I have been expecting for along while.
The Fitch being behind Berlin only since the promo photos came out a week or two ago though...
I need something new and surprising for it to make go "Wow!"
Same hopefully the cliffhanger can deliver
ReplyDeleteIt fits four! XD
ReplyDeleteagree
ReplyDeleteWhat's in the box? Just Fitch with a bomb, no worries.
ReplyDeleteLol
ReplyDeleteDo I sound like I'm kidding?
ReplyDeleteWhere's REd's Ukranian friend from the pilot?
ReplyDeleteHe can defuse a random bomb within 13 seconds after a cursory glance!! XD
Ha! I was thinking the same thing!
ReplyDeleteBerlin is one creepy dad...
ReplyDeleteLol
ReplyDeleteHe is showing he is human nd truly cares...
ReplyDeleteTherefore I bet he is not long for this mortal coil! XD
I'm sorry I'm only number 8 on the blacklist honey...I can do better I promise...
ReplyDeletegood point!
ReplyDeleteRed is so charming <3
ReplyDeleteHa! XD
ReplyDeleteI've often wondered... does the task force know what number the Blacklisters are?
That is an awesome question! If they knew they might just say give us 1 to 9 now...So I'm gonna guess they don't. It's probably for Red's eyes only...
ReplyDeleteLol ive oftened wonder how many people are on the blacklist
ReplyDeleteYeah..
ReplyDeletei don't recall Red ever mentioning any numbers. He has said some are more dangerous than others, but is level of danger even how he rates them? XD
I would guess it's organic...villains taken off and added all the time so there is no definitive number...
ReplyDeleteIt hurts me to see Erin being shot. Poor thing.
ReplyDeleteAt least 161 since that is the highest number we have seen.
ReplyDeleteThat was The Stewmaker.
I like the finale it's good, not great though
ReplyDelete161? I thought he was higher on the list.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else think if Fitch just turned his head a little to the left that thing would come off?
ReplyDeleteRED'S IN!!!
ReplyDeleteHmmmm The Fulcrum....
ReplyDeleteFulcrum? What is this...Chuck??
ReplyDeleteLOL!
ReplyDeleteHa! XD
ReplyDeleteI forgot about that!
This is kinda sad...
ReplyDeleteOuch! I typed that too soon...
ReplyDeleteB*TCH!!!!
ReplyDeleteHawkeye jam.... ewwww!
ReplyDeletedrinking buddies...
ReplyDeleteIS this the last we see of Berlin as well?
ReplyDeleteBeer Pong Berlin?
ReplyDeleteI thought it was poison for a second...
ReplyDeleteme too
ReplyDeleteDrunk Red? Shut up and take my money.
ReplyDeleteIf this is IT; then it was terrible, all the hype....wasted.
ReplyDeleteYeah me too....
ReplyDeleteAlthough Berlin's shot glass could be poisoned...
Unless Red has spent the last years building up an immunity to Iocane powder! XD
agreed
ReplyDeletethat was...uneventful
ReplyDeleteyeah, that's it??!!!
ReplyDeleteWow that a waste of a arc
ReplyDeleteSo cold.
ReplyDeleteso they build and build up Berlin & thats how they bring it to an end ??
ReplyDeleteCan we go back to the old Liz and Red now? I liked pre-Berlin LIzred...Redlliz...Lizzington
ReplyDeleteI'm more upset about Fitch honestly!
ReplyDeleteBerlin seemed like a hired stooge to me so I never expected huge things. I thought there had to be a man above him... or two or three etc.
Although I think this was rather lackluster for a Fall finale....
Unless Tom reveals something right now
So Tom is out there...again...even money him an dLiz get back together again...
ReplyDeletemmmm....it looks to me like Liz is just acting with Red.
ReplyDeleteDid Red hire Tom?
ReplyDeleteHmmm....
What???
ReplyDeleteWow!
ReplyDeleteso is red behind tom ?
ReplyDeleteI knew he knew all along!
ReplyDeleteI KNOW!!!
ReplyDeleteABOUT US?!?!?!?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteyup it would appear so...
ReplyDeleteThat was kinda disappointing
ReplyDeleteI am a little disappointed, but good episode and ok arc to start season two...
ReplyDeleteI wondered as soon as I saw Tom walk in to meet Red, but I never expected before honestly!
ReplyDeleteI know some people wondered if Tom worked for Red early in Season 1, but I never did.
If so they could of made it clearer as im confused more than going WOW
ReplyDeleteNumber 7 on the blacklist...Ebola
ReplyDeleteI just assumed Red KNEW about Tom , but I never expected he had Tom on the Payroll
ReplyDeletePfft.
ReplyDeleteI have a larger chance of winning the lotery - TWICE BACK-to-BACK - than I do of getting Ebola! XD
I never did either....but it does makes some sense now. Is this why Tom kept warning Liz about Red, that he's using her? Does Tom really care about Liz?
ReplyDeleteI know...its just nits how nuts everyone is getting over it...
ReplyDeleteI think deep down Tom does, yes...but I don;t think Liz cares about Tom anymore
ReplyDeletecould it of been what was in finches safe he handed him
ReplyDeleteI think he did grow to love Liz yes...
ReplyDeleteI did assume Tom worked for someone before Berlin and was triple agent... Just not Red! XD
They'll be back together again anytime soon. It's like the cycle of life.
ReplyDeleteYou are right about Fitch, he was also introduced as a big bad...AND? That's it? Really? What a waste.
ReplyDeleteI think it was payment for a job completed.
ReplyDeleteMaybe not money though.... Something they agreed to before the show started.
Maybe it was the key!
you think Tom worked for Red BEFORE Berlin? I just thought he worked for Red after Liz put him in the room...interesting
ReplyDeleteI agree...Season 4 or something like that...they will hook up...
ReplyDeleteWell, it's hard to say, they do have a lot of history, even if in her eyes it was all a lie.
ReplyDeleteI like that...maybe it was the key!...Wait a minute...they haven't mentioned that key...did they?
ReplyDeleteWEll I thought that Tom worked for the person behind Berlin honestly... That proved to be Fitch. So I was wrong.
ReplyDeleteThat said, if Red and Tom had some agreement of payment it needed to be made long ago I would think...
I have not heard or seen it since he got it from the hippie terrorist. XD
ReplyDeleteTrue...but she got hit hard with all that truth coming out...and when he made that comment last season about when he knew "he had her"...ouch
ReplyDeleteActually, I did think that he was working for Red the entire time. And that Red made him work with Berlin.
ReplyDeleteReally? Maybe I need to watch that episode again...I just thought it was for the last 4 months...Red shot him a couple times in the gut...
ReplyDeleteYes, that had got to hurt.
ReplyDeleteThank you all for participating in the Live Discussion! Please vote up above! I will see you all next episode in February! Have a great night everyone!
ReplyDeleteSo, they did press the reset button for the Superbowl...
ReplyDeleteRed does not have a clear nemesis, only the blacklisters.
Liz is mentally broken.
Tom is free and apparently gone.
The Task Force is back to S1 formula.
We don't have an arc yet, besides whatever it is Red gave Tom at the end, and obviously the shocker secret he's been working for him all along.
I must admit, it is tricky how Tom has been working for Reddington and Berlin, how Lizzie really is clueless and how Red is a mastermind. Kind of underwhelmed for all the wasted hype, but it's nice we got some answers and a whole new start on February.
It makes sense on many levels, but Red always professed he had no idea who Berlin was.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Red had history with Tom and set him up to be used by his nemesis? A good free lance contractor will be picked up and used by a criminal organization... Tom could pick and choose what jobs he did until he got in with the right one who was hunting for Red...
I don't know really, it's my first impression. And just because Red hired him, doesn't mean he couldn't shoot him, especially if he thought Tom was becoming a problem for him.
ReplyDeleteRed could still have a nemesis other than Fitch (and Berlin). If Fitch stopped going after Red at some point then a new person could have started going after Red.
ReplyDeleteI think it's still possibly to have another adversary, but a reset would certainly work now!
mmm...nice theory. You're right, Red always said he didn't know Berlin, now I'm more confused.
ReplyDeleteYeah thats a good point, but I just can;t see Red hiring Tom a long time ago to make Tom do all that stuff - work with Berlin, do all that to Liz - then come into Liz's life and tell her not to trust Tom and on top of all that not know who Berlin was....I'm not saying you are wrong ( I would never do that) but I need to watch that episode again to pay more attention...
ReplyDeleteLol, right?
ReplyDeleteOR it was all staged and part of his plan. Clever, to be quite honest.
ReplyDeletetrue...very true
ReplyDeleteI kinda feel they needed to go big & leave people wanting more considering there going on like a 3 month break & cliffhanger which seemed to indicate tom's been working for red all along meh over it
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm looking forward to reading YOUR review now, it should be interesting :D
ReplyDeleteWell, Red could have set Tom up to be a mole and not known what he would end up doing for his new boss.So Red put it all in motion, but did not orchestrate everything.
ReplyDeleteOr he did it all so Liz could fall in his arms easily as he's the one who helped her from the beginning (about Tom), if they're somewhat related.
ReplyDeleteThank you! It should be super difficult after that episode, Lol, jk
ReplyDeleteReally good point!
ReplyDeleteyes, that is true also...I can see that
ReplyDeleteWell, now we have almost 3 months to wonder when Tom started working for Red and all the implications. Thanks, NBC. Hate that the innocent dockworker was collateral damage.
ReplyDeleteA lot of options right now.
ReplyDeleteIf Fitch was the adversary Red was worried about, then the rest button has been hit!
If not we got a lot of confirmation tonight. Theories were ruled out, some were ruled in, and now we have new questions!
Welcome to the Blacklsit! XD
Let the crazy, twisted theories begin!
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